DOGE: Crime Hysteria bringing the Critics the Fearful – Plus new CDC/Ukraine Crime w/ Dr Fleming

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We have people that are hysterical upset that they’re even auditing things. And they’re coming up with every single obstacle you can possibly think of so that this doesn’t get the light of day, doesn’t shine on this criminal activity. And I got to tell you, I don’t care what you think of musk. You know, I’ve had my questions. You know, a technocracy, right? The technocrats. There’s elements of every kind of government. That’s good. So if it’s about auditing your own federal government, that’s a good part. Now, I don’t want them to audit my entire life. I don’t think citizens should be Audited, tracked and traced.

But I think government should be mean. They need to be accountable to us. So when there’s criminal activity and fraud going on, it’s beautiful to have that being the light of day being shined on that and politicians without that the light of day being shined on it, they have no power. They could, but they don’t have power apparently because it’s been going on for decades. This gives them not only power, but it provides pressure on them to do the right thing. And so it’s beautiful to watch this and USAID and FEMA and I guess the Treasury Department is what we’re seeing in USAID and some other areas is like nothing compared to the fraud and abuse going through that Treasury Department.

And so anybody who’s against this, you got to wonder, you know, you see the hysteria going on at MSNBC and all these other it, why are they having this hysteria? Why would you not want this kind of fraud covered? And know, to be honest, USAID is, has these good fronts for a good criminal enterprise to work. They have a front and the front does good work. And so we don’t want to stop the good work that they’re doing. Right. Let’s be adults and smart. But that whole back criminal activity and enterprise really does need to go away.

And I see it as part of what Trump’s really doing is he’s doing a bankruptcy restructuring, I believe, because we’re seeing gold coming into this country. We’re seeing so many moves that are just unprecedented. And another thing that he’s doing is he’s restructuring the debt with, he’s trying to turn our debt with all these other countries and turn it into a 50 year debt which would decrease our payments by like a trillion dollars a year. So he’s doing this bankruptcy restructuring. Now what does that mean for long term? I don’t know, but that’s what, that’s what’s happening.

And are they, is it risky moves? Yes. And I’m going to be covering them and have Andy Sheckman come back to the program. We’re going to talk about more of this going forward. But Dr. Fleming, we really get into really good information here and you can follow and learn more about him@flemingmethod.com I’ll have the link below and also other links like his Twitter account and stuff. Okay, before we get into this program, I’m going to talk to you about this amazing peptide. It’s five amino, one mq. And I’ve been sharing with people amazing weight loss peptides that are more powerful than Ozempic, but safer.

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Okay, now let’s get into my really good conversation. It’s kind of Long with Dr. Richard Fleming. Hi Dr. Fleming, welcome to the program. How are you? It’s my pleasure to be here. Thank you for the invitation. Yeah, well I, I really wanted to talk to somebody who’s been diving into the Doge efforts and from many different perspectives. I know the usaid, I, you know, USAID has been the most prominent. But there’s been other things that they’ve been pointing at too. And I, you know, there’s people in Congress who’ve been trying to fight to expose this stuff for years and they’re coming out of the woodwork now.

What do you think and what have you found about what Doge is doing and what are some of the big things that are highlighted? Well, I think the number one thing that Doge is doing is it’s upsetting the apple cart, so to speak, with people that have been used to being in control. We all watch year after year as the US Congress gets together and appropriates money and that’s its constitutional power, the power of the purse to raise money. But they’ve been doing it for such a long time and without any oversight and without anybody saying, what are you doing with our money? Because it is our money.

And as people, a number of people have been emphasizing it’s taxation upon U.S. citizens. I mean, we’re either paying it in taxes or we’re paying it in consequences by debt that we’re taking on. All because the people that are supposed to be controlling the purse, the U.S. u.S. Senate, have been appropriating money at ever increasing rates. I mean, some of the numbers here, like USAID as a classic example, in 2021, its budget was 27.2 billion. In 2022, it was 41 billion, and in 2023, it was 60.4 billion. A third of that, more than a third of that went to the Ukraine for efforts that we may or may not want to talk about.

But that’s an example. Nobody’s budget, nobody’s household budget can do that. And certainly the gross domestic product of the United States did not triple in that amount of time. And yet the budget for USAID as an example, because it’s been brought out, has tripled in a couple years. And when Doge goes in and it’s looking at what are they spending the money on? A lot of those programs are not programs that, you know, U.S. citizens would approve of across the board. And, and some of them are downright criminal. Others are promoting ideas and beliefs that Americans don’t believe.

And it’s all under the pretense of, you know, America getting out there and doing something positive, as JFK put USAID out there in 1961. And I’m a JFK beneficiary. You know, Eisenhower and JFK started me on my doctorate program. But when you allow people, elected individuals like the U. S. Senate to run amok with our money and not be held responsible, what you see is the trillions of dollars of debt that we currently have that is drowning the economy of the United States. And it’s also been drowning the future of our children because they don’t have the potential of, of, of surviving this flood of death that’s occurring.

So Doge, what it’s doing right now, it’s very concerning for the elected individuals because they’re saying, well, wait a minute. One elected individual, President Donald J. Trump, has looked at Elon Musk and others and said, okay, go audit, go find out. Now, Americans have been calling for this. Elected officials have been calling for this. But like most things, they don’t want us to investigate something where they are clearly culpable. You know, some of the hearings that I’ve been listening to in Congress over the last couple years, we need to investigate. Eco Health alliance was an example.

We need to be auditing what EcoHealth alliance is doing. We need a, an agency to do that. And my, I was sitting here listening to these debates or discussions or whatever we’re calling them and my thought was, no, Senator, we don’t need another body of bureaucrats. Your job, Senator, was to oversee this. Don’t pass the, the buck. Don’t blame it on, and don’t get me wrong, I have no love loss for, for Dasak and, and his work at Eco Health alliance. But it was Congress’s responsibility to watch this money. It was Also Anthony Fouch, Dr. Anthony Fauci’s responsibility to watch this money.

You don’t get to write a check that the people write the check and then the government just passes the money through and nobody seems to care. What? Well, you know, you knew they were in on it and you know, I was looking at the USAID stuff and there were millions of dollars given to supply chain management of where they were sending drugs to other countries and only 7% of the drugs came at all or were on time. Well, so when, yeah, and you know, the United States is a major source of profit for drug companies, for big pharma.

You know, the United States, when, when we’re looking at what happens in health care. The US buys half the drugs in the world, but we account for 90% of the profit. So explain to me why our government, when, when we have people at HHS hearings and they talk about we need to bring down the price of drugs. Explain to me why our government has not done something more to address the price of drugs for Americans. When we account for half the drugs but 90% of the profit, that means other countries are doing something our government isn’t doing.

And you know, big pharma, big ag and big government has been allowed to run amok and you know, they profit off each other and they’re profiting off us off the backs of American citizens. I know that there are groups of people for years that have taken trips to Canada to get their drugs because they simply cannot afford it. There’s busloads of people, they, it’s like an annual thing or every six months and they go to Canada, get their stuff, come back and it’s a service to these people because they can’t afford their own drugs. These are the kinds of things that they’re forcing Americans to do at the expense of Americans.

Right. And most, a lot of Americans can’t afford or don’t have a passport to travel abroad to get. Get their drugs. Right? Yeah, I mean, that’s, that’s so. That’s even worse. Exactly. You know, we have a system. I used to tell people that there’s only three. All the drugs that are made get funneled through three major companies. One of those passes on the radioactive drugs for imaging, and the other two pass on most of the drugs to us. So all the drugs are made by certain companies. Pfizer, Moderna, Janssen, Merck, Sharp Dome, you name it. And by the way, out of my fellowship, Big Pharma tried to recruit me to go do some very profitable jobs that I refused to do because I just did not want to be a part of that.

But there would have been a very lucrative way, I suppose, to live financially. And. But they all come through a couple secondary vendors and then they go out to all the different pharmacies. And so I would tell patients, listen, here’s drug A within our city. If you were to ask all the pharmacies across the city what it will cost you for this drug, the lowest and the highest will be a difference of a factor of two. So the lowest one would be half the price of the highest one. And it’s the same drug from the same company going through the same, you know, co op, so to speak.

So this is an example of a lot of people profiting off Americans and the hard work of most people. And then you look at the cost of insurance companies and insurances and Medicare and Medicaid. And Medicare. And Medicaid does a lousy job of taking care of, of patients. And a lot of doctors want nothing to do with it because what they really do is they lowball everything and they make it impossible for the doctors or the hospitals to survive. So what happens to the rest of the insurance companies? Those prices go up because the hospitals have to compensate somehow to actually do it.

So the mess that CMS is, the Centers for Medicaid Services, Medicare and Medicaid has, by thinking that they’re playing this cute game with doctors and hospitals, has resulted in the vast majority of Americans paying these overly expensive health care premiums and then expensive deductibles to go along with it. And that drives up the cost of health care. It drives up the cost of primary business, private businesses, because health insurance is something that people need as so one of their benefits that they get. This is a system that is, you know, to, to speak to Bernie Sanders this is a system that is broken and it’s an important system to wrap and get control of somebody like Bernie Sanders who’s been in office his whole entire adult life.

Yeah. You know, we have these senators who have been in office for 30, 40 years. At what point do they start to look at themselves and say, maybe I’m partially responsible here. Exactly. You know, the Founding Fathers are very clear. They thought that going into the federal government was something you did for a brief period of time. Even Washington was only going to serve one term as president because he thought nobody should serve, you know, more than that. And then he saw the fight that was going on, so he stuck around for another term. Right. To try to calm things down in Washington, D.C.

this was in the 1700s. But the founding Fathers are very clear. Listen, go to Washington, work for the people for a while, and then get out of Washington and go home. And most people will tell you when they’ve been to Washington D.C. and I’ve been there way too many times, that there is so much under. Dealing going on and, and behind the scenes, who’ getting what from whom? Nobody’s asking the question, what about the American people? Right. Yeah, they don’t. The American people get rich. Right. Because there’s representatives and Congress people that go in on what they make, 180,000 a year, and they come out having $50 million or something within a period of eight years or whatever it is.

I mean, how is that possible if you’re not somehow taking bribes and things? You, you’ve some. So, yeah, and you’ve got to be connected somehow. And I’ve watched this all the way. I, I can definitely say I can, I, I can date it back to Obama because Podesta, when he was running the transition team for Obama, stepped forward and asked me and other physicians to hold town hall meetings of what Americans wanted for health care. And I issued a report that went back to him. It’s actually in that, in that last book, the Are we the Next Endangered Species? I actually included in there the first time what the American people wanted for health care and what types of changes that we should see.

And I will bet you any amount, and I don’t bet, I’m not a betting man. So it’s, it’s just a phrase. But I will bet you whatever you want to metaphorically bet that they will do nothing to bring these costs down or to really deal with the needs of the American public, because as long as they, our elected officials can pretend that they’re doing something for you and Maybe give you a little bit here and there. As long as they can keep making their deals with the people they’ve been making their deals with, they will continue become very wealthy people.

In the end, they don’t. And that’s why they don’t care if they take down the country. They don’t care what they do. Now, do you think that with all this exposure, I mean, another thing came out, FEMA paid, I believe it was 55 million. That’s about the right them up just last week for immigrants in New York. I mean, and this is on the back of, not of telling the people in North Carolina that they didn’t have the money to give them any more than what, 700 bucks a piece and they were kicking them out of their small houses and they’re just brutalizing these people.

And they were giving that much money to, to immigrants just last week. I mean, this is this kind of stuff that’s being exposed. Do you think they’ll be able to sweep this under the rug and not make any of these cuts and not do anything based this kind of exposure coming out? The only reason that we will make any change is because we’ve got Elon Musk and the others in there with Doge going in and exposing this in the light of day. You know, we’re housing people that aren’t even supposed to be in this country while people affected by the hurricane, while the people in Lahaina all suffer, while military men and women that are retired out of the service are living homeless in the streets of LA and other places around the country.

Something that I’ve incorporated into what I would address as director of OSTP if President Trump asked me to, is to actually bring our men and women that are homeless into the ostp, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, to retrain them and to allow them to continue forward in the skill sets that we started to provide for them. But what we’ve done is we’ve abandoned them. They’re living homeless, their families are broken up, while we house people in the country illegally instead of taking care of the people, that these are American citizens, it makes us mad.

When I hear it makes you mad, it is infuriating. Keep going. When I hear people quote the Constitution and say that these illegal immigrants have certain rights in the country. No, they don’t. The Constitution provides rights to the people of the United States, not to the people visiting. You know, I don’t get to take my passport and go over to Germany and just insert myself into German society and get all the benefits of it and then abuse its people. Well, I guess some people can, but we’ll get more benefits than the people that are living there.

Exactly, exactly. And I do have a soft heart for people that are running from persecution and in places that they have no, you know, they’re in pure utter poverty, can’t feed themselves, persecution, that kind of stuff. Because that’s what a Christian person should do, is help those that are really hurting. But we’ve gone way beyond that. Well, that’s not what we’re doing when we’re housing people in New York hotels and nothing else. We’re not helping them. We are bringing them in and allowing them to run amok. That is not the function of the United States. Okay, I have a question.

Yeah, it isn’t. Okay, I have a question. There’s journalists that are freaking out and saying that Doge is a Trojan horse. And I’m really confused about this stuff because I understand the technocratic takeover that, you know, that it’s warning of us with the World Economic Forum and technocrats and automating all and tracking everything that we’re doing and stuff. But how in the world can it be bad to put a high a spotlight on all this corruption? This is what we absolutely need to do. And it seems like they’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It’s not.

They’re being irresponsible and not looking at a good part. I mean, we should be adults, right, and be able to say, okay, this is really good. We need to support this and be active citizens. And then when we start seeing something that cuts, goes over the line as far as starting to take away our freedoms, then we. We push back. I mean, what do you think? Yeah. The reality is if. If the journalists want to be upset because Elon Musk and the others in Doge are coming in and they weren’t elected, that’s fine. Get upset. Monitor them like a hawk.

You know, maybe the problem here is that the journalists aren’t turning around and looking at our elected senators and representatives and say, why don’t you people start doing your job? Beat Doge to the punch. I mean, I’ve got records that I know Doge won’t see unless they ask me for on Ukrainian. And we talked about we don’t want to get into Covid because we beat this. Yeah, I don’t want to talk too much about COVID because it’s like, my God, Covid. It’s just been this lingering nightmare, but there’s bioweapons Labs in Ukraine. Right. And there, there, you know, there are involved in that.

Right. The United States was very much involved in that. And one of the things that Doge will not find is that the U.S. department of Defense paid $419,511 to Ukrainian labs for a report on Covid seven weeks before anybody heard about Wuhan. So In November of 2019, the U.S. department of Defense paid $419,511 to Ukrainian labs for a report on COVID 19. So the crime, See, the crime is just so overwhelming and this shining this kind of light. Now, are you going to provide that information to them? So I will. I mean, it’s a matter of, you know, I’ve been reaching out for some point in time.

I included in this second book the actual documents on that. And the reason for that in the, in the, in, in the final book, in this last book is because Skyhorse Publishing reached out to me and said, we go through everything. There’s something here we can’t find, and it’s that DoD money. When you go to the DoD website, it’s been changed. They altered it. They altered it. That’s what I call now. I have the CDC doing that, too. That is something that, yes, the CDC has done that. NIH has done that. DOD has done that. Some of those records aren’t there.

I, you know, again, I’m happy for DOGE to, to talk to me and, and get these records or get the book and use the QR code, however you want to do it. But this was an example of me knowing to go look for this material because I knew they would destroy it. I’ve been involved with the government just a little while now behind the scenes, and I know how records disappear and I know there’s HHS documents that are disappearing and have been disappearing. You can’t find something once it’s deleted. And DOGE is going to need that information.

But the critical point here is, if you’re the good guy, you don’t delete the records, do you? You want those. You don’t need to. That’s exactly right. And if you miss something, you work to fix it. And we’re not all perfect. And the thing is massive. But Abs. Absolutely. So these are examples of monies that clearly went out the door. And some of this was USAID money, some of it was DOD money. I mean, there are multiple federal agencies that have been involved. And what are we looking at Ukraine now? Almost 200. Is it billion dollars? And what would it take? 5.

Is it 5 billion to repair Lahaina? How much would it take us to pick up North Carolina and the other places that were there? I mean, clearly there’s money out there. Now. The problem is that once Congress appropriates it, you know, it kind of has to go somewhere. So, so good. I’m sorry to give. Congress is so good at acting like they care, but at this point, it’s, it’s looking like they really don’t care about you because they come out with millions in their pocket. They’re allowing this to happen. They’re allowing the, you know, people who are suffering in this country to not get what they need.

And they’re sending hundreds of billion dollars to Ukraine with, without ever doing a realistic negotiation to make sure that war doesn’t start in the first place. I mean, it’s just, it’s not that that money, Black and Veatch. You know, there’s. There was money up front that, that and, and that 4, 19, 5, 11 that went through Black and Beach and Labyrinth and Metabiota to those Ukrainian labs. Now tell me you don’t recognize what those names are connected with. Right. And for your viewers, and if I have the Biden administration and the Biden family, that’s, you know, and now those records have been wiped clean.

Yeah, they’re deleted. Which is deleting a crime scene, which is a crime itself. Yeah. And that’s exactly what I pointed out in the book, that this, this goes to and in, in criminal law under the federal rules of evidence. Sorry to bore Everybody. Under Rule 406, when a behavior is constantly exhibited by somebody, that behavior pattern you can bring into court and say it’s the behavior of the federal government to eliminate records when they know they’ve done something wrong. We need an accountability dodge is just. Doge is just the first example for the people that want to talk, talk about journalism if they want to be real journalists.

I went to the University of Iowa for College of Medicine and they had a great journalism colle there. And the function of a journalist is to dig into the truth and to expose in light of day, wrongs. So if they’re a serious journalist out there and they’re complaining about Trojan horses, maybe they need to go see where the real Trojan horses are. Maybe they need to go talk to their senator and their representative. They’re all in Washington D.C. right now. Pay them a visit and start asking questions about the monies that they’ve approved appropriated and how those monies are actually being spent.

Have you followed up on that money? Did you actually read Any of those thousand page bills that you signed overnight into law to see what we’re really spending our money on. Because you’re the one that’s responsible Congress, not some other committee. It shouldn’t be up to Doge to come in and audit what should already be there. Why hasn’t the US Military provided an audit on where it’s spending its money? How convenient is that? That the United States Department of Defense doesn’t have to explain what it’s doing with our money. Yeah, it’s all dark money and stuff.

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But I’m not against everything in our government being tracked and traced. I think it’s the American citizens that shouldn’t be tracked and traced. The freedom is for us as individuals. That government, every single thing it does needs to be exposed because that’s how things work. So there’s nothing wrong about tracking and tracing them. I just don’t want to be tracked and traced. And I don’t think citizens should be. I think that, you know, that that discussion right there shows a real problem with American thinking. The U.S. government works for us. We don’t work for the U.S.

government. We’re actually the bosses and we’ve been abdicating our job and allowing people we elected that were then supposed to take responsibility. Well, nobody checked in on them, so they’re not respons responsible to us. It’s our money that’s going in to be spent. We have a right to say, what are you doing with our money? Period. They’re not. The US Government isn’t giving us money. You know, when people get tax returns, that’s not the US Government giving us money. That’s because we gave them more to begin with. By the way, just straight off the bat, we shouldn’t have a federal income tax at all.

In my opinion. We didn’t have one prior to World War I. You know, I would be in value in favor of a value added tax. And, and you know, if you buy something, I mean, I can’t think of something more fair than that. If you buy something more expensive, you pay more. Something less expensive, you pay. But this concept of taxing Americans for what they earn, it hurts Americans because they’re not getting the money that they earn. It hurts businesses because then they have to pay out that money and they have to pay additional money for what.

I have no reason why the federal government thinks it has the right to do that. We should have a value added tax. I mean, we had the Boston Tea Party for this right. Taxation without representation. Okay, guess we’re represented. But as you know, we’re talking in this program not well, not well, not too well. You know, it’s not the American people that seem to be represented right now. It seems to be the big power sources that are that are potentially lining the pocket of some politicians. I’m not going to say all of them because, you know, it takes a while for them to get warmed up in Washington D.C.

and I suppose they want to get reelected simply because now that once they learn where the profitable areas are, they want to stay there. I would argue that if we’re going to have term limits. We really should have term limits. You go do your job, do it a couple of terms and then get the heck out of there. Because you probably don’t have any new ideas coming in. You don’t have any new real life experience coming into it. Well, you know, as, as, yeah, they’re in there for 40 years and they’ve never worked a job in their life or very little.

You know, I mean, they have no real work experience. Yeah, you know, I, I come. If I were to go director of OSTP, I would be bringing my PhD in physics, my MD as a nuclear cardiologist, and my JD with me. And if you think that I would want to go in there and spend more than a decade and, and that’s stretching it working in that area, you would have another thing coming as, as my parents would say, because I don’t want to go in there and, and live with a group of people that have this narrow a mindset.

You stagnate when you do that. When you go into a group of people who only are focusing on one thing, you stagnate. That’s all you learn. There’s no new ideas, there’s no new approaches. I think the problem is that Doge comes in with a perspective of, well, we haven’t been here, we haven’t been bought. And it’s kind of hard to buy the guy who’s got more money than anybody else. Now. It’s probably not impossible, but, you know, I mean, I don’t think there’s a big motive there. Right. I don’t know. I think that’s arguable. But still, what he’s doing is pretty good.

Keep going. Yeah, and monitor him. Monitor him. I mean, you know, for crying out loud, if you think there’s a Trojan horse, get in there and monitor him. Actually participate in the game. It’s kind of like any sports game. Get in there and be part of the team. You want to be a journalist that talks about a Trojan horse or something going on? Get in there and monitor the people. Go with them. You know, don’t, don’t whine outside of a building because you can’t get into the building and participate. Give them coverage. I’m sure they’ll give you information.

If you’re really good journalist, get in there to Congress. It’s supposed to be our Congress, and start asking these people what the heck they’re doing. And by the way, do it in your states with your Governors and your AGs, in your states and your mayors and, and Your council people go monitor these people. Because if you think that the, the, the exorbitant use of our money sits alone at the federal government, I would argue you’re dead wrong. You know, corruption, you know, absolutely. Power corrupts. Absolutely. Right. And it’s this lack of tendency. It’s this perspective that somebody else is going to do it for us.

Right. We’ll go once every two years, once every four years. We’ll vote for people and they’ll be responsible to us. Well, why would they? If they, if they, if history shows them that the American people will not demand accountability on their part, why should we expect that they’re going to be accountable to us? That’s right. It’s more effort. Why? And it just makes no sense. Right. Yeah. As. Go ahead. As we, as we talked about before the program, it was that famous quote from, from Dr. Franklin where the woman says, what form of government did you give us, Dr.

Franklin? He says, a republic, madam, if you can keep it. You know, I. 250 years ago, these people were smarter than we are now. You know, I think we have a. Quite a bit, we have dumbed down quite a bit and, and this tendency to believe that if everybody, we don’t have to do anything and everybody’s just going to look out for us. No, that’s not how this works. You know, parents are supposed to care for their children more than anybody else will care for that child. Your parent. My parents cared more about me, my and my siblings, I think, than anybody else did.

I care more about my children than I think anybody else does. I tell people I’ll maim for my sons, I’ll kill for my daughter. You don’t think that’s true? Test the water. That’s right. But we have to take and watch the people we get elected and we’re, we’re very big on lip service in this country where we say, well, we’ll just not vote you back in. Well, I see what people that I would consider less than completely ethical getting voted in again and again and again. Why? I don’t know. Probably because they have more money than anybody else and they have people that say, listen, we’re going to do this to get you elected.

I mean, we saw this controlled the media for the longest time time and you know, was such a great cover. The media that needs to go look at, at the, at the amendments to the Constitution and the power of, of the right of, of the press and the responsibility of the press. You know, you don’t get a, you don’t get a right without a responsibility. And that’s what everybody. I. A lot of people never speak in absolutes. A lot of people forget, you know, you want to be taking credible. Stand up, take the shots, but do the job.

That’s right. And they’re not. They’re like, right now, they’re just running around like a bunch of lunatics. Yeah. Acting like instead of actually looking at what’s being exposed, they’re running around like a bunch of lunatics is saying how bad the people who are doing it, the exposing art. It’s like, why aren’t you looking at the fact that all the billions of dollars are being thrown away for crime? I mean, this USAID and all these other organizations, all these NGOs are front organizations for crime. Right. The front, though, the good part, we need to carve out and keep doing or, you know, analyze some of those.

Absolutely. You know, usaid, and I say it that way versus usaid, because it’s, it’s not aid, it’s an agency. United States Agency for International Development. You think about that. We haven’t really been doing a good job of using USAID to internationally develop diddly squat. Okay. We, we’ve done a lot of nonsense with it, but we haven’t, we haven’t aided anybody. Right. We haven’t. Oh, come on. A comic book for transgender. Whatever, that’s important, you know, and, and, and tell me why that’s really important and, or matters. But I know that that’s kind of a social perspective.

But the reality is, you look at the money and what we spent it on, and it hasn’t been for the good of the United States, and it hasn’t been for the good of the world when, when the motivation for USAID was, well, if we don’t do it, the Russians will get in there. You know what? Maybe it’s time we allow the Russians to spend some of their money, I guess, on a comic book for whatever. But I don’t think they’re going to be stupid enough to do the. Yeah, I don’t think they’re. They’re, they’re, they’re gonna.

If they spend that money. You know, the reality is there are things that are good about that. You know, I, I will still argue that the Peace Corps organized by JFK was an outstanding thing. Well, we have the Peace Corps. When we went over, when our young people went over, which meant they were willing to work. Right. They were putting in time for a benefit, and we taught people how to read, how to grow plants, how to dig wells. There weren’t a lot of countries who hated the United States. They would look at us and go, these are the people coming over and helping us to become educated, to learn to feed ourselves self sufficient so that the world is a more peaceful place when there’s more self sufficient good citizens around the world.

Absolutely. And if you want to take and bring peace and prosperity, you do that by feeding people and teaching them how to do that. You don’t, by the way, have peace in an area by watching a hurricane come in and then not take care of them. Right. Fema, just a message out there for you, you know, Americans, what happened to that? What happened to Americans? You know, I don’t want to hear $754 or whatever it is. That is just a stupid conversation. That is, it’s just, you get fema, you get trucks, you get food, you get water and you take it there.

Yeah, well, they’re still suffering to this day while they’re paying, you know, the Treasury Department. I’ve been reading that the amount of stealing and fraud and grift going through the Treasury Department pales in comparison to what we’re seeing so far. And they want to expose a lot of that as well. And there are people going absolutely berserk and coming up with all these reasons why they should not be able to. I, I think the, the, our data, I mean, there’s a way to look at metadata and not expose those people’s data. I think that’s an excuse to keep us from diving into the level of fraud.

I mean, people have no idea how much fraud is really going on. I mean, just taking care of this stuff and we give it back to the people, we could be a really prosperous country. We’re not prosper. We are, but we’re not. The people are not getting any. I mean, we’re just, we’re suffering. I’m not suffering, but a lot of people are suffering. All the people that are arguing about this being a bad thing to do for Doge to be investigating this needs to need, they need to get up off their little bottoms, collectively go together and start doing the audits themselves, Beat Doge to the punch, go find, have access to it.

They’re saying that them having access to it is the problem, but having the engineers look at metadata isn’t a problem. I mean, that’s, that’s a good thing. Yeah. You’re stripping, you’re, you’re stripping the identity of it. Is, is, is the importance of metadata, right? Yes. So that you’re Not. Yeah, it’s still private. You look at metadata, you look for the patterns, and then once you see the criminal pattern, then you go get your warrant and then you really go into it. That. Right, that’s, that’s how it’s done. And it’s. What’s wrong with that? Yeah, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that because you’re not looking at anyone in particular and you’re not causing someone to commit a crime, are you? You’re looking for people that, you know.

You’re not even looking for criminals up front. You’re just simply saying, where’s our money going? And it’s when you’re confronted with the, oh, my Houston, we have a problem, that you then have to sit down and go. Another person or group doing something they shouldn’t have done and complaining about it means you don’t want to catch these people. Or maybe you’re benefiting from it. I mean, what’s going on there? Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, there’s, there’s a good question, you know, are, Are you covering up. Up for somebody else? I’m not saying people are, but it raises the question, doesn’t it? Because if you’re a good person, you don’t try to hide things.

You know, if you want to know what happened in my case, it’s all laid out on plumbingmethod.com you can listen to a judge say, the jury doesn’t need to know the truth. The wool can be pulled over their eyes. That’s a little surreal when you hear it. I mean, Doge should probably get in, in, in start investigating some of our federal judges and seeing just what’s going on, the scenes and, and the criminality of, of that. I mean, we’ve got it. It’s rampant in the United States. And that’s part of the problem where you have to have that Christians say come to Jesus moment.

Right? We, we kind of have to look at things and, and perspective wise and say, maybe there’s a problem here that we need to fess up to if we’re going to solve it. If the United States wants to be the, the shiny city on the hill. Hill, we’re going to have to act like the shiny city on the hill. You don’t get this by being the rust bucket in, in, in the dump, you know, right now. Yeah, right now we’re not even getting close to that. But if you turn on MSNBC or something, you, you, you would think that there was these people were.

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There’s nothing wrong, nothing to see here. It’s the wizard of Oz. Don’t look behind the curtain. Never mind the man spinning the wheel. There’s nothing here. Go, go, go. Go back. You know, and for a lot of people, they don’t want to experience the discomfort of dealing with the fact that the United States of America has been compromised for a while. For a long time. For a long time. You know, and I, as I pointed out again in this last book, are we the next endangered species? I walk you through 170 years of American history. That is not a comfortable walk for people to go through.

Where you will see the government, compromised medicine, compromised laws changed, compromised a eugenics program that’s been pushed across the board. Bioweapons development, that’s been pushed across the board. People can deny it, they can ignore it, but the truth of the matter is we’re here today dealing with these issues because of biological weapons that were built and funded, including by USAID. That’s right. Right. That killed 1.2 million Americans. That’s more dead Americans than the US military has lost since 1776. Well, so far I’m right. But more than we’ve lost in all of our wars combined. So it’s not a minor thing.

This is a major thing and it is a criminal action for sure. You know, and everybody involved with it is criminally responsible. And so about Robert Kennedy Jr. Who was just confirmed today, this will air out air tomorrow. But what do you think of that? Do you think he’ll be able to bring some sanity to making sure that, that vaccines will at least be safe before they’re given to people and that people aren’t going to be forced to take things that they don’t feel comfortable with. So to begin with, number one, there’s a, a federal case, cruise and be Missouri that was heard by the Supreme Court of the United States.

And, and I don’t know nobody else is mentioning this case unless they hear me talk about it, where the Supreme Court of the United States said no American adult who’s competent can be forced to take a treatment they do not want. Now that’s the law of the land because the Supreme Court ruled on it some time ago. What Bobby does, and I know him personally and, and I communicate with him on different issues personally, what he can or can’t do, I’ve certainly assisted behind the scenes. And that’s again, one of the reasons why I’m trying to have download that President Trump seriously consider me for this director of ostp because I can aid and assist through that position.

What Bobby does not have, scientifically or medically, what he needs to know, what we need to sort through in the details, it is possible to do this correctly, where we look at what’s actually happened with not only biological viruses being developed, but genetic vaccines being developed and a host of other medical problems that are critical to get under control. So, you know, time’s going to tell how much he’s allowed to do things and how much he’s not allowed to do things. And I think when I listen to some of the discussion when he went through the, the, the Finance committee and it was 14, 13, that discussion eventually filtered down to he wasn’t going to be allowed to do anything on the vaccines unless he got somebody else’s approval.

Well, it’s crazy. I mean, what kind of mental case is okay? And I’m going to say that like that is okay. Forcing a vaccine onto people without making sure that that medical treatment is safe. Well, with something like that, I mean, that’s a fundamental problem. And yes, so totally anti human. One of the things that I emphasized early on back in 2021 was I took the EUA data, the emergency use authorization data, and I looked at the Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen vaccines, and I maybe did it opposite of what everybody else wanted to because I’ve heard this criticism.

Well, Fleming should have done the statistics differently. No, the way I asked the question, the statistics were done correctly. But you could ask the question differently. The way everybody wants to talk about it is how many times did the vaccines fail? And that’s not. Not how I approached the question. The way I approached the question was take the EUA data and I asked the question, how often did people not get sick in the vaccinated and unvaccinated group, how often did they not get sick? You mean the way everybody not get sick. Can I ask clarify. Not get cold or not have a side effect? Right.

So we’re not diagnosed with COVID I mean, they might have gotten, you know, they might have gotten an infection, but they were never diagnosed with COVID They didn’t get enough. Right. So how effective were these things? Okay, keep going. Well, see, that’s. That’s the way I approached it, which is to say, okay, if the purpose is to keep you from getting sick, let’s ask the question statistically. Let’s compare the vaccinated unvaccinated and say, how often did you not get sick? And when you do that, statistically, there wasn’t any difference. Now, when you flip it the other way, wasn’t there what aren’t they.

Isn’t there a difference? Now, looking at Kirsch’s day as Steve Kirsch, they actually get sick more. But anyways, so. So the data’s variable. The data is variable. And it. And so I’m not gonna. I’m not. It’s not a pan sweep. And so the scientist in me won’t. Won’t do a pan sweep because it’s not that. That simplistic. But the way everybody wants to ask the question was, was there a difference in the people who got sick? Right. That’s. Those are the numbers that statistically looked like there was a benefit. How many of you got sick? Well, in my mind, that means it failed.

So why would I want to ask the question from. Let’s look at how many times it failed? Because the purpose of giving a treatment is to succeed. So I statistically asked it from the. Let’s look at it statistically from the. How often did each group get the results you wanted, which was to not get Covid? And it wasn’t statistically. Different. And so I pointed that out. And then I’ve also pointed out, you know, if we look at the excess deaths that occurred in, in, you know, the 2022, 2023, using CDC data, which was very good data, there was 650,000 excess deaths that occurred.

And they were all, as I talked about before the program, this inflamothrombotic response disease, which meant heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, the consequences of inflammation and blood clotting, which is what causes chronic diseases. Or they had diseases like Alzheimer’s diseases, which is a prion disease. And we know from the work that our group did that the spike protein causes prion disease, like mad cow disease. And we also published something that nobody wants to talk about, but it got published in the peer review medical research. It took 14 months to do it, where I took the vaccines and I took human blood under a microscope and I added the vaccines to, to the blood of every one of the patients, Janssen Moderna, Pfizer, to each patient that we had.

And every time we did that, the blood turned gray in about 15 to 20 seconds and it clotted. Yeah, that’s not normal because we, we added other things to the blood that didn’t do that. So the bottom line, are they going to be allowed to deal with this or is it going to be. There’s. They’re too blackmailed, they’re too much money, they’re too bought off by big pharma. So they won’t do the basic things. The American people need to be healthy. I mean, because giving a vaccine that is not effective, that is dangerous, because. And they’re refusing to do the proper studies and testing, that’s just not right for the American people.

That’s not right for anybody. And you have to be pretty bought off to allow that kind of situation to continue. I mean, I’m being honest. No, my, my, No, I, I agree. Why is that not obvious? I mean, make sure it’s safe before it goes out. And why is this even a political conversation? I agree. Listen, I have repeatedly said and tried to explain that President Donald J. Trump is not a scientist, he’s not a physician. You know, neither is Bobby. But I, I think it’s just my opinion that Trump had no idea what he was up against.

And by the way, that director of OSTP is a critical job, critical piece of the data, because when you look in here, there’s actually the entire pivotal point of everything lies in the director of OSTP’s report early on where he took the, in the virus from Being a lab creation to being natural. When the story changed, this was the director of OSTP who did it. And that’s White House letterhead that he wrote this on. So this position was critical and Trump was dependent upon the people in the positions to be truthful. Here’s. Well, and it doesn’t take somebody with a Ph.D.

to, to say that it needs to be safe before we mandate it, I mean. Oh, absolutely. It doesn’t take anybody that, you know, my, an elementary school kid could probably figure that out. Right? You know, kid could. The two smartest people on the planet I ever met was a woman with a 12th grade education and a man with an 8th grade education. And they would have told you that. And those were my parents. Yeah, they were smart enough. Right. But, but it’s because it’s common sense. This doesn’t take these geniuses to do something now, right? To actually get the studies and to do it and figure it out.

Maybe. Yeah. But once you have the data and you get. That’s not genius level stuff here, guys. Some of it’s pretty, pretty fundamental. I mean, one of the cutest comments I heard from somebody was that they had a CS degree, a common sense degree, you know, and, and, well, that’s why, that’s why a lot of the, the trade workers were probably the smartest ones when it came to Covid. They were just looking at everything from a, they weren’t brainwashed by anything and they’re the ones saying, I don’t want anything to do with this stuff. I think they were just because it was common sense, it wasn’t like they were being overly theoretically confused.

Yeah, the, the biggest problem is that these vaccines took the genetic sequences from a man made virus and put those into the vaccine. So the virus was a bioweapon by definition. I don’t care who you are, you can argue it and I, and I’ll just simply quote the 1975 Biological Convention Treaty, the 1989 Anti Terrorism act, and the 201218 USC Section 175 that define them as bioweapons. And if you take them out of a cave and you put them in a lab, they’re by definition of bioweapons. You don’t get to change the definitions. And if you take that same code sequence and you stick it into a genetic sequence in a vaccine and you inject it into people.

The difference was, is that people who got the viruses got hundreds or thousands of virus particles. There were billions of code sequences in those genetic vaccines. Because I worked out the Math, scientifically, to point out billions. So you, you, you, you played out for yourself. You take it. A healthy person who can develop an immune response, which one will they make more of an inflamma thrombotic response to thousands or billions? The billions which came in the genetic vaccines. Okay, so is there a problem with MRNA technology? No, there’s not. It’s like a gun, it’s like a car.

It’s like anything else. The technology isn’t the problem, it’s what you do with it. And what they did with it was they took the genetic sequences of bioweapons and they put in there and then injected it into people. Well, it screwed up the notion of MRNA going forward, though, because now nobody trusts it. I shouldn’t say nobody but large segments of population doesn’t trust. But it, but it’s not going to stop it because it’s already moving forward. No, I know, because they don’t care. I mean, not that I don’t know if it should go forward or not, but they don’t care.

They haven’t addressed these concerns that, that we have. I mean, the fact that there’s this much power where they did what they just did and they’re not addressing, it’s really disturbing to people like me who watch congress just move forward and not care. I mean, it’s like really like you just said, 1.2 million people. It’s. It. The not caring is so bad. It’s like having parents that abuse their children and then throw them in the dumpster or something. I mean, I don’t know. It’s just so bad. Yeah. So you, you asked do I think that. That Bobby will.

Will make a difference on the vaccines, and I’m going to answer that. That honestly. No, I don’t. Will he try? I don’t think so. Well, then what’s he going to do? Good question. Focus on. I mean, I’m. I’m saying other things we can clean up, but it’s. I’m. I’m saying that for two reasons. First off, because I think it’s true. Secondly, I’d like somebody to try to get so ticked off with me that they will push to make sure that something happens, in which case I win either way. I like that. Get really mad at you for saying that and make it happen.

Absolutely. Try. You know, attack me. I’m used to it. My mother used to say if people were attacking her, they were leaving other people alone. So bring it on, folks. Come attack me, Prove me wrong. Otherwise I get to sit here and say I told you up front that this the way this, I mean did. The senator doctor from Louisiana forgot his name, who chaired the committee, decided to make it 14 to 13 to move Bobby forward to the full senate confirmation. And his statements were very clear. He had been assured that nothing would happen to vaccines without congress and the other people getting to, to weigh in on it and be part of the decision.

That statement then told me there is not going to be any independent activity. Well, I think that they have a right to have their vaccines that aren’t proven, but we should have a right to not have to have them and take them if they’re not proven. You’re speaking to some on yeah. And it’s a way that, that’s forced on these elementary school kids from day one is, is a forcing people to do something against their will. You’re speaking to someone who was not vaccinated. Yeah. So but if it’s not proven then you should not be forced to take it.

Yeah, I think you’re doing that, then there’s something wrong with you. But go yeah, there, there, there are emergency use drugs that you do for people that have cancer and they’re dying. And you go we don’t have the full data but you know this is an orphan drug that we’re, you know, or, or, or emergency use. But that’s not what we called this, was it? That’s not what we called this. And, and you know there was such a push and I point out in the book, you know how these two technologies, how the bioweapon and the, and the genetic vaccines got merged together and this was both groups independent of each other, just suddenly realizing the advantage of what they were going to get to do and to push forward.

And, and they profited from it and they got paid by U S. Taxpayers dollars that, that we would have questioned I think in most instances about that. And Donald Trump is not a scientist, not a doctor. He desperately needs someone, I would say like myself. It sounds very self serving. Sorry if it does. Who would go in there and say, you know, you may not like what I have to tell you Mr. President but my job is to tell you the truth. If you don’t like it. Yeah. Think of me like your dad didn’t want. Yes.

People around them, I mean people that help stuff done right. You want team players, you want people that sabotage, but you sure the heck will sabotage if you’re a yes person. You could be sabotaging it too. You need people who are a true team player player who will tell you like it is, but then get behind it once the decisions are made or say, I’m sorry, absolutely. But where can people find your information and buy your book and support you and follow you on this nomination? I don’t know if you’re nominated yet, but I know that you’ve been suggested behind the scenes.

Right? I mean there’s. So every Republican senator has, has received materials on this. The OSTP committee has. Senator Grassley has nominated me. It’s gone through, Mr. Lutnick. It’s gone through. Bobby supposedly has, has passed it forward. It was given to him. A variety of individuals have, have funneled it that direction. Fleming Method.com is a place that I have just a ton of research data on for people. The books can either be bought on through Skyhorse or Amazon. So you can see there’s four of them up there. I’ve written 27 books. Most of them are medical and, and a lot of research.

I mean, something like 500 research papers in my life that I don’t recommend people try to read because they’re, they’re not, they’re not, you know, they’re not Saturday morning cartoon papers. But I mean those, those four were written for people to better understand what’s really going on. I’ve been involved with trying to make America healthy again for decades. I joined American heart in 1976 as the youngest faculty member and have been involved with research on heart disease and cancer and high blood pressure since the 1970s. The. So there’s that work. I know. I’m on Twitter, Facebook, I don’t think below.

I’ll have the links below so they’ll know where to, to get at you. And Otherwise the Fleming method.com is kind of like your, your home base. Right? Fleming method dot com. Just one M in Fleming. No stuttering. You know, I, so I’m sorry, I said, well, thank you for coming and what else did you want to say? No, I was just going to say there’s a lot of things I’ve taken down from there or you can’t see them because there was so much material. I’m not adding to it a lot these days simply because I think I’ve got most the information.

There’s a three part lecture series there that explains why the viruses and why the vaccines cause cancer. All nine pathways, all the data that shows what does and doesn’t work. We published research, by the way, during, during the pandemic on what did and didn’t work. And when we took it to medical conferences, legitimate, real Medical conferences. Every one of my colleagues looked at it and said, huh, that works. Because they were presented with scientific data. That gives me hope that if as we talked about the journalists, they would just quit saying Trojan horse and start doing their job.

That if they will maintain that open mindedness, they will see the good things, the bad and the indifferent that Doge is doing and other people are doing and report on it. Because it’s really critical that people wrap their brains around the truth. Truth. Don’t believe one side or the other. Ask for the validity. And as you mentioned numerous times, very importantly, USAID doesn’t need to be totally thrown out baby with the bathwater. We need to figure out what’s important. Well, the whole time, the whole back end crime organization does. Yeah. And we need to, and we need to go after the real criminals and, and people that have been using, using our tax money for what they want.

That’s not their money to use. That’s right. So if these journalists have problems, they need to learn to do their job. Well, they’re not journalists, they’re activists of some sort, but go ahead. Well then it’s time that they grow up and decide what they want to be as an adult. Either they want to be a journalist and do their job or they need to move over and let somebody else become a journalist or who really cares about doing it. Because there’s a lot of young people coming along and even people, you know, 30s, 40s that, that are thinking a career change that they’ve learned something and now they’d like to go investigate and start reporting on it.

I’ve seen a lot of that. So I’m not of the mindset that America is, is done. I’m of the mindset that these are critical times that we live in to determine what type of America we’re going to leave. And like it or not, action, inaction all determines what type of America we’re going to leave. So I’m delighted. Thank you for having me on the program and, and for the amount of time to talk about what I consider these very important topics. Well, thank you so much for joining us. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
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