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Summary
➡ The text discusses the author’s experiences working with the Asymmetric Warfare Group and other labs in the northeast, focusing on future threats and information warfare. They also worked on a concept similar to QAnon, using social media to mobilize grassroots movements. The author mentions the impressive research done by online communities, particularly on platforms like 8chan and 4chan. They also discuss the 2020 election, expressing disappointment with the media’s handling of it, and the power of the people as demonstrated by the Q movement.
➡ The text discusses the use of Q as a political tool and the subsequent media backlash against its followers. It also delves into the concept of information warfare, with the speaker expressing skepticism towards certain sources and highlighting the importance of discerning truth in a world filled with potential deception. The speaker also mentions the shift from traditional warfare to a more psychological and technological approach, emphasizing the role of AI in this new form of conflict. Lastly, the speaker expresses doubt about the authenticity of leaked emails and documents, suggesting they could be part of an intelligence operation.
➡ The text discusses the current state of society, comparing it to historical periods of great change like the Great Awakening and the fall of empires. It criticizes the actions of Congress and the divisive nature of politics, suggesting that people are becoming tired of the chaos and seeking trustworthy voices. The text also mentions the rise of technology and its role in amplifying societal issues. Lastly, it draws parallels between our current situation and Russia in 1970, hinting at a potential major societal shift.
➡ The text discusses the historical and current manipulation of public opinion, often referred to as psyops. It highlights how the Bolsheviks used simple messages to gain power and how similar tactics are used today, including in marketing and advertising. The text also discusses the predictability of human behavior and how it’s exploited, using the example of MasterCard’s ability to predict purchasing behavior. Lastly, it touches on the shift in business from long-term legacy building to short-term profit, driven by changes in investment cycles and consumer culture.
➡ The speaker believes that our society is in a precarious state because it’s run by lawyers and people with titles, rather than by experts in their fields. They argue that other countries value merit-based individuals, such as scientists and engineers, who contribute to society’s growth. The speaker also expresses concern about our increasing dependence on AI and the potential misuse of it. They mention a recent order signed by Trump, the Genesis Mission, which aims to demonstrate a national AI program within 270 days, and they worry about the speed and readiness of this implementation.
➡ The text discusses the potential misuse of technology for control rather than freedom, and the lack of wisdom and responsibility in handling such tools. It also highlights the lack of understanding among government officials about advanced technologies. The text further delves into the workings of the Department of Energy and DARPA, and the clearance levels within the US Government. Lastly, it discusses the manipulation of social issues for economic gain, specifically targeting Black Americans, the LGBTQ+ community, and women to draw cash into the banking system.
➡ The text discusses how Obama’s influence has led to various outcomes, including the potential misuse of power and chaos. It also mentions how the LGBTQ movement has unintentionally provided a cover for harmful individuals and paved the way for transhumanism, a future where robots could have rights.
Transcript
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And he was also a military contractor helping with psyop operations in foreign countries. And he pretty much now he has his own show, but he’s pretty much backed out of all this. Just like so many of us that just said what the heck is going on and recognizing the patterns. We’re living in a big psyop right now. We’re going to talk through that, hopefully empower others to see. I mean, the whole goal of this is to empower others to see what it is that we’re living through so that you can rise up, have wisdom and start taking responsibility for shaping what we’re going to need you to shape as this empire collapses.
Like you said at the end of this conversation, we’re living through a collapse of an empire and we are going through the cycles that so many empires before have been through. And all this chaos that you’re seeing, although it’s on steroids because of the technology that we have, this is a cycle that other empires have seen. And how does it relate and what can we do to step into being a more responsible adult with wisdom and recognizing what all this modern tech is doing to us and how we can manage it is extremely important. But before I get into this, I want to remind you that I have the replay with Dr.
Diane Kaser on sub stack with the peptide replay, the webinar. You can go to sarahwestel.substack.com and see it there. I also have part two that I did with Darius. Right. People love listening to him. He talks about near death experiences. You know, I don’t know what to believe with all of that, but why can’t we talk about it and think about it and put it into context? That makes sense for us. I don’t see anything wrong with that. And there shouldn’t be. Nothing should be off limits as long as we can put things into context and be responsible about it.
And so I love that conversation. Again, you go to sarahwestall.substack.com and here is my great conversation with Scott Ketterson. Now it’s long, so I’m going to put part of this on Substack as well part two. So look for that. I’ll have the link for that below as well. It usually takes about, you know, a day or two before I get the link, before the link is active on Substack because it’s part two and we need to be able to get it up and going for people. But again, look for it Sarah Westall that substack.com okay, here’s my great conversation with Scott Ketters.
Hi Scott, welcome to the program. Hey Sarah, how are you? Thanks for having me on. Well, I really enjoyed being on your program A few weeks ago. I was like, oh God, this was almost a, it was a refreshing conversation. And I said to Stacy, who does a lot of my schedule, does my schedule, I really got to get them on because he’s perfect for this time of what we’re dealing with. So thank you so much. You know, with your background in information warfare and seeing in your systems background and everything you’re seeing, it is so refreshing.
Well, thanks. I mean it was a wonderful conversation we had on the show and it was one of those really nice shows where we just had a Conversation, like we were saying. And it’s. There’s so much to cover. And that only happens when you have people that are kind of common and commonly seeing the source of the program. You’re not. We’re not having to fight, prove anything, or speak an agenda. It’s just like it’s unfolding right now at such an amazingly fast pace. And it’s. It’s pretty stunning, to be honest with you. It’s even in my best estimates.
I’m. Every time I turn around, I’m. I’m stunned at how fast this integration is happening because it’s all been done somewhere else and it’s been done in secret and it’s been done in. And literally, I mean, I just. I mean, this is no tin hat stuff. It’s been done in underground labs and underground facilities, and it’s been done in places that are off book, that nobody knows where they are. And all of a sudden it’s like, oh, look at this. And, you know, everything has a consequence, everything has a price that, you know, when it’s like when the Palantir stuff all came out and they’re trying to shift all this blame to Palantir, and I’m.
Wait a minute, there’s been 90 to 100 billion. I don’t even know if that’s the right number. Right? I mean, let’s be open here. We don’t even really know, but we know that they’ve been working on this stuff for decades. We’ve had whistleblowers come out. We’ve all. So suddenly everything is Palantir. That was my first clue. That something is not my first clue. I shouldn’t say first clue. It’s not my first clue, but it was one of those big hammers on the head that something is just that there’s this huge operation now, this Epstein stuff coming out and the emails coming out.
What do you think? I mean, all of this started as legit, I believe. You know, obviously they. There are blackmail operations and by no means is that the. Was that the only ones won or did it stop because of Epstein being stopped? What do you think about that whole thing? Well, I think first of all, it’s. There’s legitimate truth to what Epstein is. I think the. The truth of Epstein is really that he’s like an iteration of the next generation. Whitney Webb takes this position and I agree with her, and it’s. He’s just the next evolution, or was, I should say it this way, was the next evolution.
And what has been a hundreds of years of blackmail and leverage. And you yourself wrote that, you know, basically your classes, all about leverage and blackmail. That’s what they deal in. That’s what, that’s what their currency is. So, I mean, I’m in full agreement, right? Yeah, well, I, I quoted blackmail as a currency of the powerful right back before, you know, Whitney Webb wrote her book. We. I had that thing out there with Rothstein related, which I didn’t even know what Q was. It was in the Q Greater Awakening book, which they approached me, asked me to put my interview and then I wrote a forward to it and I, you know, prepped up the whole Blackmail is the currency, the powerful kind of thing.
That thing sold 2 million copies, got everywhere. I had no idea. It was kind of the launch of the Q movement. And as you know, that blackmail and human trafficking and all that was pretty much one of the. The core of what Q was trying to get out, along with a lot of other things. But that was really the. I had no idea. I was getting swept up into that. And it started out, I think, legit, and then it turned into one big sigh out. Yeah, it was Q. I would argue the movement itself was legit from the beginning.
And, and part of the reason I say that at this, at that, prior to Q, I’ve been. I. I’ve spent three and a half years in Afghanistan, and then I was working in some of the. In a couple different unit places in the government sill area as a contractor. I was working at Fort Meade with a group called Asymmetric Warfare Group. And that was originally a special missions unit and then later was transferred over to tradoc. So it was kind of a. Just kind of came a training command center. But our mission was global. We were all over the place, and we were looking at future and emerging threats.
That was our big thing. And that was kind of in addition to my information warfare thing. That’s a lot of what I did. And then I moved on to a couple of the labs up in the northeast. And that’s kind of where a lot of the main beltway for the beltway and up through. Up to Maryland is where you have a lot of the big labs. It’s where you have the, like the human testing lab up there and you have the future soldier project up there, and you’ve got the advanced weapons development systems up there. And so all of those exposures and in some of the work that I had done when Q came out, it was very similar to a concept that we were toying with.
I was working with another colonel on was how to use unconventional warfare organization methods through the web, try to mobilize a grassroots movement to synthesize around themes. And then what the idea would be is you can use the social media platforms. And then as the special forces teams come in, then a lot of the ground initial contact work was done because you vetted through social media networking. So the concept was good. And Q had a lot of that character and flavor in it, in the way that that’s done. It’s kind of a. It was done kind of like a puzzle, and it was forcing people to look.
So there’s a lot of things that we can’t. Can’t just throw cue out and just say, like the media wants to do the QAnon thing, which actually is a. That’s done intentionally to discredit and diminish. Diminish it all. Because the original concept, it was. There was Q, which was your focus, and then anons. That’s right. Which were the researchers. Yeah. And if. If someone had been involved in it in the early days, which I was. The level of research that was going on in. Especially when it was 8chan at that time, which was later deplatformed, shut down, so forth.
But 8chan research was just off the chain. And it was literally some incredible research that. And 4chan was just doing some great stuff. There’s a great story on that Sheila Bluff, that whole drama around Sheila Bluff. And he was having his emotional meltdowns and his effects of MK Ultra programming, probably. But anyway, he started his rants on Trump and people were spoofing his stuff. So he moved at one point, he moved his center of gravity, if you will, send operations to some remote place. I think it was in New Mexico, as I recall, and didn’t tell anybody where it was.
But the way that the researchers located it was so sophisticated and so good. It was just like they were looking at cloud patterns and then matching that with, you know, like matching with airline flights. And then sound echoing. They’re so good. Yeah, it was so good. It was an. It was really an exciting set of research to follow and really see what people were possible, what was possible. And even I was talking. I was engaging people on Twitter at that time. They were doing some great work in optical reading of documents. And they were guiding me on, like, how to prevent yourself from getting deplatformed.
So there was things like, you know, like taking a document and then breaking it into three slices and then offsetting it so the optical readers can’t put it together. And that’s so a lot of what was happening. There was a lot of tremendous amount of sharing of knowledge from the inside of tech to the outside and the public. We saw some incredible meme development. There was a meme team that evolved out of that. Trying to think of their name. I’ve. I used to be in touch with them, but they were doing, like, real, like, systems testing.
Like, they’d launch their memes and then they’d watch. They would watch how long it would take for the. For the search engine or the AIs in there to attach to them and start to scan them. Well, there was a group of 500 data scientists and mathematicians that were going around figuring out what actually happened in the 2020 election. And they had it down to every single, single race in the country. They knew what happened. And I was talking to the person who led that. He went by a handle and he had to back out because two of his family members were killed.
And so he had. He just backed up. He was leading in at the time. And I was so disappointed because all the people that supposedly was researching the 2020 election wouldn’t talk to these people. And I thought, how could this whole thing be legit when you won’t talk to some of the best people in the country who have the data, looking at it? And maybe because the military already had that and they already knew what was going on, but I just was so disappointed in the way that everything was unfolding in the media, and it just seemed like nobody had a clue what was going on.
Well, I think what we saw in the Q movement was the power of the people. This is the one thing I look back on is when you really look at the inspiration of what people can do. And I, I was talking to folks on the inside on information warfare that weren’t paying attention to this. And I’m like, I am watching organically evolve a capacity that the military doesn’t even the ability to research and develop responsive memes and influence operations that they don’t even have any schooling in it and they’re doing better than military. Well, but that’s because they mistake titles and actual credentials at a university or wherever they’re going with actual knowledge.
Anybody who’s worked at with really good, you know, mathematicians, analytical people, you don’t even have to have a degree. Right. If you’ve worked with those type of people, I actually feel like I was one of them back when I was thick. You know, in the thick of it, you just know that there was. There’s a difference between the really, really good ones and those with titles and degrees. Not that somebody with the title of degree couldn’t be a really good one because there was an overlap. But it didn’t matter. The degree wasn’t the deciding factor. It was.
I fully agree. It just wasn’t that. Yeah. And I don’t think our public, it allows our public to be completely manipulated because that. They don’t understand that phenomena. Yeah. And it’s, it’s a lot of this. People were learning as they go, you know, and that was. They were just jumping in, no experience. And suddenly they become a great expert in this or that. There’s someone and I, I’m trying to think of her name right now. She’s on Telegram now and I’m totally drawing a blank. But she, for years as just. She just started doing something by walking the grounds in the District of Columbia capital and just filming live stream like two, three, four times a week.
And when she first started like she had broken camera and just doing whatever she could do. And I don’t know, I checked her postings the other day. It was just crazy the number of things she’s done. But she’s always kind of bringing it back to like, well that’s odd. Like nobody’s here and they’re saying they’re here, that sort of stuff. You know. And so. But it’s the only place you get a real source of intel. And that’s what a lot of the Q movements started as was to really kind of ground in looking past the facade and looking into it somewhere along the way.
And I know of at least one point, my estimates are Q was hijacked at least two, if not three times. And I think the first major one, though it could have happened sooner. But the first major one happened, as I recall, in July of 2020. And that’s when Dunford stepped out and kind of forecasted it. And people didn’t miss is what that really represented. Because there was an like a 10 week dead zone of no cue. But that lined up perfectly to what the military calls a right seat left seat right. So Dunford’s replacement, which was Millie, came in and he shadows him for 30 days and then they flip and then Dumford shadows Millie to make sure the transition is done.
And that’s when the official handoff is. And then Dunford’s pulled out and then slowly Millie steps in. And over the next four weeks, Millie then makes his own policies that will direct the direction of the military under his leadership. And that’s that Alignment matched up and then all the posts immediately following that didn’t match a normal Q pattern. So there was definitely one hijacking there and probably many more. And over time and it’s. There’s a lot of questionable things, you know, people jumping on the tailcoats of Q. And did they know about it? I mean, I question.
I think Q was used as a political tool to amplify followings at times. But, you know, the one most obvious thing is how everybody that followed Q was just excoriated in the media and ultimately like, you know, they were. It’s like Persona non grata. And you went through that. I know. Well, because. Yeah, because of the. That book that I was in and some of the people that I interviewed, even though I didn’t cover, I just, I don’t like. I didn’t like doing anything where I didn’t know what the sources were. So I had a couple interviews like, what the heck is Q? Right.
But because I was in that book and I look like I was kind of like the mother of some of this stuff, right? I got deleted everywhere. And it’s like, this is just pure bs. But the problem with it is, and I’m still heavily, heavily censored is my original source information coming from Rothstein, who taught me a lot about information warfare. And it gave me an early view of it and then obviously my background and then everything else. I think that’s why I’m so targeted is because I’m not, I don’t, I don’t buy into any of this or at least can I say, shouldn’t say any of it.
I think we’re all are victims of some of this, right? But I did an my 5th generation warfare mind control series with. For Brydeon and I did. This was a couple years ago now. And I just felt like I had to do this because I knew this was coming and I don’t know why I do. I have these like huge pushes where I have to do something, I had to do it, and I knew that this was coming and I think we’re in the middle of it now. And the point was, is to educate people or inform people on the fact that what you’re going to see and what you’re going to experience probably isn’t true and how to identify it and what their goals are long term.
And so I’ve been doing a lot of that work. And because, because it’s not. I’m not affiliated with any psyop other than maybe somebody on the side trying to Manipulate me. I think that’s why I’m so much more targeted. I think that’s why you are so much more targeted. I think any of us that can see through this fog and try to tell people and get that, help them think through it, are the ones that are most targeted right now. I would agree with that. I mean, this is the first thing to understand is we are living in a psyop.
Not, not that the psyops are coming at us. It’s just a matter of everything. You have to just kind of look at everything as a potential psyop. And when you go to that mindset for some, it’s unsettling because it’s like what is true? And the fact is that all truth right now is subject to some sort of deception. That’s the kind of world we’re in. And we’ve. You mentioned fifth generation warfare. We’re actually in sixth generation warfare and there’s a distinct difference because fifth generation warfare, we see classic unrestricted warfare models where you have lawfare and you have economic warfare and you have education warfare.
All the institutions are used against you. When we move into the sixth generation warfare realm, AI becomes one of the principal tools where AI starts to manipulate truth and it’s used as a tool to intercede, develop content, reject people that aren’t really there, that sort of thing. So it’s, we’re, we’re really in a hybrid moment between 5th and 6th generation warfare because the AIs are also working to a certain level autonomously on some of this. Well, go ahead. And some of that technology was, is not. It’s dark, it’s black. Yeah, but it’s been there. It just hasn’t brought, been brought so much forward as it is now.
All one has to do right now is just do a search on music and YouTube and sort out what is real. And that’s an easy test for you to look at. And if, if you don’t have a reference to a band copyright statement or and say a true picture of the person who’s playing a credit to their voice, you’re probably dealing with an AI generated something or other. Well, I think you’re right. I had Armin Kirschman on who trained a lot of people in the military psyops and things. And he teaches right now at a University, his PhD in IT and he taught the defense and he was part of my fifth Generation warfare mind control series.
And he said, you know, sixth generation warfare, just like you said, really is the target. It’s bypassing all of this and going directly to you to control your mind and that all of these other. The military actually isn’t all that. And he compared it to fifth generation, but saying it’s really. Thank you. It’s really. We’re moving in the sixth generation warfare. But that the whole target is your mind and that the military, for all intents and purposes, becomes less. I mean, they’re not even. The military, as we understand it, becomes obsolete and. Yeah. And it becomes more about controlling your mind with advanced technology so that they can.
They can win a war without ever fighting a war. They just go directly to you and control your minds 10%. And that’s. We’re already seeing that. I mean, if you’re in touch with people inside. Morale is really low in the military right now, especially special operations. There’s a lot less emphasis on that sort of traditional styles of warfare. We’re migrating heavily and. Which was evidenced by, I think it was five tech execs that were sworn in as lieutenant colonels. That’s very, very significant. It’s not. I don’t care if there’s some sort of precedent. The real war that we’re fighting right now is a war of global dominance of AI and we can get into that.
But I think it’s important to kind of look at this Epstein thing, like you said, because that right now has become. It’s no longer a pursuit of truth. It’s that truth. The pursuit of truth has become its own trap. I think it’s the easiest way to say that. I think you’re right. Let me share a screenshot with you, because I just got this today, and I think it’s really. I don’t do this a lot, but I think this is absolutely important that I do this. Let me get my glasses on, because I need to see. There we go.
Can you see this? Okay, this is supposedly leaked emails from Epstein to whoever else. This is his flipping email box. I’m logged into Jeffrey Epstein. Like, how the heck is that leaked where I can log into Jeffrey Epstein and everybody can. I just don’t get it. Okay, come on, people. So now what are we seeing here? I would say that everything on this page is suspect 100 and has a point and has a intelligence operation of some sort behind it. First of all, just at. Just at scan, Stephen Bannon is there to. What the heck is the reason Steve Bannon is all over this thing in your mind? I mean, just, you know.
Well, it’s like so many of these other things. I mean, like, when I scan down and I see Trump in a headline, it’s like, okay, I’m not buying that right off the bat just because it’s such a bold headline. Why are you so secure? This is a Gmail account is what this is. It’s supposed to be anyway, unless it’s some sort of backdoor. It says jmail. So I don’t know if maybe that’s supposed to be their own email, but it’s formatted just like the Google logo up. I think this whole thing is fabricated as far as I’m concerned, until, until I.
So this is going around big time everywhere, right? Until I have information. One thing that Rothstein taught me, I’m just going to stop sharing everybody because this is crazy. One thing that Rothstein taught me early on is, Sarah, you can’t trust anything that you see when it comes to this level of warfare because I mean, there’s so much on the line when you’re talking about big institutions. You know, we were talking about the Vatican, we were talking about the presidency. We’re talking about all sorts of big players, right? You can’t trust anything because even the documents coming out of the CIA, FBI, whatever are all fabricated.
Not all, but a lot of them are fabricated to for a point. And now we’ve gone into full blown information warfare where the, it’s all chaos where they’re doing that to us left and right. So a document like this or a leaked email account which we all can have access to is in my opinion is just not something that you can trust. We’ve seen this happen a couple of times with documents bulls like this. And I’m always suspect of them by nature. The first question you have to ask always is why is it being allowed to be moved around without censorship? Yeah, exactly.
If it’s that sensitive, I mean, that’s the first thing. And I think that what we have to kind of come to is the framing of the time that we’re in is the Great Awakening. That’s kind of the categorical hitch all. And there is one. But I think that we have to be careful because there’s a spiritual great awakening and then there’s a worldly great awakening. So to kind of look at that very honestly, you have to ask yourself like, why now are all of these things, with all of these agencies dumping stuff, why did Congress all of a sudden decide it was a good idea to almost unanimously pass the Epstein resolution? And we tend to, by virtue of who we are as humanity, we tend to be a more optimistic species than we are A pessimistic species.
So we like to paint pictures that we’re not being duped. So this is just the nature of human beings. We just tend to kind of do things like, oh, there’s obviously a change in the heart of Congress. There’s no change of heart of Congress. These people are just dirt bags. And, you know, and, and most of them, so many of them are involved in some illicit activity or pedophilia or something. It’s just gross. And, and, and the ones who aren’t are just really want fame and attention. A lot of them do. Right. And so it’s like, even so I did this last night.
I think I was talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene. I like her. I think that, you know, I don’t have. Most of the nonsense is going around her about, you know, insider trading. That’s all. You can debunk that in half a second. Just go look at her filings. That’s what was put out of where she made her money. You know, she made her money from her. They were accusing her of doing insider training. It’s from Taylor Taylor Industries or Taylor Commercial, which is a construction company. She owns 51% of it. She bought it in 2002. She’s made it.
Its growth has been phenomenal, which is, you know, maybe that’s been aided by the fact she’s a congresswoman. I wouldn’t doubt it. Georgia loves her, right? So, I mean, there’s a lot of things. Maybe she threw some contracts her way, but there was no insider training. She only made 301 or $302,000 on the stock market, and that was publicly put out. And she made 174,000. I think it was on. On royalty deals. But, you know, you get one comment like Trump, he’s. She’s a traitor. So everybody echoes she’s a traitor. Nobody does anything. And it’s. But there’s.
My point I made is why did you wait? Why did you release. I don’t care that you wanted to leave Congress, the January 5th, which confirms your lifetime benefits. Good business decision. Amen to you. Everyone else does it, so you might as well do it. But why did you release it just before Thanksgiving? Why? Because you know very well that families are coming together and they’re going to sit around the table and you’re going to become a big part of so many people’s conversations. That’s why you do it. And it’s these strategic maneuvers that they make constantly because it’s about them.
And after a time, you just get exhausted. By it. I read George Washington’s Proclamation 1789, Proclamation of Thanksgiving last night. And it’s like you’re in a different world, a different reality. We’re talking about a president, right? And we are so. I mean, the reality of the colonial period, just post revolutionary war, is George Washington is telling the nation, asking the nation, take this time to pray to God, to be humbled, to be. To reflect on all the bounty you’re receiving today. You know, in this week, we’re all about like, look how much I’ve accomplished and look at what, how I’m being abused.
And it’s like constant churning of the, of the chum in the water so that people will just fight each other and there’s no effort to unify this nation. Everything is so highly divisive. And so everything becomes. It’s just a level of amplification once you get to a place like that. And it’s not hard to get people to constantly turn on each other and just start, like, doing the piranha thing and it’s like chewing off bits of flesh. Well, I’ve been doing some research because I like to look at things from a system bigger picture or what the heck is going on.
I had a lot of. You mean both. Yeah, Well, I had a lot of family issues right, when, you know, the heart Charlie Kirk thing happened. And I’ve been really focused on other. So I. Maybe the universe did that to me. God gave me a gift at that time, although it was not a gift by any stretch, but it coincided with not being sucked into any of these bigger psyops because I couldn’t be mentally and emotionally and everything else. And so now that I’m getting back, I’m looking at it from a bigger picture. And, and, and, you know, I was also prepped for it over the years, right, of saying, oh, this is a psyop.
I don’t even want to get involved. But now that I, you know, I’m taking a look at it from a bigger picture. I’ve been looking at the fall and rise of, of empire, and I’ve been looking at what the cycles are of the Soviet Union, the fall of Rome, what happened before the French Revolution and all of these cycles. And we’re seeing, even though it’s more modern because it’s AI and we don’t have 100% comparison even remotely. 100% comparison because it’s a different modern version of it, we are seeing a lot of the parallels in the chaos at the height of a corrupt system collapsing in on itself and the fact that certain groups are blamed for the problems they and that certain heightened identities are starting to form and that people are turning on each other.
And it’s at the beginning stages of everybody being exhausted with right and people wanting to find voices that they can trust and get back to reality and saying, I’m done with this because it doesn’t feel right to me and I want something more meaningful. And that has been a cycle. In every fall before every fall when the corrupt regimes are losing power, we see this intense chaotic period of like what we’re seeing right now, except it’s amplified because of the tech. Quick break from the program to share with you something amazing. This is called sloop. It’s actually Slupp 332 but it’s been shortened to Sloop.
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If you are interested in this, I will have a link below so you can try it yourself or go to sarah wessel.com under shop. Remember to use the code Sarah to save 10%. It is. If we really look at the cycles we’re in right now, we’re actually very close to where Russia was in 1970 and very, very close. They had the February Revolution which was Their original. That’s when Tsar Nicholas stepped down at that point and handed it over to the Duma. And the Duma was a provisional government that was really set up with two sides.
One was the Mensheviks, actually, three, There’s a Mensheviks, there was the Bolsheviks, and then there was the. The local societies. And I think they called them Soviets, if I’m not mist. Mistaken. And so what reason I say this is, you’re really watching this level of polarization happening now. You’re really watching this sort of pull and people are trying to find this alternative. And it was ripe for a major explosion, which is what happens in round two, which is the Red Revolution or the Red October, when the Bolsheviks then seize power. Lenin comes back in secretly by a train.
The Germans have trained him in their intelligence group. And all of that was ultimately to try to destabilize the Eastern Front operation of Russia to keep them out of World War I. I mean, that’s really where we’re at in this insidious nature. But it’s. It was a simple message of the Bolsheviks, which was bread. I wanna. I wanna say it was bread, land and something else. It was the three words that they had. But it was just a very simple message that all of this chaos and concern for society watered down to just some very simple things.
Bread and land, basically. Right? And they promised all these things by 20. By 1921, the Bolsheviks are the only legal party. And that change in 1917, by the time we get to 1993, costs Russia 100 million people. I mean, let’s get wrong, right? So the. The problem that we’re in right now is this overall, the patterning of stress. And I’m. I’m with you. I’m. I. I look at patterns. I’m a. This is really what I did most in. In all my work and continue to do is looking at patterns. So you have to. If you want to look at the Epstein stuff and if we want to go back to Q real quick, I mean, Q put the crosshairs on Epstein.
And what that did, really was to awaken us to the level of child sex trafficking and the importance of all of that in their ritual stuff that they did in the elite circle. So there was a truth there, but it became what everyone latched onto as the truth. Not just a glimpse at the broader. That’s right. That’s right. Right. And the minute that that happens and you. You grab onto it as being the truth, that’s where these people are masterful And I really have to say it. And probably another one of the biggest psyop Q ever put out is this quote.
People, these people are stupid. They’re not. They’re very brilliant. In fact, they’re. They may not. They seem not to be able to adapt well to change because their patterns are set out way in advance or their scripts are. But they’re brilliant and they understand very deeply the nature of human nature and how things will be, will execute. So, you know, just to jump over to the Charlie Kirk thing, the Charlie Kirk event, and with staying out of the weeds of who done it, you know, the whole things around Charlie Kirk himself, there’s just an interesting predictability you can come out of that in an event like that that’s that dramatic.
You can anticipate a Candace Owens. You can anticipate it and you can fuel it. So I’m not saying. But let me ask you. I don’t want to cut you off, but I’m going to for a second because I want you to add to that. Because what you’re saying, I want to add to it in your explanation. We both know that algorithmically we are censored and that it makes no sense that a Candace Owens could be propped like she is without the approval of who’s in charge of the system at this point. Add to the. To that, because I don’t buy it being anywhere near organic.
It’s part of the operation. Even if she is. Doesn’t even realize she’s part of it, which I’m not sure if I buy. It’s part of the operation. Can you add that to your context as you talk? Oh, absolutely. I think that’s a great. So what we’re really looking at here is asking some hard questions of the most obvious things, and this is how you start to pull out, like what is and what isn’t. So is the research that Candace is doing accurate? It appears to be. It appears to be pretty amazing. And she’s literally put her sword on the hill.
She’s going to die on in metaphorically speaking, not realistically speaking. And every. She’s become the largest podcast in the world. So right there is your question of who is allowing that to happen. Come on. I mean, come on, people. Yeah. What is going on? And so I’m not. I’m being careful here because I’m not in any way disparaging her, but it’s. It’s very easy to change those parameters for one person. She doesn’t have to be part of the program. She just gets Swept up in the program. And that’s why I go back to what I said originally.
Because in a psyop like Charlie Kirk, when, when these levels of, of influence operations or psyops are being done, there’s already a massive lay down of who’s in the media landscape and your behaviors, especially if you’re a regular Jiminy yourself, myself, whoever, your behaviors are known, I mean scarily known, like what you will do and what you won’t do. They know what our personality profile is, what we’re going to do and how we think. Yep. Well, I always use this, an example. In 2012 when I was working up at Fort Meade, MasterCard, this kind of came through inside channels.
MasterCard was celebrating the fact that it just completed its, its algorithmic analysis program for users of its card that they could predict to the day, to each individual. This is in 2012, what people would buy a year in advance using their card. So how does that happen? For the most part there’s going to be anomalies, but for the most part it’s so accurate, it’s scary. Yeah, correct. And how does that happen? It’s because this whole landscape, and this is why I talk about so often, is when you hear the word psyop, step away from that military framing and understand that advertising is psyop and understand that information warfare is marketing.
When you understand those principles. That’s right. Then you understand that we’re living in a psyop. It’s just everywhere. And they spend trillions of dollars every year in one form or another to get you to buy stuff you don’t need. And I used to teach that at the university, like how do you commit? And then we talk about emotional and everything else, but I try to do it with, I try to do it with integrity, but I guess that’s not all that there anymore. Keep going. Well, when everything becomes profit driven and we’ve gone to short term returns rather than long term builds, when we go to a disposable culture, which we really transitioned in in the 70s, into the disposable culture, that’s when we start exporting everything overseas because it no longer matters.
Quality doesn’t matter, price matters, all these things, then yeah, I mean, marketing becomes a ROI on what you can do every quarter, not what you’re building over time. So if we go back to legacy brands, it’s a mistake, I think, but keep going. Oh, I agree with you. Because when I taught, yeah, when I taught entrepreneurship, I always balanced it out with long term versus short term. Because you need to build that cash flow security long term. But keep going. Well, you know, I was looking the other day, for example, I was looking at. And we have a Sunday morning show called the American Brand.
And I look at just iconic things in American history of manufacturing. And, and so one of them, like last Sunday I did Radio Flyer wagons. Okay. And it’s really quite an amazing story because it starts, I guess it starts around 1909, something like that. Maybe a little later, actually. No, 1917. I’m sorry. And it just starts with an Italian kid, 19 years old, building wooden wagons. And so you start asking a lot of questions like why wagons? And you start to realize how important they were to the culture. And in 1922, 1927 or so, he’s developed the Radio Flyer, which is a metal wagon built on Ford’s manufacturing processes.
And they have built a brand that is still in existence today, which is very rare. They’ve exported their manufacturing overseas, but they’ve tried to maintain their quality. But everything they do is not trendy. It’s towards kind of still picking up the past and moving forward. They have a very different marketing approach. They’ve tried to address some of the current concerns like environmental friendly paints and et cetera, et cetera. They’ve won a bunch of awards for that. And that’s awesome. When you take that versus a quick turn and burn brand or brands that are, that are constantly changing and evolving, it’s a very different approach.
And legacy isn’t built in. Within most of our business models. We don’t think in terms of 100 year. We think in terms of what’s my ROI by quarter by year and maybe five years at most. And that’s also driven by Wall street investment cycles, which are now very short term, they’re no longer long term. And all of these things have changed in American mindset. So that marketing in itself now is really about how to exploit the maximum level of profit in the shortest amount of time. It is. It’s so sad. You know, I’ve been doing a lot of research too at trying to understand the US psyche and culture compared to other countries.
And what you’re defining is, and how we are built is actually unique in the, in the world we value and how we’re run. And, and this is, I think this is why the house of cards is falling and why we have some serious work to do to change ourselves around. We are run by lawyers, we’re run by attorneys, the whole country. Right. Think of it. Shakespeare’s quote on that. Yeah. And the, the other thing that we are run by are people with titles and university degrees and medical doctors and things like that which are highly controlled by, by boards, by credentials, not by expertise.
Right. Now, of course, there are people within those realms who are highly experts that are very good. Right. But not because of the credentials and the control structure, just because they happen to be. It’s like what we said earlier. Other countries look to the scientists, the engineers and the people who run their society and build their society. They look to the people who are merit based, who are the smartest in their society. The medical doctors who are really freaking smart, who understand that and work with them are the one. And work with that side, are the ones who are elevated.
You know, that kind of stuff. In this society, we are elevating marketing and finance and lawyers who are, have, who are disconnected from the people who are actually building society and who have the most rigorous expectations put on them. From an educational standpoint. Right. We are backwards from every other society, from every other culture really. And that’s what I’ve been doing a lot of research on. And how did we get here and what does that mean for our future? And this is where I would agree with Trump as much as you like them or not like him, in the sense of needing to put some of this big tech into the forefront.
The problem is I don’t think, I don’t know if we’re doing it and I pretty, I’m very concerned as how we’re doing. I’m going to just lay that out there. But I do agree with them in the sense that we have to get there because we are a house of cards here with a bunch of people. I’ve said this for, and I said this on your program. The whole structure of the world has changed. And the people that the biggest tech, you know, big tech is running everything, engineering is running everything. The rest of the world is way more equipped to do it than us because they’ve informed their whole society.
I don’t know about third world countries, but a lot of the first world countries and China and Russia and Europe and other places, their people are much more educated in that way. We aren’t. We have a bunch of lawyers running our society who have no clue. And so we are in this very dangerous time. We have the finance and maybe we have the military power and things for a short period of time, but we certainly don’t have the infrastructure and foundation for it. I want to add to that intellectual infrastructure and maturity, those two things. Absolutely.
Yeah. So AI is a great example. It’s an amazing tool as a tool, but AI is becoming a dependency and a crutch. And we have so many people that are driven towards motives to leverage AI for their own benefit. AI, just like the Internet, which could be a collective resource to bring people together. It was, it was, it was for a while. Keep going. But it’s when we get into AI and, and this is where, like with Trump brought in as the EO yesterday of the 24th, wherever this is going to air. But it was the 24th of November is called the Genesis Mission.
And it should put chills down your spine. It is scary the way they’re naming some of this stuff too. And what they’re doing it keep going. It’s just incredible. It’s almost like they’re doing it on purpose. I don’t think you can say they aren’t. I mean, I think they are. I mean, when you read the Genesis Mission, because it doesn’t speak certain things, but if you are aware of where these people believe and just what you said is like, where are the. What are the text execs talking about in Larry Ellis? I mean, he’s Oracle talking about.
Yeah, he’s Ellison. Yeah. So I mean, it’s. We’re talking about, you know, people will behave better when we track everything they do. You have a spiritual movement, which is also crazy bizarre, that ties in with this, which is this whole New age movement about ascension and going to the 5D world and you know, and all that. And they’re excited about this change. And their comment is, we have nothing to worry about in hiding anything. We’re all good with full transparency because we’re spiritually going to evolve. And I’m like, well, that’s a nice thing to say, but that’s not the sewer.
I’m looking at this running discussion. Well, and the spiritual evolution, if we were to put it into terms that were that people that could understand. It’s basically you’re just saying we’re going to mature and be better people and we’re going to love more. And. And to be fair, Russia going through hell like they did, they actually did from a societal stamp of their arts, the way they view things because they went through so much turmoil. There are cycles in society where you do do, but are we going to do that? Maybe we are, but they’re trying to capture it and use it for their benefit in a different way.
So keep going. Well, Russia, as we. I stated earlier, that was a cost of 100 million people. It was A. It was a suffering that we can’t comprehend. And they have also had, since Putin came to power, they’ve had almost 30 years, a little less at about 25 years anyway, of this cleaning out of what was there and kind of the intensity of their operations domestically to clean things out and the local regional wars and what that’s cost them, it’s been very real cost. So it’s. It’s not. It’s nice to say these things. You know, I say new, but I mean, I think euphemistically we like to say these things like, you know, we’re moving to a new level, but there’s a trial in all of this.
And the thing that we forget, too, which I think is very, very important, is if we go back to our documents of our country, it’s. The real question is, how were we founded? We were founded as a country that was under God, not under government. It’s very important. Yes, yes. Right. And so when we get there, it’s like, that’s why I was saying, I read The George Washington 1789 proclamation of Thanksgiving. I mean, you read it and you’re like, yeah, we’re not there now. You know, it’s like, it’s like literally saying, like, be thankful for our country, for what God has given us.
And it’s in there. I mean, that’s in there. Isn’t the 40 years in the wilderness is a metaphor for just the suffering that you need to go through to get to the point of this maturity so that we can be better. And, and so that what they’re doing is they’re capturing that and they’re almost weaponizing it for their next goal. I would fully agree. And I want. Because this is. Takes us back to Epstein in a good way. Because when you look at what’s going on with these emails. Right. Again, Epstein is a real thing. There’s been enough evidence to look at that Epstein was a real element in blackmail.
And there’s. It wasn’t just kids. It was also leverage of money. Epstein is one of many that are out there. He’s not the only player. Everybody’s focus is on Epstein, but Epstein’s already been replaced. And that’s true. What’s replacing it. It’s AI. There is not a greater tool out there. That’s true. Yeah. Right. I mean, I don’t care if you use a VPN or not. I don’t care if you signal or not. You know, they. They know what you’re. When you’re dealing with the level of stuff. Let me just jump into this because this is where I, I know we, we weren’t going to talk about this initially, but I think it’s important to bring it in which is, we talked about it before though was this whole genesis mission EO that Trump signed yesterday.
Now it is crazy when you read through is basically saying that in 270 days, starting from when it was signed yesterday, we are going to do a demonstration of concept of a national AI program. They will be able to have the modeling to address at least two critical problems as a demonstration of concept that are facing humanity and solve them. Guarantee one of those is going to be cancer. And it will also have the ability to demonstrate fully autonomous manufacturing and other AI driven manufacturing, among other things. 270 days. It does not happen unless the systems are already built.
It does not happen unless they’re ready for it. Because no, nothing in government goes that fast. I, you know, I’m one of those. As a, as a expert in technology, at least I can claim I am, I’m a, I’m on the fence with all of this because I do know, you know, technocracy doesn’t equal technology and that the technocrats want to completely control you with technology and a person who is under God wants to free you with technology. Right. And both can happen. The concern I have is they’re going to weaponize the freedom part to get to the control part.
Well, and this is, I did this in this morning’s show. I was kind of walking through it and this, the concern is not the technology. It’s like saying a gun kills people. A gun doesn’t kill people, people kill people. But it’s do we have the wisdom and do we have the responsibility enough to handle the tool like this? And my answer is no, we just don’t. Clearly we don’t. We don’t even have the people running in every part of our government have no clue. I mean I’m just going to lay it out like that. They are not mentally equipped, they’re not informed, they’re not even writing, answering the right questions.
We don’t even, I had Stuart Broffman on saying that 30 years ago we had a group in Congress that was looked at the advanced technologies and actually was a place for people in Congress and Senate to go to, to say, okay, what is going on in these areas so that they could be informed. And all the, they got rid of that and they can’t get it to come back. So they don’t even, all they have is lobbyists and that means they don’t even have. They don’t even have references that they can trust and look at to make decisions.
Right now, the gateway for lobbyists is wide open. Congress is viable on any with the right paycheck on anything. And so that should concern everybody. So when you roll this out and this has been put to doe, this whole EO Genesis mission, and if you know something about doe, you also know the DOE is. It’s another DARPA type organization. In fact, I would say it’s probably even a little crazier than DARPA in certain ways. I mean, some of their stuff they’ve been working on is like time travel, time jumping, time warping. But that’s darpa, right? Or would you say there’s another organization beyond DARPA that I.
That’s. It’s what doe, Department of Energy. Okay, yeah, that’s what I’m saying. And this is why this thing is like it’s going into Department of Energy. The difference kind of between DARPA and Department of Energy is like DARPA develops these wild concepts. And I think at times anymore, DARPA’s kind of become the darling child for the public, for everybody to look there. Whenever that happens, you know, it’s probably. Okay, that’s very clear. When that happens and everybody blames Darwin, darpa, it’s probably another organization. Okay, keep going. That’s right. People. I’ve worked with a couple of them and they’re.
They’re different. The only word I can come up with, they’re different. But DOE is kind of like this silent behemoth that’s. It’s out to the side that nobody pays attention to. Just. Didn’t they have that guy that was dressed up as a. A woman in the Biden administration? They would. Space Force. No, I thought he was Department of Energy. Maybe, maybe. Who knows? And he got caught stealing stuff in the airport. Woman’s probably. Yeah, probably. It’s like that was some price. Probably some ritual or something they were doing. Who knows? You know, they’re so crazy. I mean.
And it is interesting to note that DOE is the only one that has a Q clearance. No, this is how I say it. So explain what the Q clearances so people understand. Okay, so it’s important. It’s actually a misnomer. When I way I said it, there’s three levels of clearance in the US Government. There’s confidential, which can be done by a signature of an India. Then there’s secret, which you have to do a background check of some fashion. It’s usually Not a big one. And then there’s Top Secret. Top secret’s pretty rigorous. They’ll go to everything in your life, as they say, 10 years, but as far back as they want, they actually do real personal interviews with people to get your character profiles, which they’ve already done on all of us.
Ross Stein told me that there’s even another, bigger one that is that people don’t even get to see that have the Q clearance or that TOPS clearance where he was giving documents, that basically they give them the documents, and you could only see it in a secret location, and then you couldn’t take them with you. Well, okay, so that’s actually SAP. So let me. Let me explain. Secret is your highest level of clearance. Then you get what’s called tags or stickers. So it means, like, you’re a top secret with a compartmentalized information tag or a SAP tag or a cuke tag.
There’s different. There’s different things they can do. And so top secrets, your kind of your baseline, which you have to have. And then to get access to these key programs, other programs have additional levels of requirement beyond just the fundamental deep background check of clear of Q. I mean, I’m sorry. Of a Top secret clearance. The CIA works under a different program. It’s called scattered castles. And it’s their own process that they go through. And for a long time, you could not see. You couldn’t look across the veil to see what they were doing. They’ve integrated that system.
Now, if they integrated under Obama, where he signed an executive order, which I don’t even know if a president’s have, how much power they have, but he integrated all the information across all 16 intelligence agencies two weeks before he left office. Yeah. So this, I guess, gets into kind of some wild thinking, but I think it’s important to look at. And again, I touched on that in this morning’s show. We’ve really been engineered to look at the polarization of politics. As, you know, this side does this side and then the other side does this side. And it’s really not that way.
There’s a lot of showmanship that goes in between, but there’s a pretty steady arc that brings us to where we are. So you just made a great example of Obama. One of the things Obama did was to turn the political landscape on its head. Inverted it. We saw this high emphasis on feminism, high emphasis on lgbtq, high emphasis on black culture. That’s very beneficial in churning the pot and keeping people distracted on steroids to a degree that doesn’t even make sense. And then it, it’s creating a backlash against those people and then they become truly do become victims.
But, but it does make sense when you go back to 2007. Okay, okay, so 2007 is. We are on a near collapse of the banking system. Okay, well, hold on. I say it doesn’t make sense in the sense of you were really trying to elevate them. It makes sense when you zoom out. That’s what I want. Right, right, right. No, fair enough. Yeah, but, and so this is where I find it fascinating when you look at the finances of this, why they went after and elevated up black America, Gay America and the women. It was cash.
So follow this. The black Americans to that point were still highly suspect of banks. And most of their savings was in cash and very often literally in the mattresses or in boxes at home. So a massive ad campaign was running. All of this was about getting cash out of the society backstop this incredibly bad market that they had done with all these bad loans and garbage loans that they were passing off onto the, to the regional and local banks. So they want, they needed cash and out of the system. So black America was targeted and it was targeted with big ads like, you know, Escalades and all this other fancy stuff all to get their cash out and get them into the debt slave system.
Gay America, they got their right to marry, they got all this and nothing to do with it. Gay America’s economic economy was a separate economy. It was like a breakaway economy. It was closed loop. They had their own communities. They bought with from themselves, they traded with themselves. They stayed within their own place. You can talk to the. It’s interesting to interview people of the gay community post getting recognized how all of that vanished. They were no longer unique because their economies were mainstreamed and the cash was drawn out of them. And then what was the third one? Women.
Why? Because they were the savers of the home. They were the ones that were holding the money aside for groceries, for vacations. And the main earners, which the, A lot of the investment side of that, of the, the, you know, we lost our saw. This collapse wiped out a lot of the, the male earners. The women were targeted to draw their money out the cash. It’s all about cash. Drawing their cash out to get them into a debt economy. So we create a big social issue and all of it at the end of the day is just about cash and banking and drawing that out.
And so that’s a conditioning of America which is Obama has a very big role in that. So we look at him as so many different ways. On especially don’t you think I could see that being clearly being an agenda? But don’t you think there’s always multiple agendas with that? Oh absolutely. They’re like okay now we can really weaponize it for chaos or whatever. I mean they might, that might have been the agenda back then, but now it’s like on supercharged for other purposes because it it just so such a great chaos tool. Well within the whole LGBTQ movement besides the fact that you’ve had a great avenue for pedophiles to hide and rise into power, which is true.
But there is the legal component of this which has paved the way for transhumanism. All of the laws that we’ve accepted within that 50 letter Alphabet or whatever it’s at now, I have no idea. Lgbtq, AI blah blah blah, whatever. Right. All of those letters represent a defining change in our legal system leading us to a transhumanist objective where literally robots get rights.
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