(8/21/2025) | On-The-Clock With SGAnon | Ep4: County Sheriffs and Public Grand Juries: The Recipe for Americas Restoration

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Summary

➡ In this episode of “On the Clock,” the host discusses the importance of understanding and reclaiming lawful power in the United States with guests Peacemaker Aldo, Sheriff Richard Mack, and Mr. Scotty Sachs. Sheriff Mack shares his experience of standing up to the federal government’s overreach and his lawsuit against the Clinton administration, which led to a landmark 10th Amendment state sovereignty case. He emphasizes the need for proper training in law enforcement and understanding of the Constitution to protect citizens’ rights. The conversation also touches on the role of sheriffs in maintaining peace and the importance of public education to prevent future abuses of power.
➡ Aldo, a digital space influencer, advocates for peaceful protests and lawful assembly against tyranny. He emphasizes the importance of constitutional sheriffs who protect the people and enforce the constitution, rather than just following orders from judges. Aldo criticizes the 1946 Supreme Court decision that shifted the power of criminal processing from the people to prosecutors, which he believes undermined the people’s sovereignty. He encourages citizens to restore their rights through unity and movements like RestoreGrandjuryRights.org and peacemakersheriff.org.
➡ The text discusses the corruption in the legal and judicial systems, emphasizing the importance of grand juries and the role of sheriffs in maintaining justice. It highlights the need for education and awareness about these issues, and the potential for local action to have a national impact. The text also mentions the importance of constitutional sheriffs and grand juries in restoring sovereignty and combating corruption. It ends by questioning the knowledge and integrity of current sheriffs and their understanding of the Constitution.
➡ The text discusses the importance of grand juries and their role in the justice system. It emphasizes the need for these juries to be independent and not influenced by the judiciary or any other entity. The text also highlights the role of a Grand Jury Oversight Committee, which ensures the grand jury is informed of its duties, collects complaints from the community, and ensures the jury has resources to complete its duty. The text encourages citizens to take responsibility and be involved in the process, and warns against false grand jury initiatives that have no legal basis.
➡ The speaker is advocating for the importance of citizen grand juries and the role of sheriffs in maintaining law and order. They express concern about the state of Washington undermining the role of sheriffs and the need for funding to hold a conference to educate sheriffs from across the country. They also encourage people to join the CSPOA posse, a group dedicated to restoring the Constitution and taking back America, county by county. They believe that the solution to current issues lies in the people regaining control of their grand juries and sheriffs, and restoring America to its constitutional foundation.
➡ The speaker believes that sheriffs, as important public servants, can help combat corruption and restore the grand jury system. However, they need more education, funding, and support from the public. The speaker encourages everyone to get involved at a local level, whether it’s through activism, joining organizations, or even coaching a sports team. They stress that maintaining liberty requires constant vigilance from the American people.

Transcript

Good afternoon patriots, and welcome to episode four of on the Clock with SG and on a show made possible in partnership between Q News, Patriot and Sovereign Radio. Today I’m joined with some fantastic guests, I think to handle some very interesting topics about the judiciary and reclaiming our lawful power and our lawful standing as we the people of this great United States of America. I have on the broadcast with us today Peacemaker Aldo joining us from Virginia, Sheriff Richard Mack coming at us from Arizona, I believe, and Mr. Scotty Sachs. Gentlemen, it’s great to have you on today.

Thank you for joining me on this episode of on the Clock. Great to ask. G. Yes, I’m in Arizona. Yeah, thanks for having us. SG we appreciate the opportunity. Amen. Well, I have to say I really appreciate the opportunity to have this discussion and to cross pollinate this discussion in a way that’s meaningful and actionable for the public out there. You know, we the people have spent a number of years now really post Covid and post the election steal of 2020 educating ourselves about not what happened, but how to prevent it from happening again. We’ve delved into history, we’ve delved into politics, we’ve looked into the history of the judiciary, for example, and many other areas.

And I think as we come to this four halfway through this decade, we the people are now beginning to understand that now we have the education, we have to do something with it. So with that being said, you know, Sheriff Mack, you and I have been on broadcast before together. We’re familiar with cspoa and I want to talk a little bit about your organization as well here in just a moment. But for the folks out there that may be meeting you for the first time, do you mind to give us just a very, very quick summary of how you came to the discussion and what the power of the sheriff really is all about? Well, I came to the discussion because I was elected sheriff in Graham County, Arizona, in my hometown in 1988.

I got, I lost my third election and it was due to something really crazy that I did as sheriff. I actually stood up all by myself. Well, with a good, with the help of the Lord and a very good wife. And I sued the federal government, I sued the Clinton administration. And that was because they wanted to destroy the office of sheriff by their overreach and their tyranny. And they said that the sheriffs of this country will enforce the Brady Bill for us and they’ll do it for free and they’ll do it without any negotiation or contract.

And if they don’t do it. We’ll arrest them. And that’s right in the Brady Bill. I’m not making any of that up. They threatened to arrest us if we failed to comply. And all of the sheriffs in Arizona were really pissed off about it. And I, I loved all of them. They were great men, but none of them wanted to do anything about it. And that really disappointed me. And so on the way home, I drove home and I had a two and a half hour drive home. And I was just brooding about all of this.

How, how could they acquiesce? They hated it and said, but you can’t fight city hall. They, all of them kept saying that over and over. It started getting me mad, and I even asked at one point. I didn’t talk very much. I was the youngest sheriff in the state at the time, and I wasn’t, I wasn’t a heavyweight at all. But I did ask him, who wants you to believe that you can’t fight city hall? City hall does. The big government boys do. So I, by the time I drove home, I decided I was going to sue the government.

And at the same time, I took, I wasn’t, I was scared to death of that. But then I took relief because I said, there’s no way my wife’s going to support that. She’s not going to let me do it. And if she had said no, I wouldn’t have done it. And she must have had a bad hair day that day because she said yes. And she goes, she even went further than that. She said, maybe now we know why you were supposed to be sheriff. And because it was such a miracle that I was ever elected in the first place.

I hadn’t even lived there for 12 years when I ran for sheriff. We just moved home and ran for sheriff. But I did have some very solid police experience of about 12 years, and I did everything in law enforcement imaginable. So I was new blood and I was old blood at the same time. And that fit in really the political atmosphere of the time. In my hometown, it’s a small area, about 44,5000 people in the entire county, the fourth smallest county in Arizona. And then from there, we actually miraculously went to the Supreme Court. Six other sheriffs joined the lawsuit from across the country.

And the miracle happened. One, I lost my election. And I, the, the people in my county just really got ticked saying, we just want a sheriff. We don’t want an activist. We, we want a sheriff. And he’s wasting his time. He’s not even going to get to the Supreme Court. He’s going to lose, and I couldn’t disagree with him on that. I never thought we’d get to the Supreme Court, but the miracle happened. And even a miracle on top of that, we won. And it’s the most powerful 10th Amendment state sovereignty case in the history of our country.

And I do that full time now of preaching that case and preaching the Constitution and trying to get the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers association be a household term and movement in every sheriff’s office and every law enforcement agency across this country. And we really still need a lot of help with that. Very well said and thank you for the history on that. Before I turn the question over or the next question, I should say to peacemaker Aldo joining us out of Virginia Beach, I’ve got another question for you really quick, Sheriff Mack, and that’s with respect to sheriffs themselves.

You know, you talked about acquiescence a second ago. I would characterize that as apathy or complacence. Is that where we went wrong at the constitutional county level with respect to law enforcement? Is it just as simple of a matter as caring about the documents? Well, it’s happened. There’s been a piecemeal thing about several of those issues. One of it is the lack of proper training in law enforcement community nationwide and looking at too many TV shows and movies about law enforcement. So why do. Why did I want to become a cop? When I first became a cop, I wanted an exciting career like Clint Eastwood and, you know, all this.

And it’s really not very exciting sometimes. In fact, a lot of times it’s downright boring. And I’m glad it is. I’m glad it’s peaceful. I’m glad we don’t have anything to do a lot of the times. But at the same time, the training and the mentality has been a victim of brainwashing. And most cops, most sheriffs just think we’re here to kick indoors and go after drug dealers, go to family fights and try to make a safe community which is part of the job. A lot of that’s part of the job. And too many of them think we’re here to be revenue agents and try to bring in money like we can with the stupid traffic citations.

And traffic citations are abuse. They have very little to do with public safety and a lot to do with bringing in $9 billion a year. And so I opposed anything that was contrary to the Constitution. And the police and the sheriffs of this country have never been properly trained in the oath of office. That they take or our position in protecting our God given republic. And until we learn that and, and even learn that we’re not a democracy, if we don’t know even the form of government we have, how are we going to protect and defend the government that we’re a part of? Furthermore, on that, and I’ll close with this.

How do we as protectors and conservators of the peace? And in one constitution it says that the first constitution, the first state constitution, Delaware calls the sheriff the conservator of the peace in every county. If we don’t, if, if we don’t know what the rights of the people are, how are we going to be the conservator of the peace and the protector of the people and adhere to our constitutional oath of office and protecting the rights of the people if we don’t know what their rights are, that’s an impossibility. And so now I formed the CSP Way so that we would learn, everybody in law enforcement nationwide would learn what the rights of the people are so that we can be a true defender of those rights.

Fantastic. And well said. So my next question then is going to pivot right off of that. The rights of the people. You know, peacemaker Aldo, you are an individual that is now pretty well known in the digital space over the last 12 to 18 months for interceding on exactly that issue. You’ve attempted to peacefully and lawfully protest. You’ve attempted to assemble the people, you’ve certainly stood up to the tyranny and attempted to address a number of different public bodies which by constitutional right we should have access to. For those out there that are just now meeting you for the first time, can you give us a quick summary of your own experience? And then I want to pivot into this issue of Grand Ju.

Sure. Let me start by saying I concur with everything Sheriff Mack says and I personally thank him. And I think every American owes him a thanks because it’s bravery of men like Sheriff Mack that allows America the concept, the land of the free, the home of the brave, the world social experiment, self governance. On this scale, before America came along, the only self governance models that worked were tribal. We took it to a next level and it, it takes a clarity of the thinking like Sheriff Mack and, and he’s due much respect from the country and we’re going to try to make sure that he, he sees that.

But let, let me give you some background. I’m Harvard educated. I am the outsider. But like Sheriff Mack, I have a very strong vein for the Lord and for justice. And I believe, believe that our destiny is binary. And in this reality I choose the book of life and any sane soul would choose the same. And that requires justice for all on that path and that journey. And that’s where I believe where we’re all headed and what our destiny is. So here we are now in this reality where, as Sheriff Mack has pointed out, most sheriffs don’t understand their job.

A lot of them, and this is intentional, they’ve been neutered. I call them administrative sheriffs, not constitutional sheriffs. They think their job is doing whatever the judges tell them they’re not. Their boss is the people and the Constitution. They’re supposed to be the protectors of the people and the enforcers of that constitutional contract. Unfortunately, by design and Starting heavily after 1946, right after World War II, the Supreme Court of the United States threw We the People under the bus and changed the federal procedures of criminal processing and required we the People to take our complaints not to our grand jury, but to a prosecutor, a bar member.

That hijacked we the People’s sovereignty. This was a big issue in the Williams 92 ruling. It’s what’s coming back as the people understand it, because our reality is askew. The courts were supposed to be the umpires in the ball game of life and instead they’ve hijacked the whole league. People are upset. Even little children will show in their behaviors when they realize a game is rigged. They don’t want to play. Now our Declaration of Independence says when we get to this point, we have a right to change matters. We don’t really need to change matters. We need to renew them.

The spirit of evil in the battle here wants a civil war, but it’s not going to get it because everybody loses when neighbor shoots neighbor and nobody wins. But we have a path and a way to do it. It’s through the process of unity. And there are two websites and movements that are forming. RestoreGrandjuryRights.org is one of them. There’s a very simple formula on that site for citizens to go to, fill out a five page document, collect signatures, start your county grand jury oversight committee. And peacemakersheriff.org is a movement and my campaign. There are peacemaker sheriff and peacemaker deputy oaths there.

I encourage your listeners to go look at them, print them out and get your sheriff to agree to sign it. And if you won’t get a peacemaker sheriff, because the sheriff needs a grand jury and the grand jury needs a sheriff. We have that. We the people have our life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness back. And we’re back on our path to our destiny. Fantastic. So, and that leads me actually to another question that came off of that line of discussion that you just had there, Aldo, and thank you for the recap and the overview there.

But you said the 1946 decision coming out of the Supreme Court, I want to spend just a minute or two dwelling on that because that’s a really significant milestone in this process when we’re talking about having judicial accountability and equal blind justice under the law. Prior, and let me make sure I understand this correctly for the audience, prior to that decision, it was standard custom procedure to take a criminal complaint that had been, you know, affidavit and postulated and declared by someone in a community to that community’s grand jury directly and provide their evidence directly to that grand jury body.

And then that grand jury body would make the decision whether or not to impanel an indictment apparatus to include perhaps a public defender, a public prosecutor, things of that nature. After the fact, after the Supreme Court decision, that process became inverted and the prosecutorial office essentially stood in for what the citizens complaint gateway should have been. Am I characterizing that correctly? Yes, sir. And it’s important to point out, you know, a couple things. The prosecutors are all bar members. So in effect it put the bar in control of the absolute authority. And Richard Mack would agree with this.

When a grand jury, there’s grand juries in every county and then there’s a federal grand jury system. When a grand jury, which is a group of citizens that are Surrey jurists, come together or they’re brought together and when they reach unity in Virginia, that’s four or more in agreement, they have absolute authority, they can indict any wrongdoer. That even includes the elected sheriff, a judge, everybody, they sit over everybody. And that is the feedback loop for accountability in our governance system which has been broken. You know, we go to the polls and we vote, but not a lot changes because we’re in a uni party reality where our government in general is really not accountable to we the people anymore because the authority that we would exercise that over them, the grand jury indictments process has been taken away and it was done with intent.

And there are some allegations that involve three letter agencies. The CIA was formally formed in 1947, even though it existed before that. So there’s a lot that’s being uncovered here for the public. And there are people out there that say what the supreme court did in 1946 when they changed those federal criminal procedures was really a violation. It was a constitutional change. It was a constitutional violation. So there’s a lot swirling around. It’s been covered up for 80 years. It’s coming out. But what’s important is that we focus on what can we do about it. And there is a lawful, peaceful, expedient path to overcome this problem.

Let’s not dwell in the past and what was broken. We need to understand it. But what do we do from this moment going forward to change it? Those two solutions sitting on restore grand jury rights.org and peacemakersherif.org fantastic. I probably need to add something there. SG I need to, I need to add something there. Of course. Is that all right? Okay. First, Aldo was correct on the things he was saying, but I don’t think he expressed the problem as it really exists now with grand juries that are controlled by the prosecutor. What has happened is that the prosecutor completely dominates it from one side and the accused or the person being talked about in the grand jury hearing is not even allowed to attend or present any evidence.

So it is so bastardized, it is so un American, it is so outside our legal system that a prosecutor who wants to build a name for him or herself and start their political career to be an ag or whatever else they want to run for, senators, whatever, doesn’t matter. They are literally using that on the backs of the accused and they are doing a completely one sided, lopsided indictment process where the grand jury never even gets to hear anything from the accused. And so this is why, and I can’t remember his name. It doesn’t really matter what his name is, but name.

You’re looking for the, the, the Chief justice of New York State Supreme Court. Yes. Is that who you’re saying? Saul Walker, 1985 sandwich. Yeah. He, he, he said in America today you can indict a ham sandwich. And why he used the ham sandwich thing, I don’t know, but he did. And that’s exactly what’s going on. And then these poor schmucks that get indicted don’t have the money or the courage to not accept a plea bargain even though they’re innocent completely. And I’ve seen this numerous times. And they said, well, we’re going to give you 50 years in prison or we’ll give you a plea bargain for five.

And so who’s, you know, most people take that. And so innocent people are going to prison and innocent people are being indicted. And because these corrupt, very, very Corrupt prosecutors don’t give a damn and the judges don’t do anything about that and the politicians don’t do anything about it. And that’s the first thing that has got to have attention from the sheriff and local officials. And, and so we still, look, we still have so much to educate the sheriffs about and we’re still just really tied up in that they’re going to protect freedom of speech and freedom of religion and the right to peaceably assemble and the right to, of the people to keep and bear arms because all of those are under attack.

And then now we’ve got to, you know, veer off to a little, a little bit and say, but don’t forget the grand juries, because those are completely bastardized and you’re destroying justice and you’re allowing that to be destroyed right in front of you. And so there’s so much to do here. But anyway, I wanted everybody to know and understand how absolutely corrupt the, the indictment and grand jury process has become because of this. Well, SG if I could build on that for a second. And what Sheriff Mack is saying is right, that the grand jury is really the cornerstone of the system because it, it can deal with all of our other issues, whether it’s freedom of speech or you name it, that grand jury is going to have authority over it.

And Richard Mack is getting to is the system knows about this problem. That’s what the chief justice indicated in 85, and they’ve done nothing about it. And the 1992 Williams ruling by Scalia further enlightened all this and still nothing’s happened. And it’s been now almost 80 years since the 1946 changes. But the system knows this. They did this intentionally because they use the grand jury to falsely indict people that oppose them. Or if you have legitimate claims of corruption in government or the judiciary, they block you. So it’s, in a sense, it has become the gate for the praetorian guard, for evil in our system.

And it’s crossed all sorts of boundaries. It’s not just in the judiciary and in the justice system. Bad actors in every other aspect of our society know that what they can get away with. And it the corner it keeps coming back to the grand jury. And the sheriff’s authority needs to go hand in hand with it because a grand jury with a corrupted or a broken or an administrative sheriff is going to fail. A sheriff who understands the power of the grand jury but doesn’t have grand jury oversight to help him, he’s going to fail as well, because the corrupt judiciary still has control of that broken grand jury.

So there’s an interesting opportunity and a dynamic going on that we’re now starting to understand and educate people, but educate them in a manner that they can do something about it. Because as we said earlier, General Flynn said, local action equals national impact. But people need a method, a path. They need leadership. And it needs to be lawful and peaceful and coordinated. And that’s what has been built and put together@restoregrandjerryrights.org and the PeaceMakerSheriff.org websites. And I don’t mean to sound like a broken record, but I want your viewers to walk away with this with the tools.

As we heard the other day from the Westmoreland county people, they feel empowered because they feel like now they have a tool to overcome the corruption that has just ignored them for generations. Very well put, Scott. You’ve been in the background the entire time as we volley back and forth and discussed a lot of different subjects. I think a diverse arrange a diverse range. So far, you know, you’ve called Sovereign Radio Sovereign Radio for a particular reason. I think it sort of goes without saying that the inspiration towards liberty, self determination, the right to life, et cetera, comes out of that.

What do you make of this broader discussion between grand juries and the county sheriffs who are supposed to be really the agents of the people at the end of the day? Well, you’re spot on. Sovereign Radio was born out of a group of radio stations in Texas that I was doing business with. And as you know, after 40 years of doing business in the belly of the beast of mainstream media, Hollywood, in the music industry, I wanted to blow the whistle and when it came to the name of the show, immediately came up with the name sovereignty and the importance.

There was Sheriff Mack and the cspoa. You can’t have sovereignty without the Constitution in the constitutional Sheriff’s organization, the CSPOA. I felt after 30 minutes of meeting Sheriff Mack and talking to him, which by the way, was nine months after I started Sovereign Radio, I met Sheriff Mack on the Arise tour. Rest in peace, Robert David Steele. Sheriff Mack and I traveled together and I realized that sovereignty can only come with organizations like the cspoa, training sheriff’s, the mo, the most important man in the county, the only elected, most important law enforcement official. The legal and judicial systems you guys have already outlined, corrupt to the core.

And so is every system. The financial system, the education system, the political system, they’re all corrupt to the core. And without these mechanisms, honest to goodness grand juries and honest to goodness, Constitutional sheriff says we can’t have our sovereignty back. We are never going to get it back. So when I met Sheriff Mack, I said, this is an organization and a guy that Sovereign Radio is going to get behind. And we continue to stand behind the cspoa. As you know, you’ve joined the Sovereign Radio team. We’re big supporters because at a local level, as Aldo pointed out General Flynn’s statement, local action equals national impact.

At a local level, no matter how good a job President Trump is doing at a national and on the global stage, Team Trump and the Trump administration is not coming to the local level. No way are they coming to 3,000 counties and taking our counties back. That’s up to we the people. And how are we going to do it? It’s through solutions like the CSPOA and Constitutional sheriffs and turning this legal and judicial system that’s corrupt to the core around, which might mean getting rid of the system we have now completely. And that starts with the Constitution.

So what better place to start than the sheriff himself? The, the most powerful man in the county is the sheriff, not the most powerful man in the county or woman. Sheriff Mack, is that a correct statement? If you believe Thomas Jefferson, he said that the sheriff is the top executive of the county. So yes, he is. And he, he wields a lot of authority. He has a lot of power. But because he gets it, as you alluded to, Scotty, he gets his power directly from the people and that’s why he is so powerful. And yes, he’s their servant and he’s appointed by them.

And it’s absolutely the most powerful decision position. And in my Supreme Court case, Scalia actually calls the sheriff the Cleo, the chief law enforcement officer. And he is. I saw the federal government recognize the power of a sheriff. Maybe you told me the story. A rancher, a landowner, got a letter from the federal government, the Land Bureau, Bureau of Land Management, I think it was. It was a federal agency sent him a letter that they were going to acquire eminent use, eminent domain to acquire his property. Well, he took the letter to the sheriff in his county.

The sheriff sent the federal agency a letter that said, you said, put in my county to take this man’s land. The only place you’re going to see is the inside of my jail. They dropped the case and they never responded back. And they left this rancher alone. There you have the federal government and a federal agency acknowledging the true power of a sheriff as being able to stand his Ground. And again, it takes a constitutionally motivated, driven, trained sheriff to do that. I venture to guess 80% of our sheriffs don’t even know the Constitution. Couldn’t tell you recite it, or parts of it even.

And they’re operating as administrators, as paper pushers, and in many cases, abusing their power. Dare I say that bribery and blackmail are the tools of the deep state. And how many of these sheriffs have been bribed or blackmailed, Sheriff Mack, would you suspect? Yeah, I. I don’t know. The. The first problem is what you said earlier. 80% of them don’t even know about the Constitution. So out of ignorance or arrogance, they ignore the Constitution, they ignore the principles of liberty, and. And all of this. So I’d like to go back to Aldo a little bit here.

This. This whole thing. So we’re talking about the grand juries. So what’s the process that we put grand juries back in charge? And if it doesn’t follow the KISS philosophy, I’m afraid it’s going to be extremely difficult to achieve. So it’s got to be simple. Simple enough to where the sheriffs and other public officials get behind it. And what I’m afraid is that it’s too complicated and complex and they’re just going to go, nothing’s wrong with way it’s going, even though obviously there is. That’s the part I’ve been arrested in, because we’ve got to. All these principles we’ve been talking about, they sound great, but how, when we face reality, do we actually get the change to take place? And that’s my biggest concern.

Sg Do I have your permission to answer? Absolutely, please. Sure. It’s your show. I just want to make sure you’re still steering the ship here. Sheriff Mack, that’s a very valid, good question. I’m in the process of demonstrating that process for America in Virginia Beach. But I’ve also set up the means for others to start that process as well. And you’re right. You know, one of the things that I remember from a discussion you and I had earlier, it’s like, gosh, you know, talk to people. Most people don’t even know what a grand jury is. Then when you tell them what it is, you explain its power, and they go, well, how does it operate? And I even had somebody the other day, I was like, well, well, how are we going to act like a prosecutor? We don’t know what to do.

And I said, you’re not. I said, it’s real simple. There’s a five page form on the restoregrandjuryrights.org website, go fill it out for your county, go collect the signatures. And on that form of instructions on what to do. And you as citizens are gonna start your grand jury oversight committee. And with that, you’re gonna be in communicating and dealing with your sheriff and calling him out. Because all the sheriffs that are out there are administrative. They don’t do anything with the grand jury other than provide a deputy in the room as bailiff. That’s all they want to do because they were trained.

They were told, get out of the way. We’re the bar, we’re in charge. 1946, we’re in charge. Get out of the way. And you know, most sheriffs haven’t gone to law school. And Jefferson cautioned us about tyranny complicating matters so that the average citizen got wrapped up in the corruption and that we needed to keep matters simple and local, at the local level. And so the new model, it’s really simple. Sheriff Mack, it’s the old model renewed. We don’t need to rebuild what already works. We just need to take out the intentional piece that was disrupting it.

And that is the people’s oversight. And they go, all right, Walter, what does that look like? Let’s just say this works in Virginia beach and you make all this happen. What does it look like? Well, this committee is controlled by the citizens. They can use Roberts rules to make their own procedures and decisions and processes. And this applies in all the counties across America. And they have basically four primary functions. Number one, make sure that grand jury is picked independently. In Virginia right now, there’s a code that says every year the chief judge in each county supplies a list of 60 to 120 names to the clerk of the court for the citizens that are going to serve on the grand jury for the year and the clerk of the courts to provide the name to the sheriff to summons them under the common law.

The sheriff organized all that. Okay. Under the current system, the judges are picking the grand jurors and it’s a problem because it makes them beholden and it starts the influence process. So number one thing that the grand jury oversight committee will do is, is make sure that that grand jury is independently picked so it’s not unduly beholden to the judiciary or anybody else other than the community. Number two, the grand jury is not it’s gate kept meaning that thing in 1946 where they said, oh, you got to take your complaint to the prosecutor. The prosecutor now Decides what does and what doesn’t go in front of the grand jury.

That’s got to stop. So on the websites in Gloucester County, Virginia is doing this already. You can go to their grand jury website on the restoregrandjuryrights.org page and you’ll see there’s a complaint submission form. And their grand jury oversight committee’s already got eight very serious complaints from their community of people who have been hiding because they’ve been afraid of retribution involving gang related, drug related murders that were called suicides and not properly investigated. You know, felony theft of property with admissions from gang members and no prosecution. Malicious prosecution of a silly string incident. Stealing of farmers, generational lands with no path to justice.

So the second thing this grand jury oversight committee does is it collects, it serves as the gatekeeper for the community in an unbiased manner. And then the third thing it does is it makes sure that grand jury is fully informed of its duties and its powers. And this gets back to what Sheriff Mack said earlier. When the prosecutors control what the grand jury’s told, they exclude exculpatory evidence. They manipulate terribly for the benefit of the bar and the system. And that’s got to stop. And the citizens Grand Jury Oversight Committee will stop that. And the last, the fourth thing that this oversight committee is going to do is make sure that grand jury has resources to complete its duty.

Meaning the grand jury can designate itself special and start investigating. It can tell the sheriff to hey, go bring this joker in here, we want to ask him some questions. Or go get these documents so we can verify what this person is saying and then make our decision on indictment. So very simply, what the oversight committee is going to do is it’s going to bring to bear these duties to just watch the process. The prosecutor will still be there, but he’s going to have citizens looking over his shoulder, make sure he’s doing what he’s doing in the interest of the community.

You say, okay, Aldo, that’s great. What’s out there to help train these citizens? There’s all kinds of resources. On the resource page at the restoregrandjuryrights.org website, there is a grand jury administrator certification class that’s put on my one group. There’s a lot of stuff that’s out there. We’re not building anything new. We’re just fixing what was there to get it back to doing what it’s supposed to do. We can do it. Just remember something, we the people do everything in this country from the simplest things of picking up the trash and digging ditches to the most complex, designing rocket ships for Elon Musk and the government and doing all kinds of stuff in between.

So we the people can handle our own grand jury if we’re properly led and informed. And we’re taken out of this trance because Sheriff Mack said earlier he ran into this. Some people have been trained to say, ah, don’t fight city hall. You know, that’s somebody else’s problem. People have to stop that attitude. They have to take responsibility. And accountability starts in the mirror. You look in the mirror and decide whether you’re going to accept the servitude and the slavery that you’ve been born under or you’re going to say no. From this moment forward, I’m going to let my actions speak of my faith and I’m going to do what’s necessary.

There’s a phrase out there that says all evil needs is for good people to do nothing. In the modern times, all evil needs is for people to be distracted doing the wrong things. Edmund Burke, very well said. Go ahead, Scotty. Yeah, I think the importance of these conversations of grand juries, because you’re not hearing these discussions in the mainstream media and you don’t hear them much even in the. In the truth or media. But there’s another subject I want to address because it comes hand in hand. I think Curtis Lee was running for mayor of New York City.

The man started the Guardian Angels way back when and formed a true posse of using constitutional rights and peaceful gathering of a posse. And I want to ask Sheriff Macana Aldo, where does that fit in when a sheriff can form a posse, deputize men in areas of human trafficking and pedophilia, Isn’t posse and the grand jury the tools to taking these nefarious organizations down? Well, I hope so. And yes, sheriffs conform posses. And that just means people are helping him. And he can order, he can order people to be part of his posse. Just like the old western movies.

When you see the sheriff said, come on, man, get your guns, get your horse, make sure you have a bedroll. We’re going after them. And the people knew they had to be part part of that. And so it still applies today. Absolutely. And the bottom line, Aldo’s correct. We the people are in charge of our government. And. And we are the final say. We are the final say. And so I still wondered about a little bit of the process that Aldo was talking about. But I also want to warn people, there are people out there pushing grand juries or common Law grand juries or citizen grand juries that absolutely have no basis in law.

And so you got to be careful which ones you look at. All those makes the most sense to me, but I still think it’s a little bit more complex than he brought out. And that is he talked about petitions and, you know, getting your county to understand that this process is here and that the people are in charge still, still is going to be a huge mountain to jump over. And I, I, you know, look, I’m in favor of any and all lawful, peaceful, and effective solutions. That’s why I love the CSPOA and that we get this.

But I hope what this Washington State conference that we’re having that I need to raise money for, we want this presentation about citizen grand juries to be in front of our sheriff there. And the state of Washington is destroying the office of sheriff more than any other state. They’ve already got a bunch of bureaucrats to say, we don’t want the sheriff to be elected in King county, the largest county in Washington state. That’s where the cat. That’s where Olympia is, the capitol. And so they’re suing sheriffs there and stopping and trying to arrest sheriffs who are merely helping with deportation, trying to get this criminal element out of their counties that the Biden administration committed.

Yeah, the crime that they committed to make this happen. And so we want to go into the belly of the beast and have our conference. Our three or four, maybe five of our biggest donors, really, when we’re having these each year, have all dropped out and abandoned us. So we don’t have the money to pull this off. We want to get about 50 sheriffs from all over the country to attend where we see some solidarity, we see some unity, and, and we want to present this citizen grand jury to the sheriffs that are there as we’re talking.

Also, mostly what we’ve been talking about today, that the sheriffs report only to the people. And so we want to get that message to the, to the ag, who’s. Who’s going after these sheriffs, to the state legislature, to the governor, and to the people of America that are being torn by this in Washington state. But right now, we can’t do it. We don’t have the money. And, and it just. I’m praying every day for that. But, folks, we need your help. And, and we’ve got to raise that money right away or this whole thing is going to just go.

Kapoor. Well, that’s why I wanted to jump in. I was just going to Say, one of the ways we can help Sheriff Mac and Sovereign Radio is helping is by joining the posse@the cspoa.org and that entails a small monthly donor. Small monthly contribution. Right, Sheriff Mack to join the posse whopping 11amonth. Yeah. And that, that goes a long way if we can get hundreds and thousands of more posse members to be informed, stay abreast of what the CSPOA is doing and even get involved in your county. So I would encourage everybody to go to the cspoa.org and join the posse, pay that $11 a month and get your own education.

He’s got a lot of free materials. You have pamphlets and booklets and all kinds of stuff. Sheriff MACK Right, we do. And a copy of the Supreme Court case. And that’s right here, folks. And this is, this is the cheapest book you can probably find with such a tremendous miraculous message. The most important Supreme Court case in the history of our country regarding law enforcement, Sheriffs and the 10th Amendment. Here it is. I put it together after the case came out. I put all the highlights in this little booklet. The best parts of the, of the decision.

And every one of you can order. They’re $3 each, but you can get three for five and bulk orders. And you can pass these around. Make sure your sheriff gets one. Make sure your city council gets one, your county commissioners, your county attorney and anybody else. Activists, state reps and folks. Getting this message out is exactly what we the people are supposed to be doing. So, yes, join us at cspoa. Become a member of our posse, make a donation for our conference or and do both. Become a member of the CSPUA posse so we can train you how to be part of your sheriff’s posse and how to work with him.

To do what? Take back America, one county at a time. And we’re having tremendous success right now with constitutional counties. And in Florida, Collier county has already become one and others are lining up to do it. And Indian river county is now becoming one. And that again, that’s Florida. So we’re getting the, the, we’re getting some traction, folks. And this is when we need to really get busy the most because things are starting to move. Let’s make sure they quadruple. Let’s not double down, let’s quadruple down. And let’s really get after this because there is a peaceful and effective solution for taking our country back, and that’s restoring the Constitution, county by county, building a momentum for a brighter future.

That’s going to lead me to My last question, this question for all of you gentlemen, in no particular order, but it sounds to me like based on the call that we’ve had today, the solution is really going to be a hand in hand type of thing, regardless of the form it ultimately takes. We the people have to once again be in control of our grand juries. There’s no doubt about that. But it has to lawfully and constitutionally be done in accordance with balancing power between the sheriff, who himself is an elected law enforcement officer and who should have influence in that process.

So hypothesizing for a moment that we balance that over these coming years or however long it happens to take, what is the reasonable expectation for restoring America to its constitutional foundation walking hand in hand. We’ll start that question over with peacemaker Aldo first. Well, as everybody’s alluded to, there’s a lot that’s changing. And by the way, I, I pay Sheriff Mack $100 a year to be a member of the posse. And our site has links to the materials that he was showing you. He’s part of our resource page. So thank you for that. But yeah, it’s happening and, and it’s, it’s our part of our destiny, our reality.

Justice for all is biblical. It’s part of the path to the book of life. It’s going to happen. Past efforts to impanel separate common law grand juries have failed and they fail for a number of reasons. There is a grand jury that meets at our, at our current county courthouses, but it’s been manipulated by the current, if you will, incumbent wrongdoers and you got to take that away from them. And the restoregrandjuryrights.org movement does exactly that. It’s a very simple couple page form on the website. You can fill out for free and you can use it.

It’s a tool. It’s going on now. And we just picked up two states SG this week based on your last interview, Iowa and Ohio. So we’ve got it now going on, I think in 10 states. And so it’s growing and people need to be aware, but there is a lot for them to learn. But it’s very doable. We the people do everything and we can do this. And it’s just a matter of sorting through and focusing on the right things and maybe putting aside some other activities for a time because we need to get the grand jury and the sheriff’s authority aligned back up for us to get back to what America truly is, which is the light upon the hill, the Beacon of hope and a land where justice for all isn’t just an idea, but it’s a reality.

And I think for all of us, we have generationally grown up in this distorted, manipulated reality. We really don’t know what that feels like. I think there are some brave souls out there like Sheriff Mack and some others that fight for that. I consider myself a fighter as well. And I’m looking forward to the day where truth is normalized and it matters and life, liberty and happiness. Happiness is something where we have evident from abundant prosperity. Because right now, if you look across our economy, you know, in some metrics it looks like it’s doing well, but it’s very jagged and very disproportionate.

And that’s a problem. History has said when there’s too much disparity, things are. There’s a lot of social corrections and that’s what’s all coming. And I think it’s a good thing. The entrepreneur in me sees a lot of opportunity. The person of faith knows who’s sovereign in this reality and knows that our destiny is the book of life and that, you know, as for Revelation 20, you know, it’s not an end time story, it’s an end of our subjugation to the spirit of deception. And I think that’s where we’re at. I think the grand jury, through the citizens actions and the sheriffs waking up and understanding what their role is and who their real boss is, that’s where the rubber meets the road and the change that’s coming.

Fantastic. I’ll turn the question over to Sheriff Mack and just to reframe it really quickly. We’re looking at the expectation here into the future. What is the balance and what is the reasonable expectation for restoring the republic? Well, I really think a constitutional sheriff could do all this and make it all happen. What Aldo’s saying, if the sheriff took this bull by the horn and he’s really keeping his oath of office, he would not be allowing this ham sandwich indictment stuff. Corruption coming from county attorneys and prosecutors, but the overall process again of getting the grand jury restored, I believe the sheriff could do that.

We still are very lacking in our education to sheriffs. Even though I’ve been doing it every day for the past 25 years, it’s not enough. I mean, I’ll be doing five sheriffs here and 10 sheriffs there and seven sheriffs there. And we have a conference, we have 50 or 70 sheriffs show up. There’s 3,100 sheriffs in America and there’s turnover every year. And so we’re. Some of that is speeding our wheels because the sheriffs that we’ve trained yesterday are gone tomorrow. And so we really, really need funding and we need just more help and more workers and we need more people on our posse.

The American people have got to be part of this process. Jefferson warned us that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. We’re losing our liberty because the American people have not been vigilant. We fell asleep and it’s time to wake up. We’ve got to be a part of the peaceful and effective solutions. And right now the Democrats and Republicans aren’t providing those solutions and we are. And we the people have got to be a part of this. And that’s why I formed the cspoa. It was for the people. Yes, your, your most important public servant in your county is a huge component of this.

And we’ve got to have the sheriffs involved. And I and my wife and I have dedicated our lives to this. We’re asking you to be a part of that. And, and look what, look what the founder said to each other. For the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor, folks. We must do the same today. Very well said. This broadcast will air in conjunction with Sovereign Radio on Kunis Patriot as well as it’ll air on CUNY’s Patriot in conjunction with Sovereign Radio is what I’m trying to say there.

So it seems only fair to give you Scotty, the final thoughts on this broadcast. Well, thank you sj. I appreciate it. The reasonable expectation to taking back a republic. It’s a republic, if we can keep it is activate. You’ve got to get involved at a local level. You got to be an activist. You’ve got to get involved in organizations like Aldos, like Sheriff Max. Whether it’s grand jury involvement or involved in the cspoa, we have to take our school boards back. Nobody wants to see the continuation of drag Queen story hour in our first graders class.

Nobody wants to see these corrupt judicial grand jury, the whole legal system. And it’s going to take constitutional sheriff and grand juries to get there. And the only way we the people get there is to activate. So if you’re listening or watching the on the clock with Sgnon or Sovereign Radio, you have to look in the mirror, you have to look at yourself and get activated yourself. You can’t turn to somebody else and say it’s your problem not mine. It’s we the people and I think activation at the local level. We can all do something at a local level.

We can find something we’re interested in at a local level even if it’s coaching kids at a sports team and keeping them on the right track. So sg, my final word is activate. If you are listening or watching this you need to get involved in something at a local level. Wise words indeed. Thank you all for being here on today’s episode of on the Clock with SG and on for the audience out there. As a reminder, this show is made possible by body align. You can navigate to bodyalign.com sgotc if you’d like to learn a little bit bit more about that partnership.

It’s been excellent to host each of you. This is Sgnon. I’ll be back with each and every one of you again soon on the Q Patriot Rumble and on Sovereign Radio. God bless everyone. Stay safe today. Thanks. Bye bye.
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