The City of London: Infiltration Intimidation Centralized Power w/ Mike Harris

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He does interviews all over the world on different global economic situations. And he’s going to come on and talk about how the United States is under attack and from multiple different perspectives and how that ties into companies valuations and how the power structure of how companies are funded has changed and how that puts us at power, at disadvantage in this country and undermines our country. He makes the argument that we are no longer a representative republic but we are run by an oligarchy of powerful wealthy individuals and that changes our dynamic and why they are bent on trying to control us and how they’re scared that they’re going to be losing their power and why we’re seeing all this irrational behavior because there are factions that are fighting for global economic control and what that really means from a practical standpoint.

He also talks about different papers, he wrote two different papers giving a solution which I think is hopeful. I think if people could really look at some of these solutions. He can’t. He has a plan where you can reduce the military industrial complex budget from a trillion, which is probably more if you add in dark projects, but from a trillion down to 200 billion a year, freeing up $800 billion a year. That would be five year process to get to that point. And that 800 billion could be reinvested in building up our infrastructure and those people wouldn’t be out of jobs, they just wouldn’t be focused on war, they would be focused on helping humanity move forward, helping us rebuild our infrastructure, regain a competitive advantage in new products, new pharmaceuticals, because we’re dependent on China, new adventures, new space exploration, build up scientists and engineers, and really focus humanity on the future and the benefit of mankind versus this war economy.

And why are we stuck in that? And he’s going to talk about that as well. Now, like all guests, I don’t agree with everything that they say. It’s just I’ve had over 1500 interviews by now. I don’t agree with everybody on everything. But I think these conversations are important. And I think that we have done a huge disservice at shutting down these conversations, because what that does is it breeds extremes because you’re going to have the conversations anyways, but you’re going to have it in these extreme pockets versus allowing people to talk it out and letting the rational discussions occur.

But if you shut down conversation, you’re breeding extremes. And maybe that’s what they’re trying to do. We talk about how the left has gone absolutely loony and so society just rose up and said, this is crazy, there’s enough. But now they’re building up the loony, right? I mean, we got like Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate and these nut jobs and then you at Tucker Carlson joining in with these guys. I don’t know what he’s doing because he’s hurting his brand long term by making an association with them. But maybe that’s their plan because it makes no sense.

I mean, how do these people have millions of views? I was suppressed. I, you know, I’m not that extreme, but I was suppressed because I was pointing out problems in the power structures and crime and these things that challenge power. And I was suppressed. But suddenly these guys are challenging power and they get millions of views doing things that are pretty out there. I mean, you have to question it. I’m a living example of what it’s like to actually challenge power. I’ve gone through hell over the last five years. I had more followers, the 15 of us that ended up suing Google in the 9th Circuit.

And this is part of our court case, we proved it with numbers. We had more exposure than the entire mainstream media at that time, and that’s why we were attacked. So I had more views and things. And a lot of these people now that are getting millions of views, I’m still suppressed. I’m still trying to get out of that hole. But I’m telling you, I’m committed to doing more of a rational approach. These extremes are hurting everyone and maybe that’s their goal. Right? You got to look at that. We also talk about a conversation I have with a central banker out of Afghanistan and maybe what some of the goals there were in the Middle East.

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I mean, you’ve been having just great, great guests. And I am just so flattered and, you know, happy that you’re doing so well and that you thought enough to invite me back. Thank you again. Well, thank you. I think people didn’t realize some of the guests that I’ve had for years have been amazing. I think people just maybe are starting to notice. I’ve sprinkled in a couple other ones. But some of these guests that people said, I’m just so. You got such great guests. I’m like, yeah, but I’ve had them on for 10 years, maybe seven years.

So some of them, I think it’s just people starting to notice that I’ve had just amazing guests. So I thank you for saying that. And hopefully we’ll, you know, people keep coming onto my show as I got my YouTube channel back and maybe my brand will, whatever Won’t be as tarnished going into the future. They sure worked hard to take me down. Well, let me say this about that is no matter what they do, you can’t keep a good man, in this case, a good woman down. And what you have done, how you have, you worked hard, you built a brand and it is, it’s manifesting, it’s showing, it’s, you know, I’ve watched your progress over the last number of years and by golly, you have evolved into a true rising star.

So I, I gotta hand it to you. Well done. Okay, well, thanks. Maybe it’s just the, I was gonna say, I don’t know if I’ve changed that much other than maybe doing a couple marketing tweaks, but. Okay, let’s get into your, what we’re gonna talk about today. You are the financial editor of Veterans Today. Can you talk about what Veterans Today is? And then also, why are you the financial editor? I want to talk about your background a little bit. And then we’re going to get into some explosive information that people might not know about. Okay, well, first of all, a little, a little course correction here.

I’m no longer the financial editor with Veterans Today. Veterans Today was attacked by the federal government under the Biden administration where they, the FBI had compromised key figures within the, the Webmaster portion and were inserting things that could have been to say controversial. If you say, you say like you said, they could have resulted in litigation, could have resulted in criminal issues and things. It’s not legal, right? I mean, they can’t go into a news, an editor’s back end and start and paying for and coercion. What is going, what is producing posted and taking down an entity.

Isn’t that against the First Amendment and all sorts of other issues? It kind of is. But when you’ve got a vulnerable individual who’s fear based and wants to protect himself, that’s how it works. Now I’m, like I said, it’s, you know, the FBI has so tarnished their reputation from what they were once thought of and you know, the, the, you know, shenanigans that they’ve been pulling. You look at all the Trump stuff and I’m not, you know, endorsing Trump or saying he’s, he’s innocent or any. But you know, the, the means that they work through. The January 6th thing where, you know, the, what was it Comey came out and said, you know, how many undercover operators did you have? I don’t know, don’t remember.

They had almost 300 plus, you know, I mean, come on, this is not, this is how many were FBI agents versus the actual people and how much did they instigate the riots? And if they had 300 plus, they could have easily shut down any kind of commotion, but keep going. Well, no, but they were there to, to, to start the problem. And this, this was the, you know, it is my opinion, let me say it’s just only an opinion. So I can’t, you know, I’m not, there’s no liability here. But it’s my opinion that the Democrat Party in collusion with the FBI set out on January six to orchestrate the coup to take Trump down.

And you know, you look at all the, the nonsense that happens, how many people’s lives were were damaged and harmed and as a result of this, this is not the America we grew up in. This is not how our free, open democratic republic is supposed to work. But they’ve brought in techniques that they use on foreign governments to topple foreign governments and they’re using them against our own government here, which they’re supposed to be protecting. And you know, respecting the will of the people. And the people who are behind this, this, this so called deep state, they’re really doing both sedition and treason if my suspicions are true, you know.

Well, isn’t there, isn’t there? We’ve always had division in politics, right? But the difference is, is that they weren’t willing to, to undermine the people like this. They weren’t willing to go to these lengths to do illegal activity to win at politics at all costs and to destroy, I mean, destroy the fabric of the country just so they can win and they can be in power. That was never part. I mean, they did some creepy stuff, right? I mean, in the past it was pretty bad, but not like this. Well, ask yourself what’s changed, you know, if you go back to the days of J.

Edgar Hoover, and I’m not saying that he was a good guy either, he’s got, you know, a lot of dirt on him, I mean, cross dressing, tranny, all that kind of stuff. But if true, but you know, if you go back to the days of date Edgar Hoover, what do we have now that didn’t exist then? And that’s the Internet and that’s social media and that’s all these things. So ergo, the people are more well informed now. They, they’re allowed multitude of different opinions, a multitude of different viewpoints on things. So the people in power find that the, the masses, the voters out there are much harder to Control.

So they’re doing extreme measures to maintain their control and they’re failing because they’re exposed. They’re always exposed. It’s how it works. It’s what happens. And so you know, they’re, they’re, you know, they’re this whole issue with they’re driving us toward a social credit score similar to China. This whole Palantir thing scares the heck out of me. I mean they have no business. I mean, you know, the Internet has ended privacy for Americans and it did, it did multi decades ago. Now they’re just taking doing Palantir and other organizations, not just Palantir. I had Aaron Day on who found 15 different applications that were tracking our banking information.

It’s like they just aren’t afraid to be public about it anymore. In some ways, being public about Palantir is better than being in the dark with NSA and dark projects tracking everybody. Well, you know, like I said, I don’t know what I don’t know. All I do know is that the whole thing scares the heck out of me. To support Katherine Austin Fitz and her thing, use cash wherever you can because the more cash that’s in circulation, the more it’s used, the harder it is for them to control it and the more anonymity you can have over what you do and get rid of your cell phone.

I mean honest to God, we’ve become dependent upon them. They have created a dumbing down of people. And I’ll give you a good example. In the past I never had to look up a phone number because I already knew it was in my head. I didn’t have to go reference any outside source. I could dial the person, whether business, personal, whatever, just had the number. I’ve lost that ability because I rely on my phone and I see Joe Smith and I hit Joe Smith’s icon on there, it dials it for me. So I don’t use that, that resource that I have internal to my mind, it’s atrophied and so it’s doing this to more people.

The same with the map function on there. I mean used to somebody give me directions, I would find the place. Now I depend on the Google Maps function. They’ll turn left. I had Jack McCollum, he’s a neurosurgeon. He has this PhD in history. It’s going to be airing after this show. People need to watch it. It’s an amazing show and we talk about brain development. And he said back in the day that when there weren’t very many books printed like Almost none. Like might be one in circulation. The scholars had to go and read the book and they could, had to.

They could only read it once. And so they would literally memorize the entire book because they had to. And then that skill was what was valued. And so they had. And to the point where you could say what’s on page 79? And they know. So he said, when things as society change, what’s not valued changes your brain. It’s an amazing conversation and it gets to exactly what you’re talking about here. I don’t think we’re going to get away from using cell phones, but I just welcome everybody to listen to that conversation because it is so enlightening on how it actually exactly what you’re talking about here.

But it’s a real problem. Right. We’re worried about them tracking everything we’re doing. But I want to talk about, since I got you on and you’re an expert in financial and global financial systems, right. Can you talk about what your background is from a financial standpoint and then you also have a deep understanding globally, like what’s going on in the Middle east and elsewhere. Go ahead. Well, I’ll be glad to. But you know, I got into this kind of by accident and you know, like many things in life, you know, I was, in 1998, I tendered a $1.6 billion offer to buy one of Motorola Semiconductor divisions.

And during the process, it was my deal. I brought the, I recruited the management team, I secured the funding, I did all of these things. This was my deal. And at the last minute, somebody sat me down and says, well, we can’t let you be the CEO because you don’t even have an mba. So I said, well, I can fix that. So I went out and got myself an MBA in finance. And that opened a whole new area of expertise that I, or of information that I had to master. So I went out and I went through the process of getting it and I, you know, took it from there and ran.

So subsequent to that, I’ve done some other significant transactions and had to raise money. And once you’re in the private equity venture capital world, you begin to understand things a little bit differently there as to how the money really flows, how it really works. And so that’s, that’s what got me started on this. And then I had written an article for veterans today because I, I did come from the semiconductor back industry, came from that background about, remember back, oh God, it’s gonna be 2010, 2011, when the Iranians, you Know, they were, they were floating a, a stealth drone over Iran and somehow they brought it down and nobody could figure out how this was secure.

This was all this. Well, what happened under the Clinton administration is they changed the procurement rules for the Department of Defense for semiconductors. Prior to that, they had a spec out there called Mil Spec 883C1 that if you were building any semiconductor devices, whether they’re discrete devices, ICs, microprocessors, whatever, there was a process that you had to do where everyone who worked within that sector on those devices had to have a security clearance that allowed them that they were trusted enough to at least work on the devices that the military was going to use. Well, of course, that drove the cost up, drove the prices up.

And Bill Clinton, Al Gore, when they rewrote the procurement rules for the Department of Defense, eliminated that so you could buy off the shelf components. So these off the shelf components may do everything that they’re looking for them to do, but if they’re made in China, perhaps they may do extra things that weren’t forecast by the Department of Defense. And so they, they may have extra functionality in there. So the long and the short of this is that so when your fighter pilot is driving along and his F35 and he hits the fire button and the missile goes out, if someone else can control that missile from another location and may turn around and come right back at the, the guy who fired it.

So that caused, I, I wrote that paper and that caused a huge upset within the Department of Defense, within the Navy in particular, because they were, as they were upgrading their Aegis destroyers and all their fire control systems, suddenly there were requisitions to buy back the used fire control systems, hardware, software from, from vendors because they, they had been, you know, auctioned off, whatever. So they were, they were buying back their own equipment so they could make sure they were secured. So what the theory behind this was is that Chinese semiconductors that Clinton had authorized the Department of Defense to buy were now compromised because they had functionalities that could be controlled by off, off the, off the books third parties.

And so that, that’s what started, that’s what got me involved with veterans today in the first place, was that, that, that article. And so they recruited me to come in, talked about background and things and says, well, we need a finance editor. Are you willing? So I said, well, of course, I’m here to serve. Okay, so that’s how you got into it. You said something earlier that people don’t. Until I got into that the finance equity. And I figured out how the. I realized how money really flows and people don’t realize that until they get into that arena.

What specific. Just giving us example, how did you, what perspective changed that you saw inside that an outsider might not realize the. Well, first of all, there’s the, the network of it in how. How do private equity firms acquire their money? Where does their money come from? Where does their funding come from? And quite frankly, the private equity model is really a danger to the American way of life, our American culture, because it allows more and more money, resources, assets to be controlled by fewer and fewer people. And you look at management firms like BlackRock, Vanguard, State street, and you, you look at how much of the total equity of the US Stock market, both, you know, New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ is, how much they actually control.

And then you wonder, why are companies like Budweiser and Target and others doing these, you know, we’re having a tranny on to sell Bud Light. Well, that’s not their market. They would never have done that. But Bud Light would never have done. Had a transgender model up doing their ads. No, they never. Because they were put up to it in some weird way. Well, whenever you’re the CEO of a company, publicly traded company, or you’re on the board of directors, and you’re put there by the shareholders, you know, so who are the shareholders? BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street.

And so, you know, collectively, they could, you know, influence, if not control all the hiring decisions, who all the board members are, who the CEO is going to be. So when the CEO is told by his directors that may be representing BlackRock, Vanguarden and State street that you’re going to promote this CEO. Yes, sir. And they start promoting it to their own detriment to, to the harm to the shareholders themselves. I mean, look at the cracker barrel thing. I mean, they put these people in place who are going to be their obedient servants and follow their, their laws.

And, you know, they didn’t have their back, though, once the thing fails and they lose. No, no, they, they didn’t. Because billions of dollars of market cap. Yeah. They’re costing their shareholders money. And you know, the money that BlackRock, Vanguard and State street control, it’s not even their money. It belongs to the pension funds across the Nation. You know, CalPERS is one that comes. But, but the police union, the fire union, you know, the teachers union, all these people who have pension plans that are managed by fund managers like those three, it’s their money. It’s not BlackRock’s money that they’re managing, but it gives BlackRock and, you know, State Street Vanguard an extremely powerful bottleneck position to where they’re the interface between the pension funds who represent the people and the publicly traded companies that are on deck.

And so they are there, they’re the ones who control and they’re the ones who are dictating these obnoxious policies about DEI and all this other. But some of these, some of the things that they had, these people do, they know they’re good enough business people, money managers, they know what it would have done to a market like Budweiser. That’s where people are like, okay, this is too dumb to be dumb, that this was an agenda. These are, this is a top down agenda that doesn’t, that hurts the people they claim to be helping. It doesn’t help transgender people.

It’s not helping them. It’s an agenda to hurt the country. And it’s not just transgender. I mean, I don’t want to pick on them. I don’t have any. I think they’re victims in this being honest. So this is a, the fact that they’re using these large funds to hurt the country is, the message. Isn’t, is. And like I said, that’s the danger of this model. And it puts more and more resources and assets in the hands of fewer and fewer people. And that’s really our danger. So instead of having a distributed ownership of the publicly traded companies, you have a concentrated ownership of it and they produce fantastic returns.

And so well, we made the right decision. We went with the highest performing money manager. So we hired BlackRock. They do the best, they’re doing great. How can we, as the representatives from the, from the union pension plan, how can we be held accountable? Because they’re doing such a good job, you know, so we just hired the best performing manager. Are they the best performing? And why in a competitive market, why are they the best performing manager? Well, I’m not really sure why they are, but they get, you know, really good results. They, they produce good returns.

And so that’s the only thing I can measure. But, but how they, why they are, I, I don’t know, but they’re producing good returns. They’re always highly, highly ranked as far as the productivity. But like I said, the concentration of wealth and the, it’s not the possession of the wealth, wealth, it’s the control of the wealth that, that they’re doing so well at. And that, that’s what really makes them dangerous. Dangerous to the American Way of life. Well, they didn’t do so well for Budweiser stockholders. So let’s, let’s back up a bit because you, you brought that up and I’ll address that because Budweiser is a great example.

That was a, a test, that was a pilot program. Let’s see how this does. Let’s float a balloon here. Well, let’s find a well known brand and let’s see how well they do. See if they it flies, see if it doesn’t fly, see what the reaction is. Let’s measure the response. It’s, it’s the same thing if the military sends out a patrol to probe the enemy. This was a probe, this was a probe to, to test the American people. And it did a number of things. It determined, okay, the resistance is pretty high. This is what we’re going to get.

What, what other social modification social engineering programs do we have now that we know what the pushback is going to be on a worst case, you know, putting trannies on the Budweiser label. Let’s see what these other things that we want to slip in there are. Let’s see how they’re received. And it was a testing, it was a modeling. So it was almost like, would you say it was almost like they knew they were going to get a lot of pushback but they wanted to see how much support they could get. Like how much. Because I think that was almost more telling.

But go ahead. Well, it is, it’s about, you know, if you’re going to develop an accurate working model, you have to determine what’s best case, what’s worst case, what’s most likely and so that they can do their predictive programming for other social engineering programs that may be introduced so that, that’s how that works. And what do you think they’re trying to do now? I mean I think that a lot of that has backfired on them. I think they took it too far. They backfired and now, now we’re seeing. I personally, I think that some things are going too far to the other side where they’re really, they really are hurting some organizations by just bashing their people.

Actually not organs of people. I think they’re bashing some groups too much. Right. Just leave them alone. We’re a lib, I’m a more of a libertarian. So leave these people alone. You don’t need to bash the crap out of them and then try to change society to be your to 100 years ago. I mean it’s almost like the people in the closet who want society to be like it was a hundred years ago, are now feel empowered and are out there on social media saying stuff that makes your jaw drop. So it’s almost like it went too far the other direction.

So what was, was that their goal? I mean, or did they just screw up? Well, I don’t think they screwed up. I think they know what they’re doing. But you made a good point about, you know, the trannies are now the victims because they are, I mean these are obviously mentally ill people. That’s pretty apparent. And, but yet they’re trying to talk it like it low, this is a normal lifestyle. And, and they’re, they’re pushing these things that are just repellent to, you know, the majority of the American people. And you look at how small of a fraction of the population are transsexuals.

It’s minute, it’s a minute portion. But you know, they, they, they got the attention they wanted. But the, the bigger theme is, is what other social engineering efforts are going forth that we’re seeing embraced by, you know, Fortune 500 companies that, that are publicly traded, that, that they’re doing their hiring decisions, the whole ESG thing that, you know, they’re, they’re forcing all, on the boards of directors and the CEOs of all these companies that they have. That’s a big deal. Explain what this is because I don’t know if everybody understands when you hear that what that means and what the implications are of that.

Environmental, social, governance. And so you have to develop a set of policies that are compatible there. And so environmental, well, you have to do all green things. So we have to support solar energy when using coal is so much more cost effective. And so they’re, they’re, they’re pushing these agenda items in now. You know, I think solar energy is a great concept, I love it. But it doesn’t work in a cost effective manner compared to other things out there. But we don’t want to create the carbon footprint. Well, we just watched Bill Gates reverse himself on the whole global warming issue and the carbon footprint, you know, I mean, you have to realize that they’ve been leading us down a false path because carbon is not the enemy of life.

All life forms on this planet are carbon based. And so carbon is the friend of life. In fact, the more carbon dioxide in the environment, the greener things become. And so you create more trees, you create more grass, you create more woodlands. And forced in these things. But they also learned that they could create this whole story and they could get a good half of the population to follow no matter what. Whatever they do, as long as they put the resources into it, they create the science. They will get the buy in from half the people as long as they commit themselves to it.

Well, they, they do and that is they’re measuring the effectiveness of their own marketing program. And when you look at how they control academia From K through 12 through postgraduate in the college level, they control it all. The communist slow march through the institutions has really yielded fruit for them, you know, over a 50 year, 60 year period of time. It’s really done well for the lefties, for the, for the communists. And you’ve got people out there who will yell at you, they’ll pound on the desk, they’ll say no, carbon is bad, we have to eliminate that.

Everybody needs to go electric. And you know, now we’re finding out that we don’t have enough electricity to, to meet the demands that, that they’re creating. So everyone’s power bills are going up and everything is, is going. It didn’t, it’s, it just. When you’re, when you look at the science, it all falls apart. Yeah, there are some city environments where the carbon footprint is too high because they don’t have enough plants. But, but from a general world standpoint, it’s stupid, it’s plant food. But. And so anybody who is an honest scientist, who’s smart enough, I don’t know, maybe you don’t.

They’re not smart enough. But when you look into it, it’s pretty obvious. But they push themselves too far. But you get to the point though where these organizations, these environments that you have to be faithful soldier and you can’t go against, against any of these lunacy, you know, lunatic ideas, otherwise you’re shut down and you’re, you’re sidelined. And that gets to the credit score and the fear we have around the credit score because they’ll use that as a means of controlling people that might threaten their power. Even if they’re right, I mean Even if you’re 100% right and they know it, they’ll still use it against you because you threaten their power.

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But that’s, that’s how they exert influence over people. That’s how they control the debate. If we go back to academia, if you’re a postgraduate studies, you’re a professor, you’ve got a position and you want grant money, you better write something that they want because they have, they control the money, they have the wealth. You look at the other side of this, you know the we’re underfunded where we’re under organized, they’re highly organized, they’re highly funded. You know, whatever they do, they make money at, you know, our side struggles, I mean our side lives hand to mouth and these guys can, can put in, you know, plans, they can invest tens of billions of dollars to promote their agenda.

I mean, you know this George Soros guy, this guy needs to be taken out and hung. I mean he’s, he’s bad. Do you think it’ll switch, do you think? I mean, because it didn’t used to be that way. I, you know, just good values. Wasn’t this, this ostracized? I mean it’s like wow, everything’s inverted. Do you think It’ll go back to it, or do you think we’re permanently on a different track? I don’t know. I think the coin is still flipping in the air because they’re really scrambling right now to get control over the population. That’s why they’re forcing this Palantir issue.

That’s why they want a social control mechanism. That’s why they want a central bank, digital currency, so that they can cut you off financially, so you’re starving in the street, you know, two weeks later, after everything runs out, is they. They want that level of control because people are waking up. People are seeing the failure of their policies. They’re seeing the looming tendency that we’re talking about here. These things just don’t make sense. They don’t benefit the American people. They’ve undermined our republic. I mean, you know, I ran for governor of Arizona back in the 2006 election cycle.

And one of the things I would say every speech I gave, you know, everyone challenged you, why do you want to be governor? And I said, I want to find a method to do the greatest good for the most people, the most cost effectively. And so how do you do that? And that’s why I’m running, because I don’t see that happening with these other candidates on the stage with me. What we’ve got here is our government processes have been hijacked by a wealthy group of oligarchs who are interested in nothing more than increasing their own net worth and controlling the rest of the population.

And that’s what we’re dealing with, dealing with here. And the American people have to get off the sofa and start to push back. I mean, which we have. We’re seeing people push. We’re seeing it. And that’s why they’re pushing so hard. Because the more of us that wake up, the more desperately they need that control. Well, but do you think that’s why I gotta. I want to ask you quick. Do you think that’s why they’re putting people like Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate and I’m sorry, but Tucker Carlson is starting to get. Do put some weird messages out there now, too, when he’s associating himself with those two.

They’re not huge supporters of. It seems like they’re on. They’re part of this globalist, the entrenched globalist structure that are trying to make those of us who’ve been fighting this. Not me, I don’t think I can anyone compares me to Nick Fuentes or Andrew Taylor and these guys, but they’re making Donald Trump. They’re making. And maybe Donald Trump isn’t the, I don’t know what you think of him, but they’re equating that whole movement to these guys and they’re breaking it up and they’re trying to create an extreme on the other side so that because the, the left has looked like such loony bins that they’re propping up the people who look like looney bins on the other side.

Well, they’re, they’re, you know, Nick Fuentes talking about how women are inferior and they should go back into the kitchen and men are superior in every single way. And that black people, I mean, what he says about black people, I mean, it’s like what I mean. And you know, Tucker Carlson just put out an email saying that the patriarchy needs to come back. I mean, it’s like, what are we living in 100 years ago? I mean, it’s like these people are purposely trying to make these guys look nutty. Well, they’re trying to, to discredit them, you know, is one thing, but they, this whole thing here is divide and conquer.

That’s what they’re doing. Yeah. And so you, you look at, you have the lunatics on the left now they’re trying to create lunatics on the right. And so that way, you know, the countries divided, most of the country is pretty much in the middle. They are, they’re repulsed by that. By both sides. Yes, they’re pretty balanced. And you know, but, you know, there’s some things, you see, you can’t unsee. And so when you come to some realizations, you, you have to embrace them at, well, boy, I never would have thought that in a million years. But it looks like he’s right.

Now, whether that’s a left leaning or right leaning, it doesn’t matter. But they’re, they’re trying to polarize the country. So we take to the streets and fight each other. Meanwhile, they lock us down tighter than ever because of the civil unrest. That’s right. Yes. That’s what they’re doing. You have to look at what else they’re doing while they’re distracting you with all this bs. It’s the magician’s trick here. Look, there’s nothing in my hand. He shakes it. Meanwhile, he’s doing something over here with his other hand, you know, that that’s what they’re doing here. And the whole thing is, is that the American people are pretty fed up.

I mean, we’ve been on a downward spiral, you know, financially it started with Nixon taking us off the gold standard in 1970. I mean, you look at how the dollar has lost its value since then, that’s been a big deal. The other thing that happened was the assassination of JFK in broad daylight. We haven’t had a president who’s had a backbone since then. They’re all gutless cowards because they don’t want to be the next guy to get their head blown off in broad daylight. That’s the other thing. The third thing was 9, 11. You know, that was really when the toilet bowl started circulating very fast.

And since then, we’ve been on a downward spiral. It got us into two wars. We spent 8, $9 trillion in Afghanistan and Iraq. And what did we get for it? What we need in this country is we need a representative government that promotes the interests of the American peoples, not of the wealthy oligarchs who are trying to maintain the, their, their position and their control. And that’s what we’re getting where we’ve become an oligarchy. We’re no longer a democratic republic as our Constitution calls for. And so these are the problems that we are dealing with. And as I said, you know, they’re well funded.

They’ve got more money than God. They have more money than the Catholic Church. But the economic. But we on our side, we’re just regular folks who are working, you know, nine to five, you know, trying to make enough money, take our kid to the ball game and, you know, so he can play sports and stuff. We’re, we’re the ones who are. Somehow they perceive us as their enemy. We’re not their enemy. But they’re not willing to protect our best interest, which is what the role of our government is. Yeah, we aren’t their enemy. Right. I mean, the best thing is for them to realize we’re not their enemy and that they don’t need to go to war against us.

And they got to stop wanting to control. And they already have enough money, more money than God. So they have some weird. Let me, let me, let me explain the phenomena that you’re seeing here. What you’re seeing is the guilty mind complex. There are a lot of very wealthy people, and there’s an old saying that says, behind every great fortune is a great crime. There’s a lot of wealthy people out there who have done some horrendously terrible things to other people to get their money. And so they’re, they have the guilty mind. And the example I’ll give you, if you and I are.

It’s Christmas time and you and I are out Christmas shopping together and we’re walking through the store and I, I thought I put my glove in my pocket, but I dropped it on the floor. Instead, the security guard sees that and he picks it up and he runs up to me and says, excuse me, sir. And if I’m a shoplifter and I see that go, holy shit, I busted. And I bolt for the door, okay, but he’s just trying to return the glove. But if I’m an innocent person, I turn around and say, well, thank you very much.

Our whole oligarch class is afraid of getting busted for the crimes they’ve already committed against the people to acquire their wealth. That’s really a lot of what is going on here. And once you realize that we’re dealing with a bunch of paranoid wealthy people who are afraid of getting sent to prison or worse for the crimes they’ve already committed, then you have a really good insight into your. What we’re dealing with and why they view us as their enemies. Okay, that does make sense. But for the sake of humanity, we have to figure out how to get past that.

And we’re seeing a global economic shift. I want to say one thing. I was on a plane just as recently over the weekend, and I was right next to a central banker from Afghanistan. And I had a long conversation. It was kind of incredible. And he was one of the top. He’s trying to get a job here. He was taken out. He got out of the country in 2022. And he is trying to get into finance here. But he’s having a really hard time because of his background. But I mean, the whole thing was kind of surreal.

This conversation, I don’t even know what to think about it. But he was saying that what happened in Afghanistan, the central banks and he, he led the this team. He’s one of the top bankers in the central bank of Afghanistan. And that what they did before the Taliban took it over is they were forced to put all of their bonds into American bonds. This whole Taliban takeover was planned for a while. And why, why they did that was that then they could control what the Taliban did for monetary policy by controlling all the government bonds. So the United States has a control financially over Afghanistan through that system.

Meanwhile, though, the Taliban is doing all sorts of ugly things culturally, which they. We don’t care. We never cared about what they did culturally. That was always the propaganda to get us to go to war against somebody because obviously they don’t care. But regardless, when they. The weapons all were released. Remember when they left all those weapons, $85 billion worth of hardware left behind, including state of the art items that have been resold and back engineered by other U.S. yes. And sold to Mexican drug cartels for use on the border against our military who’s trying to seal the border.

So, yeah, they didn’t have a control mechanism in place to control where these arms are going, but his conclusion is they were using it to release it to certain groups to go after the Chinese for their Belt and Road Initiative and that, that’s what it was intended for. But they were just careless and it went to places like the Mexican, you know, border and probably to the Chinese, a lot of them themselves, it just went everywhere, it scattered because they didn’t, they were idiots about how they did it. But that’s what he was saying was what was in place.

And they had many conversations about it before it happened. And the whole abandonment of that, those, those military arms was not by accident, according to him, and what they had planned for it. Well, I understand. Well, you just touched on something that is key, that everyone needs to understand. There’s a big power competition going on right now between the Western banking system and what is coming up as the BRICs. That’s right, yeah. And the Belt and Road Initiative of China is key to this. It’s, it’s central and it’s key. And the reason being is the Belt and Road Initiative eliminates the British stranglehold over the sea lanes, over all the, you know, you look at, you know, the Straits of Gibraltar, you look at the Bosphorus, you look at the Straits of Malacca, you look at the Strait of Hormuz, all of these things.

You know, the British have control the seas and controlled commerce by controlling the seas for a couple hundred years. Now the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative makes that obsolete. So you have more efficient, faster, more cost effective methods of transporting materials and goods around the world with the Belt and Road. And the British, via the City of London, have controlled that for a very long time. And if, if, you know, I’m going to quote Muammar Gaddafi here, who said that if you wanted to end all wars and all terrorism globally, you can do it within, you know, two days by dropping a 50 megaton nuclear weapon on the City of London, that’ll end it all.

We’re not advocating that because I don’t want to be taken out again people who are controlling into the money behind the wars and it will end. That was a quote by Muammar Gaddafi. And look what they did to him as an end result. That’s right. It wasn’t because he was a terrorist or that’s because he was building a Africa based gold backed currency that was going to displace the US dollar as a global reserve currency. That’s why they did that. But Gaddafi had it right. The city of London is probably the greatest concentration of wealth and evil on this world.

I mean, and they’re not going to let go easily. So that’s why you’re right. So okay, so now what? When they won’t let it go easily and there is actually a legitimate force that is providing competition to the global economic structure, what, how far will they go to maintain their power? What will they see? They will hold back nothing. They will go all in, they will go all out, full thermal mean nuclear war on the whole planet if they have to. But they ain’t letting go because they, they, you know, they don’t want to be number two, they don’t want to be number 10.

They want to be number one. They want to be in control. They will do whatever it takes to maintain that control because they know what they did to maintain control. And they don’t want to be in a second position where anybody does what they did to others. To them it is the guilty mind of again at work that is a guilty mind complex. They know what they’ve done and they know if they’re not in charge someone may do it to them. And so they don’t want to be in that position. And that’s rational. It is rational.

But you know that like I said, there is a movement from a bipolar world from, to a monopolar world where the Soviet Union fell in the United States, it was a monopolar world and now it’s moving into a multipolar world. Not two but three, five, you know, other, you know, global powers as well as significant regional powers. And, and that’s what’s going. And you know that can work but everybody has to agree to play nice, everybody has to quit, agree green that this is going to be a, a rape and plunder economy. I mean you look at U.

S Foreign policy and dear God, I mean we’re. Remember when we were growing up they talked about, oh, the evil Soviet Union, they want to dominate the world, they want to do all this. Well, we’ve become the bad guys now. The United States has become to the rest of the world. Right? We really do to the rest of the world. I mean the rest of the world is scared to death of us. You know, they don’t want to be invaded, they don’t want to be this, you know, I mean Putin did some brilliant maneuvers releasing that originate missile, giving a demonstration Ukraine of what it can do.

Then the Poseidon nuclear torpedo that you create, you know, 500 meter tsunamis. The, the new missile they’ve got that could be a loitering missile for we don’t, the Skyfall is what the Western name for it is. I mean these things are brilliant. Putin is saying back off, we’re not going to fall. We’re not going to let you do this anymore. And we’re, they’re showing them the tools that the United States does not have any publicly displayed weapons that come eventually close to that. Our publicly displayed weapons are, you know, a generation, two generations behind what Putin is showing the world.

But when you say publicly displayed, we have some pretty advanced stuff that’s not publicly displayed though. Yes, agreed. Now I’m taking you back to the 1980s when Reagan was in power and he had the Strategic Defense Initiative, spent over a trillion dollars. And when George H.W. bush got in power, it all went deep black. I mean you can’t find. I used to read the trade publications. I used to keep up on this. I could tell you all about X ray lasers, you know, nuclear pumped X ray lasers to take out ICBMs as they’re leaving the, the silos.

But that’s all went completely dark. Now. I’m not saying, but it was at the beginning Google, like Google search, just when I started doing my journalism here, I started doing my show show and my business show. And then the edge changes. The 10, 12 years ago I could get to a lot of that information. I could get to a lot better information. Now it’s completely shut down. I mean you can use AI to get to some of that. You got to go to Yandex or to these foreign web browsers to get to university studies on advanced science.

Yes, you do. It’s become more difficult. They really locked down on it. And you know, nobody forget that. The day before 9, 11, what’s his name, Rumsfeld came out and said, well, the Pentagon lost track of $2.3 trillion. All right, so George H.W. bush took that all dark. We’re missing $2.3 trillion. Where do you think it went to? It went into weapons research, it went into advanced things that this secret society, the secret government that is, is coexisting alongside the public government we have is not talking about, is not letting us peons who pay the bills in on but we used to be able to talk about like 10, 12 years ago when I started.

We were openly talking about all this information. All these things would happen. They shut all of us down and built up these other people who seem like they’re talking about stuff, but they don’t talk about any of this. That’s why they’re allowed to be up there and get so much attention. Well, let me give you one small correction, and that is you’re seeing less of it now because, you know, there was always dark segments that were out of the public scrutiny that, I mean, even, you know, I’ve got a good professional background in technology stuff, but even I couldn’t get to.

I go to the trade shows, I go to the conference, I go to the IEEE meetings in order to keep up on current technologies. Yep. And, and you know, I could, you know, see more of it than the average person because I attend these conferences. Yeah. And so, but always there was dark segments that you, you couldn’t see. I, I had a friend who worked in Raytheon’s weapon systems development laboratory, and I couldn’t even go in the building. I mean, it’s, there’s two wire, you know. Yeah. There’s two 16 foot fences around it. He’s got to go out, you know, and come in.

He’s got to go through two fences, come out so I can take him to lunch. You know, I mean, there’s ultra secure. I mean, you know, top of the line. This is in Tucson, Arizona, by the way. And you know, you just, there’s stuff you just can’t see and it’s gone even darker. What they’re doing is they’re cutting off as much information as they can. They’re reducing the technology, the access to technologies even, even further because they don’t want us to know. How do we differentiate between us and what Pravda was and what the Soviet Union was? It seems as if we are, we are in a dark.

I always say we’re in the mid, you know, medieval times or something. We, we are in a dark space not much different than the Soviet Union was when they controlled all information. Well, you, you make an excellent point. I’ll tell you how that’s happened and why. You know, you look at who runs our government now, the public government, who runs our corporations. Look at the CEOs, look at the boards of directors, look at who holds cabinet positions and things. The grandsons and granddaughters of the Bolshevik Revolution and the Soviet Union during those, the Communist era are now living in America.

And They’ve infiltrated and they’re now running our government. Government and they’re running our businesses. That’s who’s running it. Look it up. Do your own homework on this, folks. I mean, pull up, you know, any corporation. Look at who their, their, their CEO is, look at who their directors are. Look at that. Then you cross reference this with publicly traded companies and you look at the control that BlackRock, Vanguard and State street have and you can see the level of control that is being imposed upon us from the top down across all of these different issues, all of these different things.

And it takes people some time to digest and comprehend what’s really going on. But this is what’s happening. On the bottom line is this. We’re controlled and we’re dealing with a criminal organization that has been around for a thousand or more years. They know what they’re doing, they know how to do it. They know how to infiltrate a country, they know how to take it over. They, they know how to, how to control the businesses. I mean, you look at the freedoms in this country that we had in the 70s compared to the freedoms we have in the country now, it’s gotten less and less and less.

And they do this because we’re law abiding. We want to obey the laws. I like the fact that there’s speed limits on the highways because I don’t want some idiot driving 120 miles an hour. Well, I’m driving with my friends and family down the road, you know, following the speed limit, 70, 75. I don’t want this guy, you know, endangering them or me or anybody else. But we being law abiding, they have encircled us with laws, so many laws that you can’t obey them all. And you have less and less freedom. You look at the border of Mexico, if this was, you know, 1900 or early, you know, the 1800, if you had Mexicans coming across the border in that number, you have people out there engaging them, taking them off and sending them back because they’re invading your country, your land, your ranch.

Now you can’t do that. We’ve delegated our personal responsibility for our own safety to law enforcement and other agencies. If you would go down there and do that today, they’d have you in jail that evening. You know, it’s just how it is. So you feel helpless now. I think that’s why they’re. So you feel helpless, you feel you’re not empowered. And I think those of us like me, I’m like, I just, just leave me Alone, let me do my thing and I would be much happier. But they, they are forcing those of us to actually point this stuff out because they’re affecting our lives.

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Oh, absolutely. See, one of the keys to happiness is the greater sense of control you have over your own life, the happier you feel as an individual. And they’re removing that from us and we have less and less and less control. I mean, if you went back to 1970, 1980, and you see someone in a grocery store filling up their, their bag with, you know, you know, pride beef and walk out the door, you go, hey, you, you know, you stop. You would intervene as an individual today, everyone’s afraid to do that because no one wants to be sued, no one wants to be arrested.

You don’t want to be the one to accost that person. They’re breaking the law. And you’re intervening as a citizen to make a citizen’s arrest, you’re going to be the one wanted to go to jail for, for, for stopping them, for, for inter. Interfering with them. And so this is the society we’ve lived in, this has been constructed around us with the purpose of taking away our ability to fight back, to resist. You know, the biggest thing that they’re afraid of with the American people is you got, you know, we got 400 million firearms in this country floating around and they’re scared to death of that.

They still want to impose their agenda on us. But they’re afraid that if we organize and get pissed off and we’re going to fight back. So they erected a, a fence of laws, a prison of laws around us so that if we do fight back, we’re the, we’re the one getting in trouble. How many people have shot an intruder in their house and they go to jail because they shot the guy? I know, that’s just. And then the family of the, the perpetrator, the, the guy who kicked in your front door to rob you and you know, rape your wife.

You shot him. Oh, but he’s only a 17 year old kid and now his family wants to sue you because you took his life prematurely. You shouldn’t have done that. Even though he was armed and broke into your house. Yeah. So it’s just this, the culture has changed a lot. What do you. And it’s, yeah, it’s, it’s away from personal freedom. But what are you seeing with, as we wrap this up, what are you seeing happening on the economy standpoint? The dollar is the inflation is out of control. Are we getting that? Are you seeing it coming under control? Do you see, you know, like others where they’re purposely going to inflate the dollar for us to get out from under our debt and move to bitcoin, move to gold back? What are you seeing in the summary here? Well, in summary what I see is that the US Economy is doomed.

This began back when the laws were written under George H.W. bush but implemented signed by Bill Clinton. And that is we let China into the wto, NAFTA and gatt. And since then we de industrialize our country. We shipped between 35 and 40 million jobs overseas to China and Mexico to take advantage of low cost labor. And they gutted the American manufacturing base. So we lost our ability to, ability to create value, to create wealth. And since then we’ve been running bigger and bigger deficits. It’s going to continue. But the dollar in Covid was a real shot in the arm.

They really dumped a lot of liquidity and that really is what caused this inflation cycle that we’re in now by using Covet and the money. Well, actually it started back even further than that. But Covid was a big thing. Right. Because was also 911 was also another big one because the economy was failing under George W. Bush. And so when 911 happened, they dumped a lot of money in the economy and they created, you know, 250, 300,000 new jobs by creating a new agency called the TSA. Well, they did that and they also dumped a lot of money in 2000 financial crash.

They did another. Go ahead, let me finish. Is that they, they pumped up their numbers. Well, look, employment is surging because we have all these new jobs. Well, they’re all government jobs that are paid for by taxpayer. They’re not creating anything. That’s right. That, that’s of value. We’re not creating a widget that we’re going to sell to someone else on the planet. You know, we’re, we’re creating these self perpetuating jobs and you know, you’ve got this TSA and so they created a whole new institution out there. But they, they hedge the, the bet for George W.

Bush. Bush made it look like he was performing well when he was, when he was one of the worst presidents ever. His performance was abysmal. Well, and that’s why, but that’s why they’re trying to bring back manufacturing. Right? They’re trying to build up AI as us being a base. So they’re trying, it seems like for once we do have somebody in administration trying to do something to rebuild the foundation of this country. Whereas I haven’t seen a press president in decades that was actually trying to rebuild the foundation of this country. Whether you like him or not, he’s talking about rebuilding manufacturing, he’s talking about building up AI.

What do you think about that? Well, I think what he’s doing by trying to re industrialize the country is absolutely the right thing. But we sort of have an opportunity here and that opportunity community is, you know, we exported 35, 40 billion jobs to China and other, you know, jurisdictions around the world. Those jobs aren’t going to come back. We don’t want to be in that business anymore. So we have to create new industries that we want to be in. You know, we have to take advantage of things like putting up orbital platforms that we can grow material science stuff up there.

You know, gallium arsenal, you know, three, five elements and change our semiconductors from silicon based to gallium arsenide based. You know, we, you know, you look at, we exported all of our pharmaceuticals to China and India. So we don’t build the old pharmaceuticals, we build new pharmaceuticals that are in a gravity free environment. We do other things. Yes, yes. We do things that there isn’t any competition for. We don’t want to get into a competition with China over who’s to going to build bicycles because that’ll be a race to the bottom. We want to create new things, new industries, new opportunities which we could be good at.

Right. We’re entrepreneurial minded. We’re excellent. The Americans are the best innovators in the world. If we’re unleashed, do you think that’s part of the control structure? Because they’re shutting down that creative entrepreneurial spirit by taking away our power and making us helpless? That shuts down the entrepreneurial spirit. Well, and again, I’m glad you brought that up because if you’re a young entrepreneur today and you come up with a new method, a new Facebook or a new, what do you call it, a new vpn, a new method of securing your communications on the Internet or something, what’s going to happen to you is you’re not going to take it to an ipo.

The IPO model is become outdated because what happens is you’ll have some bigger company like a Google or a Facebook or Meta as they call it now. Or one of the big ones will come in a Microsoft. They’ll come in and say, wow, great technology. What are you going to do with it? We’re going to have an ipo. Well, I’ll tell you what, if you do an ipo, you’ve got all this exposure out here for your public office, free. If you don’t perform, you know, things can go bad for you. Why don’t we buy your company for 10 times what you’ll make on, on the IPO and you can come in and you can run the division for a while, but you can retire in a couple years and go enjoy your life.

So they’re. They’re buying. That’s what they do. Entrepreneurs. And that’s the new model. Because they’ve got such concentrations of wealth, they could afford to pay 10 times what they’d get on IPO. But this has been like this for, for a while that they buy the entrepreneurs out. They don’t even try. They look for entrepreneurs and projects to buy because they know they can’t build it internally because they’re too bureaucratic. And anytime you get to be a bureaucratic company, you need to look outward to two entrepreneurial companies that you can buy. And so this has been the process for a while.

The problem is they buy them and shelve them and do nothing with them, or they buy them and control them. And, you know, whatever. The buying and controlling it and implementing it themselves to me is less of a problem than buying and shelving it and shutting down creativity and the advancement of. Well, that’s you. You made the point that I was going to make. You took the words right out of My mouth. Because if, if they’ve got an industry sector that’s generating good, good returns for them, why would they create their own competitor? Let’s just shelf it.

We can always dig it out later if someone else comes along, but we’ll shelf it for a year, 10 years, maybe forever. But while we milk the cash cow that’s working for us now, that’s all part of the business calculus on this. Well, that’s why free enterprise. It’s important that free markets don’t operate that way because then we flourish. And once they start to get to this oligarchy type level, which is what you’re explaining here, then that shuts down creativity, entrepreneurship, and the expansion of free markets. And we are undermining our own ability to get ourselves out of the mess that we have described here because of that phenomena.

Well, that. And they’re doing other things to our country as well. But you’re exactly correct. They are doing what the Soviet Union failed to do, and they’re doing it with capitalism as their engine instead of communicating as their engine. And they’re using capitalism to crush the capitalist system by buying entrepreneurs and shelving them. The other thing that they’re doing is they’re changing the demographics of our country. And this started back in 1965 with the Hart Celler act when they rewrote who could immigrate into the US and they changed the complexion. We went from being a 90% white country country, now we’re about a 50% white country.

And so they’re, they’re drowning out the people who have the most creative potential, the most industry, the, the hardest working, the, the most diligent people. And they’re bringing in people who are third world losers, essentially. I mean, you know, the, the, the illegal immigrants who are coming in, they’re illiterate in their own language. Well, and, and let me, let me paraphrase because, you know, I’m married to a Hispanic and brilliant and creative, and it’s like the entrepreneur spirit. But those people tend not to leave their countries. A lot of them. That’s what you’re trying to get at.

It’s not a, you’re trying to get at the point that the best and the brightest don’t, aren’t always. We’re not getting that because we, I honestly, I don’t mind getting the best and the brightest from the world. I just don’t want to get everybody’s crime welcome. But like I said, we’re getting the people who couldn’t make it anyplace else. And, and they’re coming in here and they’re signing up and they’re getting into the welfare state. That’s one thing this EBT problem did, is when you look at, you know, how many illegals are here collecting benefits that were intended for American citizens, that, that’s a huge problem.

And, and we’ve got to, like I said, we’re getting people in the country who are illiterate in their own language. You know that we’re not getting the doctors, we’re not getting the attorneys, the engineers, we’re not getting the scientists. They’re staying where, where they’re. They’re at. And the countries are happy to give us who they’re giving us. I, I had somebody else on my program and he was talking, he’s the, the CEO of the. Well, he stepped down now. He’s just a chairman, but of the Ocean Integrity Group, which takes, cleans up the world’s oceans. They clean up more plastics out of the oceans in a week than the next largest company does in a year.

And he was saying, because he talks to world leaders all over the world, and he was telling me that these world leaders. We don’t know what you’re doing because we’re happy that they’re leaving our country. We don’t want them here. And the people are, we just think you’re idiots essentially, for bringing these people in, because they’re not the people we want here anyways. That’s what they’re saying behind closed doors. Well, it’s true. And, you know, but yet they’re here and we have to deal with them. And that’s one of the, another thing that I wish Trump would pick up the pace on, but he’s getting really stiff resistance from these judges who want to give the rights, Constitutional rights of Americans to people who are in this country illegally.

You know, they, they didn’t follow the process, so they should not be entitled to the rights of an American because they didn’t follow the process. Why do we have to give them due process on the way out? When they broke into the country? We just want to throw them back out. Well, but you know what’s going on though, right? This was just the schools. I’m gonna have one of the Doge people come on. They’re using the, you know, giving immigrants $10,000, paying for other stuff. They’re using those programs to funnel money back into their program. It’s a, it’s a money laundering scheme to fund their state governments, and they’re using the immigrations to do that.

A lot of that is, I mean, Gavin Newsom is, you know, he’s going to be exposed here pretty quickly for what they’ve been doing with the Medicare, I’m sorry, Medicaid payments that are going and how they’re, they’re funding health care for illegal aliens. That’s why the Democrats held this thing up where they wanted $1.5 trillion added to the budget so that they could continue the Medicaid funding health care for illegal immigrants because they are, they’re propping up the blue states who have been not productive with their, with their policies. Let’s just say, okay, well where can people find those two reports that you did? Because that’s pretty.

And talk about what those reports, that’s how they’re industrialized. They’re using the military industrial buildup to back the, the economy. Talk a little bit about what these, these papers are. Well, the, the two papers are, one is called Strategic Downsizing and the other is Beyond Empire. They’re available on the intel drop.org so you can find them there. They’re both out there published. They’re good papers. Really what it does is we can’t, our government, because we’re having difficulty funding treasury auctions, we’re not going to be able to borrow. So that’s a problem for the US the global credit market is drying up for US Treasuries.

So what’s going to happen when the US Government has to live on the money that’s generated by tax revenue? And so I, what I did is I put together a model that allows us to live on a 200 billion annual defense budget, not a $1 trillion defense budget, which is way too much or 4 trillion. But what it does is it repositions, you know, the military spending so that we have a leaner, more effective, more cost effective military that would prevent this foreign adventurism that we’re so keen on, you know, and allow us to still defend the North American continent and protect the American people.

And I rebuild our country, right. Use well the excess money, the 800 billion a year that would be saved. It’s got a five year phase in period. It goes from 1 trillion to over five years. We get down to 200 billion, but it allows the money that is not spent on defense to be reinvested into infrastructure in this country. We need a new power grid. The one we have is worn out and very vulnerable. One EMP in the country goes dark. You know, so, you know, how do we get around this? We need to improve our Highways, our airports, anybody who’s been through LaGuardia or Chicago, Harris, these airports are dumps compared to what other countries have.

And our highway system is decaying. Our rail system needs to be greatly expanded and improved. Our schools are failing. We need more money for that. I mean, there’s just a number of. What would be the obstacles to them looking at a solution like what you put forward of them actually doing it? I know the power of the military industrial complex is so enormous, but is there a point where they start saying, you know what? We got to look at some of these solutions that these brilliant American citizens are coming up with. Do you think that would have a shot at at least part of it being implemented and looked at? Well, what I tried to do is I look at space exploration as a better investment than the war machine.

You fire a missile, it is used once, it blows up, you know, you got nothing left. If we invest in infrastructure, if we invest in space exploration, you know, there’s no reason in the world we shouldn’t be mining the asteroids. There’s no reason in the world we shouldn’t have a colony on Mars to find out what’s there that can be of benefit to mankind. We should be able to go out and that it doesn’t put the defense contractors out of business. It retools them into a more, more functional and more productive sector than, than the business of war and killing other human beings.

You know, so, you know, you, you look at that as a, as a more productive way to do things and it kind of makes sense because if you build, let’s say instead of building, you know, you know, missiles, you know, these, you know, Trump’s been talking about Tomahawks. Instead of building Tomahawk missiles or ICBMs or, you know, AMRAAMs or any other missiles that the US uses, you know, build a spacecraft that can have multi mission capabilities, you can use it multiple times, you don’t have to use it once and it’s useless. You know, you have an infrastructure there that’s going to have a residual value that pays off for it.

Makes sense. It makes sense. So do you think we’re evolving to the point where war becomes an archaic, I mean, we need to have defense, but it becomes an archaic loser kind of investment where only people who are not evolved actually look at that. Whereas exploration and science and what you’re talking about, building our infrastructure is a much more enlightened, evolved thing to do. Do you think humanity is evolving so we can get out of this death war cycle? Well I think humanity is evolving and wants to get out of this death war cycle. Humanity does.

However, we have a problem with the western banking system centered in the city of London. Who has controlled the sea lanes and all commerce on this planet as a result, who wants to resist? And like I said, they’re willing to go to all out thermonuclear war to maintain their control. We’ve evolved past them. Humanity is evolved past the controllers and they don’t know what to do. And the war, that’s why they see us as an enemy is because we have evolved past their mentality. Well they, they’re, they can’t control us and that’s why they’re so desperate to get a social credit score and get a digital central bank, digital currency in your that you have to rely on.

They want to eliminate cash because they’re afraid. They don’t know what to the economy to expect if they lose control. And they know how brutal they’ve been in controlling other people. They don’t want someone to do that to them. So that’s a fair assessment. I mean honestly that. But I can understand that because who human beings. You’re worried that if someone else gains power they’re going to be brutal too. And I can understand that fear. But the same standpoint we have to evolve. We got to get out of this, this quagmire that they have us in that’s holding us back.

But thank you Mike. I love these conversations. Thank you for joining me. And where can they find those papers again? The intel drop.org it’s they’re there just you know, you can type in my name and you can see a bunch of interviews. I do papers I’ve written. Other things are there. But the two that you’re referencing are called Strategic Downsizer is one of them and the other is called Beyond Empire and how to build a, a sovereign world that is more productive to mankind. It’s, it’s time. Like I said, I’ve done the work. It’s out there.

You can read it, it makes sense. It’s, it gives a, it will. If you read both papers it’ll take you from a sense of despair to a sense of optimism that we can do this, we can do this. I mean one of the things I also always say is that you know, we have problems, we’ve got some severe problems. We have no problems we can’t fix if we have the political will to do them. And you know, the, the hard part is how do we motivate the population to want these changes, to want to embrace these new things that are going to be better for not just you and me, but everybody on the planet now.

That’s right. That’s kind of. That’s right. As Reagan said, all ships rise with the tide. And so we’ve got to elevate all of humanity to, to a higher level so that we are able to go out and explore this, the immediate solar system and even beyond as our technology evolves. We’ve got to unleash, as you said, the entrepreneurial spirit in this country and globally and be willing to work with each other. I mean, this whole, the whole silly going on with Russia right now, they’re, they’re making noises about China. No, Russia should be one of our best trading partners.

You know, I mean, China already is. We, we become dependent upon them, but, But Russia should, too. They’ve got a lot to offer. They’ve got. Really. And you also don’t want to bomb your trading partner, right? I mean, what’s keeping us from going to war with China for real is the. They’re like, I don’t want to bomb my supplier. No, you know, I, I don’t either. But they paint these boogeymen out there to keep us. I mean, the whole part of the whole motive of the Cold War was to keep justifying defense spending, you know, at high levels because, oh, we got this evil.

So these evil communists are going to come get us. I mean, it’s really kind of silly, actually. You look back at it and I’ll tell you, one of my theories is this, is that during the Cold War, we’re putting all these money in ICP, CBMs, and nuclear weapons. I’ll be willing to bet you 50 bucks that half of them are loaded with dummies and wouldn’t fire if you try to anyway. Because why are they going to build a weapon that they’re never going to use? They knew they weren’t going to use. They knew they weren’t going to nuke the rest, so they, they could use it as a money laundering scheme.

Actually, that’s what it is. Is there a missile in the silo? But if you press the go button, will it launch? Maybe, maybe not. We don’t know. We don’t want to find out. We don’t. Well, we don’t want to find out anyways, but okay. Well, thank you so much, Mike. I really appreciate you joining the program. Well, thank you, Sarah. It’s always a pleasure. Thank you so much.
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