The Secret Tech You Fund But Dont Own

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➡ The text discusses the connection between zero point energy and plasma energy, and how this understanding led to the development of nuclear weapons and potentially infinite energy sources. It also highlights the role of various companies and government agencies in advancing this technology, funded by taxpayers. However, the benefits of these advancements are not directly experienced by the public. The text also suggests that some current technologies may have originated from this research, and that more advanced technologies are being developed but not yet revealed to the public.
➡ Scientists at the University of Colorado are exploring quantum energy extraction, a concept that could lead to endless batteries. They’re slowing down electrons to create energy, a process based on the ground state of the hydrogen atom. The idea is to extract more energy than is put into the process, potentially through magnetism. This could lead to advancements in fusion reactors and challenge existing industries, but it’s still a topic of debate among physicists.
➡ The text discusses the possibility of manipulating gravity and space-time, suggesting that if the government has mastered these, they may have also figured out fusion. It also mentions the search for a particle called a graviton and the idea of an extra dimension that could connect electromagnetism and gravity. The text also talks about UFO sightings as potential evidence of advanced technology, and the possibility of time travel. Lastly, it mentions lithography, a method of microchip manufacturing, as another potential way to manipulate space-time.
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And he really came on the scene because he was talking about the orbs and how he believed that that they were using the orbs to disappear airlines and that he had video evidence and he was analyz the video evidence of what actually happened. And he got millions of views. He went viral with that because he tapped into something that made sense. And since then he’s been, he probably was before but he’s just really dives into physics and advanced technology and you can tell he’s very smart. You might not agree with him if you’re a physicist or an advanced scientist, you might not agree with him.

But you can’t argue that he’s not really, really smart guy and has been thinking about these things. And we’re going to talk about if the space time really exists, that we can alter time. How would you see that? What would the symptoms be? What would you be seeing if that was true? We also talk about if the cycles of the earth, if this is like the sixth time we’ve had to reset. Who maybe has all this advanced tech? Is it us from the past? We look at that, then we talk about the economics of the situation.

Who’s paying for these? I mean, really should, I should really have a deep dive with somebody on the economics of all of this tech. And we started talking about that because I want to understand, okay, who’s paying for it? The American taxpayers. Who gets to benefit from it? Not the American taxpayers. It looks like the Department of Defense works with private contractors and the private contractors and the owners all get to benefit from it. And then maybe when they bring it commercial, whoever they choose to bring it commercially gets to benefit from it. But the American people don’t get to benefit.

I mean, it’s kind of like the Internet tech who invested in Facebook and Google and all these guys who helped build up these companies, you know, bas, if the CIA is funding that, who’s funding the CIA? Us. So we funded this and we don’t get the benefit at all. In fact, I suffer from a lot of it. They censor me so that, that isn’t, you know, I mean, if it’s our own money, I, I want to get to the point where we understand where this funding is coming from. And then the American people benefit from the investments that we make ourselves.

Right? And I, I’m a libertarian, free market type person. I don’t want the government involved in everything. But if we are paying for it, then why do just private people benefit from it and why is it all secret? So we’re going to talk about some of that. This is real, guys. I mean, he’s going to talk about the patents, he’s going to talk about the evidence of it being out there. And as he says, it’s like hidden in plain sight. It’s really obvious when you start looking. And then it’s weird that it’s so obvious, but then they spend time debunking you online when all of this stuff is out there, it’s like how this doesn’t make sense.

I mean, you got all these documents showing it’s there, you got all this proof that’s there and then you debunk it. Well, then that for the people who spent time learning that it’s out there and then you see these debunking operations then you start going what’s going on with all these debunking operations? Why are you doing that? Then that gets the people who have been researching this really start to question what’s happening. It’s the COVID up operations that are worse than the actual operations in the first place. I guess that’s always true. Right. So this is a hang on to your hats thing and then we get into more exclusively for my substack.

So if you are interested in listening to more go to my substack at Sarah Westall substack.com It’s eventually I’m moving it to Westall media.com I’m going to have my own domain in substack so you can always go to Westall Media. I’m trying to do, I’m going to do that because I’m going to try to get out from under some of this suppression because west all media will be more clean. And so we’ll see if that helps. And long term, if we can keep that, how long we can keep it clean. I don’t know if you, if they don’t like what you’re talking about, you don’t, you don’t really get much visibility.

But we’re going to try, we’re going to try to keep that clean. See if that makes a difference. And so it’ll be under westall media.com okay, do that and also subscribe whatever platform you’re on, make sure you subscribe and give it a thumbs up. You know, give it a like and share it if you can. And if you are interested more in this content, you’re not on my newsletter yet, go to sirwetzel.com, sign up for that newsletter that also gets you signed up for my substack. Okay, let’s get into this wild conversation with Ashton Forbes. Hi Ashton, welcome back to the program.

Thanks for having me Sarah. Happy to be here. Okay, we are going to dive into what you’ve been researching over the last year and that’s advanced tech. And this is the tech that most people don’t know we have, but we do have. And you’ve been uncovering a lot of it. And can you first of all tell me are you uncovering it from whistleblowers or are you uncovering it from actual documents that the government themselves produce? Everything I’ve been uncovering is open source but a lot of it is declassified government documents. Scientific papers, patents that are all publicly available, I think that’s what’s most amazing, is that this science is being hidden in plain sight.

The only way it’s being able to be hidden is that it’s out there publicly. The answer of zero point energy, this additional energy source that we can tap into, it’s just being ignored. It’s just not giving, it’s not being given proper respect, to be honest. And people will debunk it and claim that it’s pseudoscience, but it’s actually true, it’s actually real. And that’s a big problem we have in society today. Is that the issue at hand when it comes to zero point energy, free energy, UFO technology, is not that somebody needs to build something and demonstrate it.

The issue is we have this psychological block that we won’t believe what we see with our eyes or we won’t believe unless we’re told. Unless we’ve been told this is true. Well, we have been told it’s true right through this research paper. But plasma energy, which is also zero point energy, has been demonstrated and it’s actually being studied by, by advance groups all over the place. And they’re using it. And I mean, I’ve heard from so many insiders that they’re using this. And University of Colorado has had some stuff and working on things. So it’s not a secret like you’re saying, but how advanced do you think they are with this technology? Well, I think that to understand that, we have to understand the history and the origins of it.

Now, I speculate, I argue that we figured this out with nuclear weapons, the next evolution of the hydrogen bomb. To your point of plasma, I wouldn’t say that zero point energy is necessarily plasma energy, but they are absolutely connected. Plasma is simply a separation of positive and negative charge from the atom. So if we imagine our atom and we say we’re going to shoot it with a laser beam and energize it so this electron can separate and go freely. This is a plasma that we’ve just created. So when we look at this plasma, it’s like a soup.

It’s a soup of electrons, positive and negative electrons, and we have to, we have to model it like a liquid, like a hydrodynamic liquid. And I think this is what they did with nuclear weapons is they figured out, oh wow, they took it to the next level and they realized if they make these hugely energetic, focused, highly energetic, dense events, they can actually warp space time, manipulate space time itself. The fabric of our reality, as we understand it and with this, the first thing you figure out is how to do fusion. Right. Thermonuclear bomb, for people who are not aware, is a two stage process.

The outside of it is an A bomb. The same thing that we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the big mushroom cloud boom. That’s the outside of it and that’s used and focused onto the inside where you have the fusion payload and that energy is used to cause fusion to occur in the fusion payload. That’s your two stage hydrogen bomb or thermonuclear device. So if you can figure out how to make that process more efficient, the first thing you do is you figure out how to make a non fission trigger. How do I make this fusion bomb explode without the A bomb on the outside? And they figured that out in the 60s.

They haven’t told us how because it’s all classified. Okay, so but if you figured that out, you’ve solved fusion and now you have an infinite energy source. Go ahead. No, that’s true. So there’s a lot of scientists that have gone missing that have been working on this and I think that people with a lot of companies are investing a ton of money. And who’s paying for it? Us. Right, through tax dollars. Yes. Honestly, this is the craziest part about it is people should pay attention to the UFO community especially I think UAP GERB has done a lot of research on exposing the exact defense contractors and they call them, I don’t, I can’t remember the exact acronym off top of my head, but they are non for profits that get all of their money from the federal government.

Mitre Corporation I think is one, Battelle Institute is another one. Aerospace Corporation. They have these companies and they’re literally just set up so that you can’t FOIA request anything that goes through them. And they’re now just an intermediary where they will supply the engineers, the scientists, whatever they need to the Department of Energy labs and all of these other locations, Lockheed Martin, wherever they need. And now they’re figuring out this super advanced technology and the same engineer and scientists that might work at these Department of Energy labs where they’re working on magnetic mirrors and you know, different magnetically confined or inertial confined fusion research.

They’re also working on the defense contractors. And all this money at the end of the day is coming from the taxpayer. Like the, almost all of it is coming directly from the taxpayer. Sure it might be switching hands a few times, but that’s the ultimate source of it. You can make A strong argument that this money is this, all this technologies are our technology that we’ve developed. That’s probably the strongest argument for why it should be revealed. Yeah, because, okay, so the taxpayers are paying for it. They’re having independent companies, so they can not have to do the FOIA request develop it.

And then when they do bring some of this stuff to market, which is few and far between, they did, they do, they just give it to a defense contractor, I mean, and then they all benefit. I mean, do the American people ever directly benefit from what their tax money is building? Probably not. And that’s what think pisses me off the most. So you’re getting to the heart of the matter, which I think not a lot of people really discuss, which is who’s really benefiting from this. So if you really break it down, the people that probably benefit the most are the people that kind of know the technology exists, but they don’t overtly expose it.

People always say, hey, why aren’t you a trillionaire if you know about anti gravity technology? Well, because the government’s gonna take out anybody that’s speaking too loudly about it. The smart ones are the ones that are sitting behind the scenes that are profiting off this, that are just taking advantage of it. Nobody really knows their name. I mean, just to give you an example, I looked into Sierra Nevada Corporation. They’re the ones that made the wide area motion imagery in the MH370 videos. Turns out this is like a quiet, like $10 billion defense contractor, privately owned, not even public, not even on the stock market.

And you realize, like, their owners are worth, you know, set $5 billion each, basically just quietly getting all the contracts and doing this. And. And because they’re quiet, they just sit back and it’s a big gravy train. Yes. And then in terms of how the technology kind of leaks out, I would argue if this is all true, and this is like alien technology or whatever we’ve been suppressing it, then all the technology we have now today probably originates from this source. And what happens is over time, they either let it come out, or these same eng years, these people go to the different labs, work on different contracts, they see stuff that they know is now real.

They can’t directly reproduce anything they did because of NDAs and contracts they had. But there are cracks where, like, now there’s edge cases where they can build something now because they learn something more about physics that they didn’t necessarily know before. And so this is what I think gives a lot of Them a leg up. And why you’re seeing so many patents out there related to different fusion concepts, related to different gravity manipulation concepts. And they all have a common theme related to them, which is electromagnetism, because that is the unifier 100% and spin, of course.

So this is where I think you see that the technology leaks out in some cases in a controlled fashion, in other cases because somebody saw something behind the curtain and now they’re kind of revealing how it’s done. And then at the end of the day, the American taxpayers aren’t seeing any of it. Right. Unless you count, you know, your new iPhone that you sat in line for, that you paid, you know, $1,000 for, which I wouldn’t think is really a plus, honestly. Well, and that’s not necessarily the, the same level of advanced tech that you’re talking about.

You’re talking about some other. Right. I mean, the iPhone is not quite what you’re talking about, but. So where do you think this comes out? I mean, are they gonna ever bring some of this stuff out and give us an example of when they have brought it out or development. Let me benefit, let me give an example of the kind of technology I’m talking about because I think that people want to understand what is this technology. Read the Defense Intelligence Reference Documents. If you Google that, dirds Defense Intelligence Reference D I R D S you’ll get a list of 38 scientific papers that were commissioned by the government, the Defense Intelligence Agency in the late 2000s.

And it was essentially, I think that a lot of those engineers are the people that worked in these black projects on these UFOs, flying saucers, advanced physics, advanced plasma. And some of the concepts include air breathing. Magnetohydrodynamics. That’s my favorite one. Sounds super fancy. What is it? Air breathing Magnetohydrodynamics is my favorite one because it’s essentially saying we can turn the air into a plasma, into a neutral plasma. We can actually use that in a fusion reactor that we make right there. That’s half the ingredients that we need for our fusion reactor. Well, but if we, if we live in a soup of plasma, then that you can take almost any air and do that.

But anyways, keep going. Yeah. So converting the air to plasma and using that in our magnetohydrodynamics just means using electromagnetism, magnetic fields to control plasma. That’s all magneto hydrodynamics really even means. Yep. So that’s all it means. If you boil it down and you think about, you’re like, wait, so all that is, is turning the air into a plasma, using it as a fuel so that you don’t have to onboard tanks. And I think how is that different than these plasma or these energy orbs that are people are seeing? I think it’s not different. I think it is exactly that.

And you realize that’s just how we’re wording it so that it’s like normie speak in these defense without reference documents. What else have you found? So other things that they have in there are obviously extracting quantum energy, quantum energy extraction, which we think is just, that’s just straight up free energy. And the way that this is possible is from quantum mechanics. Nothing has ever really stopped. And that’s a real, real thing. Means that nothing’s ever really stopped. That means even if we think a pendulum stops, doesn’t ever really stop. Because this is where the University of Colorado came up with it, where they tested it and they looked at.

The theory of, you know, physics is that everything goes to this, the lowest state. That means that as the electrons going around it should stop. And, and if you artificially stop it, it’ll get zapped and it’ll. Are you talking about Garrett Modell, University of Colorado? I think you are. Microchip? Yeah, I mean, they’ve been working on it, but that’s what they, they. I don’t know if it’s him or not. I, you know, I’ve, I’ve had some other scientists who worked with them on my program, like years, and it was like a decade ago. And I did a bunch of shows with them on how they were using the, the zero point energy field to, you know, create energy.

They were working on endless batteries, and they were doing that by slowing down electrons. And then they realized, but by slowing that or stopping them, that it would get a zap of energy. And then they. The theory was to create an endless battery by putting it through a catheter or some kind of thing to get it to just slow down the electrons, get the Zappa energy, pull that energy out and then do it again and just keep doing it. And that’s the concept behind the endless battery that they were working on. The physics behind it, something called the ground state of the hydrogen atom, is that you take the most simple atom, which is just a hydrogen atom with one electron on it, and as you said, is if this thing is spinning around our atom, I’ll just turn sideways.

The thing is spinning around our atom really fast. It should run out of energy. Energy. The law of entropy. Yeah. Exactly. Because of the law of entropy. Unless you believe it’s a perpetual motion machine, this thing should run out of energy like almost instantaneously. And this is why I bring up with all the smartest physicists and engineers. So what’s the answer to that? Hal Puthoff wrote in the ground state of the hydrogen atom, he wrote the reason for this is because it’s absorbing energy from the zero point energy field. Yeah. And they proved. To your point.

They proved it. Yeah. And to your point, then if that’s true, that means the zero point energy is almost like a trampoline. It’s almost like a trampoline where we can like push on it and it’ll react. Right. Because now you’re saying if you squeeze that orbital, then what should happen is the zero point energy should feed it and, and go back to equilibrium. And now what we’re saying is what we think of as the ground state is not zero. That’s not the lowest state. We’re saying we can squeeze this. And when, then what’s going to happen is it’s going to bounce back and we’re going to get energy from doing that.

Yeah, that you indirectly pull it from the field by forcing it to slow down, you know, to stop. So now we have something to push back against. And now that’s the idea. No, then everybody always says, well, how much energy did it take to do that? Because now you’re. It’s just an equation of are you getting, actually getting more energy out than you’re putting into the process? Which I just say, first of all, what you need to tell people is the fact that you can pull energy out at all. That’s already a big gain. Most people will say you can’t pull energy out at all.

Now we’ve proven that we can do that. The question is, can you pull more energy out than you put in to, to do the process? You can. That would be free energy, but you can because you do it through magnetism. That slows down the electron. And then I think that you can as well. And I think that you’re very close. I think that what you’re going to find is plasma is going to be the thing that pulls it off. And where do we see the use of plasma fusion reactors? We see them in fusion reactors. And instead of doing these metal donut fusion reactors called tokamaks, there are other designs that are high beta designs that are more akin to what nature wants to do.

More akin to like. Have you ever seen a metal donut star? No. All the Stars are spherical. So why are we building metal donut fusion reactors? Shouldn’t our fusion reactors be spherical? And then I just think I start to wonder like, are we even trying to do fusion? Because don’t you think that the nature natural way to do it? And then first thing you find when you start to research it, when you asked about my sources, you find Robert Broussard, who was one of the pioneers of fusion research, just outright saying the first thing we learned about Tokamax is they’re no damn good.

And you’re like, yeah, I mean there’s all this information out there and there’s been this ongoing debate in physics that, you know, you couldn’t talk about. The physicists said that Tesla was. Einstein and Tesla didn’t agree with each other. Tesla said their plasma field exists and Einstein said it didn’t. Right, but everybody knows it does, but they can’t talk about it. In academia if you talked about it, you would lose your tenure. I mean once you got tenure you could do it, but before tenure you couldn’t talk about it. And so there’s academia is really put a gatekeep, you know, keep gatekeeping this information.

But I think it’s kind of blown wide open. And now that must mean that they probably want to bring some of this to commercial market. But what will that do to other industries? And are they going to do it? Yeah, well, first I would say, I think it’s a little bit of a misnomer to say that Einstein and Tesla didn’t agree. Actually, I think they did. I, I bet, I mean if we went back in time, hard to say obviously, but I think we went back in time. I think we’d find they probably did agree because I think the answer to this physics is actually a combination of both Tesla and Einstein mainly bringing back the ether, the zero point energy.

You bring the ether back and it was Einstein that actually predicted gravitational waves. And if you think about that, what is a gravitational wave? That means spacetime itself is expanding or shrinking. So that means that he must have thought that space time was like an elastic solid. Well, maybe some kind of medium. If you talk to physicists, they’ll tell you that they disagree. If you talk about the what. But I don’t know if I agree with what’s online in every other field. Why would this be right? But that’s the consent, that’s what you see. I don’t like consensus online, especially by AIs and crap, because you can’t believe it.

But so I mean you could be Absolutely. Right. Okay, so what else is there? And then I want to get into. I want to get more into the business economics part of it, because I know you have a business background. So I want to talk about it. You’re actually really interesting person because of your background and the fact that you’re so fascinated with. Some of the best minds are the ones who. It’s their hobby and they love doing it and they end up learning more than the people who actually do it. But keep going. Yeah. I think the other big one is fusion.

I mean, well, okay, there’s a couple other big ones, but fusion is probably the next biggest dirt. And when you, when you look at it, you realize if we can manipulate space time, if we can manipulate the ground state of the hydrogen atom, then there’s no reason we can’t manipulate the forces in general. The biggest one that prevents fusion from happening is something called the Coulomb repulsion. Basically, if I have two positively charged things, just like two magnets that are both positive magnets, they don’t, they don’t want to come together. Right. So this is why we say, okay, it takes X amount of energy to force these two things to come together.

Yeah. And we’ve been trying to do this by just saying, okay, make it really hot, and then they’re just going to randomly bounce around and then they’ll hit each other. And we’re just kind of hoping that that happens. But if you look and you dig into like the dense plasma focus, these people clearly thought there’s a more efficient way to pull it off. They’re aiming for fusion temperatures that are 100 times hotter than just the basic level of fusion that we still haven’t even commercially got publicly yet. I mean, they can do it, they can show experimentally they can pull it off.

But we don’t have anything connected to the grid or anything like that. And these guys are aiming for something a hundred times higher than that. How could they even. That seems like a pipe dream. Right. It’s almost like they knew something that everybody else didn’t know. Well, if you can manipulate gravity now, you can just make that Coulomb barrier shrink. Now that energy level that was so high, impossibly high before, comes down, way down. In fact, come down, could come down trivially low. And this is why I say if you believe the government has space time manipulation, gravity manipulation, then you must believe they figured out fusion, because fusion becomes trivial if you can control the forces like that.

Do you think they figured out space time? 100% space time manipulation is just gravity manipulation. And all this is is a matter of how do we figure out what a graviton even is. So far we’ve been looking for this graviton particle and nobody can seem to find it. But if you add an extra dimension in ether, a zero point energy of, you know, this latent field of energy all around us, now you say, okay, well maybe what’s happening is that we’ve got, imagine electricity is going up and we’ve got magnetism that’s perpendicular to it. This is how the electromagnetic waves work.

What if gravity is also just like perpendicular to this as well? What if we’re just missing another dimension where there’s another degree of freedom that we haven’t connected? And this is, I think is essentially what I may be misrepresenting a little bit, but I don’t think so. Essentially what Kaluza Klein, or at least Kaluza, tried to show in 1919 tried to show that, oh, maybe there’s a way to connect electromagnetism and gravity with an extra dimension. So to me, this is obviously what the answer is. Everybody’s been saying tests all the way back to Tesla that there must be a connection between electromagnetism and gravity.

And Kaluza came in and said, yes, extra dimension. And we just don’t perceive it all around us, but it’s there. And that is the ether, that is the zero point energy. And if somebody asks you, well, what is the zero point? You say it’s the energy of space time itself. Okay? And that then reconciles Einstein because Einstein would say, oh, well, you know, the meat, it’s an elastic medium. Okay, well the medium is where the energy is at. Many of you have heard of me talking about my weight loss journey and how I’ve lost over 25 pounds with peptides, specifically with Reddit Truetide.

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Right. People are seeing stuff in the sky that they can’t explain. Well, what are they saying? We don’t see aliens talk about what they’re seeing in the sky and how you think that is an example, a symptom that they figured out space time. Well, let’s go to the UFO files that just dropped because sure, people see stuff. And I don’t really even put a lot of stock into any home footage because I know we have stuff that’s a thousand times better. So even in the low quality videos that they’re giving to us in the UFO files, there was one that was in Eoir, which is electro optical infrared.

It’s in like that blue color. And this one clearly shows an orb of energy. And how do you know that? Because you can see the cars on the people on the street, that’s how high quality is. And you can see this orb flying above the city and it’s almost a perfect sphere. But what you notice is it’s kind of twinkling around the edges of it. And this is what you would expect because if you look at these spherical fusion high beta concepts, they’re almost always either spherical or oblong shape, but almost mostly spherical because what they’re doing is they’re trying to create like a virtual anode.

So instead of having something like a device inside, it’s just like a geometric configuration of the plasma itself. But how do you know that’s not the future sending an orb back or another dimension sending it to us? Some people think it’s another dimension sending the orb over. Yeah. When it comes to time travel, we could have a whole, whole conversation, a whole story about it. But what I would say is that’s another one of the dirds, actually. It’s also one of the chapters for, in this book right here, which is Frontiers for Propulsion Science. John Kramer, I would bet basically anything this guy was one of these black project engineers.

He’s the leading expert on what they call EPR experiments, which is essentially for our normie terms, time travel experiments. But EPR is Einstein, Podovsky rose, and that’s quantum tunneling, quantum entanglement. So what John Kramer is trying to figure out is if he says they’re setting up these little optical traps and they’re trying to figure out can we send information to the past. It’s delayed choice. Quantum eraser experiment is one of the most advanced versions of it. And it seems like from the experiment it should be possible. When you’re looking at it, it’s like the universe. One of the only ways to interpret it is the universe knows what you’re going to do before you even do it.

That’s how weird it starts to get. So the question here is really, can we go back in time? And based on, from what I’ve read of John Kramer, and I certainly can be wrong about this, it seems like nature somehow shuts it down. And how does it do that? Well, you can interpret how you want. Easiest way to interpret it is that there’s a. The future is coming backwards and the past is moving forwards and they’re meeting each other and where they hit is where causality occurs and that the future is checked. The universe is checking the future and checking the past to make sure is this possible? And that’s how it prevents you from going back in time.

If you were to try to go back in time, something’s going to happen or you go back in time and, and things that doesn’t necessarily. You’re on a different dimension, so you think you’re. You don’t because another aspect of you does or something can get really weird. I mean, you can get really creative with the ideas. Right. And you could. Yeah. Like the alternative would be a multiverse. Right. But my personal belief, if you’re asking me, which you’re not, but I’ll just give it to you anyway, my personal belief is that there’s just one universe and then we’re in it and that we can’t go back in time.

But that you could reverse aging. That would still be possible because I would make a bubble around myself and I would reverse the age of myself. That could be possible. The universe’s age wouldn’t be changing just me. And that’s honestly weird enough for me. So that just gives you some idea of what is possible. If people really, if you put me on the spot, I’d say everything you see in Star Trek, including Star Trek replicators, will be possible in the future, maybe not the super near future. But in the future, sure, I think you’re right with that.

Okay, so you, you do you think there are other symptoms that tell you that other than the orbs, that this technology or maybe space time or something else that they have besides the orbs, what else are you seeing that tells you that they have technology that we don’t know about, or that you’re finding in patents and research papers and they’re just not telling us? Hmm. I’m not sure I’d frame it that way. I’d say the other thing that people need to look into is probably lithography. Lithography is microchip manufacturing. Now you say, why, why is this connected to space time manipulation? Because I’d say there’s two ways to manipulate space time and get the effects.

Number one, super high energy, like nuclear bomb level and higher. Right, that super high energy, because that’s a large energy density. The other way to do it, scale it way down. If you scale it super small now, you don’t need a huge amount of energy anymore, right? You’re gonna get a smaller effect, but you should still be able to see the effects because of scale invariance. So now you say, okay, if we look at something like the Casimir effect, for example, this is an example of space time manipulation. This is an example of negative energy. It says we just set up two plates.

And if these plates are close enough together in the real, in reality, they’re very, very close. But you get the idea. Suddenly, together, what’s the force that does that? That is the zero point energy. Why? Because there’s zero point energy everywhere. And if you put two plates up, you’re making barriers. So now certain wavelengths can’t fit between these barriers. And that creates a pressure force that is negative energy that is tapping into zero point energy. That’s another way to do it. That, yeah, that is absolutely another way to do it. You think about it, you go, well, we’re just thinking about the problem wrong.

It’s like I just told you that all we have to do is to put two barriers up here. And now we can get a negative energy. Now if you scale that down, that force becomes really, really strong, Much, much stronger. And this is one of the ideas behind some of these free energy microchips as well. The Casimir force is weak, but if we go really, really small now, it can become more powerful. So I think that we’re going to find that the aliens or whatever super advanced beings are out there, they’ve got gravity manipulation on the large scale, but they’ve also got like atom scale manufacturing, like atomic scale manufacturing where they’re basically Star Trek replicate anything they want.

And they can Star Trek replicate any microchip to produce whatever effect they want, including a gravitational effect. Well, they just print it. Like you just decide what molecules are coming together and you just form it because you can do. Once you understand how frequency works and everything’s frequency. Okay, before we get end this because I want to do a sub stack. I want to dive into some more of these topics. Where can people find you? And you dive into all these kinds of conversations. You’re always talking about some kind of deep physics thing every single video, aren’t you? Do you also have a website or just your YouTube and videos going on? Well, I’ll shout out a website.

I’ll shout out the four orbs website. Somebody created this, just the number four orbs and it has like a lot of my research in it. Probably better than even the people that I paid to do my clips could do, which is I just think crazy. So if you’re a fan. Yeah, it’s like a super fan page. So fan page 4 or com. I didn’t make it. But you guys can find me on YouTube on my live streams, on over 500 live streams. Science, some politics, you know, a little bit of whatever I feel like, honestly. But a lot of research into stuff that people need to know about at just x Ashton on YouTube and then on Twitter on X, at Ashton Forbes on X are the most common ways to find me.

But I’m available on all the social media platforms. Okay, excellent. Stay after. We’re going to do a exclusive for our substack members. Be sure to head over to westall media.com to see an exclusive Extra segment of this show. SA.
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