CBDC AND DIGITAL ID IMPLEMENTATION IS PROGRESSING AND MARKS THE END OF FREEDOM-SARAH WESTALL

➡ Dave Hodges, the host of the Common Sense Show, discusses concerns about the potential misuse of digital IDs and AI in banking and online systems. He and his guest, Sarah Westall, express worry about the loss of privacy and freedom, as well as the potential for AI to control and monitor people’s actions. They emphasize the importance of understanding these systems to prevent fear and misuse. They also discuss the potential risks of investing in banks and recommend investing in gold and silver instead.
➡ The speaker is upset about unauthorized use of his logo and company name on his Rumble account, suspecting independent contractors for QFS (Quantum Financial System) are responsible. He’s considering legal action due to copyright infringement. He expresses skepticism about QFS, doubting its legitimacy and purpose. He also discusses the lack of technical knowledge in Congress, suggesting this is a problem when dealing with large tech companies.
➡ The discussion revolves around the importance of privacy and anonymity in the digital age. The speakers express concern about the potential misuse of power by central bankers and big tech companies, leading to a loss of personal freedom. They also discuss the need for more people to understand and push back against these potential threats. The conversation also touches on the COVID-19 pandemic and the controversial issues surrounding it, emphasizing the need for critical thinking and awareness.
➡ The text discusses the concept of learned helplessness, where people feel powerless due to overwhelming negativity and lack of solutions. It highlights the importance of not falling into a victimhood status and instead seeking ways to overcome challenges. The text also mentions the situation in China, where young people are disengaging from society as a form of protest against the system. Lastly, it talks about potential global solutions, such as the existence of massive ancient gold stores that could fund the world economy and lift countries out of poverty.
➡ The text discusses the current state of the world, suggesting that we are at a critical point where we can either fall into chaos or rise to a higher level of understanding and cooperation. It emphasizes the importance of leaders, like the President of the United States, in guiding us towards a more prosperous and peaceful future. The text also warns of potential threats, such as terrorism and the manipulation of public opinion through continuous crises. Finally, it highlights the changing landscape of media, with traditional outlets losing relevance and online platforms gaining more influence.
➡ The mainstream media is struggling to compete with popular podcasts and other platforms. They’ve made the mistake of changing their stance too quickly, alienating many viewers. The right-wing media is also struggling, with some claiming they avoid key issues and are not as conservative as they appear. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding and blocking the implementation of digital IDs and Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs), which they believe threaten freedom. They also discuss the influence of their podcast on an international level.
➡ The text discusses two individuals who host different shows, each targeting a unique audience. One show appeals more to leadership, while the other focuses on grassroots movements. Both hosts believe that their efforts are complementary, not competitive, as they aim to merge leadership with grassroots people. They emphasize the importance of understanding the issues at hand and motivating people at all levels, including those in positions of influence and grassroots movements.

Hey everybody, Dave Hodges here, host of the Common Sense Show. Thanks so much for joining us. We are the show that is freeing America one enslaved mind at a time. But I need your help in making it one million at a time. So please share. We need all hands on deck and we’ve got a great guest. Yes, the familiar Sarah Westall. Fortunately for us, a regular guest on our show, very popular with all of you. And you’ve asked me where Sarah. Well, here she is. She’s got an incredibly busy schedule and we appreciate her taking time out for us.

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I’d recommend you do it. Federal government wants me to tell you that any investment carries an inherent risk. We agree with that. They should expand that warning to the cryptic nature of the banking industry that won’t hesitate to steal from you. Sarah, welcome to the show. We’re going to be talking about some things that people are nitpicking me on about Donald Trump and this regard to cbdc, the global monetary goals as they call the great reset. I want to set the record straight one, so I can answer these allegations, you know, with more accuracy on my part.

And number two, the audience has a right to know this as well too. So I think this is a very, very important interview we’re about to do and I’m going to Leave it to you, because you have done conferences on this, you’ve written papers on this. Where do you think we should start so the average person, including me, can understand? Well, maybe we should start with CBDC and the fact that people are getting caught up into the name CBDC versus what the. What we should be really fighting. Because if we are psyoped or sidetracked into just looking at CBDCs, they’ll just implement it anyways under a different name, under.

See, the important thing is, is to understand the actual actions that they’re doing. Actual algorithms, the software that’s going on and how it’s being done. You can do it through the banking system as is, you know, just by mandates for the banks to, to track and trace certain things and then mandate them to connect their systems to their systems which is already occurring, and then they have access to all of that and then they can track and trace and then they. The next step would be for them to implement, to act on their tracing. Right, okay.

Those are the kinds of things that we need to be looking at. And when that, the more they automate that and the more they. That’s why I’m concerned about Uniform Digital id, because now that’s then tied into those systems and you can’t have an anonymous account somewhere. So let’s say they say you have to have a digital ID to, to go online. Like you cannot do anything online. You can’t log in to any of the, you know, unless you have some kind of private area you cannot even use. Like you can’t log into your account, you can’t log into PayPal, you can’t do anything unless you have your digital ID.

They do that now suddenly they can track, trace and act on you based on the current banking system, the forcing the banks to track certain things about you for certain online companies like Google, who is probably part of this, to track things about you and then tie that to your digital ID and next thing you know, they know everything that you’re doing financially and everywhere else. Sarah, I’m sure you’ve heard this, but many Christian members of my audience, including myself, think that what you’re describing here has the potential to be the mark of the beast. Well, it definitely is an evil thing to track.

Everybody can’t buy this without taking the mark. That’s kind of what I’m hearing here is. I don’t know if that thoughts occurred to you, but that’s where, where you just took me on, your explanation matches, right? I mean, I, I’m not going to go there and say it’s a mark of the beast. Because I don’t, I, I, I’m not God. But it sure matches because it’s absolutely evil to control. It’s tyranny. You’re giving tyranny in the hands, the ability to do all ultimate tyranny into the hands of a few. And unless those few are altruistic, you’re screwed.

I’ve seen no evidence that these people are altruistic. That’s the problem. And that’s the whole point of why the communist system? Because it’s the hands and the few or any kind of centralized system. And why decentralization is so critical to freedom and liberty and everything that we cherish. Because even you know, people who are fighting this, they, they want to centralize something and it’s only good while those people have a moral compass and are altruistic. As soon as they become tyrants, which is what we’ve been seeing, you’re screwed. I don’t have another word to say for it.

I mean, there are probably other better words to say than that. But you know my point? I mean you’re just, you’re in a hell landscape because then they can control everything that you’re doing. And that’s where the concern of the AI comes in. Because then they have the AI instead of people watching. It’s too hard for people to monitor themselves. But if you have an AI system that monitors everything and then they flag something and then it acts on it without people even being involved. Now you have the AI doing all of this without even anybody interfering or becoming involved.

Next thing you know, you can’t buy food, you can’t use your, your cash because the AI found something bad that you did. And it even could be an error. You know, it’d just be BS that they’ve and, and who knows what the tyrants or whoever’s programming the AI to look at. That’s what’s scary about it. Does that make sense? No, it makes perfect sense. You’ve laid it out and people can be from a secular persuasion, non Christian and come to the conclusion this is tyranny in the making. I totally agree with what you’re saying. This is why people respect you, because you’re not afraid to take on the giants.

And I think you’re still have a choice. Well, your statement is bold. I mean there are a lot of people I know, I’ve questioned on this. They don’t want to come on the record because they’re afraid of retaliation and they’ve told me that it’s too bad because that’s what we’re dealing with. And if the people don’t know, then, you know, shame on you for not coming forward and telling people what this could be. Because the. My children, I don’t want them living in this environment. I don’t want your children living in this environment either. It’s just not okay.

And we need to understand this. And I also think that people are coming on and talking and trying. It sounds really scary and I don’t want to scare people, but I also hear people talking about all this in a way that is purposely done to scare people. And I don’t like that either. I think there’s a balance. I think understanding and learning what this is about gets rid of the fear because when they start talking about it in kind of a woo woo sense, they’re not understanding it. You know, when they say AI is, that is not what it’s about.

It’s about understanding the algorithm that’s programmed in. And it’s kind of like the guy behind the curtains in the wizard of Oz. They’re just telling it what to do and then it goes and does it. I totally agree. And the Tin man is behind it. All right. But as you are saying, I want to digress just for a second because I’m trying to get my mind wrapped around this whole entire bubble of what we’re talking about. And I want to go specifically to QFS and I want to share with you what’s happened to me. It’s happened on many occasions, but I’ve become a victim of massive intrusion into my Rumble account with people misusing my logo, with people misusing my company name.

They’re trademarked and patented. I could take legal action right now. And they are obviously independent contractors for QFS because they’re coming in under false pretenses and they hide under the comments to the comments, you know, the secondary comments, so hoping I won’t see it. And I check every comment and I had anywhere in the last 24 hours, 40 to 50 of these intrusions into my copyright, my infringement. Can QFS be trusted? Because if they’re not monitoring their independent contractors, then I can’t trust them. Well, I don’t think the quantum financial system is what people think it is.

And even so, this is whatever we’re dealing with because I have that too. I have so many false accounts all over the place. I don’t think there’s no. I haven’t done enough research to see if that’s tied to QFs or if that’s a psyop too, just to kind of screw with everybody’s minds. But the QFS from. I know someone who was the trustee of the QFS for a period of four months who tells me that it. At best case, it’s. At best case, it was a s. At worst case, it’s the worst thing that ever could hit humanity.

It’s not what people think it is. It’s. I think it’s just one big scop. But the stuff I saw, I saw documents, I saw the things he saw and it was, it’s just. I think it’s a big s. I think they have more serious things going on. And they were using the QFS to just get people all. I don’t know what they’re doing with it. It’s stupid. Whenever you’re doing what they’re doing, it’s just stupid. But the QFS in the way that they have been selling it is not anything that I’ve seen from a professional, realistic standpoint.

Yeah, that’s my point. And they are one step away from me having an attorney that I have access to. And we will subpoena every record. They’ve even set up a fake email account in my name. Dave Hodges, 061. Did you try to email it? Huh? Did you try to email it? Because. Well, I’ve emailed them and I emailed them with a cease and desist order and, and now they’re just bombarding my comments with this people. I want to put this out. I am not affiliated with qfs. I have no interest in qfs. I can’t basically legitimate, excuse me, legitimize what they do.

If it’s true and honest or dishonest, I have no idea. I don’t care. I want nothing to do with them. And this better stop because ultimately, Sarah, if these are independent contractors, associated QFs, they’re liable for a lawsuit and they’re headed in that direction with me. Yeah, I think it’s, it’s. Yeah, I just mute them as much as I can. I do too. I do too. But I got somewhere between 40 and 50 of these hidden comments today, this morning already. And I’m done with the infringement on my copyright that’s actionable right there through the federal government.

I don’t have. That’s right. I don’t have to prove anything against QFs. It’s prima facie evidence. When the logo is right there. And using the name, the common sense show, and then using my name and creating fake email accounts that’s fraud at both state and federal level. Yeah, and I think it’s. I don’t even know what to think about that whole QFs. Anyway, I don’t want to spend any more time on. I just wanted your opinion and your answer is very similar to what I would give. It’s a big question mark. I just know I’m going to find a way to stop it and I’m going to keep publicizing it until I draw QFS out of their little bubble.

Because they’re responsible. If these are independent contractors, they’re responsible for them legally. I’ve already checked on this. You know when you have independent contractors that violate terms of service and then infringe on copyright, that parent company is responsible for the actions of the people doing it. And they can say they’re not, but there are court cases that say they are. I can guarantee you that anything that’s been going to be put out as a world financial system, they’re not going to call it quantum financial system. Yeah, I agree with you. I totally agree with that. So to me it’s a waste of time.

I could care less about their legitimacy. They’re just going to stop trying to pirate my image to promote what they want to do. And that’s, that’s what I wanted to ask you about. But I want to go back to what you were saying earlier, you and I in a pre air discussion you talked to me about the background of Congress and they are woefully unprepared to deal with these challenges. Can you elaborate on that? I think it’s one of the most important things we’re dealing with as a country is that they are just ignorant. The whole world, they’re operating in a world that’s pass them by really.

And most of them are operating as if it was 20 years ago or 30 years ago. And when you look at the largest companies in the world, these companies that the world has never seen market caps like this, massive companies, Apple and you know, $3 trillion Nvidia, these are massive corporations. And Google, you know these things that the Saudi Aramco is the only non big tech company and they were two years ago, they were third this year, their sixth. I mean they keep moving down and these big tech companies are moving up. I analyzed what the backgrounds of the House and Congress, you know the Senate and the House, all of Congress Is and only 20 of them have engineering degrees.

I think something like there’s another bunch that have are physicians, not that many but like 16 or something. But of those 20, only four are electrical engineers or computer scientists. One is a computer scientist. Now you’re talking the entire world’s largest corporations and there’s only four, maybe one that has that back, you know, both electrical engineers and computer scientists. Only four really. And it’s not that the people who are not trained in that can’t learn it and understand it and it’s not that the people who are trained in it are capable of applying their knowledge to social issues.

I mean you need the right people. Right? But they’re woefully. It’s such an example of why we’re seeing them just being run over. There’s, we don’t have people who are trained in this and our culture has been taught that it’s nerdy. You know, if you look at China, you look at some of these Japan and some of these other countries, they’re not teaching their kids it’s nerdy. Exactly. Exactly. Well, I think we’re going to see a turnaround in that, but I don’t know if it’s going to be in time to make a difference. I keep reading about Gen Z realize that they have been betrayed by the way they were raised in, the culture they’ve been bred in.

And, and, and I do think we’re going to see somewhat of a turnaround but I don’t know if it’s going to time to deal with this issue because I look at this issue as being rather imminent and by imminent I mean outside five years, within a year it could happen. I mean what do you see as far as time frame? Well, I think the, the financial system being changed over, if that’s what you’re talking about, CBDCs and things. I think that’s ongoing right now. It’s implementing right now. The board meetings of the big wigs are happening right now.

They’re, that’s the whole geopolitical warfare that we’re seeing. I don’t know who’s going to win. I think there’s four factions is how I’ve kind of come up with it. I don’t know who’s going to win out of those factions and I think some of them are going to merge together and if the central bankers had their way, they’re, they’re infiltrating every one of those factions. But I, it’s happening right now and it’s woke oriented, ESG oriented. Would you agree with that? I think that a couple of them could be, yeah, the central bankers, no doubt, but because they want to control the world based on That I don’t know.

I think the other factions are not unless they’re infiltrated. Okay, here’s why I asked the question. Blackrock is really the father of esg. Blackrock and their partner, State street and Vanguard. And they’re interlocked. They control 92% of all asset management in the United States, about 70 to 75% globally. And so that’s why I asked the question about are they woke oriented? Well, definitely. That’s what we’re infiltrated with in all levels. I think the reason why I say infiltration is because, like, for example, the cryptocurrency space, which it looks like the whole Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, that whole.

That’s one of the factions that are fighting on this. And that there’s going to be a blending of multiple ones, I think ultimately. And there is a purity in some of that where it’s just a utility and it’s. It’s to bring on freedom, you know, where you can’t be tracked. You’re anonymous. And it. It actually works. There are serious, serious options there. Most of those entrepreneurs have been attacked and have been persecuted. Eric Meter is that one guy you’re referring to. No, Eric Meter is a. Is someone who’s. Eric Meter is the son of Glenn Meter.

And I love Eric. He’s. He reminds me of my son. But Glenn Meter is the priv. I’ve talked to both. Yes. And he’s wonderful. He’s going to teach you guys, your audience, if they join, how to become anonymous and private and not be victim to any of this. We’ve set up our. We’ve set up our webinar for March, but I asked you that because then my friend Chris Kitsey with Private Line, it seems like there’s a whole cottage industry springing up on how to separate from this absolute control. I really, really appreciated that conversation with Chris Kitc more than people know.

He said a lot of things that jived with what I’ve been seeing globally. And I was really impressed with what he said and some of the things that he said because that tells me he. He’s come to some of the same conclusions that I have on what’s going on on a global scale. Yeah, I tell people Chris is the real deal. I’ve known him for 15 years, and I have insight to the things he’s done in the past. And not only is he talented and knowledgeable, he is honest. And I have 15 years of dealings with him to prove that.

So we’re lucky to have him. We’re lucky to have the meters. And I think this movement is very positive because to me, cbdc, and here’s one of my greatest fears, it’s about the implementation of the social credit system, starting with censorship and ending with complete control over your money and your lifestyle and where you live and how you live. That’s where it’s leading to. If we don’t protect ourselves against it. Right. And not give them the tools. If altruistic people were in charge, we wouldn’t have to worry about it. And that’s where a lot of Americans are extremely, extremely naive.

They think that our government is altruistic. And I think that’s why they got fooled by Covid. I think that’s why the Democrats want all this big government. I think they’re just so naive. They don’t, they don’t realize that tyrants can take this over. And I don’t trust the big central bankers and a lot of the people. I don’t think they’re all bad. Who works in all these industries. That’s just not true. But I don’t trust the families behind some of this. I don’t trust anybody that has too much power for two length much time. Without a balance of power.

Without a balance of power, you become a tyrant. And that’s been demonstrated all through history. Sure. Well, you know what’s really interesting is the founding fathers knew this when they did the separation of powers and they gave us the 10th Amendment and federalism. And they’re echoing right here what you’re saying. And not only that, that old saying about absolute power corrupts absolutely. And this is what I’m hearing you say, and I couldn’t agree with you more. And to our American friends, people, you can’t trust this government. And even with Donald Trump, trust and verify, that has to be the rule of the day.

You have to hold their feet to the fire to make sure they do what they say they’re going to do, make sure they don’t implement anything crazy. The other thing is he’s working woefully ignorant people in Congress and how in the House, incredibly painfully now, as I just laid out, they do not have the expertise to manage this properly. And so they’re relying on lobbyists from big tech. I mean, what they’re relying on lobbyists from the central banking and then the lawyers who are going to or big pharma. We saw this with COVID They’re relying on all these people chirping in their ears telling them things because they don’t understand it really, what we need is an army of people who understand it to fight it.

And we don’t have that. We have the, the war like in our, that fifth generation side, you know, mind control, fifth generation warfare series that you were part of, I had a military expert on and he, he said that, you know, the military is really almost not relevant anymore when it comes to this. That they’re bypassing the military and going right to the people to control the people and deal with the people directly. And if the Congress and the Senate and the House have, don’t understand what they’re dealing with, then it’s like, it’s like having a military that’s shooting BB guns and you, you have another military, your opponent has tanks and rifles.

You know, I mean you just, we are woefully ignorant. I would say this, I agree with the direction you’re taking your argument. I think it’s very sound. But I would also say we to consider random variables here with a law of unintended consequences. And what I mean by this is that when you bypass the military, you’re bypassing citizens who have relatives who are also affected by this. And this is how revolutions start. I mean violent revolutions. And when you look at the French Revolution, there’s some commonalities there with this. And, and I, and I don’t think this is going to be implemented without a fight because of that.

I think if it gets too, I don’t, I think it will be implemented without a fight because people won’t understand that it was implemented if they, if they win. I mean the people who are the different factions that are fighting, they understand it, they know what’s going on. But if, if it ends up happening, I mean, because it’s being implemented now and I, and the infiltration in these different factions is already. The problem is these central bankers have so much money and so many tools and we just have to push back against it. I know people feel powerful powerless on this.

And so what’s going to happen is they’re going to implement it and then we’re going to have to do our revolution. I’m sorry to be a bearer of bad news. No, no, I think you’re probably right. I’m thinking about another phrase here that you’re sort of describing. The boil, the frog in the boiling pot. It happens so progressively over time that you don’t notice it until it’s too. That’s what I’m hearing you say. And the concern I have is the mind control part. If we have a bunch of People who are psyoped into accepting it, then it’s a boiling frog until they.

They can’t do anything. They’re paralyzed. William Casey, ex CIA director, said, when the. Everything the American people believe is a lie, then we have done our job. I wonder if he’s not referring to the future when he made that comment. In situations like this, it would seem so, yeah. I mean, that’s the risk. And that’s why I, you know, I hooked you up with the meters and, you know, other things and why you. You’re. I know you’re. We’ve also have Chris Kitsey and other things I’ve been looking at through the love pod, which is getting us off of being tracked.

And I’m. But the thing is, is there’s not enough people that are embracing this. They don’t understand. And that’s where I’ve come to the conclusion we are just so woefully ignorant. And when I look at what happened with COVID Covid was more obvious than this is. Okay. Covid couldn’t be any more obvious what was going on to anybody that has a brain and can think about it. Right. I mean, Steve Kirsch just put out an email saying that the shots now they have statistical proof with the government’s own data, which we know has been fixed, but he’s still using their own data that the COVID shots are now causing people to get Covid more than the people who haven’t.

Right. It’s because it’s. Their immune system is fried. It’s compromised. Exactly. Right. Yeah. But okay, so we have these shots that give Covid. They get Covid more and they’re causing all these side effects and death and everything else, and these people still can’t get it. I mean, now that can’t be. Well, wouldn’t be any more obvious than this, Sarah. I think at least half the country gets it to some degree. Well, you see what I’m saying? And now we get into another subject. I don’t want to be black pill there, because that’s not what my intent is.

My intent is never to black pill people. My intent people are black power people. I’ve used that phrase. Some people say, I don’t know what you mean by black pill. Can you tell them what it means? Black pilling is that you. There’s, you know, came out of the Matrix movie the red pill versus the blue pill. Although that talking to the original writer of it, they flipped the meanings around. And that’s a whole other story which we talked about. In the past. But red pill is to learn what’s going on. Black pill is you learn and you’re so distraught that it shuts you down and you think everything’s bad and it’s, it’s hopeless.

It’s a learned helplessness, really. It, you know, learning, learning to empower yourself to take action and sometimes learning really ugly, traumatic things. And you go through trauma for a while as you’re understanding what’s really going on. And then black pill is. You’re learning that, but you’re. At the same time, you’re becoming helpless and you never want to become helpless or hopeless. That’s a victimhood status. And that we can’t be that. You know, you know this because we’ve discussed this and I gave a small presentation on, on your seminar on fifth Generation Warfare with learned helplessness. But people, just real briefly here, A psychologist developed an experiment where he put a dog on electrical grid, shocked it.

The dog showed it could escape. And then he had a barrier put around. He shocked it. And the dog tried and tried and tried and eventually gave up. They took the barrier down. The dog had been conditioned that its actions made no difference. And they shocked the dog in a no barrier environment and it could not, it did not escape because psychologically it was in prison. And we call that learned helplessness. And it explains a lot of human behavior. And this is really the goal. And we hit this on fifth generation Warfare again, which was such a great series.

We hit it where people are overwhelmed with negativity without solution. And this is often the mantra of disinfo artists who’ve been placed in the alternative media. And you and I’ve had that discussion many times. We’re not here to defame anybody. But Sarah, we know who a lot of them are. There’s no question about they, they show themselves because they never give you an inkling of a suggestion or a ray of hope that you can work your way out of the dilemma. Yeah. And, and, and to be fair, some of them are just black pill, you know, and they’re not doing anybody a service because they’re out there and they’re just.

But the ones who are getting a lot of traction, I’ll go algorithmically boosted on some of these platforms are disinfo. They’re agents of that. Yeah. And as I’ve looked into some of the backgrounds of some of these people, some of our suspicions have been confirmed. And that’s why I warn the audience. And Sarah’s joined me in this in the past. If you don’t hear we can’t have a solution for everything. And I don’t expect that. But over the course of someone’s work, there should be a direction towards correction. Things that we could do or at least try shoot a flare gun up into the air.

I mean, do something. But some of these people do nothing. I mean, not one thing. Nope. And they just, they always have all these negative things instead of looking and, and they’re only pointing out the negative. They’re positive things too going on to counteract some of these stuff. But they’re only pointing out the negative. And that pretty much people are shutting down because of that. Because if that’s it, then why even try, you know, if all you’re going to be is hear it every day how bad stuff is. But the, the point is, is that we, we are free thinking individuals.

We have that, God gave that to us. We still have free will if we decide, and you know this better than I do when it comes to free will with all the, the mind control operations they have going on, if we are stubborn and if we think about it, we are aware of it, they can’t control us. Yes, that’s right. And you know, one of the things and I probably when you have time and you don’t have any good guests set up, I could come on and talk about what’s happening in China because I think it’s foretelling the future, but it also shows how you can break down tyranny.

China is total social credit. And there’s this thing called bin lan in China which means let it rotate. And most of the young people, they’re gen Z, about 70% of them are quitting on society. They’re not going to the colleges, they’re not engaged in advance. They’re just getting by on basic survival, you know, menial labor jobs. And they say we want nothing to do with the ccp. And China is falling apart. The banks are in real trouble in China, ladies and gentlemen. This is coming here because it’s intentional. The banks in China can’t meet obligations for withdrawals and they refuse withdrawals many times.

And Sarah, in addition to that, they’re putting people in these bank retirement accounts that are terrible, they’re meaningless, they’re not backed by anything. And it’s just a way of obfuscating them what’s going on and hiding the money from people that legitimately have a right to it. China is falling apart financially, but it’s the young people leading this revolution and all they’re doing is staying and quitting it’s indifference to the system that’s bringing it down. And this is what Gandhi and King talked about. I mean, this. This is very much out of the principles of Gandhi and King.

And I think there is hope. See here we could tell we’re not disinfo. Because I’m saying I think that model fits here. And what I like that you’re talking about is with privacy and the meters and Chris kits, there are alternative springing up to say we don’t have to be in your crappy system. Yeah, we don’t have to be in your crappy system. But it doesn’t. And the other thing is it doesn’t mean we don’t totally not engage with our local cities, but we look for alternatives at the same time. Does that make sense? Because some of the people that are coming up with solutions are leaving the country and building cities or building alternative compounds in other countries, which I understand how they can get to that point.

But that’s not going to solve our problem either. No, you know, you have to stay here and build alternate solutions so that people come and say that solutions better. And that’s what I want to do and that’s what we have to look at. But we have to be informed. We have to understand. We got to get our kids understanding. We have to educate ourselves and be informed. There are some solutions that I’m seeing on a global scale from a monetary standpoint. And Chris Kitzee said some of this, which was this. That’s where I was really impressed, is that he knew some of this.

You’re talking about the interview I did with Chris, right? Yes, yes. Okay. I was impressed that he brought this up because there isn’t that many people. I think we’re the only ones talking about it publicly at this point. That’s not true. They are public. But anybody that has any kind of following are talking about it publicly. That there’s massive ancient gold stores that are available to fund the entire world economy and that the people who are behind it are resonate at a higher level. They’re not about taking over the world and controlling stuff. They want to underlie the entire world economy and give people freedom back.

They want to lift. They want to lift all these third world countries out of poverty and destitution. They want to give. They want to flood the local communities within the United States with the proper financing to get out of poverty and to fund people. They want to pay off all the debts of the world countries and then they want to stand step aside and just manage it as a utility for the need of the people. That’s what I’m seeing and I’m absolutely impressed with it. And I don’t know. I think the central bankers want to infiltrate that and take that over.

I think that. I know for a fact that members of the Trump administration has, have looked into it. I don’t know if what these people are going to do. Everybody’s afraid. I know there are many countries that want to move forward with it, but are afraid. I know for a fact there are countries that want to because they don’t. They don’t. They’re not beholden to the central bankers other than through blackmail. So the central bankers are controlling the entire, you know, they’re control the countries that are big and have a lot of power within the central banking system want to maintain that.

Okay. Small countries that are not. That have no power and they’re poor and their resources are used by everybody else and their people are suffering. They all want to be part of this. And, and so it’s, and that’s why the brics have been so appealing to them. The problems with the BRICs is they don’t have this financial backing that these guys have. So I think if the brics were smart, they would merge with these guys. But the BRICs are also infiltrated by the central bankers. That’s true. But I do think the brics can take actions. I do agree with you.

The brics could take a corrective action. No, eliminate. The central bankers can go to this system and it’s something that we’re going to have to do a specialized show on because people are going to kind of have more questions about this and they’re going to get answers in our show. But people, there are vast amounts of wealth that’s out there to be distributed and it is people, you know, you know what it is. You can control people by a dictatorship or you can have your rules, but then you have a democracy, you have a sharing of ideas and a caring nature.

And, and you’re resonating at a much higher level. Much like Gandhi and King again. That’s right. And, and I think the people you’re talking about here are resonating at a higher level. We’re dealing with bankers that, you know, it’s my way or the highway. We’ll kill you, we’ll bankrupt you. We’ll do anything to you. We want to get our way. And this is really what the world has a choice and where we move now. That’s right. So we’re at a Precipice. Some people are the Christian religion. They believe that. I’m not one of those. I’m a Christian, but I don’t believe.

But they think we’re headed to the tribulation and they think it’s inevitable. It is inevitable, but it’s not inevitable for now. We can make the choices to put ourselves on a higher level and not fall victim to such the hideous behavior that it forces Jesus to return for the second time. And we have a choice. We can be Babylon and be destroyed or we can be Nineveh and have repentance and forgiveness. And I think this is where America is at right now. I think it’s where the world is at. But America is going to lead the way, the America, if we decide to, If Trump, as I was, as the words that I was told, if Pharaoh can, if his heart can soften and Pharaoh can follow, meaning the head of the United States, President of the United States, then he could lead the entire world to the golden age that he’s talking, talking about.

And there is no other bit better way to do that than to lift every country in the world out of poverty, lift every human being in this country out of poverty through, through these new funding mechanisms and, and then also turn it back into a utility instead of a weapon of war eventually. It’s pretty loaded what I’m saying, but I agree, we have behind it. You’re echoing what I just said. It’s, it’s, we have a choice. Eventually the world’s going to degenerate to such a point that we are going to have the end days and we’ll have the seven year tribulation, there’s no question.

But it doesn’t have to be now. And see, this is where people are so fatalistic. They think because the signs and symptoms there, hey, because you have a belly ache doesn’t mean you have stomach cancer. And that’s how some people react to this. Well, you know, some people think that we’re in a Cal Yuga cycle and Jesus came at the very lowest point of that cycle and we’re entering out of it. And so if, if they’re right and you’re right, then we aren’t, we don’t have to, we can raise above all this and just keep going to a more golden age.

And then it goes around and then it falls back. And then at the very lowest point is where Jesus supposedly came. Based on those cycles, what I was looking at, that’s when Jesus came is at the lowest point of that cycle. Now the People who follow that aren’t Christians. But that’s when he came. Well, I got to tell you, Sarah, you’re right on the money because the Bible clearly says if Jesus did not return, there’d be no flesh left alive. You’re absolutely right. It’s the lowest point. There’s absolutely no question. And what people like you and me and many others like us and the general population, we don’t want to get to that point in our lifetime.

We don’t want it for our children either. So this is what motivates me to do this work. This is something I feel that I’m called to do, you know, and you know, a little of my history. I was a happy college basketball coach teaching my psychology classes. And Annie Durizo, I’m going to give you. Love you, Annie. I love you so much. She was my news director for six and a half years. Her husband was my mentor before he died. And she said, Dave, you have a calling. You are called by God to do this work.

And she said, you need to step away from this other stuff you’re doing, no matter how much you like it. She told me this for three years until I finally got it. Yeah, that’s how I feel. I think, I think those of us who are doing it at the, the risk of our livelihoods and our, you know, is putting ourselves on the line. You’re doing it because it’s a calling, not because it’s the smartest thing to nest. I think it’s the smartest thing to do for our children. I mean, but we’re doing it because it’s a calling for.

Sir, for sure. Well, there’s a resurgence in America to these beliefs we’re talking about. I see clear evidence of it across all spectrums. But there’s another danger. Yesterday and this hit mainstream media. I was shocked. There are tens of thousands of high powered ammunition for ground troops.50 cal machine gun, AK47s that were interdicted in Arizona, both at the border and in Eloy which is halfway between Tucson and Phoenix. There come that ammunition is coming in here because some of the gotaways are terrorists and they’re supplying them to attack us. There’s no other conclusion possible. And the global elite know they have to destroy America to get what they want.

Because we have this resurgence of populism. Christianity is on the rise again. When we look at all this, Sarah, they got to stop it. And we’re about ready to find out what true terrorism is. There was an episode in 24 the show 24 with Kiefer Sutherland. I think it was season five. In the first episode when this new president took over, there were multiple terrorist attacks all across the country. And I think that episode is calm compared to what’s coming because we have 8 million gotaways. Why would you avoid federal handouts and run from people who will help you? Well, because you’re a terrorist and don’t want to be identified.

And there’s 8 million of them. If that’s not scary. And then in the chaos that ensues, this is where I think what you’re talking about comes in. Well, I, I don’t know how bad it has to get before they say, okay, we need to do something like this. I, you know, I had Jeffrey Prather on right before. I’ve interviewed Crather long, it’s a long sounding A. And he was talking about cascading poly crisis. I wrote it down. And he used to be in charge of scops. You know, one of the things he did as an intelligence officer, and you probably are familiar with this, where you have a cascading crisis over and over to the point that’s learned helplessness again and people drop their empathy.

They’re no longer empathetic to others. They can’t. It’s a, it’s a purposeful psyop technique to get people to fall in line without, you know, shooting any guns or, you know, having any kind of weapons involved. And that’s part of psyops and so part of me. How does he say they’re accomplishing it? Because I would suspect that repeated exposure to something and desensitization is part of it. Well, he was saying that when you have escalating crisis non stop, that’s, that’s the psyop. It’s. There’s always something hap. It’s always a continuous crisis to shut the population down. That’s right.

If you’re on fight or flight and those hormones take over, you know, the hormones that are responsible or the brain chemicals responsible for empathy and love, you know, oxytocin, dopamine, all these, that goes by the wayside and your fight or flight mechanisms take over and everything because you’re on survival mode. Everything else is secondary. And I understand exactly what Jeremy saying. He said some of that too when I interviewed him probably about eight or nine months ago. And I do see evidence of that. And you know, where we really are starting to see it is in the mainstream media.

Yeah, well, the mainstream media has kind of lost their minds as far as I’m concerned, you think? I think they, they’re, they’re thrashing, they’re losing and they’re thrashing. And I think it’s also a business model issue. I don’t think it’s just because they’ve been found out. You know, I think they’re losing in the, the numbers game because a new business model has come aboard. The, the whole online. The podcasters are getting more views than they are, so they’re not no longer relevant. But yet they have these big bloated organizations. They don’t know how to operate other than that.

They just, it’s, and what we’re seeing is the entire mainstream trying to come into this online community with the same mindset. And so a lot of them, unless they’re propped up by the, by the platforms, which is also what’s happening. These platforms are propping up some of these selected individuals and they’re also helping them be algorithmically boosted. But unless they have that backing, they’re, they’re, they can’t compete because they, they, they were never organically as popular as some of these other, you know, as podcasts. And, and now these other ones who are being algorithmically boosted and boosted by the platforms, they’re having to learn how to still compete hard.

They have to really be good now because they have to compete against others who are out there nipping at their. It’s a different world for them and that’s what they’re up against. Yeah. I’m going to speak as a psychologist here. The fundamental mistake that the mainstream media has made is they went from A to Z and people’s perceptual defense kicks in because you’re not systematically having your belief system taken down over time, which is manageable and you can do that. What they did is they went from, you know, we represent most of America a little bit liberal.

Yeah. But we’re still Americans. Right. And they went from that to total woke, cutting kids genitals off, you know, not allowing parents a voice in their kids education. And that alienated so many people so quickly that we see this precipitous drop in their viewership. CNN only gets 300,000 views in primetime. Well, so I think that’s, that’s the main part with the mainstream that’s on the left. But when you’re talking about the mainstream on the right, they’re, they never went that hardcore. They’re struggling too. They’re spot in too. But they’re the ones that do it slowly. Well, I don’t buy, I’m going To cut right to the chase here, I don’t buy, I think some of the people on Fox are conservative and well meaning, but as an institution, while their major asset manager is BlackRock.

And two weeks after that happened, Tucker Carlson was fired. And ultimately they can’t talk about voting machines. They are very limited in election fraud. They skip many of the key issues. They are the great pretender. They’re the planned opposition and I don’t trust them. They’re as leftist as left can be, but they try to fool you with yay Trump. Yay Trump. But you can’t really get to the mechanisms that limit Trump and actually got him defeated in 2020. That’s right. They can’t really address the issues head on. It was like the world economic During COVID we were talking about the World Economic Forum and I and asked like my, my parents, my dad is a hardcore Fox News guy and I ask him, if you’re so informed, do you even know what I tried to, I wasn’t all that respectful because it pisses me off.

But I’m like, do you know who the World Economic Forum is? Have they ever talked about it? What you know, he, he didn’t even know they, I said unless they’re talking about it, you’re not informed, period. They’re the ones the, they’re the ones that put we’re resetting the world based on Covid up on their website. They’re the ones that have the meetings with every leader of every country and all the top corporations in the world. If you don’t know who they are, you’re not informed. I don’t care. And if this news is just entertainment, then tell, tell the people you’re just entertainment.

But if you’re not going to tell people about the most powerful institutions in the world and what’s going on, you sure the heck aren’t news. This is where I get to give a Donald Trump plug. He gave a speech remotely to the World Economic Forum and he gave him the big fu message. He gave him the middle finger on both hands, probably even took off his shoes and gave him the middle toe because he basically said, we’re America, this is what we’re going to do. We don’t care what you say, we don’t care what you do.

This is now the mandate. Now come and get us. That was kind of the message that I took from that and I thought that was remarkable. Now that sets him up for assassination. But the thing is, and I pray for Donald Trump’s safety. But Sarah Maga is bigger than Donald Trump. Now, the people who are in his administration will carry on this fight. The backers, the donators, the money people that are behind this, they will carry on this fight beyond Donald Trump. He’s 78 years old. We have no guarantee how long he’s going to live, even from natural causes.

But the fight will continue. And the problem is for the left now and the globalists, they have real, meaningful opposition right now. The thing that you and I need to do, and our audience, we need to share our broadcasts, we need to share the message so we can get all hands on deck. So we’re an insurmountable foe that can’t be defeated because of our sheer numbers, our sheer opposition. And like I go back to China again, we have allies in the Chinese youth. They don’t want this BS either. Well, people are people, right? And people ask me about China, I’m like, well, I was there for three, three weeks before COVID and I could tell there’s a fear there, but I love the people.

And they have their factions, too. You know, they don’t want all this crap. So just like we have factions, they have factions. Yeah. But China’s proof that when you let this power come in and what we’re. Where we started the CBDCs and, and the global monetary reset, if we let this come in, it’s going to be really hard to get rid of it. And China’s living proof of that. We need to block it before it gets started. How do we block it? Well, that’s where you get back to. We need people to understand what it is that we’re trying to block.

And, you know, the digital ID is horrible. Trump is pushing for a digital ID. And I understand it because back in the early 90s, I wrote a paper, I was in telecom and I wrote a paper about how we should have a customer ID that crosses all telecoms so that we can manage the customer. That’s essentially what it is. And I just, I was, you know, I was in my 20s. I was. That really is how you should manage it, if you want to be the best way you could do it. Right? And as a utility, that makes the most sense.

That’s telecom, you know. But when it comes to freedom and it comes to your banking and your health records and everything else, no, we don’t want everything tracked to that. So we need to understand what it really means and we need more people digging. And you got. Don’t get. Don’t think that just because you defeat a CBDC bill, you won. That’s not, you know, all these people running around acting like cbdc. I almost think that was a psyop because, and with well meaning people. But, but because they’re then what are they distracted from real implementation of this stuff going on with, you know, we need people in the banking sector to step out and start blowing the whistle.

They’re the ones implementing this stuff. Come out, start blowing the whistle on what’s really going on. You see, there’s another thing Trump is doing though, Sarah. I read today, this morning that Trump has, is having his DOJ investigate banks that have targeted conservatives. And that’s part of this movement. Exactly. You’re ideologically on board with us or we’re going to come and get you. That social. That’s social credit right there. This is a flipping utility. We need to get the, the money back to being a utility, not to being a weapon of war or a weapon to control people.

This is why I buy gold, silver and crypto. Listen, I can’t say all of them are going to be successful, but if you put all your eggs in one basket, the US banking system, you’re surely going to get screwed. And as I hedge against the dollar. Exactly. You’re totally, absolutely right. Well, Sarah, you’ve got. And I want to spend a couple of minutes and this. I’m blessed, God’s blessed me with having a podcast that’s in the top 1/2 of 1% is rated by 3.5 million. Okay. But I think that may even pale in comparison to what you’re doing internationally.

I want you to talk for a minute about your show and, and the international appeal you’re having. You’re not just affecting Americans. You’re doing something that I’m not real good at yet and that’s influencing our foreign friends. Well, my show ranks in the top of the charts in business news all around the world and you know, four dozen countries. And just a couple weeks ago when I last looked, I don’t look all the time. I was ninth in Russia. I don’t know how that happened. So that’s, that happens regularly. This is on Apple podcast, but so I know I’m reaching people from a business news standpoint, which why I appreciate that is because I think it has a lot of the people that are movers and shakers in the world.

I agree. Yeah. So, and when I started my podcast, I was back in the day. I wanted to focus on meaningful edge of change with the smartest, best people I could find and then attract an audience who can also make sure that change is beneficial for humanity. And I think I’ve, I’ve been. We’re getting there. And I think you do too. You. You attract a lot of that. But that’s always been my goal. And I don’t know, you know, I haven’t really articulated it openly very often, but that’s. I’ve done that a few times over the years, but that’s really what I want.

The best people I can possibly find to help people learn what’s going on and to navigate it and to understand it. Yeah, your show appeals more to leadership than mine does. Mine more goes to grassroots, and grassroots movements are critical people. I’m not minimizing what my audience can do. My audience does great things, but we’re appealing at two different levels and I think both levels are needed. I really do. And this way we’re not even competitors because I think our audiences cross over some. But I think there’s distinct centrifuge of power as far as what your show goes after and what mine goes after.

But ultimately we’re trying to merge leadership with grassroots people. And yeah, this is why we have a good marriage, so to speak. I often refer to Sarah is my better looking younger little sister, and I think that’s an effective comparison there. But you’re doing such great work internationally and I would say I’m envious, but that sounds like I’m jealous. I’m happy you’re doing that because it’s an important part of what we do. I’ve got to learn how to bring another level of that into my work as well, too, as well as appealing to the grassroots, which is critical.

And I’m a grassroots guy, so. Well, but that’s a critical. I think you, your ability to motivate and get people at the grassroots level is, Is something that politicians all dream they had. You know, that’s what we need and understanding and, and, and really understanding what’s going on because. And so that’s why, you know, I hope I appeal the grassroots people who can make a difference too. The point is, is any, you know, people in positions of influence is who I want to get to. And that includes people who are part of the grassroots movements too.

Absolutely. Yeah. It’s just really getting people who are committed to. They have to understand stuff. And you’re not going to understand it if you don’t have the best people you can find. And I’m not talking the most famous and I’m not talking the people who are necessarily in the positions of power because some of those people don’t have a clue what’s going on. You know what I mean? Like somebody who’s put into a. A position of power does not have as much understanding as some of the engineers that or whoever’s working around them. I see the proof of that.

I was given a list very quickly. I was given a list of people in Congress who are on the payroll of the deep state directly. And Greg Stenstrom has done great research on this as well too. And then I listen to these people talk in their public forums and some of them sound like blithering idiots. And I’m saying if I was teaching a class on finance or the economy or military prowess, you’d fail. You wouldn’t get past the midterm. And you’re absolutely right about that. Sarah. We are out of time. So since I talked about your show, you got to tell people how they can find your show.

Well, go to Sarah westall dot com. Thank you so much, Dave. I always appreciate it. Go to sarawestall.com and sign up for my newsletter that automatically signs you up for my sub stack at where you get. I send out a lot of stuff from there. Also find me on Rumble or any of the major platforms. And please subscribe. And when you are watching, remember to like because that like the show and yours too. When anybody watches these shows, their algorithms are based on how many people like the video. I agree. And we need people liking these videos.

And I, I’m bad at it. I watch videos and I don’t like it. And that’s not good. And so I have to keep reminding myself because that’s what the algorithms are based on. Me too. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you hear me talk about the shows I really like and respect. You know, I talk about Doug Thornton, I talk about Paul Preston. And you can see why I talk about Sarah Westall. This is prima facie evidence why you should follow her. Thanks so much, Sarah. Always great to have you on. Thank you, Dave. I really appreciate it.

God bless.
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