(11/24/2025) | On-The-Clock With SGAnon | Ep7: Sheriff Mack on Lesser Known Powers of the Sheriff

➡ In this episode of “On the Clock with SGN”, Sheriff Richard Mack discusses his skepticism about the Epstein case, suggesting that there may have been foul play involved. He also shares his experiences as a sheriff and his belief in the importance of local law enforcement. The show also includes a promotion for Body Align, a company that offers pain relief patches.
➡ The speaker discusses the suspicious circumstances surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s death, suggesting it may have been murder rather than suicide. They also express concern about the quality of the investigation into his death. The speaker then discusses the importance of sheriffs in the justice system, highlighting their role in protecting the rights of individuals and opposing unjust laws. They end by expressing their belief that innocent people are being unjustly imprisoned in the United States and call for an end to corruption and violence.
➡ In a constitutional republic, the people are in charge and choose their representatives, including the sheriff who doesn’t answer to the county commission but to the people. The sheriff can call out a posse to help in emergencies, like floods, instead of relying on FEMA. The system of grand juries, which should be an investigative tool, has been corrupted by prosecutors, making it difficult for the accused to present evidence. The sheriff used to be in charge of empaneling a grand jury, but this hasn’t been the case for over 100 years, and reforming this system is a challenge.
➡ The sheriff should ensure that the accused in a case can face their accuser during the grand jury process. This is a crucial part of maintaining civil rights and upholding the Constitution. If prosecutors don’t allow this, they should be removed from office. Sheriffs need to be educated about this issue, as many are unaware or choose to ignore it.

Foreign patriots. And welcome to episode seven of on the Clock with SGN on a show made possible through a partnership between Q News, Patriot and Sovereign Radio today. The show is joined today by Sheriff Richard Mack from the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers association for a breakdown on some recent maneuvers coming with President Trump and some examination of the sheriff’s office itself. As, as always, the show is sponsored today by Body Aligned. You can check out body align devices@bodyaligned.com SGOTC if you’d like to learn a little bit more. Sheriff Mack, thank you so much for joining me again today.

How are things going? Well, they’re going fantastic. And I want to reinforce what you said just now, Body Align. So they’re one of our corporate sponsors and I tell everybody I do not put anything on my website that I haven’t tried myself and tested and even more importantly, tested with my wife and family and my son, my oldest son’s a big skeptic. We put these pain relief patches on his neck and bam. I mean, his response was instantaneous. The help that it has given my wife with her arthritis and me with my lower back problems, and now I’m getting arthritis in my shoulder.

And I just took the patches off this morning that I had on for about five days. I know they, they lose their potency, but folks, this is an amazing product. Get yours at sg and I don’t care where you get them, make sure you get them because they work. I’ve tried all their products. That is their best product. I would have. I don’t know if the other products work because I’ve never felt the actual emf, but I have EMF products on my computer right now. I’ve got one on the left side, one on the right side.

So I trust them. So I put those off. Patches work, folks. So order yours today. So I thought I’m going to reinforce that. So. But yeah, okay. I don’t know. I don’t. I have not heard anyone else talk about this. So I’m kind of going to toot my own horn on, on, on this analysis. And first of all, it’s really funny and it’s brilliant. And like I told you before we came on the air, I think this is the most brilliant political move in the last 100 years. And in two years, I will have lived three quarters of a century.

So I’ll, I’ll be, I’ll be 73 next month. And this is the thing. First, as you well know, everybody knows this, this is obvious. The Democrats during the Biden Administration, especially year, year and a half, two years, but it was during the entire Biden administration. They wouldn’t touch the Epstein files or any of the information from that case. They wouldn’t touch it with a 700 foot pole. They didn’t want to release anything and they fought it tooth and nail. What has President Trump got them to do? Folks, you’ve been had by one of the smartest presidents in world history.

So he made it look like Pam Bondi was working for him to try to cover this all up and that got all the Democrats hot and bothered. Oh, man, we’ve got Trump now. I’ve actually heard them, some Democrats say that on some TV talk shows. They’ve actually said it. We’ve got Trump and this will bring down his presidency. He will not be president the full four years. Well, guess what, folks, you are wrong. He got you. He wanted to release these all along, but he didn’t have the votes until he snickered. All of you guys, oh my goodness.

So what has already been released, SG what has been released? All these prominent Democrats and President Trump was told all the Republicans, let’s do it, let’s get the files out there. Because he now he knew he had the votes because over half the Democrats were voting for it. That I’m telling you, this guy is the, he’s the king of troll. And you guys got had. And President Trump strikes again. He gets, he gets to use reverse psychology and actually take advantage of their Trump derangement syndrome and got them going to where they did it to themselves.

Man, this guy is brilliant. It took me a couple of days to really figure this out, but Trump did it and more power to him. You know, I think that’s an incredible point to sort of set the tone for the call today because at the end of the day, something like the Epstein situation, the fact that the Epstein files is even a conceptual thing that exists is because at many levels, it including at that local sheriff’s level, we saw some failures of law enforcement and some failures of good in the face of corruption over these last 40, 50 years or so.

And it’s really affected us a great deal right on up to the national level. All of these federal representatives go home to a state when they’re not in session. They live underneath the law of a particular area that they’re living in, whether that’s a California county or an Alaskan borough or an Arizonan county. And in that county, of course, is a sheriff’s department and a sheriff’s office that is supposed to Oversee and understand the, the nature of things happening in that area. I thought we would pivot if we could and talk a little bit about how some of those failures would affect something like the federal level and how something like the Epstein files can actually be generated starting right at the community sector.

Well, first of all, I used to run a jail. For eight years. I ran the Graham County Jail, and that was in the 90s. I haven’t been sheriff for about 28 years, but I love the eight years I was there. I spent 20 years in law enforcement. Eight of those years as the elected sheriff of Graham County, Arizona. That was my hometown and I absolutely loved it. I did not want to leave when I did, but I was voted out after I sued the federal government. I didn’t win until after the election. And most people in the small town have the small town mentality that they just didn’t want an activist sheriff that I should have been home taking care of business.

Well, I actually released my own personal journal and I kept a very strict journal while the entire time I was sheriff so that in case somebody came back on me, oh, he did this. Oh, he was at my home or whatever. I have documentation where I was every day. And so I, I was, I actually put that in the paper. But I lost my third election. And when I won the sheriff race, my wife said, this has been a miracle. Now we know why you were supposed to be sheriff. When I lost, she said the same thing.

Now we know that you’re supposed to move on to something else. And so since that time, I’ve written seven or eight books. I’ve traveled to every state I’ve. And I’ve done presentations in 48 states. The only ones that I lack are Vermont and Rhode island that I haven’t done a specific seminar or rally or speech of some sort. So I’ve got 48 states that Alaska was the last one. When I was sheriff, I had. And this is way back when technology, way before technology was like way superior to what it is now. If there was ever a time a camera went out, we had to make adjustments and initiate protocols, make sure that people in jail were not covered, that were covered by our security.

And so this takes a lot more work for the jailers. However, I will tell you, in eight years, our cameras never failed. Never, not one time. And this is old style cameras. So I want to know what happened and what safety protocols and security protocols were initiated when the cameras were off. Jeff Epstein when the cameras, they said, the jailers said the cameras went down. Not only that, where’s the footage of them investigating his death that would have been totally filmed and photographed? Where is the camera for that? Where is the video of that? And, and then there was like, what, two minutes that were deleted or messed up and not detectable, not viewable.

That would be impossible. So all of that’s made me very suspicious about the rumors that Epstein wasn’t really killed or that he didn’t commit suicide and that it was a murder. But regardless of that, something is wrong. And I want, I would love to see an investigation pursue that. And first of all, somebody that high profile, there’s no way you leave him in an insecure, unsecure location. And you wouldn’t just be checking on him every 15 minutes, which would be a normal protocol. You would be checking him on him every two minutes to make sure that this high profile inmate is being covered.

So I don’t believe any of it. I, I just, I, I don’t know if they, the, the two minute that lapsed is where they snuck him out of the prison or where he was drugged and carried out, or, you know, what on earth are the people there thinking? And, and the two jailers that got interviewed a little bit. Oh, and they were exonerated. Oh, you know, no problem. No, you need to have somebody in there that knows jails. And, and I’ve talked about this with other sheriffs and other people who rent prisons and jails. Nobody buys into that.

No one buys into it. And Epstein’s lawyer said he never was depressed. Look, Epstein already beat the system before. Why wouldn’t he do it again? And he’s got friends in high places. Of course they’re going to want to protect him. And so for him, this was just another bump in the road for him to flaunt the system. So I’m really, really suspicious about his death. If there was a death, and I don’t believe he committed suicide, if he indeed died, I believe it was murder. And there’s just too many things that missing out of this and a very shoddy investigation.

Things that an aware and present and prescient sheriff would have been able to potentially avert, certainly mitigate in some regards. And that actually brings me to my next question. If I’m not mistaken, if I, if my memory serves me correctly, and it has been a little while, I believe Jeffrey Epstein was imprisoned in a federal facility, but that facility was in the state of New York. And that particular state of New York has, you know, its version of, of a local county sheriff. And, you know, Constable sort of situation, what authorities or jurisdiction or avenues, if any, would be open to a local sheriff, perhaps now serving in that area, who has questions about the shoddiness of the investigation you just highlighted and perhaps wants to reopen it from the state and county level? Well, most sheriffs would be thinking, oh, I don’t have jurisdiction.

I beg to differ on that. Any crime committed in his jurisdiction, he should be following up with. It is, is there, is it okay to have a parallel investigation going on with the federal government? Why not? And is it automatically a federal jurisdictional issue because it’s a federal facility? I, I, I’m not aware that that automatically becomes an issue for the FBI. Why. And so if the sheriff showed up and said, look, I’m now following up on this, there’s just too much missing out of this and I’m going to follow up with an investigation of my own, who would be able to deny that? And, and not only that.

Has this happened before in America? Yes, it has. Do you remember the name of James Earl Ray? Supposedly the guy that killed or murdered Martin Luther King? Okay, so Martin Luther King was being watched, monitored, spied on. Everywhere he went. The FBI was spying on him. They even released some files that said he was having several affairs. And did they, Were they tell, was the FBI telling the truth about that? We don’t know. But we know the FBI was illegally monitoring a civil rights activist and a pastor. What was the probable cause for the FBI me monitoring this man? And I’ve never seen any.

Not only that, but sheriffs and other police departments and sheriff’s offices arrested Martin Luther King over 30 times. 30 times. And let’s see. Failure to disperse, disorderly conduct. What? Unlawful assembly. None of those, I mean, those are, those are bogus charges. That’s just what suspects get charged with when cops can’t think of anything else that’s legitimate. And from the Birmingham County Jail, Martin Luther King wrote a letter to, to everyone because he was really full of the, the spirit of freedom while his was lost and he haven’t. And I use this in my presentation all across the country.

He said that we all, I’m paraphrasing, this is, I don’t have a memorized, but I’ve got the point down pretty good. He said we all have a responsibility to obey just laws. We also, conversely, he said we also have a responsibility and a duty, a legal and moral duty to disobey unjust laws. And no peace officer in this country has a duty to enforce an unjust unconstitutional law. And so we use that a lot because it’s absolutely true. Could you imagine a sheriff or peace officer saying, oh yeah, we have to enforce all laws no matter how bad they are.

That’s the antithesis of the reason we take an oath to take of allegiance to the Constitution. We put liberty in America. We put liberty first. Individual liberty, civil rights, God given rights, those come first. And just because my sheriff is a racist and, and hates Martin Luther King and he tells me to go arrest him or go disperse this crowd and shoot people if I have to, I’m not going to do that. I’m not going to beat somebody and run over with my horse because my sheriff tells me to. Now I can do, I can verbally disobey the order and say I’m not going to and then maybe he’ll get arrested or I’ll just simply go there and do my duty and protect these people.

That is what we’re supposed to do. That is what every single person’s supposed to do. Rosa Parks was arrested by two deputy sheriffs, by two peace officers for not giving her seat to a white man. We oppose that kind of ignorant law enforcement and that we should learn from history, from Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, Martin Luther King and anyone else, Tina Peters, anyone else who has been unjustly convicted and put in prison as Tina Peters is right now. And I beg President Trump and Pam Bondi to do something who investigate the corruption that put this good woman, this American hero in prison.

She’s wasting away, she’s of poor health. There’s some people that think she’s dying, she should not be in there. And, and Ben Franklin said, I would rather a hundred guilty people go free than one innocent person go to prison. Well, I would, I absolutely echo that. I cannot stand or take at all that innocent people in the United States of America are in prison. Whether it’s 1 or 5,000 or 500,000, we have got to stop this. And this hate and violence being promoted by the Democrats has got to end. And we’ve got to be able to work together as public officials and Americans to prevent this sort of catastrophe and corruption happening within our own government.

Extremely well spoken and well said. And at the end of the day, it sort of galvanizes just how important it is to have once again a constitutional, duly elected and loyal to the Constitution sheriff in any jurisdiction across the United States, whatever the equivalent jurisdiction is across the various states. Because something like the Tina Peters fiasco, for example, would be much more difficult to pull off without any resistance at that state and local level. And I want to sort of pivot from that if I could. Our hearts go out to her as well and we wish her all of the best and continue to pray for her each and every day.

But I want to steer from there into some of these other duties that the sheriff has responsibility for in these communities at that local level as the first line. A lot of individuals are unaware that across most US state jurisdictions, in the event of a natural disaster at the community, at the community and county level, the sheriff’s deputies are typically the first reconnaissance eyeballs to get out onto the roads going oftentimes going out into the continuing and ongoing elements themselves just to report back what they’re seeing and make sure that everyone has a clear understanding for their early morning hours or their evening hours.

If something like this is happening overnight. When you were sheriff in Graham county, do you mind to walk us through any sort of unusual events or perhaps lesser known situations where you and the deputies were sort of the first line for the county with respect to awareness and knowing that there was a shifting of a condition? Well, that’s absolutely true. And, and, and look folks, Thomas Jefferson said this about the sheriff. Three signers of the Declaration of Independence were former sheriffs right here in America. The first cop, the first law enforcement officer in America was a sheriff.

The office of sheriff. The people who came here from Europe, our founding fathers, all knew about the office of sheriff and that he was the ultimate authority. He is the same today. He is the ultimate protectors of the people. He is the only law enforcement officer anywhere in the country who is elected. Every county, every parish elects a sheriff. Regrettably, Alaska and Hawaii don’t have sheriffs. There is no elected sheriff in either place. Of sheriff. Out of the state about 30 years ago, there’s only eight counties there, there were eight sheriffs. And they all supported the idea because they were bought off.

They were each offered, Wimped out, not understanding the significance of their role as the people’s protector. Now Connecticut only has the police state or the state police and local police. And there’s no one that answers directly to the people. That’s what’s significant about the office of sheriff. He is appointed by foreign of the people. His only supervisor and only boss are we the people in his county. And that’s what makes it so powerful. An example of what a constitutional republic is that the people are in charge and we choose our representatives. And that’s how it’s supposed to be.

If the chief of police is so necessary, he should be Elected. Also, instead of answering to the town manager or the city council, the sheriff does not answer to the county commission. He has to work out his budget with them. And that’s a lawful thing that he has to do with them. Other than that they can’t tell the sheriff what to do. Can they ask the sheriff why he did something? They can. Does the sheriff have to answer? No, but they need to work together. And, and there was times I did and times I didn’t because they were overstepping their boundaries.

And I said no. I said, I don’t answer to you. I answer to the people that appointed me here. And same as them, they’re elected too. The county attorney, Do I answer to him? In California, they said the sheriff’s answer to the attorney general of the state. That’s absolutely not true. They’re elected and they answer to the people who elect them. Period. And so the sheriff can call out a posy. And when I was sheriff, I had one. When Sheriff Arpaio was Maricopa county sheriff, the third or fourth largest, it went back and forth between the two largest sheriff’s office in the entire country.

And he had a 2,500 member posse and he used them during the holidays and they had their own patrol vehicles and they, he, they helped immensely. And we have floods in my area. You know, if you get over 2 inches of rain in Safford, Arizona, in the Gila Valley, you’re going to get floods. Yeah, just two inches in Florida, that’s not even a, a good sprinkling of the lawn. But in Arizona, two and a half inches, you’re going to have floods. And we did. And a bridge washed out. And who did we call out? Our deputies and citizens and the farmers that lived in the area and the ranchers, they all helped.

FEMA didn’t come in and fix anything. And that’s why I’ve told sheriffs over and over, look at the disasters that FEMA did during the Biden administration. You cannot count on the federal government to come and take care of you. Look at what they did during Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. Going door to door confiscating guns and boat to boat on boats that were on the water, taking guns away. Those guns were never returned and no receipts were given to the, the gun owners. So the, the sheriff has got to be prepared. And having a minute man available, a minuteman organization immediately available through the sheriff, known as a posse, is absolutely brilliant and it’s worthy of every sheriff’s office to organize such.

So yes, he’s in charge of natural disasters. He’s in charge of making sure people are safe, having neighborhoods go and check on elderly during such occasions. And the emergency is fires, whatever. The sheriff is in charge of that, not fema. Can he call FEMA and ask him for help? Sure. But we’ve learned through sad experience that FEMA sometimes doesn’t really help too much. Absolutely powerful indeed. And on that particular topic, and note, it sort of leads and sets up the very next question. Here we talk about failures of power, failures of corruption, failures of government. Some of those are incidental and may not have a redress immediately available to them.

Others are far more callous and reckless and careless, and they often can meet with civil penalties. But in order to arrive at such a point, there does have to be a judicial process. There does have to be an order here. We are a nation of laws. We are a nation of order. And so as we look at that process, that process ideally would include some type of impaneled grand jury or a citizens grand jury of some sort. Tell us a little bit how the sheriff intersects with the grand jury concept. And what does a grand jury truly do? Well, a grand jury is an investigative tool and they look at the evidence and look at the case of every aspect, and they determine if the suspect or the accused, if there’s enough evidence to hold them for trial.

And right now, the grand juries have been so bastardized by DAs and county attorneys, the prosecution, the prosecutors, that they have turned the entire system of America into on its head, it’s backwards. So the accused is not even allowed present evidence on his behalf at a grand jury. Did you know that they’re not even allowed. And my son was accused of a horrible, made up, fabricated crime about five, 10 years ago. He went to the jury, he would, he had his attorney go to the grand jury and say, we want to appear there. Why are you doing this without the suspect being allowed to be there and ask questions, just like the prosecutor does? And the prosecutor said no.

And of course he was indicted because only one side was given to the grand jury. And so there was. And I, I don’t remember his name, but there was a chief justice of the New York State supreme court back about 20, 30 years ago, maybe longer. And he said because of the corruption of prosecutors locally across this country, you, they can, or you can indict a ham sandwich. I’ve never heard the term ham sandwich used in legalese ever. But he did. You can indict a ham sandwich. Which just underscores the fact that grand juries have been so bastardized and made so corrupt as now a tool of the tyrant, a tool of the tyrant known as the county attorney or DA who are the prosecutors.

So they get their win loss records of indictment and arrests up so they can run for AG or, or governor or whatever else they want to run for. This is so corrupt and so criminal that now we’re in a position of trying to find a remedy. And so far I haven’t SG I haven’t seen a remedy that is palatable to county attorneys. How do we get the person who is using this as a corrupt tool to change it and do it honestly? And I’m all for changing that system, but I haven’t seen anything yet that really is something that sheriffs and go and say, oh yes, I, I’ll do that, I’ll do.

First of all, sheriffs, they say that some of these grand jury organizations across the country say that the sheriff is in charge of empaneling a grand jury. That hasn’t been the case for over 100 years. And the reason that it used to happen is because in the territorial days of America, the sheriff was the only elected law officer within 150, 100, 200 miles. And so he would get a jury of the people together, either for a grand jury or just to be the jury in any hearing. But yes, the jury is the ultimate say in any case, civil or criminal.

And that’s the significance of we the people are in charge. We the people are the final say in the American justice system. Except now we’re not when it comes to grand juries. And grand juries would be essential in prosecuting local corrupt people. How would you get a judge to sign off on that when they’re part of the corruption? How would you get a, a county attorney or DA to actually relinquish the authority and have the sheriff do it or have just the citizens do it. And, and that’s where I have a problem because it just doesn’t seem like we’re addressing the real problem here in making this where the sheriff will come forward and say, yes, I will help you get an independent grand jury impaneled, where they’re there all the time and we just, you know, have 50 people on the grand jury and then for a criminal grand jury hearing, have 16 of them ready, have 12 of them ready at a moment’s notice and get them in there.

But this system has been so corrupted that I don’t see how we’re going to get over that mountain of corruption and I’m all ears. I think that’s a really salient point. I want to drill down on that, actually, for a second. I wasn’t going to ask this question, but I just feel really compelled to. With respect to the denial of the accused being able to face his accuser, we know, of course, that that’s a constitutional guarantee. That’s a basic civil liberty going all the way back to the early days of the Republic. Nobody Amendment 6, by the way, so the Sixth Amendment, nobody’s going to be confused when they hear that or not be familiar with that to such a degree that it would qualify as ignorance.

And so in this question that I’m going to postulate is sort of a hypothetical scenario here, say for a moment that we did have that situation going on in a county of record inside one of the recognized states and will say, just for the continuity of this example, that that state has a constitutional guarantee of its own and its state constitution that the citizen should be allowed to face their accuser and be, you know, part of the jury process, is there anything that would obstruct or prevent, you know, with a reasonable level of destabilization, maybe, is the best way I’m saying it, or a reasonable level of disappointment? Is there anything that would obstruct a sheriff from.

From perhaps, you know, addressing his bailiffs or his deputies to say, hey, you know, this grand jury process is going on. We’ve been advised to be there at such and such a time for such and such a case. The accused is here in my office. You are to escort him into the courtroom so that he may face his accuser. Is that a process that is possible, or am I just daydreaming here? I like that, but I would make that if we were looking at the important things to happen with taking back grand juries, I would put that about a B or a C or a D, because A should be this one, and that is the sheriff discussing this problem with the prosecutors.

And he needs to let the prosecutors know in no uncertain terms that he’s not going to allow this to occur anymore. I’m not going to allow the accused to not face his accuser. And from now on, if you’re going to remain in charge of these grand juries, you must give notification to the accused and that they and their attorneys are allowed to be there. Why would it be otherwise, Mr. Prosecutor? Why would that be something that you’re promoting and hanging your hat on? That is illegal? It’s a violation of civil rights. It’s a Violation of the Constitution.

You should remove yourself from office if you’re going to continue to do this. But I am not going to sit still until you follow the law in the courts of this county. There’s your sheriff, there’s your sheriff involvement right now. And he can start working on this tomorrow or today. And so. CSPOA posse, where we actually take charge and start doing stuff like this. But this has not been a major issue with cspoa. Have we talked about this in some of our meetings? Yes, and I feel guilty because we, we, we’re so spread out and we’re so spread thin that we’re having.

Start getting this out to sheriffs. But most sheriffs don’t get this yet. And the training that we need for our chiefs of police and city councils and county commissioners and our sheriffs is still a vital part of this. You, you can’t do this out of ignorance. If you don’t know what you don’t know, how are you going to fix the problem? And most sheriffs, one don’t want to know. And most sheriffs just simply want to keep doing the job that they were brainwashed into believing is the job of the sheriff. Go after drug dealers, kick indoors and a lot of jurisdictions.

The sheriff is actually the tax collector for the county property taxes and the like. If they’re delinquent, he and I had an officer assigned to that. And it by law the sheriff is the tax collector. One of the things I hated most about the job. Incredible. Indeed. Sheriff Mack, thank you very much for joining us again today on the call. It’s always a pleasure to have you on for the audience out there. If you’d like to learn a little bit more or connect with the CSPOA posse, you can navigate to cspoa.org or check out the links in the description box below.

Today’s video. This is SG and on. I’ll be back with each and every one of you again soon on the CUNY’s Patriot Rumble channel. God bless everyone. Stay safe today. Thanks. Bye bye.
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