Bidens Corrupt FBI Framed Constitutional Sheriff Pardoned by Trump

➡ This summary is about a webinar hosted by the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA). The guest was Sheriff Scott Jenkins from Culpepper, Virginia, who discussed his recent legal issues. The webinar also touched on the importance of supporting the CSPOA, the need for more funding, and the potential threats to the US financial system. The host encouraged viewers to consider investing in gold and silver, and to support the organization by purchasing products from their site.
➡ The speaker, a small-town sheriff, was questioned by FBI agents about alleged misuse of campaign funds. He cooperated fully, allowing them to search his home and seize his cell phones. He claims the money in question was in his gun vault, ready to be reported in the next campaign report. He criticizes the agents’ conduct and suggests that he is being targeted by the government, comparing his situation to others who have faced similar scrutiny.
➡ The speaker, Scott, has faced legal challenges and believes he was targeted by the government due to his political stance and actions. He mentions a conflict with Governor Northam over a gun ban bill and suggests a connection with former FBI head, James Comey. Scott also discusses a plan to expose crimes allegedly committed by Hunter Biden, found on a laptop hard drive. He believes his phone was tapped and that this led to further legal issues for him.
➡ A small-town sheriff named Wayne received a serious phone call, asking him to join a group of sheriffs in a risky mission. Despite the danger, he agreed, and his life changed dramatically in the following weeks. He believes that his phone was tapped during this time and that the information he discussed was passed up the chain of command, possibly even to the President. Despite facing opposition and challenges, he remains committed to his role as a sheriff and encourages others to understand and exercise their authority.
➡ The speaker, a former sheriff, feels that his authority and that of other sheriffs has been eroded over time. He believes he was unfairly treated in a court case, where he was accused of swearing in unqualified deputies. He argues that the court did not fully understand or consider the specific laws and requirements for a sheriff in Virginia. He feels that he was wrongly convicted and sentenced to prison based on false information and a misunderstanding of his role and authority as a sheriff.
➡ The speaker, a former sheriff, defends his actions that were under scrutiny, arguing that he acted within his authority and followed Virginia’s standards. He explains that sheriffs have wide discretion to swear in auxiliaries and hire almost anyone they want, and that he did not violate this authority. He criticizes the judges for their handling of his case and others, suggesting that they are putting innocent people in prison and letting guilty people go free. He expresses gratitude for a pardon from President Trump, which prevented him from going to prison.
➡ The speaker discusses their experience with the legal system after receiving a pardon from the President. Despite the pardon, they were still required to report to prison and follow strict rules, including not being able to possess a firearm. They express frustration at the slow process of being released from these restrictions. The speaker also debates the idea of appointed versus elected sheriffs, arguing that elected sheriffs are more accountable to the people they serve.
➡ The speaker discusses the Epstein case and its impact on President Trump, suggesting that the public doesn’t know all the details that the President and his team do. They advise Trump to be more direct about why certain information can’t be released, due to potential impacts on the country. The speaker also expresses respect for Trump’s team and believes they deserve the benefit of the doubt. Lastly, they touch on the unfairness of the federal court system and express gratitude for the support they’ve received.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of the CSPOA’s Wednesday weekly webinar. Myself, Jack Mullen, today with a special guest, Sheriff Scott Jenkins of Culpepper, Virginia. We’ve spoken to Scott before and we’re happy to have him back on again today. Sheriff Mack is out of town, flying back. He called me a short while ago saying that he was delayed and then delayed and then he said then he got a delay. And so as a result of that, he was going to be late getting into the airport and getting out of the airport and back home. He might be able to drop into the tail end of this, but he wasn’t that optimistic.

But we were able to speak with Mr. Jenkins, and we’re happy that we’re going to be able to put him on today for a little bit, follow up of his ordeal. But in the meantime, let me remind everyone, these shows are more and more watched and there are more and more people participating in this organization as posse members who actually pay money and get, you know, some benefits for it. Scott Jenkins will understand that comment there, but we still need more help. And it is something that Sheriff Mack hopes to build into a large amount of following so that we can further this to every state conventions, every year in every state.

He’s planning a big event in Washington state, and there’s no better place to have it because as we all know, Washington state’s sheriffs are under attack. And. And I think it’s, you know, the opportune time to be there. But as a result of that, he’s going to need some more money. So we hope that you can encourage your friends, family, anybody that might be interest. We recommend that you share some of our videos. I know Stephanie busily creates four or five different smaller cuts of our weekly webinars, which are only for members, so that people can get a chance to see what we’re talking about here, get the inside story, get a chance to hear from people like Sheriff Scott Jenkins and others that we’ve had on.

I mean, we’ve had, you know, just so many amazing men from around the country that are standing up. And finally, I think a lot of them, you know, in the earlier days, they didn’t fully understand what it was to hold their position. And because their position is something that no one gets any education about, including them, they don’t come to the, you know, to the job the first time and are told. And by the way, you are the chief law enforcement officer of this county. You represent the people, you represent the Constitution. Sometimes you’re going to be asked to do things that are uncomfortable, stand up for the Constitution, for example, against the entire state.

And sometimes the federal government has Sheriff Scott Jenkins can attest to as well. So we hear from great men all over the United States and it’s, it’s a lot of fun. So recommend this to your friends and family also if you’re interested in donating a little bit. 10 bucks, 100 bucks, thousand bucks, $1 cspoa.org donate and of course take advantage of some of the things that we have that you can purchase on the site that are not marked up in price but they do benefit the cspoa. For example, amount of food storable foods. We all know that food supply has been damaged and they’re busily working on damaging the supplies of protein especially you know, one of the interesting things that I learned in my life was by moving to the basically the carnivore diet, all any health problems and symptoms that I had cleared up.

And one of the reasons is because most foods aren’t clean anymore and an animal will clean foods and then present it to you in a cleaner form. But basically it’s just a healthier way to eat. And, and that’s why they’re attacking chickens and beef ranches, burning down the fields. You name it, they’re doing it. Nevada Foods is a great way to pick up some storable foods. We also have products from Global Healing and of course we can sell you gold and silver. The US financial system is under attack and we all know that. And we know that the US dollar is scheduled for retirement and they’re planning to push us into a system of digital currencies, the central bank, digital currency, plus the idea of the new stablecoin which trumps about today.

Those are all means to move people away from privacy and to move them away from a means in which they can manage their money without a third party into a system that’s 100% controlled and monitored. And worse than that, you can be prevented from accessing your money or even being paid. So we recommend that you consider gold and silver for a variety of reasons. One, it holds your wealth. Number two is that it can be used if it in the future there may be a group of people decide we’re not going to play digital, you know, surveillance currencies with you.

We’re going to try to set up our own system. We’re going to use our own resources. Well, if you still have some of your original wealth in something outside of the system and that does not include dollar bills, then you’re going to be better off. So here we are today. Welcome to the show. And today with me is former sheriff, but sheriff in our mind, because once a sheriff, always a sheriff. Sheriff Scott Jenkins from Culpepper, Virginia. Welcome, sir, and it’s good to see you again. How you been doing Much better now. And it’s good to see you again.

Thank you for having me. We had you on, I think, two times prior to this. First time we had you on was prior to sentencing. And, you know, we heard your original story and Sheriff Mack went to bat for you and he never stopped talking about it thereafter. And I know that he, you know, felt very strongly about it in his own personal way, and all of us did. I mean, I wrote to the governor of Virginia hoping to get some response from him, but not knowing that I wouldn’t. He’s just a Republican in name only.

And you know, many others in this organization did the same thing. They wrote to people, attempted to do what little bit they could do to help you out. We know that all of that together is why you’re sitting here today and not unfortunately in a jail cell someplace. So we’re all thankful for that. But anyway, I’m going to play a little video for the people that are watching this first time and don’t really understand what happened to you. And it’s just a short video from Channel 4 out of Washington, D.C. where they explain a little bit.

And I’m saying a little bit, like maybe a minute’s worth of information about what your situation was. And then we’ll come back, Scott, and have you tell a little bit about how this happened and what you went through. And then we’ll go from there with other questions, et cetera. People, right now, if you’re interested in asking Sheriff Jenkins a question, go ahead and formulate it and do proper words and then either put it in the chat or the Q and A, either one of them will find it and. And then we’ll get to that because we have a good bit of time here today for people that want to ask Mr.

Jenkins questions. So that’s enough said. Now let me find the share button, click the sound share. That should do it. Jenkins told the court he plans to appeal his conviction. A jury convicted him on the conviction of former Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins. Jenkins told the court he plans to appeal his conviction. A jury convicted him of taking more than $70,000 in bribes in exchange for auxiliary deputy badges. Last month, the judge sentenced him to a decade in prison, but has not issued a date for him to start serving. On a webinar hosted by the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, Jenkins said he did not have money for an appeal, but is trying to find a way.

He said he hoped President Trump would intervene. I truly believe if I could get an hour of time with someone in the administration to sit down and lay out some facts on my attorney, and I really believe if they could hear the other side, which I couldn’t get in front of a jury, I believe. Well, I believe Trump. I believe wholeheartedly in the president. I believe if he heard the information, I know he would help if he knew my story. During the trial, News 4 asked Jenkins and his attorney if he would seek a pardon or clemency.

At the time, the sheriff did not respond. Okay, short and sweet. And we know that Channel four has always been on your side. You know, they’re out there trying to make everybody safe. But anyway, why don’t you start somewhere close to the beginning of this and, you know, you woke up one day and there was somebody at your door, I would imagine. I don’t know how it worked, but a lot to tell. So I’ll try to just give you a little thumbnail sketch of what might be important and feel free to ask whatever you’d like. I know we’ve covered some ground before.

So speaking to what the report was just in the news there, that, that tidbit fair what she said, you know, that just status update is all that was. So going back to the beginning when I was first approached by them, there’s actually a rooms they got me to show up at state police headquarters supposedly to talk about something else. And two agents were there to ask questions, which I didn’t ask for an attorney. I sat down, talked to him for a couple hours. No attorney, didn’t answer. Answered everything they asked and I will comment. That’s a good example.

If you compare it to many, many people in society who get that happen to them, generally dealing with them, you’ll get charged with some form of a l could be anything. But they search for any little thing they can say that you withheld or didn’t say completely truthfully and they charge you with that to threaten you with other things. Of course, that didn’t happen with me because I was honest with them. I talked with them for a couple hours and during that period I was willing to sit there and remain where I was, let them go to my home with a search warrant that they had in hand to Search my own.

They took my cell phones. They had a search warrant for those. They took those and seized them. And I was happy to sit there if they would have just went and executed the warrant at my home as I wanted them to. And this money that allegedly, this cash and other money that I took for my campaign, donations from these people that they set up in this thing, it was there, it was in my gun vault with other donations and all ready to be filed with the campaign report that was due the next period. But anyway, that didn’t happen.

And you know, I’ve said many times before to people, you know, if I, if I was a sheriff, employing detectives that behaved the way they did, I mean, firing them would be a minimum. So these are supposedly two ethical, professional FBI agents who are questioning me. And, well, I could go into a lot of things, how they conducted themselves in the days after that as well, with people at my office or my family and others. Unprofessional is putting it mildly. But nonetheless, if you’re in what have you local, you know, you take an oath and if you are given information or evidence that shows innocence of a suspect just as much as evidence, it may show guilt, you are obligated to follow that through.

You know, and it doesn’t have to be a murder, it doesn’t have to be any level, any crime that you’re investigating. You know, if there is evidence being handed to you, told to you, you know where it is, how you can find it, what the other story is, you know, you’re obligated, you are duty bound to follow that through. So that didn’t happen there. They, if you check the file, check the court record, I challenge anyone, you know, to refute it. It’s just a fact that a search warrant in hand that day when they talked with me in the end of January of 23, and it’s never been executed, it just sat and expired now.

And it’s good for days and weeks to follow. If it’s like the state warrants. I don’t, I don’t do federal law, but I just know that, you know, same as pretty much procedures, local. So, you know, they didn’t execute it that day or any days to follow. So it makes you wonder why. Well, I guess if you’re going to go there and you’re going to find these envelopes of cash that were given to me and I hadn’t got, because there’s one of several things has to happen. So if I have committed the crime that you’re alleging, taking it for personal gain, then I have either spent it and it’s gone, or maybe I’ve hidden it somewhere and I’m going to use it later.

But if it can’t be found, then, then yes, you could say that’s one, one leg to stand on to say Scott Jenkins is guilty of this crime. Because here we are approaching him and saying, where’s this money? You know, here we have videotapes, we have recordings, we have proof that you accepted this, you took it, had it in your hand, put in your pocket. Where did it go? What happened to it? Well, if I couldn’t produce it, then, yeah, I’d say absolutely I should be headed to court. But if it’s sitting at home in my house all that time, since it was handed to me, it’s in the same place it was.

And just so you know, it sat there for over two years till after, when I was convicted, it was still sitting. So my attorneys know this. What’s a number of people know this because I, you know, I was just, you know, from the beginning, sickened, just livid that, that they are, you know, framing this, this situation the way they are. But, but I realized, you know, it didn’t take me too long, honestly, you’re kind of numbed at first, but it didn’t take me too long to realize, okay, this is the full weight of the Biden administration, the DOJ or whoever it is behind this that’s coming after me and they’re going to do anything.

And so, you know, before I jump too far, I just stop and say, think about it. You know, I’m a peon, you know, I’m a small town country sheriff. Nothing. I don’t put myself on any kind of level with other leaders in the country, such as whether it be President Trump or General Flynn and others who have faced the full wrath of the federal government. There’s, you know, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Navarro, all these people. I mean, some of them have already spent time in prison because of the government coming after them. So I would just say stop and pull back from.

And who I’m speaking to right now is not just the people of cspoa, but. And yeah, the haters. You know, guys, if you’re a hater, just go live your life. I can’t change your mind. But if you’re someone who’s middle of the road, open minded, wondering what is the situation with me, or maybe your people who were once supporters of me and have changed because of the news and what’s been portrayed, if you have an open mind for a moment. I’m just asking you because I don’t have the time now or in a short period of time to lay out everything, but just take an open mind for a moment and stop and think about what I’ve already said in the last few minutes.

Does that make you pause and go, well, that’s odd, that doesn’t sound right. And then stop and think for a moment. I’m just small town sheriff. I am no one in the grand scheme of things. But when, when an administration feels threatened by someone, I’ll use General Flynn as example. Obama and you know, of course Biden was in his administration. But when those people felt threatened by someone that knew too much and could be a threat to them, like General Flynn, what did they do? They went after him with everything. Went after him for his life, they went after his family, they went after him.

I mean, look what they did to that man. And that is a good, honorable man that served our nation for, you know, so many years. And thank God it worked out though, you know, okay for him. But I just use that as one example because that’s someone I’ve met and gotten to know now, and I look at his story as just a. I’m a small comparison to that. Well, certainly they can come after me with the full weight of the government’s strength and authority. And what are they willing to put into this? Well, it probably depends on how much in danger or risk they are.

Who’s coming after me and why would be the question. Because why would they go to the time and trouble of doing anything to really bring a hammer down on things that are really not on the up and up, stretch things, whitewash things, or just outright lie and falsify things, or, I mean, let’s face it, even these tapes and videos that were just. That’s a whole long story. But I’ll just say we’re living in 2025 and I don’t know how long ago AI and other things came on board, but I mean, God knows how many years in that triple now we’ve been able to.

Even at our home computer, a high school kid can sit and Photoshop photos and things and make them look differently. Well, we’re living in an age when you can certainly tweak a word or two or a voice over and so forth. And I’ll just leave that alone for another day because there will be more on that, but I’ll just leave that alone. Understand that first, first those of you who are doubters or people who Turned and thought, oh, well, Scott’s just not who I thought he was. Let’s stop and think for a moment. To those of you that, yes, I’ve been through a lot.

It’s been a couple years I haven’t been able to speak. I had to stay silent, let it go through the courts and then start an appeal. But the story will get to be told in its entirety in due time. And right now, for the moment, stop and think to yourself. Okay, and we get to that in just a moment about what was really at stake for the government and how, how strongly were they willing to come after a small town sheriff and why that’s important. That’s the key piece to this. But as far as what they’re able to do, capable of doing, I think there’s enough examples now that we’ve seen.

I mean, look at the Trump Russia, Russia collusion and all the crap that they tried on that man. And I mean, you know, he’s got a gazillion dollars to fight it at least, thank God. And thank God he’s back in office and our president again, I’m grateful for that, Lord knows. But that is an example of what these dirty, corrupt people at the highest levels are willing and able to do to anyone, even a former president. So put yourself in my shoes when they come after you and they’ve had time to sit and plot and scheme and they’ve had the fire lit where they have real good reason to do things that aren’t proper.

And so speaking on that, moving forward. So from the start, I mentioned that because I think that’s a key from the very beginning when I was approached, that that doesn’t smell right. I mean, if a man’s sitting there and you have a Circle warrant, you don’t need his permission. But I’m telling them, you know, you can go, you don’t need a search warrant. But. But they never even execute it. Well, that to you people out there listening, who are the haters or people who’ve changed your mind of whether, you know, I’m, you know, who I once appeared to be and how somehow you think I’ve changed and I’m not that person.

Well, just ask yourself why make some phone calls or go, you know, drive up to the point, you know, ask these people, say, you know, give me an answer. You know, I want to know why. Why wasn’t that okay. And then fast forward to the end, which I talked about on another interview as well, when it comes to these things about what are the requirements of A deputy and auxiliary deputy and so on. And those are things too, which. That’s just the beginning and the end of this whole thing. That’s sentencing. Those things that we talked about before.

If you did nothing with all the stuff in the middle of my story of that two year ordeal, if you just took those couple things, if you truly want to give me the benefit doubt and ask questions and find out the truth, those are glaring, glaring facts that you have to stop and say, yeah, I mean, this guy was railroaded. If, if these things happen, then God knows what else took place to get him convicted and get him out of the picture of where he could be a threat. So how was I a threat? Well, I’ll leave a lot of the other baggage and things behind for today’s sake of brevity, but let’s just fast forward to.

Yeah, everyone can look and Google and understand that, yes, I have the Second Amendment issue with Governor Northam. We had that battle. We’re able to stop that stupid gun ban bill. That alone caused Northam at the end of it to publicly say more than once there on camera in Richmond that he would deal with me at another time. Okay, he made public threats against me that, I mean, Lord knows he was furious. I mean, if you could have heard the shouting, the cursing and things was going on after those committee meetings, when they left the committee room and stuff, you should have heard some of it.

And I don’t mean him, but the, the aides and others and the people working on the committees, the Democrats pushing the bill and so on. It was ugly, but we fought hard and defeated it. But I say that because that day that stood there and said, look, you people are not listening and you don’t get it. I’m not talking about Culpepper citizens. I’m not bound by county lines. I can swear in tens of thousands from all over the commonwealth. You need to wake up and realize we will nullify this bill if you continue and so on.

So he was furious. He made his little threats a couple of times that, you know, he would deal with me in time. He was livid over their bill being defeated. Well, you know, small town sheriff not seeing the huge picture at the time of other connections stopping, you know, anyone who wants to do their own research. You know, a guy that headed the FBI by the name of Comey once upon a time. Okay, do a little search online and see what law firm that he worked at. Where was that located? Richmond, Virginia. Do you think Governor Northam happens to know.

No, I’m sure, they don’t know each other, and I’m sure there’s no connection anywhere in the Democrat world of, you know, James Comey, certainly. I mean, God knows His 86, 47 and everything. Everything that Comey does is righteous and good. And he has no grudge against President Trump or Scott Jenkins or anyone that’s on the right side thinking of the thinking, you know, conservative and so on. So he would have no, no bearing in this. But let’s just leave that alone. The two, a battle back then that I went through and I created a lot of enemies.

Let’s fast forward to a time just before the FBI knocked on my door and there’s a phone call between me, Sheriff Wayne Ivey. I didn’t say it before, but I’ll say it now. Wayne’s great man. He’s a sheriff in Brevard, Florida. Good man, strong, conservative, does not hide his opinion or feelings any more than I do. And I think that’s why Wayne and I hit it off so well early on, meeting in D.C. some of the board of Sheriff work. Wayne and I have a lot of thinking, a lot of likenesses that we have in common.

And I consider it an honor knowing Wayne. Wayne got to know me through that, that process, working with the Trump administration a few years on border security issues, along with several other sheriffs in Maryland, Arizona and other states. We all seven of us actually, Mark Lamb, Wayne and I, Mike Lewis and several others from around the country, formed Protect America Now, a pact as Trump left office to continue working, fighting the fight. We were on those issues. So I understand people still, you know, like, in my community, thinking, well, because I never promoted that locally. People in my community really never knew what I was doing as I traveled the country and worked on issues with the Republican Party and the Trump administration, because I didn’t use that as a.

I didn’t wave that as a banner for politics or votes or anything. It was just, I felt, was what I needed to do. And I’ve been working on it quietly somewhat, you know, on my own through that time period. But anyway, we. There comes a time when getting to know each other more and more. The person who had the Hunter Biden laptop hard drive contacted some others who then contacted Wayne Ivey and some others who said. Who was basically saying, you know, look, no one in federal law enforcement, no one in state or otherwise touch this.

Aren’t there some sheriffs in the country that have backbone that will stand up and do something with this, this criminal, Hunter Biden in his laptop? So Wayne calls and we’re on an unencrypted line, just a regular cell line. And I am on my phone that I find out later, after the FBI’s gotten their, their ball rolling with me. I found out later on that my phone was tapped, so they were listening. And during that phone call, Wayne proposes, there were some contacts with some other former US Attorneys, state AGs, and others. I won’t name them, but anyway, there was a group of people willing to work together and Wayne was proposing to myself, another sheriff in Maryland and some others in our group that we would fly to a secret location, view the laptop crimes that are on it, return back into, swear out charges for Hunter.

And from there there was a couple other people from the USA to others, state Attorney General, others who were going to work together to then go after Biden himself for other crimes as the families committed that were on the hard drive. So that was the, that was a proposal. And I, along with another sheriff from Maryland agreed with Wayne that day on that call and openly said yes, because Wayne’s, you know, Wayne said, look, if I do this myself, I’m going to die a mysterious death. But if a group of us do this together, we have a chance because it looks like no one is going to do anything and our country’s at stake.

Now, I don’t put myself out there to be anything more than, again, like I said, I’m a peonic small town sheriff. But this phone call, it was a very serious thing to consider. It took a few minutes to ponder and think of, of what was being asked. But I said in that call, yes, I’m in. And so did, so did the other sheriff from Maryland agree to. My world changed a period of weeks later after that, in the next few months, the world changed a great deal. As so I would say, you know, there’s that call.

Do you think if you have a small, if you’re an FBI agent at the lowest level or the highest level, wherever you are in the chain, if you have a tap on a small town sheriff or whoever, this large, very large, large county sheriff in Florida, if you hear this recording, where you’ve got these men, you’ve got three or more sheriffs all plotting together on a recorded line that you’re listening to that says you’re going after the son of the most powerful man in the world and you answer to the head of the FBI, who answers to the ag, who answers to the President, do you think that that information did not make its way up the chain? It stayed at the Level of that agent listening to that call.

Well, you’d be fired if you did. That’s just a fact. You have to send that up the chain. So let’s think about that for a minute. You cannot argue the fact. It is an absolute, God’s honest fact. Every anyone can look up that’s looking at this, that doubts me and thinks badly of me. Just go do your homework. You can do it on the computer or on your phone. Right now. Look at the fact. It’s in the case file, it’s in the court documents. They had a tap on my phone during that time this call occurred.

This was known and this went up the ladder. So what on earth do you think was said at the Garland level or whoever, whether it’s FBI, DOJ as it got up, and to think it didn’t get to the main, you know, if I’m the president, I mean I was just a small town sheriff, if things of importance didn’t make it up the chain to me in a timely manner or get to my knowledge at all, that impacted me in the office. I mean, wouldn’t you get rid of those people they serve at your discretion? So do you honestly think that President Biden, others right near him, did not pass this on to him? But hey, we’ve got loose cannons out here.

This is a guy that stood and confronted the governor in Virginia and said, I will swear in tens of thousands. No one’s ever thought of this in history. This is the guy who sat and figured out a way in his little brain to nullify a gun ban in Virginia. And he did it. You know, he, that threat, shut it down because they realized and he just stood. Oh, that’s the other thing. Just prior to this phone call, within the weeks prior, I went to a press conference in D.C. with Chip Roy and a bunch of border sheriffs.

And as an aside, after talking about border sheriff issues, I had Breitbart, I don’t know, several other large news agencies do quick interviews with me afterwards. And one of those, you can pull it up online, search Breitbart and me and my five minute interview with them where I’m doubling down. And I say in that interview, and I know for a fact this went to the AG’s office as well, in that interview, I said that, yes, if Congress created a gun ban bill like Richmond proposed a year or two before that, absolutely, I would look for a sheriff in every state to work with me to nullify Congress’s gun ban of ars or high cap magazines and so forth.

And do the same thing. And I, I suggest people look at that. And so if you’re this guy, whether you’re the ag head of the FBI or even the president looking at this, going, okay, here’s this troublemaker, this guy who’s been completely against our agenda in the Democrat party. And he is, he is, you know, he might not be the sharpest guy in the room, but he had this idea popping his head enough that it shut down a gun ban in Richmond. And now he’s talking about doing the same and getting up, encouraging other sheriffs across the nation to do that.

If we try to do this at the congressional level. And now the gall to think he can come after the son. I mean, that’s the job of the FBI. I control the FBI. I control doj. No one can touch my son unless I say they can. How dare the small town. Well, wait a minute, we can’t have, I mean, I compare it to Sheriff Mack. We can’t have guys, you know, small town sheriffs across the country waking up our citizenry and realizing, wait a minute, we have a constitution and we have certain protections and we have ways to fight back.

They’re a little unorthodox or outside the box. But hey, that’s, that is the brilliance of those documents that were written for us by the state level and federal, you know, long ago. And those of us who hold office and take it seriously and took the time to research our authority have done the things like what I’ve done or talked about doing with auxiliaries and others through the years because they understand the strength of that office. So anyway, saying all that, I jumped from the beginning of them approaching me and fast forward to why are they coming after me and is it, you know, it sounds like BS initially to say that the federal government or the president or whoever would be going after some small pound sheriff.

Well, you know, I think we have a great example with Sheriff Mack’s case going all the way to the Supreme Court. And I guarantee the Clinton administration back then was thinking, you know, they’re going to have their way. And they’re so used to steamrolling over, you know, and it, you know, it goes right down to even TV and movies. You know, the average American believes what they see in these, these, this crap that’s been fed to them for decades and decades in the media and otherwise that they seem to think there’s this hierarchy where the federal agents of whatever agency in law enforcement somehow outrank or overshadow or control the state officers.

And then in Turn the state and, and that’s a sad reality. I mean any, any guy that’s ever run for sheriff anywhere in the country is, I’m sure seen it where, you know, half your population that’s voting for you don’t even understand the difference in your job as a sheriff versus a chief of police at the, in the same town or county that you’re, you’re running for office in. And it’s a sad reality, but that’s how uneducated our electorate is. And that, that causes further problem when now you have someone like me go through this ordeal the last two years and I can’t speak.

So since I can’t speak and again I go back and say a thousand times, thank God, you know, Sheriff Mack and others did jump in and help as they did because that did in many ways help, you know, explain and fight that battle for me when I couldn’t call even to the President of the United States ultimately. But so forth. Back to what I was trying to get at though. The point being that, you know, we have not just the jury that sat in judgment of me that’s being misled and given false information and, and, and painted this picture that is misleading enough that causes them to convict me.

That’s happening every day in every state in our country as far as false impressions and information being given about the powers and the office of sheriff and what it really means and we have to, to do something. And I say that the members of CSBOA and just everyday Americans everywhere wake up and realize how urgent this message is. Because when you talk about that last line of defense, I mean you can point and say there’s a hundred different things you can point to and say that person or that office or this or that document is the last line of defense.

I’m just using what is easy to point to today in this story is that yes, a sheriff who understands his authority, knows his ability of what he can and can’t do and uses it to its full strength, can greatly change the course of events in their locality. But especially at their state level, I mean, my gosh, you know, at the state level, that’s where stuff impacts you. Those laws that they’re enacting every year at that legislature come down to those localities and I mean they really hit you where it hurts. Yes, Congress does. But you know, let’s face it, you know, Congress moves so slow and they’re so broad and the things are impacting not felt the way state laws are.

And that is what I’m saying. That sheriffs. Look, in any state in the country that has sheriffs, not every state does, but those who do, look at the authority of sheriff, how it’s been whittled away for decades, look, in the northeast of our country alone, I mean, those sheriff’s authority have been relegated down to just, you know, process servers and running jails or courts and things. And they don’t have that, that law enforcement authority and full powers that they once had when they were originally, really originally institute. But I say that because, you know, when it comes to guys like me who simply, you know, I, I became a deputy sheriff at 18.

It’s all I ever did, you know, 34 years, that’s all I knew. So, yes, when I became a sheriff a dozen years prior to that, sheriff for 12 years, three terms, and yes, I had spent a lifetime, my entire adult life learning from other sheriffs and research and reading and training and so forth to know all the authority that a Virginia sheriff had. And that’s the next tidbit I want to get into because I know we don’t have forever. But again, I’m talking to these people, whether it’s your members or people in my community that don’t know the full story to give you enough that if you are honestly, honestly giving me the benefit of doubt or actually concerned to know what the real truth is, not just some verdict from a jury, then you will take the time to listen to this and go apply, go act on it and check into it, because you’ll find that everything I’m saying is 100 true and, and I won’t say speak it unless it’s verifiable.

So that point I’m getting to now is simple. That, okay, what is the authority of a sheriff in Virginia to hire, to swear in deputies and auxiliary deputies. So show me anywhere in my court case that the government put on a single expert or put on laws and code sections into the record, clearly identifying what the requirements are for an auxiliary deputy sheriff in Virginia. What are the training standards? What is required to be sworn? Well, I mean, I can tell you I didn’t fall asleep during my trial. It went on for days. And I can guarantee I was all ears every minute of it.

And they’re lying. You got to show me, show me anywhere in my trial of those days that they put on evidence that that jury who was going to convict me and put me in prison were told what the actual authority of a sheriff is to swear in people he chooses, and they didn’t. They made them believe they Talked about. They had agents on the stand. They talked about, you know, well, you know, was there, was there a background check perform. Okay. They didn’t ask what does that entail? Criminal history, Is there more? What’s required of an FBI agent versus a deputy sheriff is way different.

But they didn’t speak about that. It’s, it’s asking these people and they, they parsed everything. They, they did every little thing they could to, to touch an issue and then pull away from it. And the cruddy part of it is everything that my defense that we would try to then counter and go after or put on other information we got shut down every step of the way. I mean we couldn’t even put on other auxiliary deputies that, I mean that I had, you know, hundreds and hundreds of people I’ve sworn as deputies over that 12 year period.

We couldn’t call any of them to talk, to testify about that. Even like training officers or someone from the Department of Criminal Justice Services. Did they put anyone on from there to say that? No, Virginia sheriff’s not, not held to the same laws and rules of training standards as a chief of police, state police or any others. They didn’t touch that. Never did. Would they let us get into it? No, they shut us down. So they, they did everything with the judges seeing every bit of it. He shut us down constantly. I couldn’t even, I couldn’t even name other auxiliary deputies as examples of how when they, they talked about, oh well, you, you swore in a person who had a felony for conviction once upon a time.

Well, yeah, he did. He had gotten his rights restored many years before. All but his gun rights lastly. And he had those restored. Long story short. Yeah, and it was nothing illegal about it. It was a decision I made after many years in office. You know, a person who, I won’t go into that anymore, but I had the right to do it and I did it. If you don’t like it, tough. If you don’t like it, vote me out or change the law. But I didn’t do anything wrong. Just like a sheriff up in Michigan. And I blurted this out in court and got caught, got threatened by the judge for that because I said, well wait a minute, you know, jelly roll, I think it’s clear he’s been in prison.

He’s now deputy sheriff an on Hillary up in somewhere in the north of Michigan or somewhere. And I started to name others and I’m, you know, I’m chastised for it because we couldn’t dare do anything to let My jury hear that? Well, wait a minute. This agent and others and the government prosecutor just made it sound like you did something illegal. So where, where is it fairness when you’re allowed to talk about things? They’re bringing. The prosecutor is putting forth information, making the jury believe that I’ve done something wrong. And it’s not a crime. It’s nothing wrong with it.

They’re trying to use all of this fluff and this filler and these shaded areas to make it look like I did something that was nothing wrong with it. They, they had to do that in order to reach the conviction. They had to leave out the part where they should, should have said, well, okay, so what the hell does it have to do with what is required to become an FBI agent or state trooper? That has nothing to do with becoming a deputy sheriff in Virginia? Did they ever say that? No. Could we say it? No. And, and that’s the cruddy part of, you know, that’s the battle I was up against.

How can you win in a situation where, where a jury is sitting, being, being fed this stuff constantly for days, where they’re being misled? And then I fast forward to the end. I’m sorry, I’m just trying to get in as much as I can at the end. This judge, and I don’t, I’m not angry at the judge. I just, I feel sad. I feel sad for him. This is angry at the judge. I sure am. This is a man, you should have pity on him. Because I, I, I’m, I know God got me through this. I know God protected Trump and put him in office again.

And I, I firmly believe that, you know, God has a hand in things. And, and I believe that, you know, we will all face our maker at some point. And my point being that judge, I don’t hate him. I don’t want revenge on anyone from FBI, the prosecutors or others. I, I want them to live their life and leave me alone and let me live mine. But I do feel that judge, whether he was hoodwinked or it was intentional, I don’t know. I’ll never know. I can’t read his mind, God knows. But he sat there on that stand putting me in prison for 10 years on the day of my sentencing, and he, and, and I’ll just name three demonstrably false things that he said.

And if a judge is sentencing you, this is a federal judge sitting on the bench. If he makes false statements, things that are absolutely false in what he’s saying at sentencing, well, God knows what he allowed to happen in his court during a three, four or five day trial. He said when he sentenced me that I hired unqualified, unvetted and improper people to be auxiliary deputy sheriffs and they were not trained to stand up. That’s against the law. None of that against the law. All three of those are false to the judge. I hope you see this at some point.

And judge, again, I’m not angry at you. I feel pity on you because you’re going to have to answer for it. Because if you put me in prison for 10 years for something false, that you sit on the bench just then that just one example of mine. God knows how many other people have you possibly put in prison that you’ve been allowing yourself to be hoodwinked by a federal prosecutor through a trial, a bunch of BS laid to a jury and then these people are locked away. It happened to make. I would be sitting in a prison right now if it were not for President Trump.

Well, people like Sheriff Mack, General Flynn Leathers have helped me. But I’m saying, God knows, I don’t. But whatever was in that judge’s mind, I don’t know. But I know that those things are false. And real quick, I’ll say this to those people in my community who are haters and don’t believe me, here’s something you can go to that. Go, go. Research was in. It’s in the transcript. The judge said those things and here’s how they’re false. Was there an expert anyone put on? Was there any documents or laws or code sections or DCGS documents put in the trial to explain? Okay, this is what’s required of an auxiliary and this is what Scott did.

That was different. They don’t jive. No, they didn’t. They didn’t even touch on those things and get them close to each other. They went the opposite direction. They just wanted to hoodwink the jury and apparently the judge too. And they made them believe that I had done something wrong. When in fact, again, I go back to. I became a deputy at 18. Okay, that. Yeah, that was 1990. But fast forward to today. Can a person become deputy in Virginia at 18? Yes, they can. Now can you become a police officer, trooper? No, those people in These other agencies, FBI Age W21 and a lot of other things.

Okay, it goes back to simply as simple as I can make it. Has anyone not watched Western in America at some point as a kid? Have you not seen the old Western sheriff who says I’m swearing in a posse or we’re Going to go after the, you know, whoever, the fugitive. Raise your hand. I’m swearing. Okay. It dates back to that. Let’s stop for a moment. Those of you who don’t know. Again, my citizens in the community think I’m a bad guy and are not, not believing anything because it’s the government said. So here’s your. Your former sheriff is telling you.

Okay. Where was the first sheriff in America? Virginia. Do you think Virginia fought hard keep the authority of the sheriff the same and strong through the years as much as any state in the Union? Yeah, we did. And do you think we kept those rights pretty, pretty solid on a sheriff’s authority to have control of his office and hire almost anyone he wants? Yeah, we. When I was hired and it hadn’t changed a lot, you know, you got to be a US citizen. You need a high school diploma or ged, an equivalent beyond that though, with age limits and things that apply to troopers, federal agents and others, lots of things.

Physical standards, maybe written and tests, psych tests, you name it. Polygraph exam. There’s a thousand things you may have to do to become an FBI agent, a trooper in a given state or a city police officer. But a Virginia sheriff, and I’m not speaking for other states, I don’t know all the details of minutia and other states, but sheriffs in Virginia, I understood what my authority was and I didn’t violate it. Yes, they were qualified by the Virginia standards, as few as they are for me to swear them in as auxiliaries. Yes, they were background checked.

Now what’s required? No, it’s not required to the level that a trooper FBI, no, but were they’re driving records checked, where the criminal histories run and so on. Yes, the minimum standards were met, but there’s not a whole litany of things that a sheriff has wide authority, wide discretion to swear in who he chooses, whether it’s auxiliary or even a paid deputy, but especially an auxiliary. An auxiliary is much like that posse that’s gotten together quickly and swore in by sheriff to go after a wanted subject or any number of other things. It could be a natural disaster.

It could be who knows what. Sheriffs have had that authority for centuries and I know what that authority was and is and I exercised it. And they didn’t like it. They can’t stand it because you know, the head of the FBI, he doesn’t have the freedom that sheriff does. Sheriff, let me jump in there. Let me jump in there. Yes. Now, you know as well as I do that just about every Sheriff in this country has a volunteer search and rescue squad. Yes. And, and that’s exactly what we performed with these people. We were creating a new search and rescue party.

Yes. That year one of the people. Well, I won’t, I don’t have time to go down into the weeds of that. We will at some point. And I should have been called, I should have been called as an expert witness. Absolutely. Well, we, we had so many people that we wanted to use and, and we were stuck. I mean the judge were. I mean people. I’m sorry, that’s called railroading. Railroading. Sheriff, but you made another really good point that I wanted to touch on. These judges are going to do this to other people. And this has been happening around the country.

And recently I got called back to Provo, Utah where I started my police career on a murder case that happened 36 years ago that I was a detective and I was part of it, the investigation. And now this suspect and inmate, he got life in prison, but actually he got the death penalty but they never executed him. And then he was so sick and tired of being in prison he decided to file something with his attorney or some do good attorney and said hey, they bribed the witnesses and, and I want these people. You know what one of the bribes was is that after the trial I took Christmas presents to the people I was in charge of to make sure that they were protected and they were in witness protection.

I took them Christmas because they had nothing. So my wife and I put together a little Christmas tree and some presents for their one year old baby and they tried to turn that around that I bribed them with that. And the trial was already over and this judge was, I mean he’s such a liar. And yours is a federal judge. This was a federal judge. And they’re such liars and they’re so arrogant that they can just throw everything around and throw our lives in to a quandary and a huge mess and they never have any repercussions.

And your judges is, yeah, you talk about God judging him, but I don’t want this to happen anymore. And we’ve got to fix this system and we’ve got to fix these judges. We. Because they’re the ones that keep putting innocent people in prison. And they also let guilty people go way before they’re supposed to. Like Judge Hannah now being charged criminally. I think that we need a lot more arrests on judges and oversight and that they should not have immunity and I should be able to sue a judge that does that to Me and you can’t even sue a judge.

There’s no repercussions on these damn judges everywhere then. I appreciate your Christian attitude towards the judge, but I don’t appreciate that he’s still there and able to do this to somebody else. He did not allow you an adequate defense. And we were all sweating bullets and especially you and your family on the last day, on that Sunday day where you and I were in constant contact. We’re just praying and praying and praying for you. And I thought you were going. I mean, it was just too late in the day. You thought you were going, your family thought you were going to.

And thank God that Trump stepped up and called you and gave, gave you this unconditional pardon. But that’s not happening to a lot of other people. Well, you know, that’s a good example mentioned. Let’s go back to that day. May just we’re talking seven weeks ago Sunday afternoon when I got that call from President Trump telling me he was going to give me a pardon and I was going to be leaving Monday to drive that 12 hours out to Indiana to report you were leaving the next day. Exactly. So let’s think about that. The president gave me a part and I’m not again trying to, I’m not disparaging the judge.

I’m just saying this is a fact, Okay? A judge, I mean, these judges, they don’t mind in a stroke of a pen trying to rein in a sitting president, sticking their nose in California, wherever. They don’t mind doing that. But listen to what this judge has done. This, it’s seven weeks this week, yesterday, seven weeks since I got the pardon signed by the president on that Tuesday after, after Memorial Day. So he called me on Sunday and he actually signed the document on Tuesday, the day after Memorial Day for my part. So Sunday I got word and it was a holiday.

So I obviously, I didn’t didn’t want to disturb my, I, for those of you who don’t know when you have been charged or even especially after convicted, there’s a pretrial officer and a parole officer as well with the same, same hat where, you know, when you’re on bond, you still have to, they have to know your whereabouts and you have to check in regular and they have to know what you’re doing and so forth. So I had that, well, the, the word from my P.O. to me was, and I’m paraphrasing, but basically, okay, well, you know, there’s a process for everything and basically, sorry to hear about your bad luck I’m not.

I’m not being mean about. I think. And I will say this. I won’t say a name, but the person I had as my parole officer, pretrial officer, what have you, she. I could never have gotten a more kind, professional person to be my. My officer person handling my case. And I’m grateful, but they. They follow orders. So the judge is in charge, and he oversees my probation, my. My bond and so forth. And I get a pardon from the President of the United States. And I am told, well, report to prison anyway and we’ll let you know when we’re letting you out.

And I go, so, so thankful to a couple people in the administration where I, you know, I make. And I give the President credit to. I mean, you know, he said, keep this number. Don’t share it with anybody, but you call me back if you need to, or call my assistant here. And, you know, so when I call back and I’m like, look, they’re telling me, go to prison tomorrow, you know, and report in. And of course, I get this chuckle like, you. You just. You go on living life and doing what you’re doing and don’t worry about that.

So I have this series of texts and phone calls and things where I am being told, no, you need to be in Indiana. You need to go lock your. Get yourself locked up. And I just say this. Had I done that, for those of you think, oh, well, they would have. They wouldn’t even have booked you in. They’d have let you right out there. They’re all ethical, decent people who never would want to do anything improper. It took six weeks for me to be released. Finally, six weeks before they would release me. I had to. I had to report in, and they had to know my whereabouts.

I couldn’t possess a gun. All my rights that were restricted, continued that way by this judge who could have, at the stroke of the pen, the day after Memorial Day. No, it was public knowledge. It was in the news everywhere. There were emails from the DOJ to them. I had a copy of it. I had a copy. The President sent me a. You know, emailed me that night, a picture of him signing it so I could have it autographed. Well, I’m just saying that because it was widely known I got this pardon. But somehow a Charlottesville office where this judge sits, he can’t rely on that fact enough that he could sign me off of the bond restrictions and allow me to go on with my life and not have to say, well, I like to leave the county and go here.

I’d like to be here. I didn’t even know that I’ve had to do that crap for six weeks until last week, they finally released me and I could go actually possess a firearm to defend myself. Heaven’s sakes. Now, now, do you not think maybe they don’t. Maybe they don’t know what an unconditional pardon is? Well, I say that because that’s the level of BS that the. I mean, and. And these are the people who expect you, just like they say, oh, no, these FBI agents are so ethical and professional. They would have never sat there and not executed the search warrant if you had evidence to prove your innocence.

Well, okay, would the same ethical standards me be followed by this judge who’s sitting there knowing damn well I got a part? Everyone in the country knows from media and otherwise. And. And you’re telling me an email from D.C. to Charlotte, you could drive the damn thing down. You could walk it from D.C. to Charlottesville in those six weeks to hand deliver it to the judge and say, here’s your copy of the pardon, since you don’t believe it’s real now, let the man off of his bond restrictions and let him have a right to a gun.

And then all the other things that go with his rights of freedom. No, they didn’t do that. They purposely waited week after week after week. And I was patient. I didn’t even ask for the first couple weeks. And finally I’m like, you got to be kidding. I still can’t. I don’t have freedom of movement. I can’t go to the beach. I can’t go here or there without. I can’t move without telling someone where I’m at. I can’t. Again, again, I mean, those of you don’t know. I mean, being a sheriff is not the safest job in the world.

And I’ve certainly had some close calls. But, you know, you do get death threats. You do get things. You get your family members and others threatened. And I won’t speak now about things that happened in the weeks and months prior. But I can tell you, you know, it’s bad when you don’t have a way to protect yourself anymore because that’s been taken away when you were convicted. Let me. Let me interrupt you. We got. We got very little time left, and there’s a couple of subjects, and I know how you feel about this one. This should be easy.

Have you heard, of course, Washington State and some other places are actually now moving to not elect sheriffs and just have Them appointed by state or county personnel. Why don’t you tell people real quickly, because I still have a follow up question. Why don’t you tell people what a mistake that is? Absolutely. And now Texas Governor Abbott is actually talking about this. I just got a call from a Texan right before I got on with you on my way home from the airport and she’s quite the activist and she said that Abbott is talking about appointing sheriffs in Texas.

What do you say to that? Wow, I’m disappointed to hear that. In Texas. I, I know nothing negative about the governor, but I think maybe he needs to be educated. You, you need to be on a plane to see him. But I, in general, about Washington, my God and hell, I’ll go with you. I’m telling you this, this, there’s nothing that could be. I’m sorry, at the state level, that’s one of the most important topics. You could fight in your legislatures not to let that happen. A sheriff, to those of you listening, members, otherwise a sheriff is your only directly elected law enforcement executive in the country.

The head of the FBI, state police, city police, they’re all appointed by a president, a governor, a city council, a mayor. Others appoint these leaders and in turn they, because they answer to those people, they follow their marching orders. A sheriff is different. And I point to Richmond in Virginia during the 2020 riots as the best example to those of you listening in Washington, Please listen. Did, did you look, see anywhere in the country where sheriffs were handling cities or towns where these riots occurred? No. You didn’t. It was chiefs of police. Richmond, Virginia. They were literally burning dump trucks, cars, hurting people, looting, doing those things in Richmond.

And they fired the chief of police when he’d had enough and he said, go get them. Enforce the law and start making arrests. Well, they fired him and they appointed a replacement temporary acting Chief who lasted 11 days. And when they kept burning and assaulting and doing the things 11 days later, that acting chief said, enough’s enough. I can’t stomach this. Go start arresting him. And they fired that acting chief. So use Richmond as a bad example. Those of you in Washington state think you want to have appointed sheriffs and not elected. When you’re elected by the people for those four years you’re in office, you will have the spine that a chief of police and others can’t.

They can’t have it. I’m not disparaging chiefs of police and other leaders. I’m saying they can’t. They answer to. And I know you know Wayne Ivy really well and you. And I heard what he had to say a few weeks ago. But, yes, I might be taking you to Texas with me. Might be taking you to Washington State here pretty soon, too. But real quickly, Wayne and I, Wayne and I are cut from very similar cloth. Similar. I know. I, I heard what he said. And I said, I said, mike, Well, I tell you, my family even said, dad, my son, come here.

He said, this sheriff, I said, do you remember meeting Wayne? I said, that’s my friend. And he laughed. He said, he sounds just like you. Yeah, God bless him. Wayne said it perfect. There’s nothing wrong with that and people hate him for it, but it’s just a fact. No, I called him. I called him and we, we were putting him all over the place. But now, again, we don’t have very much time left. But I have to ask you this, and you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, because you might want to take some time because maybe you and I need to try to talk to Trump.

But what would you tell him about this Epstein fiasco? And the case was there, and look, it happened. It happened how many years ago? I mean, and a lot of this subterfuge behind all of it. What would you advise if you were his advisor, what would you advise him about that situation? I would love to advise him. I’ve said that before. But what would you tell President Trump regarding the Epstein case right now? That seems to be really causing him a lot of problems. Two things. The first caution I would say to everyone listening, thinking negatively about the President is, or Pam Bondi, for that matter.

We don’t know what we don’t know. We don’t know what the President knows or Pam Bondi or others. And I think I go back to being a sheriff for 12 years. There are decisions made every day by leaders because of what they know and can’t release or speak openly about everything. As to why, and we don’t know for our own good or for the good of our country and international relations or other things that are happening that we don’t even think about, I have no idea. No inside scoop. But first think of that, because we do not know what the President or Pam Bondi and I, I don’t know Pam personally, but, I mean, the team he put in place, I have respect for.

So I give them. They, to me, those, those people deserve the benefit of the doubt. We, you know, they’re just, you know, getting the ball rolling this year, and I want to give them that benefit of the Doubt. So that’s the first thing. Second thing, advice to him. I heard last night in the news where he made that quick statement of, you know, I suggest release whatever she feels is credible. I think that’s heading the right direction as far as, from him. But everyone still is going to look at it as a president. Well, President Trump, you control what Pam Bondi does, you appoint her.

So, you know, that’s just double talk or that’s, you know, avoiding the subject. And I hate for him to be looked at that way because, you know, I just, I know I see everything that man has done and is doing and I just know in, in my heart, I know that everything they said leading up to this point, I think they had every intent of letting the public let it be aired, let, let, you know, let sunlight in and, and whether it’s, you know, MLK and JFK and other stuff too, but I don’t know what we don’t know.

So to give him advice on it, it’s just that I would probably be a little more direct and blunt as to why come on out and say if that’s the case, if I were advising President Trump, I’d say, look the camera now and say, look, I can’t discuss why, but you have to trust me for the moment, we’re just not going to release this stuff because I, I have a lot of things that it could impact our country with. And, and we don’t know what that is. I mean, hell, I heard, I watched one thing online talking about how something connected with Israel and the war and Iran and all this other stuff, and it did a full, you know, flip backwards as to why the whole thing happened.

And when I looked at stuff like that, I’m thinking, my God, you know, I was in law enforcement for a full career and I can’t even understand how these things link together. Well, the average citizen out here certainly shouldn’t be sitting in judgment of a president and administration of professionals that, that know top secret information and things that link one another and why we’ve got to run. We’ve got to run. But Sheriff, thank you so much. I am going to be using you more. And we’ve got an event coming up in Washington state. But the, the thing of it is, I think both of your responses are, were very fair and, and I think we still do.

Oh, that fairness. Okay. I would like to help with it. And I, and I think you would. Maybe we’re too close to it, I don’t know. But I would like to help and I Appreciate you being on today. I know you’re kind of following, called in to do this really late, but I appreciate you filling in for me. And I think everybody’s very interested in your story. It’s an amazing, absolutely astonishing thing how you got saved at the last minute and that you never committed a crime anyway. And I wouldn’t have put my butt on the line for you for the last seven or eight months doing that because I knew you were innocent.

And I hate the fact that the system can be used to put people away who are innocent. And I knew you were all along, and I’m so grateful that you’re out. And anyway, we’re gonna. We’re gonna keep moving on in that direction, but thank you for being with us today. Jack, any closing comments real quick? Nope. I agree with you 100%, Sheriff Mack. And I think you know, Mr. Jenkins experienced something many, many people are experiencing right now. There’s. The court system at the federal level is totally out of control. It has no oversight of any kind and no way for retribution.

And that. That’s the word I want to use when people’s lives are destroyed. And that has to change. Sheriff Mack, you’re right. Thank you, Scott Jenkins, for coming today. Appreciate what you’ve done, what you’ve gone through. And to the members of cspoa, please hear this. I’ve not got to see you personally yet, Sheriff Mack, but thank you. I thank God every day, but I wanted to do it from bottom of my heart for my family and all of us. Thank you for what you did. You’re more than welcome. You’re more than welcome. And I still want to come out and bring my wife and go out with you and your wife and.

And just talk about it all and review it and see what we need to do. It helps change the system together. So thank you. Thank you, Scott. Thanks for being here. Jack. Thank you. And everybody, all the posse members, thank you so much for being here. Remember, go get all your family and friends to become members and. And God bless every one of you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Sheriff. Thank you, gentlemen. We’ll see you all next week, everyone. Thank you. And remember, cspoa.org donate if you just got a few extra donations dollars. Thank you.

Bye now. All right, see you soon.
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