Jon Dowling Jim Pugh Discuss THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR REVEAL AND CLOSURE

➡ The podcast guest, Jim Pugh, discusses the financial changes needed for geopolitical shifts. He explains that economies are built on trade, financial systems, and currency, and these aspects are being negotiated in trade agreements. He also talks about the need for governments to reset their currencies, which could involve aligning with other countries. He further explains the concept of ‘sovereigns’, which is the connection between governments and their banks. Lastly, he clarifies his previous comments about the possibility of a retail exchange for currency, stating that while he doesn’t know of any, it could potentially happen at a lesser value than the sovereign level.
➡ The speaker discusses the uncertainty surrounding a potential retail exchange, noting that no authoritative figure has confirmed its existence. Despite this, the speaker suggests that it could still occur. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of faith and divine guidance in understanding these matters, and mentions that Iraq’s financial reforms and the rising price of gold could be encouraging signs. The speaker concludes by mentioning a breaking space event involving three comets.
➡ The speaker discusses the concept of a firmament, a sealed dome, as described in Genesis, which separates the waters above from the waters below. They suggest that there are technologies and knowledge within this firmament that have been hidden from us, including gene splicing, which has been prevalent since the time of the fallen angels. The speaker also discusses the idea of a controlled environment within the firmament, where nothing can enter or leave unless allowed by God. Lastly, they touch on the topic of calendar manipulation and the anticipation of a period of darkness, suggesting that we are in a time of transition and that these events will occur soon.
➡ The text discusses the potential implementation of Nesara, a proposed economic reform theory. It suggests that President Trump’s actions, such as discussing $2,000 stimulus checks and transparency, could be early signs of this. The text also mentions that changes need to be made at the state level, with some states already making moves towards this. Finally, it discusses the importance of peace for the successful implementation of these changes, with Trump’s peace deal in the Middle East being a significant step.
➡ The text discusses the difference between the biblical nation of Israel and the modern state of Israel, suggesting that many people misunderstand this distinction. It suggests that the state of Israel is not the same as the biblical nation and is instead a corporation formed by the Rothschilds. The text also implies that the state of Israel has significant global influence, including control over central banks and involvement in various global events. Finally, it suggests that understanding the true nature of Israel is crucial for global peace and stability.
➡ The speaker discusses the potential for a significant shift in wealth and societal benefits due to emerging financial trends, such as Bitcoin. They express optimism about the public being informed about these changes, despite society’s desire for immediate results. They also mention the concept of a ‘soft disclosure’, where information is gradually released to the public. Lastly, they highlight the potential for a wealth transfer that will benefit humanity as a whole, rather than just individuals.

Foreign this video is sponsored by Chakra 17. Awaken your vitality with our anti aging coffee. Hi everyone. Welcome to the podcast. We have a returning guest, Mr. Jim Pugh, who’s been gracious enough to join us once again in the ever present discussion for which we’re widely known, which is the various levels of the well transfer a levels deep and all of them. And he’s going to be discussing his insights of of what he can share in as far as said reset is concerned and we’re going to clarify some things that we discussed in our past podcast.

So if you’re new to the program please do like subscribe and share. It helps the channel grow and others to gain in the knowledge you’ve been afforded. As you know, Jim is a a proficient person in the financial side, subject matter expert. He also teaches many Bible classes and has over 30 plus years of experience in this realm and you can find out more about him in the link we’ll leave later in the description. God is government.com Jim, thanks for joining us today. How are you? Good sir, I’m good, thank you. Thanks for being here once again.

So let’s start at the top. I had a chance to review some of the fallout from our last podcast and unsurprisingly to you, I’m sure people tend to take sound bites and extrapolate them instead of hearing the subtext and the details. And a lot of people think they heard you say that the public is not going to exchange when in fact that’s not what you said. And so I want to debunk that and clarify once again for people to hear it a second time because sometimes people need to hear it again. So could you kindly reprise what you were saying about how the non public aspect is divorced in terms of the tiered structure from the public and that the public is just going to go in and do an exchange that is complementary but different than the non public.

If you would please. Well, I mean in the change of this world, both geopolitical and financial, we have to have a financial change in order to affect the geopolitical change that the world has to go through. And we talked about levels of, we talked about process requirements last time on the 60,000 foot level and what to what to look for and some of that stuff. And we got into some of the details as it relates to the financial system and as, as with any change that has happened in the past, there are levels of change that will take place in the financial system as well.

And you, you have to set that Change in various components. There’s the economy is built on a three legged stool. It’s built upon trade, it’s built upon the financial system as a whole and it’s built upon currency. And when you look at those levels, we, we find that all three of those levels is exactly what Donald Trump has said he’s negotiating in the trade agreements with each country. So we can expect that the trade agreements that are negotiated with all countries on a bilateral basis include trade, include the financial system between the two countries and includes the currency of both countries and the value of that currency which will be set in accordance to the agreement.

And in looking at that structure then you have what has to include from a top down approach. If you do that, then basically governments have to reset their currency. And what does that mean? That means that they have to institute a, their own country’s currency inside their government in order to facilitate not only in country transactions, but transactions on the world stage in accordance to the trade agreement which in the past was done and managed by the US petrodollar from the central banks. So in understanding that then you can understand that the petrodollar goes away and governments have to reset their currency.

Now that does not mean that all countries are going to have their own currency from a trade perspective. They’re all going to have their in country currency that they use for their citizenry. But if that country does not have sufficient assets to manage trade on a world stage, they can align themselves with another country like the US Combine their assets with us and come out and use the United States new currency as the vehicle by which they would pay for their international trade. Okay, so that is the governmental side. Now you take it and you said, okay, if we do that, we got to take it down to the bank side.

And that is where you get a term called sovereign. Because in essence it’s the connection between the government and their central banks or in country banks, if they don’t have a central bank in order to provide the ability to transact. So at the first tier you have the governments, then, then you have the combination between governance, governments and banks called sovereigns. And then you have underneath that those individuals that are participating with currency at a sovereign level. Okay, and we went through last time the history of how that worked. Okay, Every, every country that has ever been in a war basically has, has taken out of the, the marketplace their own currency.

And when everything is being rebuilt, they come out with a new country’s currency. And that typically is what’s be what is used to pay off the host country that has basically paid for their reconstruction. That happened in the Korean War, it happened in the Vietnam War, it’s happened in the, in the Kuwait war, it happened in the Iraq War. That’s just the normal course of getting things done in the economy. So people in the past that were normal citizens typically didn’t even know that that was going on. It was only in the, what I call very high net worth connected big boys that actually were able to participate in that type of restructure and financial wealth transfer from that country to, to the individual or to the country.

But lo and behold, in this world reset, some individuals were able to take the currency that they own and participate at that sovereign level of, of transaction. Now last time we talked about the difference between that and a retail exchange which is basically for citizens throughout the world to be able to take their currency and, and get an exchange value for that currency. Well, I made two points. One point is, was a straight economic point of view. If on the world stage the countries by treaty has to set a value for its currency, then the currency that they’re going to issue must be predetermined to determine a currency value per dollar.

In other words, they take their whole country’s assets, mathematically whole country’s assets divided by the amount of currency that they’re going to put out and they come out with a rate per currency. And that rate is negotiated then into the trade agreements associated with a one to one, a fair balanced value for the two countries to trade with. And what I, what I said was last time was if they did not know what is out in the market that people are still buying today, okay, if they did not know what the currency value was in that market, how could they stabilize their rate in any world stage? They can’t.

Economically, it cannot be done. So I prefaced my comment last time by saying on an economic basis the country that is, that is negotiating their trade agreement must have a stabilized currency in quantity and must have a stabilized value per currency to negotiate a trade agreement. Or you can’t have fair and balanced trade which because you don’t know what your current currency value truly is. So on an economic basis it does not make sense. This is what I stated last time. It does not make sense that there is this worldwide market of people to be able to go exchange any country’s currency to a value based upon those treaties.

Just economically it doesn’t work. And I went ahead, went a step further and says that it does. I, I do not know. I do not know I have not been told. And I’m going to ask a couple of questions to you as well. I do not know of any retail exchange. I don’t know of one. And what I said was, I said the same thing last time. And I said if there is one, based upon the fact that they can’t do it from an economic standpoint, that the, that the treasury with, inside the individual country, they may, may is the operative word.

Offer some type of retail exchange on the currency at some lesser value than what’s in those treaties, of course, because they’re gonna, they’re gonna get at a discount to them. They may offer some type of retail exchange at a value set that is much different than the value set at a sovereign level. I don’t know. Okay, now that’s what I said last time. That’s what I’m saying again. Now what I think is going on in your audience mind is that I’m saying that there’s no, there’s not going to be a retail exchange. Well, one part that is true, another part I don’t know.

And I’ve, I’ve tried to clarify both sides of the argument with regards to a retail exchange. But I have to say this. I don’t know and I don’t think anybody else out there knows because I don’t think anybody in this world has been told from a person of authority that there would be a retail exchange. Donald Trump hasn’t said it. Scott Besson hasn’t said it. DoD hasn’t said it. World bank hasn’t said it. Bank of International Settlement haven’t hasn’t said it. So I don’t know of anyone of authority that has identified that there will be a retail exchange.

But that doesn’t mean that there’s not. And I don’t think, I don’t think even you have been told with any degree of authority that there would be, nor I can tell you that the people on the blogs, because I tend to look at the blogs every once in a while, know for certain either. So I hope that clarifies. Ask whatever question that you think we might need to further discuss. Yeah, well, thanks, thanks for the articulation. Jim. Before, before I get into the next set of questions, you said you had a question for me, so I wanted to address that.

I just, I just ask it. Have you been told from any authority that there is going to be a retail exchange? Well, first of all, let me take it back to something I know we, we wholly agree that man’s plans are not God’s plans. Right. You teach your Bible studies predicated, I’m sure heavily on that and a variety of subjects. God always made it clear to me when I was in this 13 years ago, there was never a question of if but when. So humanly speaking, no, I have not gotten that. But divine prophetically or just the relationship with God that I have.

You have that many of my audience has. I’ve gotten peace and clarity about that. Otherwise for me there’s no point to do this. So I’m hearing from the highest authority that I need to hear from that God would not ever when we prayed to God for bread, would he give us a stone. And God does not back off that his promises in the Bible are 6,000 times yes and amen. So I say that to answer your question my way, which is that he’s given me every certainty that his people will get it. What the rate will be, I don’t know.

That’s why I don’t speculate on dates and rates here. Neither do you. And we are both involved in something that is non public. You have even signed agreements, we’ll keep it that way. That restrict what you can say and that that’s a good thing because people need to be going to him and not to people, even us. I want, I want my audience to go to the Lord not even taking our word for it to get. It’s a, it’s a discernment issue is what I’m trying to say. So that’s how I would answer your question in parlance.

Okay, so. And the reason why I asked that is because I wanted to. I wanted your audience to understand that what you, you believe is going to be the condition of whatever reality this is. It’s not based upon a process that man has already put in place. That it is predicated on what your understanding is from what you have discerned, what God is giving you in whatever information that might be. But I also want to say this as well. And I’m. Yeah, I’ve studied the Bible for over 40 years and I understand how it works. And I also understand, you know, the fact that God is sovereign over everything and whatever he says is truth.

But also understand he doesn’t do it by himself. He always works through man. That’s also scripture. And if he works through man to do what his bidding is, then man should have be in the process of preparing for that in such a way to be implemented. All right. And so that’s where the discernment comes in. I don’t know if there’s one. I don’t know if there’s not one. Okay. But I don’t see the evidence associated with a process flow that would indicate in the short term that’s relative in the short term. There’s any retail exchange that doesn’t say that there isn’t.

But I’m just saying that economically it doesn’t work out. I don’t know how they determine the rate if they didn’t consider that. That’s math. And I don’t think the Holy Spirit would, would allow for a country to go in and do his bidding on this world change because this is a spiritual change. I don’t think that God would allow a country to go in and falsely negotiate a rate that we got to redo the whole thing once we understand what all the currency is in the market. I just don’t understand that. So. Fair enough. And here’s what I would say, you know, from my response to you on that, just to offer, you know, this from a discussion standpoint, we don’t see all there is to see, right? Nope.

You know, like Hebrews 11 says, faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not yet seen. So I don’t think Trump investment and all the, the aforementioned groups you, you mentioned have, they’re not, they weren’t ready to show their hand yet. I, I personally, my ethos is that they’re about to that like you even said, short term relative, it’s a, you know, you know, God operates out outside of time, so time to him doesn’t mean much as it does to us. A day is a thousand years. So all that is to say is that I think personally we’re coming up on the precipice or the tipping point of that in this season.

Kim Clement talked about it, the late, great Kim Clement. They’ll fall in the fall. As you know, I’m saying this for my audience and as much as yourself that I think that they’ve been holding their cards back close to the vest for timing purposes. We don’t know what that is. We don’t need to know. It will reveal itself as it needs to. But I, I’m very encouraged and optimistic that we’re, we’re coming into that, that landing spot. And I just fully believe, as I said a moment ago, that God’s not going to screw his people and leave them out in the wilderness.

He wants people to use this wealth to, to bless a variety of people, lonely, hungry, sick, etc, to be a harvest of souls which, as you know, you’ve said it before last time. It’s biblical and it quite literally is. So then my next question following up, Jim, to that is we see last week Iraq on the third and fourth deemed it Sudani, named it, named it International Iraq Day and extenuated it out. I’m curious just on a very generic level, what your thoughts are about that. And you know, him putting a spotlight on that. Well, he’s been, he’s, they’ve been putting a spotlight on their activities associated with bank and financial reform for months.

And again, you have to go back to who controls that country. That country was overTaken by the US and, and basically the US would control any change of, of their currency and any change of value to that currency based upon when the US as being in control of that says they’re ready to do it. So Iraq can come out and, and, and give all kinds of signs. Okay. Which is good for the market because everybody wants to see that they’re ready to go. And yes, you know, from the standpoint of negotiating the oil, oil to its people, the sharing of the revenues to its people, the fact that they have gone through the banking reform, the fact that, yeah, they’re, they’ve told us that they have passed their budget, they have not done what legally is required yet, which is posting that budget and their currency rate inside the Gazette, which typically happens only twice a week, Sundays and Wednesdays.

And they will not be in a position to do that until, in my opinion, the US Government, because they’re basically the ones that took over control of Iraq when they took out Saddam Hussein, give them the nod that it’s time to do that. Yeah. Again, very timing and strategized for a very specific end game purpose. So. Yeah, absolutely. But I also look at, you see the rising price of gold and silver. You see that Iraq has been loading up in gold and reducing their supply of dollars for the new US Gold note, like you mentioned or alluded to earlier, I see that as a sort of an encouraging touch point to the whole equation.

There’s something else I want to show you, Jim, real quick that I thought was kind of interesting. Wanted to get your take on it. You’ll see here on the screen momentarily. Let me know when you can. When you can see this. Are you seeing it now? Yeah. Okay, so Michael Bradbury next is reporting breaking space event. Three green comets, Atlas, Lemon and Swan are streaking through Earth’s skies at the same time, each glowing at the same eerie green. Scientists call it a coincidence, but we know kingdom, there are no coincidences. So it seems to be that there is some type of earth slash elemental movement going on globally.

It looks like, you know, what has been hidden is now being revealed. Do you have any sort of cursory thoughts about that? Well, anything that. Okay, so let me predicate my comments based upon what scripture says and what that means. So in Genesis, Genesis 1, it said that God put a firmament between the waters above and the waters below, which means that is a sealed dome. Firmament means dome. It’s a sealed dome over the waters above. And they have properties associated with that not going to get into to the structure of that, but there’s properties associated with that connection of the dome to prevent waters coming up from the abyss.

Now if you recall the flood, what actually created the flood initially was the waters from below. In other words, the portals that exist were opened up so that the waters from below flooded the earth because that is how we got the ice. The heat of the water went up to the sky, froze and immediately came down. Then he opened up the heavens and the waters flowed down from there. But there was no rain. If you recall, until the flood itself, there was no rain that had ever existed on earth from the time of creation to the time of the flood.

So what that says is that basically the firmament is a controlled environment that nothing can come in or go out of unless God allows something via his portals, gates, Bible talk come to come through into that. Now that does not say that there is things that have been withheld from us that already reside inside the firmament. Okay. There have been technologies that have existed since the time of the fallen angels talk to men and those technologies have produced all kinds of things from gene splicing. I’m writing on gene splicing today, so it’s just my frame of mind.

The gene splicing started in the Nephilim time the fallen angels. It permeated all the way through the Roman Empire and now it’s prevalent throughout the world in our economy where they’re taking and splicing animal with human DNA. So when you look at this, my thoughts is that number one, to understand what those are to be, call them out by name. Means that it’s man met. God’s not going to reveal the fact that he’s let go three things and he’s going to tell somebody what those three things are. I don’t believe that especially where that information came from.

What I do believe is that there are things that we have not seen inside this firmament because we’ve been told that there’s no land outside of the ice barrel wall. Well, that’s not true either. And we also know that Lucifer and his fallen angels at the time of that live in this world. They live in this world and on top of the world. And if people don’t believe that, then they don’t believe the Bible. They think it Bible’s a myth. So I think that basically what you’re seeing is, is a visualization of what most likely is inside this firmament.

That basically they’re trying to show a level of force, call some hands to be looked at. And that’s what I think. Okay, thank you, Jen, Appreciate that. Next point or question I wanted to bring up to you was this interesting point. It’s been bantied about, as you well know, being in this for quite a while. The discussion of the calendar changes, calendar manipulation, weather manipulation, all coming from man and. Right. Sizing this whole process. Right. You talked about geopolitical and financial marry and collide together. Here’s another seminal example of that. So we’ve been hearing a lot about, you know, over the years, ten days of Darkness.

Jack Straw, as you can see, posted this 1582. Ten days equated to October 5th to the 14th were erased from the original time introduction of the growing calendar. We know they’ve been stealing time from us like they’ve been stealing our wealth and our inheritance and all of that. My question to you would be is what are your thoughts on this specific time frame that we’re in here over the next, we’ll say generously, two weeks and marrying that with the next question. Jim, is the discussion of the EAs that a lot of people have been anticipating, do you see that forthcoming and if so, give a time frame in mind? Well, I have to go back to the truth on the publication of the Q post.

All right. Because that’s where this is all introduced. That’s where, where everybody got their information that there would be an EBS and there would be 10 days of darkness. And in the Q post, if one would look at it, did a search in all of the Q post as to the, the, the notifications that came out by Q regarding a shutdown. And if you pull all those together, you’re going to find, you know, five to 10 posts that are relevant to today. Because I think with the knowledge that I have, this is the only shutdown we’re going to have.

And the shutdown is predicated on a number of events and there’s been a lot of cons out about that midnight, 30 September was the fiscal year ended for the corporation. The corporation was not funded. And therefore we know that the, the corporation has been bankrupt and the reorganization of that bankrupt corporation into back to the Republic is in the process of taking place. We also know that the predication of the flag officers meeting on October 1st is significant because if you understand history, you would understand that who controls the United States from its inception is the military.

Congress didn’t doesn’t control it. Senate doesn’t control it. The executive office has some privileges over that. But it’s the military that is actually in charge. It has been in charge of these United States since its inception. But on the first, that allegiance in regards to that control to the British Empire was shifted because they were required to be REO into the Republic, meaning that their allegiance is now to our Constitution and not to the British Crown. That was significant. So when you look at all of this and see the just those activities that are in the public eye, many things behind the scenes, but those activities in the public eye, one should understand that we’re into the time frame of the transition.

And in that time frame of transition there’s one and only one shutdown that was ever talked about and we’re in it. And when you look at that, you’re going to find that there is something called the ten days of darkness. And what does that mean? And then there’s something called the EDS. Okay, there is a 10 days of darkness that will take place. Now we’re already October 6th. That calendar started October 5th through the, through the 15th. Well, we just blew through that. So that calendar and that perspective doesn’t apply because reality didn’t happen that way.

Will it happen? Yes, it’s going to happen. When something that I can’t talk about relative in days versus weeks. I think we’re, we’re not months away. We’re in a very short period of time that all of this has got to take place. And the EBS has always been told as the vehicle of, of transparent communication with any change as we, as everybody’s already talked about, we’ve talked about it last time a bit is that Trump has said he’s going to be the most transparent president that has ever existed. And in doing so, he’s going to have to show the people how this world was operated, who did what to whom and why the corruption exists and to what degree the corruption has been taken care of.

And that all happens not by just minor disclosure. There has to be a major sit down where people can actually look at stuff in a movie type fashion, an ongoing presentation and look at it many times because they’re not going to get it the first time. Matter of fact, emotions are going to probably prevent them from understanding what it said the first time anyway. It’s going to take them a number of times to watch it to actually understand what they’re being told. So yeah, both events are going to happen and timing wise were we’re in the period of time that that should transpire very shortly.

I appreciate that Jim, because when you were speaking, what I heard you say is we’re in the birthing pains. We’re right in the midst of the process, more or less. Is that a fair character? Sure. I mean we’re, we’re in a last phase and in that last phase, according to Q, there is going to be a shutdown. There’s going to be elements within that has to happen within that shutdown. And if somebody wants to know the roadmap, just go to Q and do a search on shutdown and see what it all tells you. Right? Right. Absolutely.

The, the queue posts and I think it’s quad will tell you a lot of that stuff as you put pieces together. So marrying what you just said, Jim, with the next segue of questions for you and it’s not to the point is not to pin you down to dates or anything like that puzzle piece is timelines the construct of this. So we see President Trump now talked about transparency. Very important word. You see President Trump now starting to tell the public as you saw with the deep fake last week in front of the White House press corps about med beds.

Caroline Levitt, press secretary did not deny it was very transparent about how transparent he is. But there’s a con you have him talking about now $2,000 stimulus checks. I seems to be smacks of the beginning elements or a component, a component of Nesara curiously enough now in October it’s always telling us we’re going to have a great Christmas. Even said back in August, as you recall, Jim, your history buff like me, that come December, January the economy is going to be rocking and that that comprises a lot of things reset Nasara and they intermarry well or interlock quite well.

Do you agree with that assessment or do you see it differently? I agree with a lot. I agree with the comms that are being putting out because if you, if you look to the past and and to to visualize the future and see what happened in the past come to fruition in the future, you find that Donald Trump and his people like to soft disclose and they do that various ways, putting out a true social post and then taking it down and then talking about it. All kinds of things that they have used to soft disclose what is coming up.

So I don’t think anything is by coincidence in accordance, in accordance to any type of communication. So we talked last time about Nasara Jasar and I said it, it’s not a switch. You can’t turn the switch on and everything happen at one time. The system can’t operate that way. Are there some Gesara Nasara stuff have already taken place? Yeah. Okay. Is there more to come? Yes. Is it all going to happen at one time? No. Or do you see states lining up to be in compliance with that law? Yes. Look at Florida, they’re, they’re taking away all property taxes.

That’s part of. Okay, so the elements of this are implemented. I can tell you this, that they have to be implemented at the state level. So if you really want to line up all of the gistar Nasara requirements, look to your state, because it’s not going to be federal, because federal already is giving back everything to the state and it’s states who have to implement that. So if you want to see it rolled out, look at your state, see where your state’s at. All right. In the state of Texas, they’ve been arguing for months about eliminating property tax.

All right, that’s still not there yet. Okay. What other states? Well, you know, state of California is not, you know, state of New York’s not, you know, Michigan’s not, you know, you know, Illinois is not. Okay. So for all of this to roll out, you’re going to have to have states participate in this to make it all work. So that’s the reason why it’s significantly important for individuals to be participating in their state governments, local governments and so forth, because that’s going to be the driver. Okay. It’s already enacted at the federal level. They’ve already pushed everything down.

Everything’s got to happen at the state level. Where is your state? That’s the question of this game. So is it the end of the year? Yeah. I mean, Trump’s already said he’s, he’s already come out, every one of his cabinets come out and says, you know what, this market is going to crash. Stablecoin and tokens and, and Trump’s bitcoins are going to lead the market. You’ve got leaders from countries that says Trump has revolutionized the financial market by his gold bitcoins. Okay. So this is not quiet activity. This is being told to people across a wide spectrum of information.

And it’s a matter of whether or not they just pay attention to line up the process, dots to see this coming to fruition from now to the end of the year. Thank you. That’s. You said a lot within that. I pray the audience caught the marrow of that. You just gave a very specific time frame that people can, I believe, you know, sink their teeth into. And, Jim, to compliment your point, if I may, Bitcoin, absolutely. But XRP becoming their own bank. You talked about this on our last podcast, if I recall, ISO 20022 being implemented, I believe worldwide by, I think November 22nd falls right into the holiday season, you know.

So let’s take what you just said that was very important, Jim, in my opinion, and take it to the next level. Let’s go. I’m going to go backwards and forwards with you, if you will, at the same time. Okay? So just bear with me. You’re talking about the evidence of things. We’re talking about the reset, okay. And President Trump wants to be the one to announce it, obviously with the military support. This we know last. Excuse me. Over this weekend, he solidified the massive peace deal he’s got with the Middle east, specifically Hamas. You saw the announcement from his awful office on Saturday, right from the Resolute desk that that is in process bringing back the hostages.

To me, that seems to have very important optical evidentiary, if you will, for the public, not for necessarily our audience, but the whole of society, the 99, whatever, 95, 99 of the, the society that is green to this whole thing that you bring. You said it in the beginning of our podcast last time, peace and prosperity go hand in hand, correct. That you need peace to execute all these things. Well, now he’s optically saying it for the world to hear that he’s making a peace deal that’s actually going to stick and that they’re abiding by it.

Now, we know this happened behind the scenes a while ago, but again, he’s got to make the announcement. So what I’m winding up to, Jim, is with you said in the beginning of the show about the need of the evidence needing to be disclosed. This seems to me to be a key component of that because the Middle east encapsulates Iraq, Iran. You saw Iran talking about now redenominating their toman rial, depending on whether you, like you said, in or out of country. And I’ve educated my audience that they already know that the Iraqi citizens, what they get for an exchange rate is very divorced from what we get here in America because they have oil revenues that we aren’t going to be participating in.

So that is a disparate discussion, but it’s important to know how the sausage is made. So with him announcing this imminent peace deal, optically, how important is that for what we’re all looking to see, in your estimation? Oh, my gosh, that’s like going down a rabbit hole that’s got like five or six tunnels to it. Let’s just say that the optics of this is, is many fold. And let’s just talk two. One is the uniting of the Arabic nations that is crucial in this because he’s already set the stage. And if you go back to the trade agreement with Qatar, when he was there, inside that trade agreement, there was the agreement of an, a piece of land inside the Arabic area that would be controlled by a corporation that Trump would actually manage for reasons of stability.

Okay. Over a period of time. Remember, the world’s got to be at peace. We’ve talked, we’ve talked about this. By the treaty associated with all countries to do this, there is a requirement for the world to be at peace. Now, that doesn’t say that the world will stay at peace, okay. That just says that at the time that all of this done, the world has got to be at peace because they need time to implement the this and they can’t implement this whole framework with a world at war because there would be, would be conflicting directions.

So inside of all of this framework are going to be areas that have to be controlled. And one of those areas happens to be in the Middle East. And Trump said, I’m going to do this, put in the corporation. The other thing he said was we’re going to put in what a board of peace that is facilitated by the Arab nations along with Israel that I would chair and Tony Blair would co chair. Okay? Now, Tony Blair’s not a good guy, but in essence, all of the moves have to be the moves in order to complete the overall process.

So adding Tony Blair, that there’s, that’s another tunnel. That’s the reason I said I’m not going to go down all the tunnels. I’m just going to talk about the big picture and then focus on one other. So the big picture is how does the Arab nations work together to ensure their peace, okay? Because they’re warring with each other and they’ve got to be at peace before they actually can come to peace with Israel. Okay. So that’s really significant in this whole framework, okay. To see all of that take place. Now, the other side is twofold on Israel.

One is the proper public’s image of who Israel is. I want. I’m going to say that again. It is the perspective, it is the popular populace understanding of who Israel is. A lot of people don’t understand who Israel is. Therefore they. They take what scripture actually says and apply it to this current day Israel and think there they are applying God’s principles to the country of Israel. Well, I’m here to tell you that the state of Israel is not the nation of Israel that is biblical. So God said, I those who bless my nation of Israel will be blessed.

And those cursed my nation of Israel would be cursed as well. But that’s not the state of Israel. The state of Israel is a corporation. Many corporations that were formed based upon the Rothschilds getting the land, the territory that Israel sets on in an agreement with the British crown called the Balor Agreement that he actually wrote, by the way, because he was in control. So he acquired the land that Israel is in possession of today. He actually brought in from Turkey the leadership of the State of Israel, and he basically formed that as the head of the spear for all of the cabal.

So the world has got to wake up to who this state of Israel is. That’s part of this because you’re seeing the chess plates, all right, and you’re seeing who’s controlling who, because you had Bibi come out after Trump called him and said, oh, it appears that we have now the framework B being agreed upon. And Bibi says, oh, that’s hogwash that you know that’s not true. It’s not going to happen. And, and Trump, I mean, you can, if you follow Bannon, if you follow a lot of other Truth Truth podcast, they’re actually laying this out that basically, who’s in control of who? Is Israel going to control the United States or is the United States going to control Israel? They are now raising the bar of understanding who Israel truly is.

And that’s important for the world because as the state of Israel, that state has got to come down, okay? It’s got to be dissolved, right? It has got to be taken out and all of its leadership has to be removed. Let me just give you another thing. Israel is the ones who’s funding Hamas. Israel’s giving orders to M about the hostages, okay? Israel is, is having hostages through a proxy of Hamas controlled by Israel’s leadership. So who’s not releasing the hostages? Israel. Okay? So, so all of this has got to come out in a framework that people now understand who Israel is because they.

That is the head of the head. That is the head of what’s going on in Ukraine, that’s the head of what’s going on in Taiwan, that’s the head of all going through the central banks, the control over the Vatican, everything. Israel is the head of the Cabal’s location is the head. Which is why. Sorry, go ahead. No, I said. And that’s got to be show. And the last thing with Israel is the awareness. The awareness of. Now you understand the difference between the nation of Israel and the state of Israel now is the takedown. Everybody has got to get on board because if the takedown of Israel is not done in the proper sequencing, then it’s going to cause the chaos that they’re trying to prevent on all other world events.

Absolutely. I just didn’t, I don’t want to interrupt you. So again, like Q said, Israel will be last. And we know that Israel is also responsible. To your point, Jim, to supplement your code, your points, Israel has also been wholly responsible for, you know, the secret attacks on the nuclear power plants of Iran. 300ft below the surface to deal with that as well goes hand in hand. So you made a lot of important sub points going down the rabbit hole without fully going down because we don’t have the time or energy for it, obviously in this segment.

But I don’t want to skirt over something you said that I thought was critically important that I know, I’d like to know. My audience, many of them would like to know, and I agree with you, that this peace process is for a limited time. The question is, if you can answer it, how much time do we have globally for some faction of peace? Oh, I, you know what, I can’t answer that because number one, I don’t know. Okay. I don’t know. I can, I predicate it on what I go back now to my biblical side, my spiritual side.

I predicated on the fact that basically there’s seven years of prosperity and seven years of famine. So if I, if I have any baseline that I look towards, I look, I look at this to Scripture and I feel like that basically what I understand from my knowledge base of geopolitical matters and the fact that this is a spiritual transformation of the world system, I think that God is going to utilize all of the historical patterns that he’s done in the past. And so I think, in my opinion, I think we’re in a seven year basis of prosperity followed by a seven year space of famine.

And then we figure out where we go. Now that’s 14 years. Okay. If you go to Hosea and you take scripture and you identify and you look at scripture and then you match the, the, you use the one year to a thousand year mark and Jose says in the third day, you know, tribulation is going to come. Well, if you take that, that is, that’s somewhere between the year 2000 and the year 3000. Okay. Because you go to, from one to, to a thousand, that’s somewhere in that time period. And knowing that we’re in the last days of the church, we’re in the church of Leodicea and according to scripture and seeing where we are on the timelines of getting things done in the world predicated to Daniel 10 and so forth, is dealing with the end times prophecies, you might say that that that year that starts that third day period based upon the life of Jesus Christ.

You might say that that third year starts at 2033 and it can happen anytime in that period of time after that. So what I see is a very short time and that 14 years applies exactly that time. So that’s, that’s how I get to this. I’m just laying the foundation for your audience is to understand where I’m coming from is not something that’s outside of scripture. No, I appreciate that and I, I resonate with what you’re saying because Joseph is a very prominent and important character and figure for me in, in biblical history, particularly Genesis 36 to 50 denoting the scripture for your, for your parlance.

And, and I’ve been telling the people within my circle that I personally believe it’s going to be seven years of harvest and seven years of faith famine, but that God’s people will be blessed to be in a position for the harvest to help the different parts. That that is, that’s how God does it. He did that with Joseph, associated with the famine in, in throughout the world and everybody came to Egypt. That’s what brought his family back to him. That’s brought all of that stuff. God positioned Joseph to be in the position to provide for his family in accordance to the prophecy that he gave Joseph in the dream.

So yeah, I mean that’s the reason why I said I just go back to the scripture to, to get an understanding of that time period. Absolutely. And then, and then kitty corner that with what we talked about last time. Leviticus 25, 9:12. Right. Every 50 years in Jewish calendar. I’m just Doing this for my audience. You know, restoration of the land and the clan, removal of debts. Right. Sizing and balancing things because we’ve been out of balance for so long. I mean, we don’t even know, we don’t even know which way is up sometimes. So. Last question for today, Jim, respect your time and to put a nice bow on this for the audience to bring additional clarity to them as you’re waiting for the evidentiary elements to come out.

As you prefaced earlier, what is something that you do see right now that offers you a lot of genuinity of encouragement? You can share that, you can share with the audience that we’re at the end stage of this because, you know, everybody’s suffering in a variety of ways, financially, health, emotionally. This, this battle has taken its toll on a lot of people in different ways. As you can appreciate, what’s something that you can offer as genuine, not tickling their ears, but genuine factual encouragement. Where we are right now, between now and the end of the year, as you said, that you feel is a really good place for us to look at as a sign of encouragement going forward? Well, and, and what everybody really wants to know is the financial system.

That’s, that’s what everybody’s really focused on. And I guess, you know, if one, if one would just do a little research and, and listen to the powers that be talk about what is happening in December and January, what you find is Trump’s coming out and saying with legitimacy from, you know, the, the CEO of Bitcoin saying this is, this is going to revolutionize the world, the world leaders saying the same thing, financial institutions worldwide saying the same thing. And that’s it. Saying the same thing is, is you can, the encouragement comes from what you’re being told.

But a lot of times people, and I’m not trying to be cavalier with this, people just don’t either one, want to listen to that or two, they don’t care because it is not what they want to have, which is immediacy. We’re, we’re, we’re a society that we don’t allow things to progress in a time, manner that is basically God’s time time. We’re an instantaneous society. So if we’re told something, we want it to happen now. And that’s not what’s going to happen. But what encourages me is they’re coming out into the public and telling the public what is going on and when is it going to happen and it’s revolutionized and you need to do this and they’re given time for people to actually join the, the group that has the capability of, of with a very small entry cost, walk away with a substantial amount of shift in value in their wealth.

And so that’s what’s encouraging to me. I see it all across the board and everything, but I pay attention to it. Okay. So yeah, so I see that and that’s really encouraging. When they start as again I said they soft disclose, they soft discovery disclose and they do that over and over and over again. So when the hard disclosure comes out, it’s really not a big deal. Right. Okay. So that’s what it’s encouraging is they’re more and more the soft disclosure is coming out on all kinds of things. Agree. And we touched on some of that earlier in the podcast, like the Med Beds for instance, Press Corp.

Just as a reprise and just to add to the cachet, what you said, Jim, is what encourages me in addition to what you’re sharing is not only they doing predictive programming, but the non public groups which will be funded at a different level. A lot of those people are going to be blessing family, society. So there’ll be a pouring before the pouring. So there’ll be this, this multitude of blessing that’s coming. I find that very encouraging as well. Yeah, I mean people, people are going to receive a wealth transfer that’s given. Okay. That’s also scriptural, by the way.

Yep. Okay. But society as a whole is going to benefit more than the wealth transfer based upon how this is all structured. Because off the top and inside the large movement of funds controlled by sovereigns, there is a large portion of all the funds that have to go to humanity in all kinds of ways. And that is what’s going to provide more of the benefit to humanity than just the wealth transfer. Because it’s going to be phenomenal to see how humanity gets uplifted to the point where they can then focus on their relationship to God versus the requirement of try to figure out how I’m going to make another buck for the guys that are in charge.

Absolutely. Well, thanks Jim. We appreciate all your time and expertise in these matters. Now that we’ve answered all that, talk a little bit about where people can find your work, please. Yeah, I’m, I’m on any podcast platform you get your podcast. But all of my work is culminated in the website called goddessgovernment.com. my books, my podcast, my Bible studies are all visible there for anybody who wants to see. Absolutely. Willie will leave that link in the description below and below this video. Also, folks, our chief sponsor for current currencies talked about it. You know it well, if God is leading you to buy currency or add to the cachet of what you have, he’s your financial advisor first and foremost.

But if you need a resource, we have that. We’ll leave that link below the video description here. Just check it out. Quality product for you to take a look at. Jim Pugh, thank you for joining us on the podcast, sir. We appreciate your time and expertise, and we’ll look forward to talking again in the future. Thank you. Thank you.
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