Summary
âž¡ The speaker discusses their concerns about the integrity of elections in Utah, claiming that there were inconsistencies in voter records. They also express frustration with the state’s handling of public lands and the impact on local industries. The speaker, a former county commissioner and current state representative, shares their experience of being arrested during a protest against the Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service. They call for more constitutional sheriffs to protect local interests against federal overreach.
âž¡ The speaker discusses the importance of the Constitution in protecting inherent rights and criticizes corrupt governments. They mention a case where they feel cheated, having won a convention but being forced into a primary. They express frustration with the Utah Supreme Court for dismissing their case and accuse the current governor of corruption. The speaker also promotes the Power Hour show and the Power Mall, which sells health and wellness products, and emphasizes the importance of supporting independent media.
âž¡ The speaker believes that Spencer Cox, a political candidate, did not gather enough valid signatures to qualify for the general election ballot. Despite this, Cox was still allowed on the ballot, which the speaker sees as unfair and corrupt. The speaker also claims that the media and other political figures are covering up this alleged corruption, causing confusion and misinformation among voters.
âž¡ The speaker criticizes the current governor for dishonesty and self-serving actions, suggesting he’s more interested in maintaining power than serving the people of Utah. The speaker also accuses the governor of manipulating elections and intimidating the GOP and legislature. They believe a majority of Utah residents are tired of this and that the governor can only win elections through dishonest means. The speaker is part of a powerful grassroots write-in campaign and believes a new election will be ordered due to a case going to the Supreme Court.
âž¡ The speaker discusses a past court case where he felt the judge unfairly favored the suspect, despite the suspect admitting to murder. He later became a constitutional sheriff to combat such corruption. The speaker also discusses a potential amendment in Utah that would ensure sheriffs are always elected, which he believes is important for maintaining the power of the people. The speaker encourages others to vote for this amendment, despite some initial skepticism from the public.
Transcript
And I’m no stranger to the Power Hour. I’ve been here those last 20 years and I’ve been on the show since it started. And I have a very dear friend that started this whole thing and that was Joyce Riley. And may God rest her soul and may God bless her for the work she did for America. Folks, we have a barn burner show for you today. Someone who is no stranger to this network or this show. But first folks, before we get to our guest, how about some of the news going on in America? Did you see the judge in Virginia who said it’s that the state has to has to put non citizen voters back on the registration rolls to vote? That is against the law.
Okay folks, just so that we know that and who died and made him the final say, does the governor of Virginia have to follow a federal judge? Let’s see what the United States Supreme Court said in the most powerful 10th Amendment state sovereignty decision in the history of America. Folks, go to cspoa.org and get your own booklets. Look at the name of that. It’s white with all the state flags on it. Get this book because this is when the sheriffs of seven sheriffs of this country sued the federal government and won. You want this book because why we have held however, the state legislatures are not subject to federal direction.
Then Scalia clarifies that in the order of the court when he said the federal government may neither issue directives requiring the states to address particular problems nor command the state’s officers or those of their political subdivisions. Folks, the governor of Virginia is not subject to federal direction. Their legislature isn’t and the state’s officers are not. And this federal judge has no business getting in the involved in that. And not only that, what he’s doing is illegal. Then we just got a. We just heard from Sheriff Schmidt in Wisconsin, a swing state. Oh, by the way, what’s going to happen one week from tomorrow folks? Wow, this is going to change America either way.
I am so afraid. And what Did Obama and Biden. And now Kamala promises fundamental change to America. Folks, that fundamental change is the destruction of our U.S. constitution. We’ve got to take that back and not continue to vote for these people who want to destroy America. Wow. So we have a good sheriff from Wisconsin, Sheriff Schmidt, who came out publicly. It’s all over the Internet. Just Google Sheriff Schmidt and you’ll find it. His video warning us, warning America, and warning Wisconsin that they had better vote for Donald Trump. It’s not political. It’s for the safety of his state and his county that he’s doing this.
This is not a political ad. It is a warning ad that the Kamala Harris administration will continue what they’ve been doing the last nearly four years. Folks, you don’t judge people by what they say. You judge them by what they have done and what they do. And Kamala Harris will be the last nail in the coffin to our Constitution. She admits it readily. I think it’s really funny when she says we have to enforce the Constitution. What part of that does she want to enforce? The Second Amendment? Freedom of speech? The right to peaceably assemble? How about no excessive fines or bail from the 8th amendment? How about no cruel and unusual punishment, which she is going to do.
Folks, the problem with Kamala Harris and the others with her, they do not understand one simple principle of liberty, and that is the fruits of my labor belong to me, not to my neighbors and not to the government. The fruits of my labor belong to me. And what did Trump just say on the Joe Rogan show podcast? He wants to get rid of the income tax. That’s the first time he’s really said something that really has a lot of traction and should take place. Why? Because, folks, we are entirely wasting the federal income tax because it simply goes to their corrupt spending interest on their corrupt debt.
Our money doesn’t go to save anything, help anybody build new infrastructure or help the people in North Carolina. It just goes to the politician corrupt interest rate on our national debt. You think that could get worse? Yes, she’s guaranteeing that it will because she admits she wants to raise taxes and especially on big business folks. Who do you think offers jobs to Americans? The government? No, it’s entrepreneurs. It’s big business. Do you know how many jobs Amazon and a lot of these other big businesses create? They are the ones who make America great. They are the ones who keep us fed.
They are the ones who keep us employed. It is not the government. The government and its regulations just get in the way. Folks, he’s been here before, he’ll be here again. And today we have the victim of the greatest election fraud happening in real time right now by the Rhino mafia in Utah, one of the most corrupt states ever. We’re trying to clean it up, but we need him in office to do it, and that is none other than Phil Lyman. Welcome back to the Power Hour, my friend. Thanks, Sheriff. It’s always good to be with you.
Thanks for that introduction. And you’re right, Utah has got some serious, serious problems. Okay, well, let’s go back. I know you’ve been on the Power Hour before, but I even want to get caught up and you and I talk frequently, but I guess. I guess what the bottom line question, I want to know, have you ever been contacted by corrupt governor Spencer Cox? Now, look, I call him corrupt because he’s done some shenanigans and he wasn’t a very Governor, a very good governor. He’s very moderate to leftist in what he does as governor, so he kind of pretends to be a Republican.
I guess he’s a. An epitome of a Rhino. But I want to know, during all this, the shenanigans and cover up of the election fraud in your race, in the governor’s race for Utah governor, has he or his campaign ever reached out to you to talk to you about it? No. No. I mean, I have. I have certain dealings with the lieutenant governor because I have to, because she’s in charge of overseeing the entire race on a single ticket with the governor. So I’ve had to have dealings, have dealings with the lieutenant governor and a few emails back and forth, but no, nothing.
Nothing from the governor or his campaign. But. But even the lieutenant governor who is in charge of all elections for the state. Correct? Correct. She hasn’t said. Well, listen, you know, we would like to sit down and talk with you or would like to ask you to drop out or whatever. She’s never said anything like that. No, she’s blocked. She’s blocked everything we’ve done. I mean, absolutely everything from my first application for lieutenant governor through any grammar request. She’s in charge of all of the grammar requests for signatures for voter records. She’s in charge of the voter rolls.
She won’t turn those over. She won’t turn over Castle records. She. All she does is get on. You know, if we do a request and she’ll do a. In fact, she’s having a meeting this morning with all the clerks and I would love to hear what she’s telling him, but she. She gets on sends out an email saying, you know, do not give these people anything. Do not give Phil Lyman and his campaign anything. No voter records, no voter rolls, no access to, to signatures, none of those things. She did a big conference last week and she stood up and she, you know, shook her finger and very sternly said, doubt the doubters.
Do not doubt the government. Doubt the doubters. Doubt those people who are undermining the trust. You know, and it’s just like, wow, you’re just, you’re watching this. It’s like, man, this is like 1940s style speech that I’m just like, wow, this, this, this person is, is out of touch and really controlling every aspect of, of the election, of the communications. The media is horrible. The, the courts are horrible. All of them, you know, all the judges appointed by Cox or his predecessors, it’s just, it’s just what you would call a kind of a syndicate here and they take care of each other and are going to do whatever it takes to protect.
And I love when we get a little bit of external eyes outside of Utah, looking at Utah saying, what in the world is happening here? We’ve got a lot of that going on right now. Was she the one that also paid about $500,000 of taxpayer dollars out of Utah to put billboard signs all across the freeways saying that Utah has the most secure and honest and fair elections of any state in the union? Isn’t that what she put out? Yes, it was after, after a visit that I had with her in 2021 dealing with the, with the 2020 election.
And I just showed her some inconsistencies from the voter records and the, and the voter rolls to the, to the cast vote records. And she was astonished. And she said, how is that even possible that you get 200% turnout from a precinct? And I said, I don’t know, but let’s find out. Let’s answer that question. I’m, these are your records. They’re not my records. Instead of, instead of answering the question, she made an edict that no one must ever look at the cast vote records again. And then she put up billboards up and down. I15 spent over $500,000 on a propaganda campaign that we are the gold standard of elections.
And again, you know, to doubt the doubters, they did an op ed that said, you know, are undermining confidence. We’re promoting the big lie. We’re, I mean, these are Republicans. They call us right wing extremists. They call the delegates of Utah that go to convention and spend Their whole Saturday there doing their job. They call them right wing extremists. I mean, these are words that are, that are used by our enemies, not by our friends. And, and so, so it’s very revealing as to what we’re dealing with here with the, with the governor, with the lieutenant governor, and with a lot of the people that are in, that are in power at the, you know, in the legislature, the media, obviously.
It’s insane. Oh, my goodness. Well, you know why I call it the rhino mafia of Utah, but it, it, it actually goes further than that because I think it goes to anyone of any party who simply wants to maintain the status quo and make sure that they understand that Utah is the gold standard for elections. And the propaganda scheme which the lieutenant governor knows that that sort of thing works because everybody’s been using that for time infinitum, to win elections. Right. Or anything else they want to win. But this is where I want to go. I want to go back to the beginning.
First, you filed a run for governor about a year ago. Right? Right. And. And you, you are an experienced, I hate to say the word politician, but you are. I’m not going to say it. You are an experienced statesman within Utah. You’re a former county commissioner, you right now a state rep. Correct? Right. In the legislature, you’re in the House of Representatives for the state of Utah. How long have you been doing that? Six years. And I was eight years as a commissioner and went to jail for my activities as a commissioner. Yeah. This is not trivial to me.
And it’s. And I’ve never, never ran for office because I wanted the office. Honestly. 14 years ago, I saw some things happen and I. And I was determined I was going to find out why. Why is there so much collusion between people who hate us and the people who are supposed to be protecting us? Well, I was very familiar with your arrest. You were part of a protest to get Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service to be fair and honest with allowing people. Allowing. As if allow that we have to be. We have to bow down to the federal government and kiss their ring in order to be on public lands in the state of Utah.
Isn’t that pretty much the issue? Yeah, yeah. And shutting down all of our industries while we’re supposed to just, you know, thank them for whatever they leave us. And what they had left us was tourism and recreation in San Juan county, the. The wealthiest county in, in Utah in terms of its mineral wealth. All of that shut down, cattle being shut down, and all of it with this, with this narrative. Well, you can replace all of that income with recreation and tourism. And they are great, they are great businesses. But then they, once you’ve given up all your productive industries, they come in and say, you know what? We really don’t like recreation and tourism either.
And they can turn your light, your economy off and on like a light switch. Which they did October 1st of 2013, which kind of, you know, spurred the protest and a perfectly legal protest that led to my being charged federally with misdemeanor conspiracy to trespass. Four other people were also charged. It was, it was a, it was a political hit job if I’ve ever seen one. So. And we’ve got to get some constitutional sheriffs. We got to get, you know, maybe we need to call it courageous sheriffs, maybe we need to call it sheriffs that simply know to how to do their jobs.
Thank you. Because we’ve got to get sheriffs that tell the BLM and the Forest Service to stay out of our county. And then they need to enforce that because these people will continue to destroy our states or our businesses or they think they could do anything they want. And we are the last bastion of hope to keep the federal government in check. And that’s what we’re supposed to do, folks. And this is a peaceful process. And we learned this at the Bundy situation in Bunkerville, which I know you’re very familiar with, folks. The issue for the Bundys was not that they refused to pay their grazing fees, for God’s sakes.
The issue for the Bundys was the federal government put 52 ranchers out of business in the county of Clark County. There used to be 53 ranchers in Clark County. Now there’s one. The one who stood up and said, we will not comply. We will keep our family, we will keep our ranch, we will keep our cattle. And then what’s the propaganda scheme? All the Bundys are right wing extremists. Oh, they’re insurrectionists. Oh, they’re going to shoot everybody. Oh, they pointed guns at the federal government. The federal government came in and got on a helicopter and machine gunned cattle so that the Bundys couldn’t have it.
It was kind of like, well, if you can’t have them, then. Well, if we can’t have them, then you can’t have them either. So we’re going to just start killing them. And they did. And none of the media cares anything about that. They just care about showing that the Bundys are, are racist and crazy and Fanatics and extremists. And yet the Bundys won and they are still ranching to this day. And it takes somebody standing up to them. But their sheriff should have stopped this way before then and should have guaranteed the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of the Bundys, the federal government notwithstanding.
And so we’re going to continue to have all this tyranny and oppression until we get local officials like county commissioners, like you did. And I know your sheriff back then was not a bad sheriff at all. He was out there with you with the protesters and they lied to him and said they weren’t going to arrest anybody and then they arrested you. Wow. Right? You know, talking about Bunkerville and what happened there, we had already seen who Dan, who Dan Love was in 2009 in Blanding, Utah with those raids. So we knew, we knew who Dan Love was.
And I say, you know, rather than being so hard on Dan Love, remember that after four people committed suicide after the raids in Blanding in 2009, that he was given Agent of the year. So that tells you what the BLM wants from their agents. So what he did in Bunkerville was what he got rewarded for in Blanding and you know, several years later, and it’s, it’s just a travesty position. He was the head law enforcement officer for the Bureau of land Management in 2009. It was their first operation. Blanding was their first operation where they were allowed to wear the brown military style gear, put their sunglasses on and their hats on backwards and carry ars.
And they were, they were, they were giddy when they came to Blanding, you know, Dr. Red had 140 federal agents sign the register in his living room the morning that they raided his home, 140 took his life. The next morning as well as the, the informant took his life, two other people took their life. Other people were put in prison and died shortly after from, you know, addictions and things that were created by the duress of this. This, these are not like little skirmishes. These are like life altering things that happen to these people. And, and that’s the, that’s the travesty of bad policy, of colluding with environmentalists is the next thing you know, you’ve, you’ve made a policy that takes away people, like people’s livelihoods.
And if you don’t go quietly into the night, you know, in response to that federal action, things do not go well and people recognize that. So we become a nation of compliant people. You know, the Constitution doesn’t give us a single right. It says the government can’t take our inherent rights. Those are our rights. So I agree with you. What we need is courageous sheriffs. The Constitution is the document that create. It’s the contract that we created. But underneath that is the feeling that people can do what people were designed to do, which is make decisions, live their lives, take risks, raise families.
And we protect that. Governments that don’t protect that are corrupt governments. As you will, I’m preaching. Yeah, I’ve said that the greatest threat to America is our own corrupt federal government. No question. And it raises its ugly head daily now to prove us even more correct day after day. It’s an absolute shame. It’s a bunch of deplorables in Washington, D.C. that are really the deplorables. Hillary and you are among those. Okay, so right now, where does your case stand? What’s going on with your case? You have been cheated. The voters who voted for you have been cheated.
You won the convention 67.5% to Cox’s 32.5, which was a historic result because a unincumbent as you have told me before, an incumbent governor of Utah has never gotten below 40%. He got the worst ever in Utah history and then he forced a primary when you were already guaranteed not to have to go to the primary. You were slam dunked to be the Representative Republican Party on November 5th and here you are scrambling to run a write in candidacy. Right? Right. So we’ve got a lawsuit. I’m out. Oh, we got to go to a hard break.
And right after the break I’m going to have Phil answer that question. Folks, where does it stand now and why is he running as a write in candidate? Folks, this is the Power Hour Sheriff Matt subbing today. Empower your day by tuning in to the Power hour live from 11am to 12pm Central Time for dynamic discussions and electrifying energy. Got a burning question or a hot take? Call in at 888-429-5471 and be part of the conversation. Can’t catch us live? No sweat. Replay the show anytime, anywhere by visiting the powerhour.com want to stay ahead of the curve? Sign up for our daily newsletter and get exclusive show archives and guest info straight to inbox.
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That’s why more and more patriotic Americans are tuning into the Power Hour. Folks, I want to just go over something with you. The Supreme Court case. The Supreme Court victory. Yes, the Supreme Court victory. The only time in US History where a couple of sheriffs sued the federal government, took it all the way to the Supreme Court and won. I have the highlighted version right here, folks. You can have this. Get it@cpoa.org Constitutional Sheriffs Peace Officers Association, CISPOA. Cspoa.org Folks, you can get three of these for five bucks. You can get as many as you want.
Get a bunch of them. But look what the subjects that Justice Scalia talks about in here. He talks about federal grants, how they’re unconstitutional. He talks about state sovereignty. He talks about the Commerce Clause. He sets, he sets us straight on the Commerce Clause. That does not allow the federal government to do anything at once. He talks about the Supremacy Clause. He clears that up. It does not give supremacy to the federal government. It does if they follow the Constitution. If they don’t, it doesn’t. Folks, you’ve got to see this. The most powerful 10th amendment and one of the most powerful decisions in the history of America.
What a great tool this is for liberty and a great educational tool and great credibility for what Phil and I are talking about today, the Supremacy Clause. You got to see that. He talks about how the EPA was ruled to be unconstitutional in the early 1970s. What happened? He said the states are not puppets of a ventriloquist. Congress. How do you like that for some heavy duty stuff? And the Constitution protects us, quote, from the crisis of the day, folks. The crisis of the day, huh? And then the order of the court, which I already talked about a little bit today.
This is powerful stuff. Such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty. And then it shows the dissenting opinion, which will absolutely make you laugh. But folks, all this is available and the book, the County Sheriff America’s Last Hope. Folks, all of this is available@cspoa.org Cspoa.org because just like you heard right before we came back from the break, there is a solution and The American people have got to be a part of it. And CSPOA has a peaceful and effective solution for liberty. Boy, wouldn’t you love to see sheriffs get involved in the corruption happening in the state of Utah right now? So, Phil, right before break, we were talking about where does your case stand now? Why isn’t the Utah Supreme Court stopping this and kicking Cox off the ballot? And the bottom line is, is Governor Cox qualified right now from the laws and rules of the state and Republican Party itself? Is he qualified to be on the ballot right now? And where does your case stand? Yeah, well, thanks.
And you know, we’re not anti government. We’re anti corrupt government. We’re anti corrupt judges and corrupt supreme courts. We’re all in favor when the, when the courts are, are doing what they’re supposed to do. And so things like you just referenced in the Supreme Court are huge. The Utah Supreme Court dismissed our argument without hearing it and added a few straw man things. Matthew Durant that the chief judge there just basically said, we’re, you know, go away. We’re not going to hear your, we’re not going to hear your case. As you said, I won the convention 67.
Anything over 60, you go straight to the general. The governor knew that. He talked about it in a speech just a few months earlier, you know, and bragged about, you know, hey, we, we’ve, we’ve never failed to qualify through a convention and we’ll always get the qualifying and then we always clean up in the primary because the, the delegates are right wing extremists and everybody knows that. Well, he lost at convention. He had gathered signatures already, which is the end run provided by the legislature, unconstitutionally provided by the legislature, against the will of the GOP and their right of association.
So I should be on the general election ballot. Right off the bat, I said, I want to see the signatures. If you’re saying you qualified because you got 28,000 signatures, we’d like to review those and just see what we think. There was a case in Washington County, a state senator who used the same gathering company and the same people to gather the signature. They do it at the same time. And a bunch of theirs were disqualified by that clerk in Washington county versus the statewide person who had been contracted in Davis County. So we wanted to just compare that.
Could we just look at these two? It’s a not. It’s a logical thing to ask. We were denied. Washington county were denied Spencer Cox signature. And after all of the opposition that we got and the nasty things that were said by the lieutenant governor and the governor, you know, in response to our really common sense request, I concluded he didn’t have his signatures. And I started saying that he didn’t. He doesn’t have his signatures. I’d be glad to be proved wrong. I can easily be proved wrong. In the meantime, I conclude he doesn’t have his signatures.
It created all kinds of a stir. I challenged the signatures of John Curtis, Derrick Brown, the attorney general, and Spencer Cox. Not because I wanted Derek Brown’s and Spencer and John Curtis’s signatures, but because they were all kind of in the same boat. Well, Derek Brown and John Curtis stepped forward and said, you know, not so fast. We want an audit. We want our signatures verified. Drug Spencer Cox into that. So the legislative auditors were asked to do an audit of the signatures. They came back, they said, john Curtis has his signatures. Derek Brown has his signatures.
It appears that Spencer Cox does not have his signatures. And instead of saying and should be disqualified, they said, but he followed all the other requirements. And the. And the legislators are saying, well, he had more time. He could have gotten his signatures. So, so he will just could have, would have, would have. It doesn’t make it happen. And then also with that, I’ve said, and I don’t believe he won the primary election from my calculations. And again, I don’t just throw out, you know, baseless allegations. But that brings up another huge question. How was it that he was able to nullify your victory, take you off of the November 5th ballot like as if he had won? You won that.
How does his signatures nullify your victory at the state convention? Exactly. If, if this, if the legislature wants to say, you can take an alternate path to get on the general election, that doesn’t nullify my clear victory to be on the general election. I guess what they could argue is that they’ll have two Republicans on the ballot at a general election. We wouldn’t be the only state to do that. I think it’d be a mistake for the GOP to allow it. But that’s. But. But to say, you know, he wins and I lose, even though he didn’t win an election, he didn’t get his signatures and still wins and I lose.
And this is the. That’s the report that came out that, that signature verification audit that was done by the legislate legislative auditors, and it was not what. What anyone was expecting. I know the, the syndicate expected, oh, this is going to teach Phil Lyman a lesson. What they learned is, I’m not making this stuff up. And I would, you would find the same thing. If they, if they would let us have access to the cast vote records, I think you would see that 40,000 votes. That book you just showed is their report of this year, of this election.
Yeah, yeah. This came out on the 15th of October. Oh, wow. And, and in there, they, they, they say right in the, right in the report that, that Spencer Cox lost 572 signatures. I don’t know if you can see that there. Lost 572 signatures from their valid verification. Well, he only had 28,006 to start with. You got to have 28,000. So he’s, he’s, he’s lost. He doesn’t have his signatures. And of course they’re saying, well, that, that, that’s water under the bridge. He was already put on the ballot. Well, who put him on the ballot? Yeah, he did.
It’s like he’s the quarterback and the referee of the other team. And it’s like, you can’t be both. You can’t do all this. And the lieutenant governor, a claim that she was hiring an independent counsel to, to handle all of the aspects of the gubernatorial race so that she didn’t have a conflict of interest. That person has not been heard of or seen, hasn’t commented. Greg Bell, former lieutenant Governor himself no communication there. It’s so corrupt. It’s so. And it is the syndicate doing what the syndicate does, which is making sure that if anybody commits a crime, they don’t have to pay for it.
If anybody wants to do something wrong, they can go ahead and do it. And who gets punished by the syndicate? It’s the honest people. It’s the people who are willing to stand up and speak. Legislators are scared to death to weigh in on this. I’ve got a letter right now, and most of the legislators look at it, say, well, I agree with that, but I got to worry about my election. I got to worry about my political future with this governor in office. He’s going to be vindictive of anybody that signs onto this letter. All of these things are just symptoms of a, of us, of a government that has taken a, a course contrary to the will of the people, that they’re symptoms of.
What we said at the beginning of the show today, and that is the corruption of the state of Utah. Right. And not only that, the Salt Lake Tribune and the Deseret News have covered this up. And, and I told the reporter that called me when I was in Utah a couple of weeks ago at my grandson’s state golf tournament. She calls me and starts asking me about the amendment to the Utah constitution that says sheriffs will always be elected. And she wanted my opinion about that. I said why are you guys covering up the corrupt governor’s race? Why aren’t you talking about that? She goes, oh well, a different reporter handles that.
You’ll have to call. So and so I said give me his number. I will. And she says no, I can’t give his number out. So how did he call me then? You know, but they’re covering this up. I told her, I said your paper is protecting an illegal candidacy by the incumbent governor. So, so we, we had, we believe it was the Cox campaign put on two Lyman’s on the as as write in so that now you added two people by the name of Lyman who they found throughout the state of Utah and had them run as another right in candidate.
Two more was the last name alignment. Now what has happened to that? So we sued, we sued the other two linemans. I didn’t want to sue them, but I want the information. So KSL comes out with the story and I don’t know if you’ll be able to see that, but it says two candidates for governor have dropped out. And what picture do they put? Myself and Lane Banger. Yeah, those aren’t the people that dropped out, but they don’t say who dropped out. If you look in the fine print you can see Richard and Carol Lyman. But the, but the, but this went out all over, you know and I’ve got people that are saying, you know, they’re very angry.
We’ve supported Phil Lyman. Why did he drop out of the race? What’s going on? I’ve got over 50 texts and emails just in the last two days that we’ve, we’ve, we’ve accumulated people saying, you know, why, why did, why did the Lyman’s drop out? Why did Phil Lyman drop out? Because the press made it look like it was you. Because the press made it look like it was we and so did. And the lieutenant Governor sent out an email to everybody saying that two, two candidates with the last name of Lyman have dropped out of the governor’s race.
And, and it doesn’t say Phil Lyman and Natalie Clausen remain candidates. She doesn’t say therefore a vote for Lyman will now go to Phil Lime. She doesn’t clarify any of that. She just casts this big confusion over the whole thing. And it’s. Wait a minute. What they did is they took a corruption procedure that they caused in having the two Linemans join, then you objected and the two linemans quit and they got even more corrupt trying to make it look like it was you. Exactly. Exactly. This is who they are. And it just, and it just goes, it just goes on and on and on because we’re dealing with people who have a guilty conscience.
They’re going to do anything it takes to stay in power. And I mean, this governor is, he’s just, he has no moral backing. I say it’s not that. He’s dishonest in some things, he’s dishonest in everything. There’s nothing he says that is intended to convey the truth and the authenticity of a governor who cares about Utah. It’s all designed to protect his people, to protect the syndicate. And I don’t know where that, where it all comes from. I don’t know if that all stems from the governor or if it’s much higher than him. As the chair of the National Governors association, we get all these weird bills that are coming down, all top down.
Nothing comes from the bottom up in Utah anymore. It’s all top down. Centralizing our water, pushing global climate change, pushing 15 minute cities, taking over our energy sector, destroying coal, destroying all these things. And yet for three months up to the election, he’ll run as the governor who’s trying to open access, get back our federal lands, shut down dei, stand up for women’s rights, all these things that he, that he can’t, that he actively promoted against for the last eight years as lieutenant governor and then as governor, the only, the only Republican governor who signed Obama’s or Joe Biden’s Global Climate Core initiative.
The only governor that uses his pronouns. The. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. People are so disgusted. But that’s who we’re dealing with. And the nice thing, sorry, I’m rambling here, but nice thing about is people’s eyes are getting open just a little bit. And as soon as they start to realize what’s going on, they, they open up pretty wide. And, and I believe we’ve got well over 50% of Utah who is tired of this, which means the only way that Governor Cox can win an election is to cheat, is to lie, is to get the GOP intimidated, to get the legislature intimidated.
And that’s what they’re doing. We’ve got a case going to the U. To the US Supreme Court now, the one that was thrown out from the Utah Supreme Court. And really ask one question, and that’s, does the GOP in Utah have the right of association to pick their candidate. If the answer to that is yes, then I think it gets remanded back down to a lower court to figure out how to remedy this. And our attorneys say there’s no. This is not black and white. I mean, this is very black and white. And the, and the, the result will be the ordering a new election.
Whether it happens now or a year from now, they will order a new election in Utah. And anyway. Well, that allows him to stay on the ballot, though, doesn’t it? No, he’d go off the ballot. He wouldn’t. He wouldn’t. It would. It would go back to who won the convention. Qualified to be on the ballot. He’s not qualified to be on the ballot. Shouldn’t be on this ballot. In the meantime, we’re running a writing campaign that like no one has ever seen before. And I don’t take credit for it. It’s the grassroots people in Utah are making their own signs, they’re making their own flyers, they’re going door to door.
And our writing campaign is extremely, extremely powerful. The biggest concern we hear is, well, if we do a write in for Lyman, then we’re afraid that Brian King, the Democrat, will get elected. And I say, well, you know, you know, first of all, a person who cheats to get on the ballot should not get elected no matter what party is. It’s the GOP’s fault that we essentially don’t have a GOP candidate on the, on the ballot. And, and thirdly, Spencer Cox is further left leaning than. Than Brian King. So. So this idea that, that it’ll be so devastating to have, you know, an honest liberal Democrat on there versus a dishonest, lying person with an R by their name is, Is also kind of astonishing to me.
Oh, man. And people thought we were crazy when we came up with the term Rhino. And actually rhino came up. It seemed like it came up big during the Tea Party movement. Yeah, yeah. It’s not fair. It’s not fair to the rhinoceros that that term is used. Rhinos are good animals. Yeah. It’s getting them a bad name. Yeah. So. So it literally could happen then, that the election happens. Let’s say that you’re right in candidacy barely fails. Cox could be the governor, and then after your successful lawsuit to the Supreme Court, he could actually be removed.
Yes, it should be and should be. You know, courts don’t like to mess around with elections and the will of the people, but if you can show that the will of the people was completely disregarded and that’s why, for me, the primary election is really a key point too, because he can say, well, yeah, I may have, I may have fallen short of the signatures, but I did. We did have a primary election that I won just barely, by the way. Right. It was, it was. He was 54. He, he had 54%. So four, four points away from, from losing that, that primary election, which is also unheard of with a, with an incumbent governor.
And, and I believe that there were 40,000 votes that were loaded into that election that are, that are not real votes. Again, I could be disproven so easily. I’d love to be disproven. I think just as they, just as they did with the signatures, I think we’ll get an audit of the primary election on the cast vote records. Some statisticians have looked at it already, what little information they can get, and they say it’s clearly, clearly been manipulated. But they refused to show the signatures for quite some time. And then somebody in the state actually did an audit.
But did they go through every single signature? They did a sample. They wouldn’t have had time to do that that quickly. Did they or did they not they do their sampling, their statistical sampling to get a, to get a 95% accuracy, you need to sample at least 380 signatures roughly. They did a thousand just for good measure. Comes up with roughly the same result. And it’s exactly the same result that the, that the state auditor came up with about a month ago because he took it on himself to, to do a statistical review. And he came with almost the exact same numbers.
And both, and both had 10. You know, the internal auditors, the legislative auditors, you can kind of understand them saying, we’re not, we’re not making a statement here because their, their job is, you know, prospective to help legislators make good laws. They’re not there to, you know, destroy people or candidacies or whatever. So the fact that they put this out before the election, the fact that they gave some of this information is huge to me. As a, as a CPA myself and as an auditor, I read this and say, wow, this is a scathing report. Other people say, oh, it looks like, you know, if you, if you squint real hard and look at it this way, that Spencer Cox is okay, and you’ve got so many people doing that, and it’s just laughable to me.
Oh, my goodness. Well, of course, if this was turned the other way around and you didn’t have enough signatures, you had been thrown off so quick your head would spin, right? And the response would be, you know, you have remedies with the court. So that’s why I say to Spencer Cox, you could sue the Davis county clerk for. For giving you a bad, you know, bad certification. You could sue the lieutenant governor’s office. You could sue the GOP for their misleading whatever, take it up with the courts and come back in four years and better luck next time.
I mean, that’s what I’ve gotten from exactly day one. You know, it’s like. It’s, like, predetermined. You will not be the governor. You will never be the governor. It doesn’t matter what you do. And I’ve never wanted to be the governor. What I wanted to do was shine a light and expose this corruption that I see happening. It just so turns out that that’s a really good platform if you want people to support you on the governor’s race as well, is that you’re willing to take on the corruption. You’re willing to tell the truth. It’s a rare thing today, I’m finding.
It’s a really rare thing. Well, God bless you, Phil Lyman. My. My goodness. My, my. My heart bleeds for this. I lived in Utah for 15 years. I, too, was taken aback by the corruption of that state. There’s a corrupt judge in Provo, a federal judge there that ruled against me in a murder case that I handled back in 1985. And his reasoning to support the murderer was astonishing and to support the friends of the murderer who actually aided and abetted him after the fact in getting rid of evidence and protecting him. He sided with all of them and the two of us.
He said, I lied half of the time, and my captain lied 100% of the time in his testimony. He is a good man. And I don’t lie in court, and I don’t lie at all. And then this corrupt judge so arrogantly was so clairvoyant that he knew that his. The suspects, witnesses, were telling the truth. And the two peace officers, very dedicated, highly decorated, were lying. And he. He took the case from there. There was never any dispute that the suspect committed the murder. He and his lawyers didn’t dispute that. They agreed that he did, but that we supposedly bribed the witnesses.
I testified in court, the witnesses came to us. We didn’t need to bribe them for anything. They came to us with the story of telling the truth because they were afraid of this guy. It’s really taken me back. It was one of the reasons why I became a constitutional sheriff later on in My career, because I wanted to change all that. I got sick just like you did. You got sick and tired of the corruption. And I so admire you for your battle. Well, I admire you, sheriff, and you are changing the landscape in a really significant way, and I can’t thank you enough for that.
It’s greatly needed. Well, you know, I don’t know where this amendment stands in the state of Utah. I hope it passes and does come part of this state constitution that sheriffs will always be elected because that protects. Doesn’t protect the sheriff. It protects the power of the people and the right of the people to choose their sheriffs. And that should and always will be protected if it’s in the constitution. It’s interesting because so many people, they see an amendment like that and it’s like, we already elect our sheriff. What’s up? What are they trying to pull? The legislature.
The legislature could change that anytime they want, just like they did in King County, Washington. Yeah. They appoint the sheriff now and the legislature could. Could vote to do that. Yeah. If it’s in the constitution, they can’t. Yeah. Yeah. So I hope it passes too. I voted for it. I encourage anybody to vote for that. That amendment. But it is real telling that people have such low trust of anything that comes from the legislature right now. Anything that comes out. It’s like they’re looking at, like, what’s. Where’s the hook? Something’s. Something can’t be as clear. As clear as what that amendment states.
In fact, a lot of people who are. Who are you kind of the watchdogs were out saying, you know, don’t vote for this. There’s something. We’ve got to research this. They’ve. Most of those have come back around, said, yeah, we think it’s. We think it’s. It’s good. But the legislature is not taking at face value. But what could it hurt that they just simply say that, you know, because the. The legislature created the office of sheriff in the state of Utah. And so they have the prerogative to change that however they want. They could. They could vote sheriffs out.
Right. They could get rid of the officer sheriff, and there would be no, nothing there except the police, state or state police, and then the local police departments. But there would be no elected law enforcement officer anywhere in the state because they’re under control. We want to control the legislature, not vice versa. And so anyway, Phil Lyman, what a story you have. And this should be huge nationwide. It keeps going. Yeah. My goodness. Well, thank you. Thanks again. And we’re getting. We’re getting the word out. People are. I told somebody the other day, I get chills when I think about where we’re at in history right now and being part of it and the chance to even weigh in.
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