Power of Nocebo and Placebo in Health Politics. Quantum Energy Advancements w/ Ian and Philipp

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âž¡ Lela’s quantum technology, backed by over 40 studies, improves blood health, neutralizes harmful electromagnetic fields, and boosts cell energy. This technology is used by top athletes and health experts. They offer products like the Heal capsule and the quantum block, which protect against harmful fields and infuse frequencies into objects. The effectiveness of their products is proven by numerous studies and testimonials from a large community of users.
âž¡ The text discusses a product that can be tested for 15 days for free and returned within 60 days if it doesn’t work. The speaker, a consultant for NASA, discusses the power of marketing and how it can be misleading, using the example of doctors endorsing cigarettes in the past for monetary gain. They also discuss the high cost and low effectiveness of many cancer drugs, and emphasize the importance of personal experiences and community support in their work. They conclude by discussing the power of belief and intent in medical outcomes, both positive and negative.
âž¡ The text discusses the impact of mental state on physical health, the placebo effect, and the potential of technology to amplify it. It also mentions the importance of placebo-controlled studies in determining the effectiveness of treatments. The text further discusses the negative effects of nocebo in politics and the need to eliminate it for societal improvement. Lastly, it talks about a study on fertility and the significant improvement seen in women’s health markers, and another study on the reduction of parasitic load in the blood.
âž¡ The study shows that reducing parasites in the body can significantly improve health, including mental performance. This is important because parasites are linked to various diseases, including cancer. The study found that by creating a less hospitable environment for parasites, their numbers decreased by an average of 57.14%. This suggests that focusing on improving our body’s environment and immune system can potentially increase lifespan and overall health.
âž¡ The text discusses a study that modulates certain attributes of food to reduce its negative impact on the body. While it’s possible to do this with most foods, the researchers caution that they can’t make promises as they lack sufficient data. They’ve seen promising results, such as a significant reduction in allergy responses, but they’re still working on gathering more data. The text also mentions how positive intent can affect outcomes, suggesting that prayer or positive thinking could have a real impact.
âž¡ David Hawkins’ work emphasizes the impact of consciousness and intent on our actions, suggesting that positive or negative intent can change outcomes. This concept is often overlooked in science, but it’s crucial to consider our awareness and the direction of our consciousness. The speaker also mentions a supportive community focused on positive intent and discusses Quantum products and Leva Q, which can be explored through provided links. These products are user-friendly and offer a unique gift option, symbolizing a shift into a new age of consciousness and intent.

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You know, there’s plenty of data showing very conclusively that if your focus and your intent are positive versus negative, it entirely changes the outcome of medical procedures and you know, the therapies that you’re actually even. Yeah, even there’s a nice bowl which is the negative. And that is just as powerful. I’ve been reading about it lately and that’s just as powerful as if you don’t think something’s going to work and you it can, it can actually your body can become worse afterwards because you don’t think it’s going to work. And you can stop something that normally would work from working experience the groundbreaking advancements of Lela’s quantum technology.

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Dive into the realm of innovation and wellness@Sarah Westall.com shop or by following the link below. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have two of my favorite people here. I have Ion and Philip and they are scientists and amazing people, very aware and spiritually conscious to bring good things to the world, which I love. And they’re going to share some of their recent studies with the Leela Q. What quantum is why so much of the quantum stuff isn’t. Doesn’t work and you know why that is and what’s going on there and how their stuff works.

I mean they have over 70 peer reviewed placebo controlled really well done studies with prestigious institutions proving their stuff works. It’s actually it works really well and why it does and we’re going to talk about that. Just amazing. You know Philip has a deep background in telecom. He used to be of vice president in, I think it was T Mobile and then he got into all this consciousness stuff. He is amazing. He’s on the forefront of this quantum stuff. And then Ion Mitchell is his chief science advisor and I got to tell you, Ion has worked for the top organizations in the world, from NASA to different universities.

He’s the scientist. Scientist. People go to him to ask questions. He’s really amazing. And I say this during the show, that these guys are on the forefront of change that’s occurring right now. These are the type of people that 50 years ago, the scientists and the people look back and go, wow, those guys are the ones that made a difference. So it’s really cool. It’s an honor to have people like that on my show and to really work together to make a difference in people’s lives. And before we get into this, I want to tell you that they have a special going on with different Christmas products that you can get on the Leela Q website.

I’ll have the links below. You can use my coupon code. I believe it’s Sarah 15. I’ll have that below as well. And you can try it for 15 days. They also have a money back guarantee. If you don’t like their stuff, you can send it back. But it makes amazing Christmas gifts. And I know you guys are being bombarded right now with Christmas crap, but this is good stuff. So look into it. I’ll have the links below. Let’s get into my fantastic conversation with Ian Mitchell and Philip. Ion and Philip, I am so happy to have you back.

Hey, thanks so much for having us. Well, you guys are, first of all, you’re really interesting. So that’s what’s so cool. But you have some of the best science going on. You’re blazing trails in the forefront of what’s going on in the world, literally. And so it’s so cool having you on. And before we get into some of the really amazing things that you’re working on, let’s. Can you answer some of these questions? People wonder about quantum energy and there’s so many people out there selling quantum energy and it just doesn’t do anything. Right? I mean, people sign up, it doesn’t do any.

You know what I’m talking about. Quantum corn. Yes. Bs, you know, and. But you guys, and this is, I always tell them you have more studies. You have, I probably think you have over 70 studies, peer reviewed, well structured, with prestigious organizations, independent organizations, proving your stuff works. I mean, your stuff just works and we know what does. But there’s so many people out there doing it really is kind of quackery when it doesn’t work at all. So can you address this and what is going on? Sure. You want me to start Ayan and then you jump in? Yeah, yeah, Go for it.

I’ll jump in. Yeah, I know you have something you want to say. The biggest problem is that, that humans, the vast majority of humans, have not learned to really sense and perceive energy. And they’ve even forgotten completely that we’re ourselves. Energy and frequency. If that wasn’t the case, be very easy because everyone could just detect whether this is a working product or a non working product. Right. So now that comes down to just a few small amount of people that actually can detect that. And besides that, you need actual scientific validation or you can just try these things and report out.

There’s a lot of stuff out there that people call quantum. And they start selling these little stickers on Amazon like a quantum sticker for your phone and they don’t work. And they, they use this as a marketing tool, the quantum. Well, we’re not using it as a marketing tool. We’re using it because we’re working with the real deal. And that’s the big difference. Those people are not, they are not even doing a bad job with it. They’re not using it at all because they don’t even know how. That’s the main difference. Why are they selling it like that? You think they’re just using it as, they’re using the term itself to market their stuff because it’s a cool term.

Yeah, exactly. And then you, what you need to do is you need to at least check do they have any. Because not all the products out there that are marketed that way are bad. Right. So. But the vast majority really doesn’t work. So I think we, we had tested about 11 or 12 different of these stickers. And I, by the way, don’t even know if they’re called quantum stickers, but some of them probably are. And they didn’t have any efficacy whatsoever. None of them. You didn’t find anybody that hadn’t. That was. No, you know. You know, I mean, not that people come after me.

We didn’t test all of the ones that are on the market, but we tested 11 or 12 different types and none of them work. And the reason why we tested them is actually because we had the idea we could maybe make their product even better and then collaborate with them, you know, because with our tech we can do that, but it didn’t have any efficacy to begin with, so there was no point of collaborating. That’s how we found out about it. And yeah, so people need to look at research. They need to look at actual studies.

And what’s also unique about our technology, I think besides all the Studies. We have a huge community of real people and active people that use our tech and have experienced a lot of amazing things and they’re available. There’s a private telegram group that we have for the Lila Quantum stuff, right? With around about 8,000 people now that are active on telegram in a private group. And then we have, I think about 3000 for the quantum upgrade side. And it’s also a private group, so you couldn’t even find it on telegram because we don’t want any bots, we don’t want any people that are not interested in this.

And you can ask real people there right about. Okay, so what, so what does this do? Did you try this out? Is anybody here that, you know, had knee pain at some point and got help? What about food sensitivities? Did you guys experience anything like that? Right? You, you ask this question and then within, you know, minutes or hours, a lot of people will respond to you and tell you their own experiences. And, and I think if you put that in perspective together with all the research that’s there. And we’re not hiding either, right? So we go to tons of conferences every year where we have a booth and you can come speak with us in person.

You can you the products and all of that and test it for yourself. The quantum upgrade, we make it even available for people to try for free. I think the code is Sarah, right? Or it’s Sarah 15 for 15 days for free. Right? So you can test these things. You’re not bound to anything. And certainly we don’t want anyone to use our products or buy our products that doesn’t feel it’s working for them. So we even have a return guarantee, except for the blocks, all the products, you can send them back after 60 days if it doesn’t work.

The blocks are cool because you can program them, stuff with them. The blocks are really cool. So what do you have to say? I know you have a lot of opinions too, and I gotta tell people, I gotta tell people. You, you’ve been, you’ve worked as a consultant for NASA. You’ve. Some people don’t even think that’s a badge of honor, but you have and you’ve worked with other people and you’re kind of like the, the scientist scientist. Your people go to you for information. So I, I just want people to hear that, but go ahead. Well, so the thing that comes to mind when your question kind of right off the bat of why would people sell this stuff? I think what actually came to mind is Lucky Strikes are smoked by More doctors than anyone else.

You know, I think very often there’s kind of this ridiculous marketing. And you saw that, you know, with something as, you know, very harmful as, say, cigarettes, that was kind of just. The thing is, like, you know, people would be, I’m a doctor. I’m going to endorse these cigarettes. It’s monetary gain. Right. That’s three out of five doctors endorsed cigarettes back then. Exactly. Literally. And there’s marketing around it. Yes. Yeah. When you. I think it sped up their metabolism, so they’re like, oh, it speeds up your metabolism. We endorse this. That’s what they did. And I’m sure there’s, you know, there’s kind of an excuse that can be made for most things, but all in all, collectively, it wasn’t beneficial, but they got paid pretty well to do that.

And so I think that’s one of the things is, you know, if you really want to understand something, unfortunately, follow the money. Right. It’s. It’s the big impediment to so many things developmentally moving forward at a really quickened pace. You just look at the people who are the entrenched, you know, kind of large organizations that hold the power. They don’t want to give it up. Right. That’s. That’s in the sciences. That’s the thing that slows us down more than anything else. It’s not lack of brilliant researchers out there doing brilliant research. That’s right. Yeah. It’s literally, it’s the monetary boxing end of things that inhibit that propagating and moving forward quickly.

And with what we’re doing, like Philip said, we’re not hiding out. We’re very accessible. We’re out all the time. We publish a lot of studies. One of the things that kind of upsets me a little bit is I feel bad for people because I read a litany of studies, and you get very adept at doing statistical analysis and kind of looking at how things are structured. And a lot of it is you can. You can very easily manipulate statistics to make things that aren’t good seem good. You know, like, I always carry a bomb on a plane because what, statistically are the odds that two people would have a bomb? It makes it so much safer.

You know, I mean, there’s. There’s like all these. You can come up with so much. Yes. Or you can say the opposite, that 100, you know, carrots kill you. Because I don’t know Everybody who. Because 10% of the people who ate carrots on a. On a daily basis died and but this, the group was people in their 70s and 80s. I mean, you could do whatever you want. Yeah, actually the one, the one that comes to mind the most that really does kind of frustrate me is like cancer medications, chemotherapeutics. Over the past, say, 30ish years, there have been, I think, upwards of 90 new cancer drugs that have been approved by the FDA.

But when you actually look at the shift, the median increase in lifespan has been less than two months. So you’ve got all of these drugs that have been approved. And the cost of getting a drug approval for humans is upwards of $1 billion on average. So you see these huge organizations spending tens of billions of dollars to do things that really aren’t fundamentally helping people. And I think what’s really different about what we’re doing is one, the cost burden is incredibly low. We keep it very low. And two, it’s truly impactful. And like Philip alluded to with the telegram group, don’t take our word for it, right? Take the word of the thousands of other people who have had their own experience and their own benefit.

I mean, we have to publish the scientific data so that people have kind of a repository of knowledge. They can go back, they can look at and say, yeah, this is clinically validated, it’s randomized, double blind, placebo controlled. We do all of the kind of fundamental things. The real deal, yeah, I mean, it is the real deal. But I find that to be requisite kind of in the sciences you should be doing that and it should be reproducible. But beyond that, nobody really cares about the data sets. What they care about is how it impacts the people they love.

Right. How it will help you or help someone you care about or help an animal you care about. And that’s, I think, you know, to Philip’s point, that’s the beauty of that telegram group is you got literally, you know, 8,000 ish people who are on there solely for the purpose of sharing, helping, communicating. And it’s, it’s an incredibly valuable resource because it’s a place where people literally take their time and they give their time to one another to help push things forward. That’s where some of the most, sometimes the most informed people are, without a doubt.

Yeah, you know, tip of the hat to K. Elmer. You know, there are a lot of people on there who do their own research and it’s quite effective and very insightful. And I think if you, if you take a group of people collectively, it doesn’t matter who you know, who you are right. We have a group of very, very smart people, but collectively we’re so much better off than we are individually. And that’s, I think, the biggest. The biggest resource here is that we’ve created and curated is probably the more appropriate term curated. A really beneficial group with really positive intent that’s open and can share.

Positive intent has. So it’s a placebo effect matters because it’s positive effect. And I know you guys are positive intent. I know you guys aren’t about placebo, but placebo actually is based in quantum energy, isn’t it? It’s like your intent and your positive. There’s something to do to that because of our frequency and that just there’s science behind that. Not that you. That quantum is all about placebo because it’s not people, but placebo is real for that reason. Yeah. Read Bruce Lipton’s the Biology of Belief. You know, there. There’s plenty of data showing very conclusively that if your focus and your intent are positive versus negative, it entirely changes.

It changes the outcome of medical procedures and, you know, the therapies that you’re actually taking. Even. Yeah, even. There’s a nicebo, which is the negative. And that is just as powerful. I’ve been reading about it lately, and that’s just as powerful as if you don’t think something’s going to work. And it can actually, your body can become worse afterwards because you don’t think it’s going to work. And you can stop something that normally would work from working. My dad, literally a month and a half ago or so, his cardiologist said, and his heart’s been in really bad shape for quite a while.

And his cardiologist said, listen, you don’t want to wait too long to reach out to hospice. And my dad’s health took a nosedive after that. And he called me and said, oh, my cardiologist just said this. And I said, well, but why? And he said, he must know something. I don’t. There’s got to be something wrong. That’s right. He just spiraled. And then, you know, a month later, his cardiologist was on vacation and he went to the younger cardiology guy that was there. And that fellow said, you know, actually, your EKG is looking pretty solid. I think we may need to kind of reassess where you’re at.

It’s not looking so bad. And, oh, you know, I thought, oh, my God. You know, it’s. I mean, that is the power of belief is if you tell your body you’re going to die. You flood it with all sorts of, you know, stress hormones and those don’t play so well. Yeah, there’s some scientific reasons for that. Oh yeah, absolutely. Very measurable. Very measurable. Well, and then I’ve had a scientist come back to me and he, this, I love this guy and we talk a lot and he goes, you know, but Sarah, beyond placebo and nocebo, which are very real, there’s the notion that if you’re in an ambulance and you’re unconscious, whatever you give somebody should work because your mental state isn’t affecting it at all.

And so there are things that I want something that works regardless, you know what I mean? And so there’s something to that as well. And that’s where the well designed studies come out and it balances out the nocebo and the placebo and shows where things will work, you know, in the majority sense. Correct. So. And by the way, one thing we can’t yet prove, but that is super, super important to understand, is that with the quantum fields that we can provide with our tech, you can actually increase and amplify the placebo effect, which is very, very interesting.

That’s just one thing back with a study yet. But that is how we always have seen it. And it literally, if you ask all these people, they’ll tell you that you can literally manifest better with that because you can leverage your positive intentions and all of that. You wish to come true into your life, that you want to invite into your life, you can amplify that. But that of course wouldn’t, wouldn’t be the real deal. Right, that’s, that’s still great to do and to know actually, but it’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking exactly. We’re not talking about actually placebo controlled studies.

And you mentioned, you know, we have a lot of studies and actually over, over 48 of those of those studies have been placebo controlled. And there’s constantly new studies coming on. What does placebo control mean? Right. So you have different ways on how to do it. We usually talk about it needs to be sham controlled if it’s tested with a physical device. Right. And it needs to be blinded, randomized. You know, this is what we’re talking about. And so placebo controlled is like the being unconscious in the ambulance and not where placebo and placebo cannot affect you at all.

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Again infomilesfranklin.com tell them that Sarah sent. Actually, on that, on that note, the most recent study that we have, and this was on 65 participants and it is randomized, double blind placebo controlled with that, they were unconscious and they got a 6.32% boost in heart rate variability. And so that’s 65 participants, 6.32% increase in HRV. And definitively they were asleep. So it’s not something. Yeah, no, that’s, that’s, that’s why you placebo control things. I did a, I just for the heck of it, I did something in chat GPT and I wanted to see what NO does in politics.

Totally different thing. And it’s actually a strategy in fifth generation warfare and just in politics in general, to use nocebo, the negative accumulated effect, to sabotage somebody else and to have the negative thoughts and the negative propaganda out there before someone even tries to do something so that it sabotages it. Everybody thinks it’s going to fail and it’s not going to work. And that’s why in businesses or organizations or teams, sports teams, you work really hard to not allow those kind of attitudes so that you don’t. So that doesn’t happen. You work on the placebo part, the intent of succeeding.

So anyways, that was interesting. You were like, yeah, wow. Okay. But. Okay, so that’s it. That’s what happens. That’s what’s going on in the world. People should look it up. Nocebo go to chatgpt. How does nocebo work in politics? And it’s something we need to, you know, beat out of our, get it out of our. If we want to improve humanity, we need to remove that as much as possible. But anyway. Yeah, right. Because it’s so destructive. Okay, so. But you have, you have some amazing things that you’ve been working on that. We have fertility issues with women, big time.

Especially now. There’s so many charts. The fertility has dropped Significantly. And you have some solutions and some studies that came out showing an improvement in fertility. You actually are working with health clinics, women health clinics doing this. Can you talk about it? Yes, correct. So this was actually, this happened in a way where this institute came to us. The institute is called Reputable Health, and they work with thousands of women in regards to fertility and fertility issues. And then they came to us and said, well, we learn about your technology and we know it helps with the blood and mitochondrial function, ATP production, so does it also help with fertility? And I said, I don’t know.

I can’t prove or claim anything. My assumption is, yes, based on everything that we know. But there hasn’t been a study yet in regards to that. And frankly, we wanted to do this. But fertility itself is really hard to measure, actually. There’s not like one marker where you say, oh, you’re fertile or you’re not fertile. It’s a bunch of different markers that people look at. And then they said, yeah, but we can do that. We do this all the time. And I said, okay, great. So if. If you can set it up, then we don’t have any bandwidth at the moment.

We’re happy to provide the technology. And so then that got started and they had a bunch of women. I think there was 28 women in the end, that completed the whole study out of 35 that that started originally. And they measured all kinds of different markers that are an indicator for fertility, which includes hrv, which is directly linked to the autonomic nervous system, heart rate, resting heart rate, lots of different markers. And then on top of that, they ran a survey, you know, before, during and after were the women themselves also filled in the survey. So all of that improved significantly across the board.

And not only in the survey data, but also in the data that was measured by the wearable devices that these women were given. Right. So all the markers improved significantly. And the study is about to be published by this institute. That’s why it’s not on our website yet, because we need to wait until they’re done with the process. And it’s very significant. So that institute is extremely happy about this and said, well, these results are remarkable and we need to tell more people about it. So, yeah, the next step for us is to actually take this study to even more.

So I think we’ll run a study with 120 or 130 women as the next step. But it was already statistically significant in terms of the different markers that improved. So that’s very, very positive. That’s Excellent. Do you have any graphs or anything that we can share with people? I can maybe put some links to the studies or something. Yeah, so we can’t provide the link to this study yet because it’s not published yet. And we literally cannot put it on our website because it is not published yet by that institute. But I can send you a graph that is one or two graphs that are very interesting that you can show for sure.

Oh, excellent. Okay. And you also have parasites. You know, people are talking a lot about how parasites are one of the core issues that we’re dealing with. And you found a way to reduce parasites with or shown that your quantum upgrade also reduces parasites. Can you talk about that? Yes, it’s about parasitic load in the blood. So the BASA Institute found that in a couple of the darkfield microscopy studies that they ran and they. Parasitic load was not a topic, it was not a focus area of those studies at all, frankly. But then they saw this and they said, wow, this is an incredible reduction in parasitic load.

And they found even one person where the parasitic load reduction was 80% within 15 minutes, which is quite significant. Right. Frankly, that was on the high end. Right. So don’t think that was the low end. That was definitely the high end, but still that’s incredible. So I asked them and said, well, this topic is very, very relevant nowadays. Can you run a study and just focus hone in on this on the parasitic load? And they said, yes, they’re extremely thorough. So what they did is actually they wrote a report that is so comprehensive to actually also show what all plays a role in parasites and in parasitic development and all of that.

It’s very comprehensive because there isn’t just parasites and no parasites. There’s also a lot in between. Then you have an environment in the body that can be pro parasites and also one that is not good for parasites. And they looked at all of that and there was a significant reduction in parasitic load shown across the board in this study. It was also randomized and double blind. And they also looked at the different markers that show the environment in the blood. And everything that can be can be said to be pro parasites was significantly reduced. So the environment was made so much harder that the parasites had to develop backwards or even disappear.

Right. That is exactly what was shown across the board and it’s quite phenomenal. Why is it so important? Well, you know, there’s a link between parasites and the C disease. Obviously, you know, a lot of people know that parasites, we find them nowadays in a lot of different Foods. It’s something that if we have an unhealthy body, it literally destroys us from within. It is also pretty clear it has impact on our mental performance, on our brain, et cetera. And if you have something that’s non invasive to help with that. And by the way, we’re not claiming or even telling you this is what you should do as your parasite treatment.

No, just go ahead and do whatever you want to do or regularly do in regards to parasites. You can use this in addition, and you can use this even 24,7 to keep your environment in a better state so you don’t even run into huge issues. And by the way, Lyme disease is also very closely linked because Lymes are also a form of parasites. So it’s quite a big topic. It was also just to throw in because this relates to the big C quite a lot, especially with some of the latest research that’s kind of being pushed out is the fungal environment, which is what, you know, Philip was saying is kind of the, the environment that’s conducive to parasite load or parasitic loading.

So what happened is that actually in all of the people the average reduction was 57.14%, a reduction in the load, which is huge. And so, you know, from my, from my standpoint, since I, you know, try and help out a lot of people that are contending with cancer and the like, that’s something that’s really, really beneficial. Like that is, that is a non trivial shift. 57% people, the cancer is skyrocketing. Right. So the better you clean up your environment, the better chance you have. And I wanted to talk because you were talking about 90 new medicines for cancer and the average increase in lifespan is two months, which is incredible because if you focus on your environment and your immune system, you’re going to get more than 2 months Likely lifespan just by doing that.

Definitively, Sarah. No, definitively. The problem there is scientifically we have kind of been on a boondoggle in terms of cancer. Now this. And I’ll probably get a lot of pushback for this. But I’ll say it anyway because I would say at this point the proof is kind of incontrovertible. Cancer. You know, everybody looks at it as a genetic disorder and there’s the somatic cell mutation theory, right? And it’s wrong. It’s a metabolic disease. Definitively. And if you constantly have all of the best minds and all of the research funding moving things in one direction and the outliers who are beating the drum like Tom Seyfried at Boston College and a couple of other people.

Dom D’Agostino has done a lot of research on ketosis and its inhibition of both epilepsy and peripherally cancer. And all of those people are doing really valid research and saying, hang on, wait a second. The somatic cell mutations occur as an after effect of metabolic dysregulation. It’s something that happens as a causal thing metabolically, but it’s a secondary function is the cell mutation. And so to say, like, oh, every time I see this, there’s a somatic cell mutation. Yeah, but, but it’s already been metabolically dysregulated. And so if you just go back and approach things like that, you’re going to get way the heck more than a two month bump in lifespan.

Right. Put people in a ketogenic diet, take out all of the toxins in their environment, number one. Yep. Yeah. I mean, there’s so many just fundamentally simple things you can do. You know, put people on a ketogenic diet, give them hyperbaric therapy or some sort of related oxygenation therapies, they’re going to do far better. And again, I’m sure I will get a little pushback. But you know, if it, if my beating the drum and taking a little heat helps even one person realize that they have a little bit more agency and can do something more beneficial for themselves, so be it.

I’m happy to do it. Well, my sister gets a lot of grief, but I talked to her about, you know, diet and exercise. She goes, sarah, it’s so hard because so many people have been conditioned over the years to just take a pill and to just solve a problem with the pill instead of having to change your lifestyle. Because lifestyle change is hard and it’s boring and it’s so much more exciting that I could just take a shot and lose weight. You know what I mean? But in some ways, in some ways you can. If you detox, it’s easy.

You take a detox and you lose weight. I mean, there’s some detox protocols that are simply just, it’s not that complicated. You or the quantum X or the lilac. It’s not that you just clean up your environment with something that’s simple like this. So in some ways it’s, it’s that easy. But in general approach, you can eat really, really well and go out and run on a tennis court all the time until you’re in great health. Yeah, but you can’t eat like crappy hot processed hot dogs. And cheese and ice cream all day long and then go exercise on a tennis court and think you’re going to be.

No. At some point you have to take responsibility for your actions. Yeah, I would rather be able to eat like crap, but I can’t anymore. Because as you get older, if I sit there and eat hot dogs, processed cheese and ice cream, I feel like crap. I want to do that again. But you can’t. I know some people get to a point where they don’t even like it anymore. Right. Because your body responds and then you like fresh vegetables more. Or you even like. Like chocolate without sugar. I know. I was reading in. I had to read about it because I don’t like it.

Chocolate, like in Europe, they eat plain chocolate without sugar. And that people enjoy it because it’s just normal. You know what I mean? I’m like, if you eat the real chocolate, that’s not so healthy. Put it in the block before. For three minutes at least. Yeah. Well, what does that do to it? Okay. No, that’s interesting. Okay, so we got some chocolate. It’s not healthy for you. You put it in the block and what does that do to it? So it’s been found. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say this kind of harkens back to the video of Philip and I on stage with Todd Shipman where he was having a histamine reaction and then wasn’t having a histamine reaction on his other arm.

The block changes the structure, if you will, at a subtle level. Because if you think of things as tangible and solid, you’re wrong. Right. They aren’t tangible and solid. It’s all literally agglomerations and coalescing of vibrating fields together. And that’s what I mean, we are that every bit of everything is that. And so you don’t have to change all of the components of something. They’re as best I can discern, probably about 20ish different attributes of things. You know, because you have. Things are kind of these pulsating waves, but they’re, you know, spheres that have a chirality and a direction, and they.

They interact with one another in, you know, myriad ways. You don’t have to change everything. You can just change a couple of things. And even just changing a few things will take somebody who has anaphylaxis, in the case of what we did on stage, and eliminate the thing that literally just would have triggered it and make it perfectly fine for their physiology. Because you don’t. You’re what you’re really looking at is the waveform that is you and the waveform that is something else. If they clash together, then you end up with a detrimental kind of interference pattern.

Right? And when you have an interference pattern, it makes the energetics of something low if they’re clashing, right? And so if you can have something that creates a sympathetic resonant field, you increase the amplitude of the waveform, you make it stronger for yourself. So you can. You can make something less detrimental to you one of two ways. You can amp up the benefits in your own physiology, or you can decrease the negativity in something else. It’s kind of like if you walked into a room and you were cold. Well, you can turn up the thermostat and make it hotter in the room, or you can put on a coat.

You know, both have the same net effect, right? You end up being warmer and perceiving yourself as warmer. But you don’t have to completely alter something. It will still look the same, but at a very subtle level, some of the attributes of that waveform are modulated so that they don’t impact your physiology in a negative way. Philip, you were going to mention can you do this on. That is so cool. Can you do it on almost all food that’s supposedly bad for you? Well, first of all, you can, but it’s very important that we don’t claim here that this will happen.

And we can’t make promises at this point because we just don’t have enough data point. And seriously, we don’t have enough data points yet because you know how many foods are out there and you know how many food sensitivities out there, and then there’s actual really hard and rough allergies that people also have or may have. So we literally also under this YouTube video, which you can find on our YouTube channel, to see what happens with this crap test, for example, you know it, it’s out there. You can literally see it for your own eyes. And over 100 people were in that room looking at this.

We still tell people not to do this at home. Of course, everyone can make their own decision. And people do this. And it’s frequently reported that exactly this happens. We had lots of people in the telegram group saying, I could never tolerate lemon. I put lemon in. Now I can drink lemon juice. I have zero issues. We have also data points. So there was a clinic in Germany that did two pilot studies in regards to food sensitivities, and they found a 55 to 85% reduction in allergy and stress response in the human body. And it’s very important.

The way it happened is the substance that people were sensitive to got charged in the block similarly to this experiment. And then it got tested again. And you see this significant reduction in allergy response, which speaks to the fact that everything that was tested, it worked on. Right? And it was gluten, lactose, they tested sugar and several other substances. So it. Yeah, there’s. There’s definitely something there, but we. We still don’t have enough data and it’s not easy to test. And. Yeah, so we’re still working on it, but there’s something there. And you know what? So if you look at water, for example, water changes when you put it in the block, right? And it.

It’s so clear. I mean, the Emot Institute, they. They’ve been selling, reselling our products since two years because they saw how great the blocks work in regards to water, and they’ve never done that with any other technology in the world. So that should show you something. And then, you know, some people said, well, yeah, but the Emoto Institute, I want something from a chemist. And we said, okay, so what could a chemist do? And we were scratching our heads. And then iron. And then a professor had found out at some point if they put zinc under the block and tested the redox potential of zinc before and after, it completely changed afterwards.

So we thought, okay, well, so maybe this. There was a chemist in Germany that then ran the redox potential on multiple different substances, and he found the same thing. And then he did it also on rainwater, for example. And then we said, well, but people are now going to say again, yeah, you did it one before. And after testing, they’re going to say, well, that’s random. And so he repeated it, I think it was 12 times on different days each time it happened. Right. So, well, it’s such a different paradigm. So they try to come up with all these different reasons instead of seeing that testing mechanism being legitimate.

They have to. They have to. You have to prove it to them in their paradigm. Yep, exactly. And, yeah, which is fine. I mean, that’s part of the process, right? It is. It’s usually the science advances, usually after the previous generation dies. And that’s just. That’s the way it is. You know, it’s when the people who, you know, Einstein wrote all of his really seminal works, and, you know, effectively in one year, he wrote these four seminal works, and it was 20 years before people really started paying attention, because most of the people who were in opposition kind of had to Die off.

Yeah, people really cling to what they know. You know, they don’t. I wrote a book about it. I, you know, they don’t want to say, oh, I was wrong. Well, they’re saying Einstein’s theories are wrong and new people. And so now some of that stuff is starting to be challenged. But it’s going to take a whole nother generation for that to even get the light day, probably. Yeah, well, I mean some of these things will be quicker though. Like the stuff that, that Nikola Tesla talked about, for example, were definitely. Nikola Tesla’s view of reality is completely contrary to Einstein’s.

Some of that definitely will show up here very clearly in the next five to ten years, I’m certain. And it will become quite obvious that Nikola Tesla had some. Yeah, I mean he had a pretty good understanding of how reality works, let’s say it that way, and how the ego works. When Einstein was being interviewed and he was asked so what is it like to be the smartest man in the world? And he said, I don’t know, you’ll have to ask Nikola Tesla. Is that what he said? That’s awesome. That’s awesome. Yeah, yeah, that is. I.

That earned huge points in my book. That’s so, so smooth. Well, he, he knew it. That’s he. Yeah, he’s a better guy than people give him credit for, for sayings. And then he also. Velikowski was his, that’s how he pronounced his name, the one that, that talked about the electric universe and what was going on with Mars and Venus. He was a friend of his and at the end of Einstein’s life he wanted to help bring his information to the public, but it never got there because Einstein died before he could actually do that. But it was one of his ending life projects is to make that right and to bring that to the public eye.

Velikowski and I did a interview with his, one of the people that worked with him for years and it’s an old one I got, got canceled off YouTube. I should probably put a link to that one. That one’s cool. But yeah, Einstein, he, he promoted people at the end especially that people were. That others shunned. Well, you know, I mean that’s really, that’s how we do advanced things, right? Is we’re all kind of standing on the shoulders of giants. And when I know you guys know this, but I developed a cancer therapeutic in 2013 and then have subsequently gone back and retooled it and made it, it infinitely better.

But I reached out to, you know, Part of it was a carbon 60 backbone. I reached out to Bob Curl, he was a professor at Rice, who was one of the three guys that got the Nobel Prize. And we became friends. But I called him because he was in his 80s and he had done something truly remarkable. And I just wanted him to know that, you know, like, hey, just let you know that I’m taking the ball and running with it and, you know, I wouldn’t have been able to do this. And hopefully if it goes right, it’ll help a lot of people and.

And, you know, that’s all kudos to you because we literally just kind of push it forward a little bit. It’s an incremental thing. You know, we try and I mean, that’s one of the things I love about working with you, Philip, is like, we are very much moving things forward, but doing it in such a way that we’re trying to benefit people in a positive light. Because some of the study that we’ve done is from a classical standpoint, bizarre, you know, like where we are affecting ATP output by 20 to 29% from hundreds of miles away in a double blind, placebo controlled way.

That’s bizarre. I mean, we did that experiment five different times. Well, six actually, but five we used because one we botched in the lab, but five different times and got the same results every single time. And at the end of that, I think when we actually came out with that data, the one thing that I really wanted to tell people, which is odd for a scientist to be prattling on about, was, look, just be kind to each other because apparently, as we now have data, the waveforms propagate, you know, irrespective of space. It’s. It doesn’t matter how far away you are from somebody, you know, positive intent works.

It makes a difference. And I just, I very much enjoy that. It’s different than a lot of endeavors that I do, you know, so this is quite thrilling. Well, it also proves, and I’m going to go there too. It also proves that prayer can work. Right. And why prayer works. And it’s the positive intent being directed at something that you’re trying to get accomplished. Yeah, I think probably part of the reason that both Philip and I kind of use a lot of David Hawkins work, who was, you know, a lot of your audience probably knows him, was an MD, PhD, who’s really brilliant.

But more importantly, he was a very evolved person. And so much of his work focuses and centers around consciousness and a lot of the effects that we see pretty frequently, I think some people quite literally wouldn’t be able to get. Because the intent matters. You know, if you, if you, if you’re really angry when you do something, you know, and you’re, and you’re prepping food for somebody, it’s going to have a difference, a different effect. Like if you get food from your mom and she’s made it with a lot of love. Sounds silly, but I mean, we can tell you there is a difference.

Right. Fundamentally it changes like the redox potential of things. There’s all these things that we all know just kind of, you know, like if you get a home cooked meal that’s made with love. Yeah, that actually does make a difference. All of these things are impactful and the level of consciousness and awareness that’s behind it, I think unfortunately in the sciences typically gets overlooked because it’s not a cold, hard fact. Well, the reality is if you are on a spinning wheel and you don’t take into account the fact that you’re on a spinning wheel, all of the things that you launch are going to seem different and erroneous in their trajectory.

You have to take into account the fact that we are fundamentally vibrating things with a level of awareness and a consciousness that can either be pointed in a positive direction or pointed in a negative direction. And that sort of azimuth really makes a huge impact on what we do and how we do it. And that’s, you know, again, that’s one of the reasons I like doing this is all of this. And luckily the, you know, the 8,000 member telegram group, it’s all positive. Everybody is there to help to make a difference. And that’s, you know, this is kind of going full circle back to the placebo and nocebo and doing as much as we can to get rid of that nocebo effect and move towards the, you know, the positive intent.

We can just have one week where we focus everything on negative intent and then 51 weeks where we do everything positively like normal. Yeah, exactly. Well, okay, so where can people, I mean, I just love you guys. You’re so amazing. That’s why I’d like to have you on, you know, on a continual basis so people can really understand what you’re about. You’re on the forefront working with some of the best people in the world. I mean, they really are guys. When you’re listening to some of the top in, in 100 years, these guys are the people people are going to be talking about.

I mean, you’re at that level, at the forefront of what’s going on in the world. And so where can people learn more and get the, you know, the Quantum products and the Leva Q and try this and I have a link below. But where. What can you talk a little bit about what you got? Yeah, so I think definitely the links Leelaq.com and for the, for the Quantum upgrade, that’s the remote service we talked about that is quantumupgrade IO and you can just check that out on quantumupgrade IO you can get a free trial and test it for yourself.

Use my code Sarah. And they get the free trial. I think It’s. Yes, probably Sarah 15. You just put it in the show notes and look at. It’ll be in the show notes are on the shop page. Okay. Yep. And then. And you know, check out the telegram group if you’re interested in learning more and maybe asking some other people and just know what were. What’s out there isn’t something that’s difficult to use, that you need to be an expert or that you need to learn how to program a device or something like that. It’s simple.

Every five year old can use this. It’s very, very simple. Now it’ll take time to understand all the things you can do with that. But that’s, you know, something cool actually. Right. That you can still explore more things moving forward. And the telegram groups, I think we can share the links to the telegram group again in the show notes. I will text them to you just in case and yeah, just go from there. Well, thank you so much. I hope you guys have a really good holiday. Have Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. This will air after Thanksgiving but thank you so much for coming on the show.

I get to take a few days off. Yeah, it’ll be a good Christmas. Right. And you guys have Christmas stuff too. And people need to think about this because these are great Christmas options for people as well to have people try this. And it’s, it’s a unique Christmas gift for certain. But it, it’s, that’s what we need to do. We’re moving into a new age. I feel like humanity’s moving into a new age. That’s what it feels like right now. Like it’s officially happening. Name. Yes, that’s correct. Yeah. So thank you so much. You guys have a wonderful day.

Thank you, Sarah. Thank you A. See you Phillips.
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