Jon Dowling Dave Sandoval Discuss Latest Health Updates Sept 2025

➡ In this podcast, the CEO of Perium, Dave Sandoval, shares the company’s journey and philosophy. Perium, a health-focused company, was founded with the belief that the quality of food we consume directly impacts our health. The company’s breakthrough came when they developed a technology to dry food without heat, preserving its nutritional value. Despite challenges, Perium has grown steadily, driven by a mission to improve health rather than profit, and continues to thrive by providing high-quality, organic products.
➡ The speaker discusses a product called Aqua Vibrance, which is designed to improve the quality of water. It changes the molecular structure of water to a hexagonal shape, making it easier for the body to use. It also increases the water’s conductivity by adding minerals, making it more beneficial for the body. The product, made from black mica, is also being tested for its ability to remove harmful substances like lead, microplastics, and forever chemicals from water.
➡ The text discusses the benefits of a product called ‘Can’t Beat This’, which is a beet juice supplement. The product helps increase endurance and recovery time during workouts by increasing nitric oxide in the body, which improves blood flow and oxygen delivery. The text also mentions a hair, skin, and nails product that works by suppressing a stress hormone and providing necessary nutrients. Lastly, it explains California’s Prop 65, which requires labeling of certain substances in products, and how it applies to concentrated spinach powder due to its weight percentage.
➡ The text discusses the creation and benefits of various health products, including a power shake and darkberry protein. The creator emphasizes the importance of using natural ingredients, such as oat bran and rice bran, despite criticism. He also mentions the development of a vegan collagen product. The creator’s commitment to maintaining the wisdom of his mentors and providing healthy, convenient products to consumers is highlighted throughout the discussion.
➡ The company is reminding people about their product, Pineal Clear, and is working on a new Omega 3 DHA product sourced from algae, expected to launch in the next six months. This product is part of their lifespan program and aims to provide essential fatty acids that are usually found in fish, making it suitable for vegans. They also mentioned that they have gift cards available for their brand partners to share with friends in Europe. Lastly, they encourage people to consider their health and lifestyle choices, suggesting that their products could be a beneficial part of that.

Foreign and welcome to our monthly podcast with Perium. On the health side we have a very special treat. We have one of the other CEOs, Mr. Dave Sandoval joining us from his humble abode who has graciously giving him, given us his time and attention as a Conover company. Not easy to do. And he’s gracing us with his presence. We’re going to talk about all things Perium and product lines he has, what different philosophies constituted the makeup of the company when he started it and much more. So if you’re new to the podcast, please do like subscribe and share.

It helps the channel grow and others to gain in the knowledge you’ve been afforded. Dave, good sir, how are you this fine afternoon? I’m feeling blessed, John. Thank you for inviting me to join you today. Thanks for being here. We appreciate your time. It’s most one of the most important things you can give a person and your energy, of course. So Dave, I want to start a little bit backwards, talk a little bit about the company, how long it’s been in business and what was the moment when you were first creating these products. If you can remember back when that you had sort of an aha moment.

You’re like I think we got something special here. Well, thank you for asking that. You know, so the purpose of the company is to help people to overcome challenges in their life that might be health related. And you know, the philosophy of the company is that the quality of the food that you eat is going to sort of really affect the quality of the life that you live from a physiological sense. And the moment that I knew we had something really special is when I was sitting with a gentleman. Now I could still remember, you know, that moment where he said, Dave, I know a person who has developed a technology that could dry food without using any heat, without using any binder filler, excipient and will give you a living quality food in a powdered form that will be stable for two years.

And I didn’t believe him and I got in my car and I drove 16 hours to meet him. And that’s where it all began. Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you for the succinct and yet wonderful explanation. It’s in the name purium. So obviously the purity is important. We’ve talked about this in the past, but I haven’t had you on in a little while. How did you start back then and how are you able to still maintain the purity and the high integrity quality of the products that people are getting on A regular basis. Okay, we’re going to take two steps backwards, please.

I was working for a Japanese pharmaceutical company. I was working for the hundredth richest man in the world, he was very fond of saying. And I was working for a company that claimed to make dried barley juice powder that was pure, that was organic, and that had living enzymes, like the living quality of food. And when I kept asking him for certificates of analysis that would prove that to me as his, you know, his. His top salesperson in the company, his gaijin, his American representative, right Then he didn’t provide it. And he kept saying, you need to trust me.

And so I took my own money and I sent it to laboratories for testing. And it was 40% maltodextrin, essentially a sugar. It did not have living enzymes. And so it wasn’t pure. It wasn’t like a living food. And then, unfortunately, it had traces of agricultural chemicals, pesticides, and herbicides. And so I asked The Japanese owner, Dr. Hagiwara, to come to America and have a very important meeting with me where I was going to help him to do something that was going to be revolutionary within the company. And the reason why was because after learning the things that I learned, I prayed and I asked great Creator to bring answers to me.

And that is when I had this technology delivered to me in just an incredible fashion. That’s when Charlie Fox told me that he could deliver this technology through someone that he knew. And I drove those 16 hours, and I then ran additional tests to verify. And that is when the grain Kamut was delivered to me miraculously. And the most ancient grain with the purest genetic code and the purest soil and a process that could dry the juice of that green food into a powder instantly. All of this was brought to me through prayer. And so I called Dr.

Dr. Hagar over and I said, I’ve studied your food, and I know that it’s been misrepresented, that it is not pure, that it’s not organic, that is not alive. But here’s what I want to share with you, some really good news, because I can now help you turn that into the truth. I could help you create a raw, pure, organic, living food. And he fired me on the spot. He told me I was a used car salesman and I would never be more than that. And how dare I challenge his greatness, his supremacy? Well, I don’t think of anybody as being supreme except for our Creator, you know, and so.

And so I accepted him firing me. And I decided to go in business competition with him and so I took what money I had saved from my previous experience as a money manager and on Wall Street, I took every penny I had saved during that lifetime. And I called his number one customer from Australia and I told him what I had learned and told him what I had a possibility. And he sent me enough money to start the company when I added it to the money I had. And so we began to create and sell the world’s first raw, pure, organic green food extracts out of the most ancient grain with only 12 chromosomal pairs versus modern grains with 24 or 26 or more.

And it was from that humble beginnings putting faith so much faith was necessary. And if you read the story, I lived in a 1200 foot warehouse. That was my home, that was my warehouse, that was my protection facility, that was my garage. That was everything. And in year one, we sold a hundred thousand dollars. In year two, 250,000. And year three, a half a million. By year four, we had hit a million dollars a year in sales. And today we’re multiple millions every month in sales. We don’t make much money. I’ll be honest with you, John, we’re still doing it that way through the mission, through the vision, through the purpose.

But we’re changing millions of lives and doing it the right way. Not being driven by money, by mom and, but being driven by wanting to help, you know, God’s children. When your purpose is pure and optimistic and tender hearted, I, I think that tends to be the rule of thumb. But hopefully with podcasts like ours that will help increase awareness to the quality. Right. And I mean, I’m using, I was thinking about this one talk about a year and eight months now. And I’ve seen a very steady and, and constancy of improvement in my life, you know, month over month, year over year.

And the people that I talk to, that I have an opportunity to talk to that are using it, are finding similar success as well. I’m seeing it also with people that reorder. So that’s usually an indicator. And that’s really great. I mean, it’s really great to see something that you believe in, that gave birth, that took off and had legs and is still continuing. And you’re a person, I know you, Dave, is about service to others, is about humility, is about servitude. And that’s one of the things we have in common. And so I think, you know, this story, even in its infancy stages to now, where there may be still that same pattern of growth, is still having the same purpose and is dare I see getting.

Getting better. So with that in mind, where do you see in your mind’s eye? I know Amy has her complimentary points of view, which is great, but in your vision of things, where do you see Perium going in the next three to five years, 10 years? We’ll say, well, you know, I was just want to tell a little backstory if I can. The National Cancer Institute created a word called phytochemistry. And that’s when they discovered that food could actually fight disease better than any drug that had ever been created. And they created this word, phytochemistry. And they featured three different companies that they believed were the leaders in phytochemistry 31 years ago.

And I was featured as one of those three companies. Our little tiny company that had barely started selling. Right. Word had gotten out of what we had done. And two other companies were also featured. And they asked me, where do you think you’ll be in 10 years? And I said, you know, I’m just going to be serving, you know, serving people, serving mankind, growing as fast as people are aware. We’re only going to grow as fast as people recognize the importance of what we’re doing. And they asked the other two companies, and the other two companies said, we’re going to be selling 100 million, 200 million.

Right. Well, those companies are gone. They no longer exist. And they didn’t last very long because they weren’t in servitude. They hadn’t recognized that what they had in their hand was a gift to humanity. And it would only be their company would only grow as fast as humanity recognized that gift. And so the answer today is the same answer it was then, I Hope will be 10 times bigger, John, because that means we’ll have saved 10 times more lives. But, John, I need people like you. I need people who are listening to you. We need to get this word out.

But with so much fake news in the world today put out by pharmaceutical companies and drug companies, and they have these ads on the air and they’re saying, we could give you this drug that might help a little bit. And then some voice comes on and says, and you might die and your liver might get destroyed and you might go blind and you may never walk again. And people, they don’t even hear that because they trust the drug companies that much. We have to change the trust conversation, John, to where they trust God and nature. Yeah, but where did that.

When’s that conversation going to start? So I’m sorry for the long answer. To a short question. No, it’s fine. It is what it is. I mean, it’s organic, whatever you. Some things are more succinct, some things are more elongated in dialogue, and that’s, that’s totally fine. Yeah, well, I mean, I think my audience is pretty, pretty free of that problem. They’re truthers and people who are seeking truth and are self aware and proactive in other things. And health is, as Ian always says as well. So they’re very much intercorrelated. So we all have a very, I would say for the majority of us, a pretty healthy distrust of big harmonkia that are going against the grain.

And, you know, we could just leave it at that. But as you know, definitely I’ve been, like I said, using these products and I’ve stayed away from, you know, Big Pharma for a number of years and I haven’t regretted or looked back ever since. You’ll note that as we’re talking, obviously just in the natural course of any podcast to do I hydrate drinking water? I thought for some reason as you were talking, that might be a good sort of segue to discussing with you one of the products that complements water, and that is, I’ll put up to the camera, Aqua Vibrance.

Let me see if I can turn the label here a little bit so you can see it. There we go. And I’ll bring it to the audience, see it better. Can you see that, Dave? I can. Okay. I want to make sure if you can see it, my audience might have a shot and it’s better looking than me anyway. So with this product, talk a little bit about how you came up. How did you create it? We know the need with the crap they’re putting in tap water, but how did you come across it? How do you ensure its purity and what have you seen in the short and long term benefits of using it from your, your clients? All right, so I’m going to talk first about the first application and then I’m going to talk about future applications.

Okay, so the first application is. Have you heard of hexagonal water? I have not, no. Please go ahead. So there have been entire books written about the quality of water when it is hexagonal, when the, the matrix of it, the shape of it has eight sides. Okay. And. And most water will be totally denatured and have 12, you know, 11, 14 side, not 11, I’m sorry, 12, 14, you know, sides. And that makes it very difficult for your body to use. And so these, I can’t remember the name of the author, but there is a Japanese man who has written incredible books about how water is utilized by the body.

And so the first thing that this aqua vibrance does is it changes the shape of your water. It changes the molecular structure of your water to where it will be immediately recognized as water and brought into your interstitial fluid very easily, very quickly, so it can rehydrate your body faster than other waters. And this is really rare for there to be hexagonal water. Pure spring water coming directly out of the ground is usually the only water you’ll find. Like the water at my oasis is usually the only water you’ll find that is hexagonal. Now, the next thing is conductivity.

Conductivity is really important. And most water that is pure is only pure because it’s been stripped of everything. We’re talking about your, you know, your water that’s been reverse osmosis, you know, your water that has been basically created through steam, you know, and that type of process. These waters no longer have minerals in them. And so when you drink them, their ability to support your body in that way is gone. And you could tell if you do a meter that tests, you know, this conductivity, as we have done so many times on videos and shown that those waters, you know, basically are devoid of conductivity.

And if you put just a few drops of aqua vibrance in that same water, it will immediately become highly conductive. Which means these processes within your body where electrolytes, which is another word for minerals, right? They’re called electrolytes because they help electricity be conducted across the matrix of your body. So the conductivity is immediately raised as well. There is probably five or six measurable ways that Aqua vibrance improves the quality of water. That, again, are both measurable, verifiable. And we have, you know, published our, I guess, our statement on those. And so they are. The reason why you drink water is.

Is its purity, right? Its ability to rehydrate you. Its ability to deliver electrolytes to your body. And the reason why you drink water, all the reasons why you drink water are supported by aqua vibrance. But some of the reasons you don’t want to drink water are also addressed, like lead in water, right? Like what. What you will find hardened water which makes water not good for your body could contribute to kidney stones and these other things like that. But there’s also things in water like microplastics and forever chemicals and so many other things that make water potentially dangerous to you and not support Life.

We are currently running tests on Aquavibrance that are going to show that they are going to address forever chemicals, that they’re going to address microplastics, that they’re going to address lead, that they’re going to address hardened water. And our pre tests have shown that within minutes. Within minutes. So if you’re sitting at a restaurant and your water smells a little too much like chemicals, you could put a few drops in your water and within minutes it will no longer smell like fluoride, chlorine. Yeah, exactly, chloramine and these other things that are in that water in order to keep it, quote, safe.

And if you were to let that water sit, if you bought water at the store and let it sit overnight for 24 hours, you’re going to see a dramatic drop, a significant drop in all of the heavy metals. Okay? You see a dramatic, a significant drop in the hardening in the hardened water. You’re going to see a dramatic, if not significant drop in all of these suspended things. And we believe we’re going to prove microplastics and forever chemicals as well. The things I mentioned are the things we have already verified over and over with tests. And so we’re not yet selling it as a water purifier.

That’s a different classification. Okay, with the fda. So we’re currently selling it as restructure, you know, as enhance. But the next stage is to show just how next level this is. Now, this product is made from black Micia. And if you look up the history of black mica, when the sewage system in Mexico was going to have to be completely torn down, completely remade at billions and billions and billions of dollars and tens of years, this Japanese scientist came in with a black mica treatment and, and literally purified the Mexican system that had drugs and chemicals.

And, you know, all these things built up to such an extent that they didn’t think they’d ever be able to rejuvenate it. And so this is the power of black mica. This is the history of black mica. And we have now created an extract of black mica that can be put, it’s a clear liquid that can be put into your water and within minutes show dramatic reductions and taste profile incredibly rejuvenated. In 24 and 48 hours, depending upon how long you’re willing to wait, you will see dramatic reductions in all those things. I said with 48 hours being more than 24, but 24 being so significant that it literally will blow your mind.

This is next level. We are currently running tests on. On microplastics. And microplastic is found in all bottled water. And you found out that even the glass bottles have microplastics in the sealant on their cap. Really? Yes. And the microplastics on the ceiling, on the cap are so soft that they actually very easily enter the body. So it’s really a shame, you know, so. So we have to do something about it. And I believe that Aqua Vibrance is that thing. Yeah, I think you’re on the right track with that. And also, just as a compliment, I found I’ve said this to Ian before, so I don’t know if I said you as well, Dave, but I’ve used Can’t Beat this.

It’s been one of my most favorite products of all the library appearing products, particularly when I work out because I’m in a basketball league with other guys. Age ranges from teenage to, you know, 60s, so it’s a wide net and wide skill sets and different heights and this and that. But you’re. You’re running all, you know, for the whole entire morning for about three hours, pretty consistently. You know, a lot of stops and starts, backpedaling, you know, different undulations of the body and such. And since I’ve been using the can’t beat this, I drink it at home in a glass a half an hour before I go to work out, and then I drink it throughout the morning in my large water bottles.

And I. I’ve noticed less lactic acid, quicker recovery time, more oxidization of the bloodstream. My endurance is up. I still marvel at it, even though I know what the product is and what it does. How is it so effective in doing that? It’s still a mystery to me. Well, beet juice itself is just a miracle to me. I mean, it helps your body, you know, to. To increase its nitric oxide. It helps the body to increase vascular integrity. And with that larger capacity of every blood cell, you’re literally moving oxygen to the extremities of your body through, you know, so in your capillaries, just a little bit of fun science.

Your capillaries are the ones that run closest to your skin, and they only are big enough to have one blood cell at a time pass through. And if your heart isn’t pumping well enough, just imagine they’re moving slower, right? But imagine if every blood cell is bigger. Just think about that. If you blow up, you know, these pool toys for your kids and they’re not blown up enough, right? Or if they are blown up Enough. That’s the difference, right? That nitric oxide is making every blood cell. Vascular integrity is the fancy word for it makes every blood cell carry more oxygen and get fatter.

That means that your capillaries, just by sheer volume, have to move faster because the one behind them is expanding and pushing it forward. So all of a sudden you feel like you’re like, wait a minute. This can’t even be possible. I’ve been working out for two hours, and I still feel the same as when I came into the gym. I might even feel a little bit better. Right? And your recovery time is faster because it’s helping your body deal with that conversion. So a little more science. Your body has. Has adenosine triphosphate. That means there’s three phosphate bonds, right? Attached.

And when one of those phosphate bonds come off, it’s like the piston in your car burning some gasoline. When the next phosphate bond comes off, it’s like another piston, right? But then what’s left is called lactic acid. And so what. What. What the bee juice helps you do is actually rejuvenate and regenerate those bonds. So instead of turning into lactic acid so fast, you might use it two or three times, recycling your own energy. And so, you know, beet juice is. Is crazy cool. And I drink it twice a day. And I’m on your. I’m on your team that way for sure.

Oh, brother. I had no doubt about that. I just want to let you know for myself personally, extolling the virtues that product. I mean, I’ve showed it to so many guys with basketball because they’re like, how are you not getting winded? How are you getting more endurance? And I’m like, well, I exercise throughout the week and I take my walks with God and I, you know, I ground. That’s part of it. And getting enough sunlight. But in conjunction with that, this product has just been. I can’t say enough good things about it. A couple other quick products because I.

I’ll leave the end. I want to ask you about new product offerings, things that you’re either have coming on the website or things you’re in the works that you can talk about legally. This product is. I really enjoyed this to the Hair, skin and nails product and see if we can see that. I’ve noticed that, you know, my skin and nails and hair responding favorably. Every time I go to the stylist every couple of months, he’s like, man, your hair is growing consistently. And I mean, I’ve been blessed, you know, some good genetics of course. But I really did do think there’s something to this product line.

So again, short articulation, if you would, about why this product is so effective. Well, first thing you have to do is smother out DHT in your scalp. Okay. That’s inhibiting your follicles from starting. And so that’s a stress hormone. And so this has got a couple of ingredients that help to smother out dht. And so that creates a playing field that it’s going to allow the silica, right. And to allow all these proteins and the precursors and all of this stuff to actually come together. It’s just like building the soil for you to grow your garden.

Okay. So the first thing you have to do is get the weeds out and then you have to put all the right nutrients in. So I know that we don’t have much time, but the key is, and if you read the label, you’ll see that we’re smothering out the dht, we’re enhancing the silica, we’re driving up the quality proteins and then the complementary nutrients are all provided. There’s a whole bunch of ingredients in there. I’m not going to try to go over all of those right now, but when you read that label, if you want to Google those ingredients, I think it’ll blow your mind.

What I think is particularly cool. Thank you, Dave. Is that when you go to the website, you guys have thoughtfully done a detail in terms of the ingredients and, you know, transparency. Forgetting Prop 65 in California requires the transparency listing of ingredients. But you guys are taking a step further. I don’t know if people can see it, but you list the ingredients, then you have this little QR code that people can scan and can get more drill down and specifics of what’s in the product, the transparency, the breakdown of all the different products and natural nutrients and how they work together.

I think it’s a very thoughtful way to go about it. And also being, you know, again, open and transparent with your clientele, which we attract, we attract like really smart people. You know what I mean? Because if you’re not smart, I don’t mean it that way, but if you’re not looking at the details, you’ll accept other companies crap, right? You know, but when you really know what you’re talking about, you come to Purium. Well, what you’re, what you’re attracting ultimately, Dave, I agree, is a more like our audience. And I’m not, you know, cozying up to them.

I’m just, you know, My audience knows that I want them to be more granular, critical thinking and drill down to specifics with the other things we do. And this is no exception, being around some of your conferences, like last year, which I videotaped and showed my audience, the people that I observed there, they’re, they’re very critical thinking, they’re very natural product, organic oriented and they’re very sort of myopic with their rover’s eye about, you know, what they’re doing, what they’re involved in, what they’re putting into their body. Hey, let’s talk about Prop 65, please. Okay, so if you took 10 pounds of spinach, right, it would not be labeled Prop 65.

You could eat all 10 pounds of it would never be labeled Prop 65. If you were to take that spinach juice. Excuse me, that spinach and juice it, right, and make spinach juice, it would still not be labeled Prop 65. But if you were to remove the water from that juice to make it into a spinach powder, now it’s very, very light, right? And it would need to be labeled Prop 65 because Prop 65 is a percentage by weight. Now, the spinach itself, it would never apply to spinach by, you know, percentage, by weight. It wouldn’t even come close in the juice with the liquid, the water still there.

It would not even come close to Prop 65. But when you remove the two heaviest things, right, the fiber and the moisture, all of the nutrients are concentrated down, down, down, down, down to where you could get all of them in just a couple of spoonfuls, right? But unfortunately, you could also get whatever other minerals might have been in the soil. And as you know, healthy soil does have a little bit of lead, you know, and so that’s just the truth. I mean, a critical mind could clearly see that you remove 50% of the weight, excuse me, 25% of the weight with the fiber and then another 95% of the weight with the water.

And what you’re left with is a beautiful, you know, fine powder, but it’s also a concentration that’s just 3% of what it once was. By way. Good point. Thank you. Thanks for the in depth analysis and the breakdown. I appreciate that. I’m sure the audience does as well. Just a couple other products before we get into the new lines. Stuff that’s pretty staples, pretty standard. I use this every day as my breakfast, quite frankly, with coffee and very specific coffee at that is of course, the power shake and the darkberry protein, which you can do combo standalone or you can do with the ult, the ultimate lifestyle transformation, what Ian calls the gut cleanse or the reset, which he recommends, I believe once a quarter, certainly at least twice a year.

Talk a bit about these products and how you came up with them. And also, do you recommend a gut cleanse every quarter, or do you think twice a year is sufficient? Right in the middle? Three times a year. And so the thing is, is that about. Remember when, like, two years ago, everybody was coming out with these collagen products and they were so unhealthy, and the source of the collagen was so questionable. And everybody keeps asking us, why don’t you guys have a collagen product? Why don’t you have a collagen product? And we asked ourselves, why don’t we have a collagen product? You know what I mean? There was no real reason for us not to, other than no one had ever asked us for it.

And so I started doing some research, and we found our European partner. We have. For a lot of you don’t know that we are across Europe as well. And our European partner is just a really good. She’s just really good as a alchemist. Her and I make a great team, and she helps run the European operation. And she said, dave, I’d love to make a collagen product because I’m getting a little bit older, and I want this for myself. And I said, oh, my God, I’ve been wanting a collagen product. And she goes, well, you know, it has to be vegan.

And I said, of course, you know, I know you’re a vegan, so, yeah, let’s do this. And so we did the research. The lysine and all the different sources of the right proteins and the combinations and just everything it would need to support your body creating healthy collagen fast. Not waiting 90 days or six months. Like, we wanted you to see results with within, like, 30 days, you know, and. And as, you know, this delivers that. And so our collagen protein is what we call, I’m sorry, our darkberry protein. You know, it could be called collagen protein.

It could be called, you know, darkberry collagen, but, you know, we kept it simple. And I personally have begun using it now, and just about, like I said, about maybe two months ago, and I don’t know if I’m allowed to show, but I’m 63 and, you know, I don’t have the. You know, I don’t have anything happening underneath my neck. I’m. I’m you know, proud of the fact I don’t have wrinkles and, you know, and, you know, I could lift up my shirt and there’s not all that creepy stuff, you know, my arms still look like arms, you know, and, and so I’m really.

I needed to start using it now. I’m like, I can’t wait to where I need it. You know what I mean, John, Try, start using it. So I decided to do a preventive measure and I’m using it every day now, twice a day now. And, and I like it. But the green food, obviously I’m a green. I’m a green food, you know, devotee. I’m a student of Ann Wigmore, Bernard Jensen, Hannah Kroger, you know, all of these people are no longer with us. And they made me promise that I would not let their wisdom and knowledge die when they were no longer with us.

I spent, you know, Bernard Jensen, when he was 92, until the time he was almost 94. I went to see him once a week and I took notes as he told me all the things he didn’t want to be lost when he died. You know, Ann Wigmore, I spent, you know, so much time with her in Boston, you know, energy soup and, you know, and wheat grass and all these things, you know, that we fed to people every day. And, and so I wanted to make that easy. I want to make all these, all this wisdom, you know, that was passed on to me.

I wanted to make it convenient on a daily basis so that people could have dozens of superfoods of herbs, of extracts at their fingertips just mailed to their doorstep. And that was my promise, you know, to these, to these legends, truly legends. You know, I knew Jean Clement when she was 119 years old. She lived to be 123. You know, I interviewed dozens of octogenarians and asked them, how did you get to be 1011-021031-04106. And that wisdom is not going to go away. It’s going to be here living with me and with you as this company grows negative.

And not only to live long, but equally importantly, to live well. You know, I mean, if you’re, you know, to 100 and whatever, 10, it’s the health span. It’s not your lifespan, it’s your health span. Exactly, exactly. And so, yeah, I just think that’s interesting, the genesis of how these products work together, you know, the story behind them. And I think it’s particularly cool that you took your mentors, we’ll call them and spears of influence that you, you just mentioned. And you’ve kept their legacy going forward and, and now you’re leaving a legacy as well through Purium and all the people it employs and the community that it helps and the, the whole of society that gets to use and benefit from it.

Because you took that leap of faith risk back then with the Japanese gentleman that you broke away from and decided to, you know, do what you felt was right and integrable. And we’re all benefiting from that. So thank you for that. May I, may I just say that, please? You know, I was really drawn that I would use oat brown and rice brown. Mostly I wanted to use oat brown. But the rice bran had some really good qualities to it. And the reason why is because oat bran and rice bran turn into gum, what are called gummy beta glucans.

And these gummy beta glucans are really good for your heart. And they’re really good because they’ll hold all the nutrients from the green foods against your intestines and sort of feed them through the intestines over a couple of hours instead of them just going through like you go to the juice bar and drink a juice and it goes poof, you know, right through. So I wanted there to be some dwell time and I, I took some criticism, John. As you know, they’re like, what are these two ingredients? They’re just bulking agents, you know, and, but I stood my ground.

I didn’t change. I said, if you want, without them, we have three other products that are pure green juice. Just have one of those. Right, we have those for you too. But I’m not going to change the power shake. Well, over the last 90 days, 120 days, there have been multiple reports come out that say these two brand, these two types of brand, eliminate forever chemicals from our bodies. Forever chemicals are called forever chemicals because they said once you get them in your body, you can’t get them out. And so, I mean, you know, it’s hard to stand your ground sometime it’s hard to face the criticism sometime.

It’s hard to look at the other quote experts and say, I’m sorry, you’re really smart, but I, I’ve got to disagree with you on this, you know. But John, we stood our ground. We wouldn’t change what we knew was right. And we told people, if you want a pure green juice, we have three other products that are pure green juices, you know. Yeah, but if you, if you want to do the ult you know, please trust me on this. And this is the, the verification, the validation, you know, that when I sit and pray to great Creator, I’m not led astray.

You know, he always provides the wisdom and the discernment if you ask for it. Right. The word says you have not because you asked not. And I know you’re pretty devoid of that problem, which is a great thing. Humility is a great teacher. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And you know, I think the thing that is sort of underscored, Dave, in your whole, for lack of a better term, thesis is the aspect that you are uncompromising and on unapologetically integrable and honest. There’s a lot to be said for integrity and it’s lacking these days. And I think people are hungry for it, they’re looking for it in whatever aspects they can find it.

And as far as I’m concerned, you’ve delivered that wholly through the educational and the provisional aspect of the product in terms of its makeup. Last question for today on this is, and I alluded to it earlier, what new products do you have out or things do you have in the works that you can talk about that people can look forward to? Well, first of all, we have to just remind people about Pineal Clear. Yes, the most amazing product that nobody seems to be aware of yet. But don’t worry, take your time. It’s going nowhere. Okay, Just take your time, but put it in the back of your mind.

Even just get a test bottle and try it. Okay? But so we have, in Europe, we have an incredible Omega 3 DHA, you know, algal sourced essential fatty acid. Right. And it is amazing. It’s part of our, our lifespan program in Europe. And when you look at the research, they say two or three times a day you’re supposed to be having high quality salmon or mackerel or sardines. Right? But I don’t know anybody who does that. I really don’t. I don’t even know one person unless they’re from Norway or, you know, or from Russia or something, you know.

And so we are going to make it possible within the next six months. Okay. I would say by my birthday in March, maybe sooner, maybe as soon as January. Merry Christmas, you know, but, but we are working diligently on getting the import licenses and getting the supplier certified. And this is going to be an incredible product that will help us fulfill our lifespan program and make it very easy for people to get that. Two to three servings. Ours will be daily, right? Two to three servings of high Quality essential fats from. From fish. But we have a lot of vegans in our world, you know, and so they’re not going to eat fish even if they could.

And so we’re going to be able to provide this for everybody. Now, remember, Beef Patient, it’s three to six months away, but it’s going to be our most important new product we’ve launched in 10 years. Wow. Impressive. Thank you. Since Biomimedic, however many years that’s been. Yeah, a number of years at the very least. Just backing up real quick. I had several months ago, I had somebody on my rumble subscriber who asked about the Perium products you mentioned. The woman you’re working with, I believe, in Germany. Are there any products, Martina? Yeah, any products that Perium makes? Because obviously you’re here in California like me, so we’re a little bit, you know, privileged to just be able to get easy access, but everybody else gets it shipped in America.

But with respect to overseas in Germany, are there any products that are prohibitive overseas that Param offers or do they have everything, access to everything that we have here in America? You know, they don’t, they don’t sell much of the biomedic because they don’t have glyphosate really over there, you know, and so it’s not as necessary for them. And that would be the main difference is that they really don’t sell much of the Biomic. Okay, good to know. Okay, I didn’t have an answer to that question for the. Now remember, if you’re a premium brand partner, we have put two gift cards in your back office for you to use.

250 gift cards in case you want to say hi to one of your friends in Europe and give them a chance to try our products. I didn’t know that. Okay, I’ll have to, I’ll have to look into that. Thank you, Dave. I’ll look into that and see if I can re engage that subscriber and let them know or certainly could put it out there for them. So I will definitely do that. Well, as we wrap things up, Dave, because I want to respect your time. I know you still have a company to run and I want to keep everybody here all day.

We’ll put our link in the description. Of course, we’ll probably run it through the scroll here so people know where to access it. If you use my code, JD Capital, JD Health, you’ll get $25 off of your first order over 75 and 25% off anything over 199 and you can contact Perium, you can order online or their customer service client of mine ordered on the phone, had a great experience dealing with them, good staff. So you have a bunch of options there. But we’ll leave those links below in the scroll and description. Dave, any last thoughts that you have for the audience today? You’d like to share almost every big decision you’ve made in your life.

There was a process you went through. First of all, you realized that something needed to change in your life. And then you realize that it wasn’t going to change if you didn’t do something. And then that something appeared to you. Those are the first steps to radical change in your life. But the next step is the most important. You took that action. You called John, you looked on his website, you talked to somebody he knows that you know, that tried this. I’m not trying to sell you anything. I promise you I’m not here to sell you anything.

I am not a salesman. I am here because I believe that too many people are suffering. I believe that 95% of the people taking pharmaceutical drugs in line to see the doctor should not be there. And I know that your body is capable of living to be 120 years old. The question is, do you want that? Is there enough in your life that’s important that, that you care about that’s worth living for? And if there is, write down all the things that are worth living for and then look at that list and ask yourself, how long are you going to be living strong enough? Long enough to be here for that? Because I’m not trying to sell you anything.

John is not trying to sell you anything. You already spend money on food. You already spend money on doctors. You already spend money on drugs. Let’s reapportion where you spend money based upon your importance. Well said. Can’t top that, so I’ll leave it there. And again, we’ll leave the link in the description again. Dave Sandoval. Thank you, sir. Co founder of Purim along with Amy. Thanks for joining us on this busy day. I hope you have a great rest of your week. Thank you for the support and we’ll look forward to seeing you shortly. Have a blessed day.

You too.
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