Summary
âž¡ The article discusses concerns about the current economic climate, with high unemployment rates and uncertainty due to the upcoming election causing pessimism among investors. It suggests that if one political worldview, favoring government control over economic decisions, prevails, businesses may seek less punitive markets overseas. The article also warns of potential economic depression and suggests that if Trump wins the election, jobs may return to the U.S., causing a migration from coastal to central states. It ends by discussing trading strategies that can insulate from a market downturn.
âž¡ This text discusses a type of investment that can yield high dividends, similar to buying a rental property for cash flow. These investments, called ETFs, can increase in value by 30% or more, and even pay out over 100% in dividends. The text suggests that these investments are a safe bet, as they can offset each other if you buy both long and short side. The author also mentions that these investments have been a godsend for them, even during market downturns, and suggests that they could be a good option for others looking for high returns.
âž¡ The discussion revolves around the surprising support for Kamala Harris from certain individuals and companies, despite her policies potentially affecting their bottom line. It also highlights the success of Trade Genius, a platform that provides education and software for trading, which has been helping people make profitable trades. The platform’s tools and strategies can help users start making profits within a week or two, and potentially turn it into a full-time income over a few years. The conversation ends with an emphasis on the financial freedom that can be achieved through smart trading.
âž¡ The podcast discusses an investment algorithm that helps determine when to invest and when to withdraw. The algorithm has a 66.38% win rate and an annualized return of 55.88%. The service costs between $300 to $1000 per year, depending on the level of access you choose. The podcast host and guests believe in investing in gold, silver, platinum, and crypto, and they also discuss the potential risks in the banking system.
âž¡ The text discusses the potential impact of Kamala Harris winning the election on the stock market and the operations of Trade Genius, a company that uses algorithms for trading. The speaker believes that regardless of the election outcome, Trade Genius will continue to thrive as long as the stock market exists. The speaker also discusses the importance of understanding a candidate’s policies before voting and suggests that the economy’s state closer to the election could influence voting decisions.
âž¡ The speaker is thanking someone for helping others navigate through tough political times, as they often hear from people who are struggling. They express gratitude for the visit and look forward to seeing them again next month.
Transcript
We’re going to look at that. We’re going to look at the future, and we’re going to hopefully empower you to do something about your position, because if Kamala gets in, your host’s opinion is that our corporations, our major ones, are going to relocate like crazy, and I mean, out of the country. And there’s going to be opportunities, and Bob’s going to highlight a lot of those. So, Bob, I want to welcome you to the show. This, we have never had a time like this in America, but, you know, I don’t really want to go back into the debate.
I think my audience is debate weary for the most part. But I will say this. The feds are doing something right now, um, that can’t save Kamala’s economy going into the election. Do you agree with that? Yeah. I mean, you know, if you took a step back, they, it’s actually the Biden administration’s fault because they tried to falsify the level of employment in the country to be able to paint a picture of a better economic backdrop than there actually was. And so with the employment looking strong, the Fed had no choice but to hold on interest rate cuts.
And so two things happened. One of them is not Biden’s fault. The other one is Biden’s fault. The one that was not his fault was because of all the PPP loans, a lot of people started corporations ostensibly to defraud the federal government. What are PBB loans for people who might not? Those were the COVID loans that people got for maintaining employment. And so the system notices that you have new corporations, so they assign a, basically a plug because they want to put the report out. But you don’t have the data in the, in the employment data from the tax returns you get from people doing their payroll.
And so basically, that’s probably another million dollars, a million employees that probably don’t exist that were factored into the employment report. And then we had the 800,000 revision on birth death. And then last, just last employment report. They revised down the prior two months again. So, you know, we’re really at recessionary levels of employment. But that kept the Fed’s hands high. The Fed actually should have been lowering interest rates probably in May, and they held off here until next week. Okay, I just got to go back and clarify something because I’m pretty sure I heard you, but I’m pretty shocked by this.
Bob. You’re saying that the way things were manipulated, that there’s actually 1 million less jobs than is being reported. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they actually announced it. Over 800,000 jobs that weren’t reported because the birth death model was, was, was optimistic. Okay, so remember, the, the Biden administration, or any administration controlled what that number is. That comes out, the birth death model. So they’re just probably trying to eat this thing right along until they can get to, uh, you know, into early voting here. But it just got so bad that the revision came up in August and they just couldn’t avoid it.
And so even the Fed said something about it in July, saying that we think the numbers are, are inflated. So, you know, because they have their own models they work from, but they, yeah, and then the PPP thing is probably some more jobs that don’t exist that they have to play catch up on too. So the bottom line is the economy is weakening. Higher interest rates did its thing. Okay. And I think we’re past the point. We’re on the roller coaster now where you can’t unwind it fast enough to keep it from rolling over the top.
And so the fed, once again, is behind the curve on this. If they wanted a soft landing, they should have been aggressively cutting interest rates from, from, from May forward. You know, but one of the things that happened, I shared this with you on our pre call here, is that when you start lowering interest rates, the average reduction in the stock market is about 3% per rate cut. If it’s 25, basis point rate cut, is that per one point of rate cut? No, it’s 1.25.25. Okay. So, you know, if you lower interest rates by two and a half percent here over the next, you know, six to eight months, you know, you’re looking at a 30% reduction in the stock market.
This is just a known fact. This is just what happens. Correlations are super high. You know, no matter what anybody tells you on the outside, short of hyperinflation, which is a different problem in and of itself, you have to look for reduction in the stock market. Economic backdrop is already flagging, you know, and look, I have a lot of customers in a lot of different industries. The real estate industry is toast. Toast. Absolutely. Okay. The automotive industry is. Now they all are out there as reports are coming out yesterday. Before that, the level of profitability in the car market and related accessories is also rolling over.
Those two industries alone in the United States are probably almost 20% of employment. And then you got the finance area. So you have the good guy is that their cost of loans are going to fall and they can drive down the interest rates they pay. But at the same time as they all been sitting fat, dumb and happy with their money at the Fed, okay, 5%, that’s going to fall too. And the banking industry is in terminal decline. And Goldman Sachs late, I think, laying up 1800. I saw that. So, you know, and that’s a. Carrying a coal mine.
You know, Goldman Sachs can’t make money. Okay. Regardless of whether or not you think how they get make their money, if they think they’ve over hired, they’re, they’re hurting too. So New York’s going to hurt a, you know, so just across the board we’re just slowly sinking into a, into a, into a quagmire here that’s not going to easily come out because the issue here is that we have a secular trend. You know, it’s like, you know, if you heard of sailing before, when you’re sailing into the wind, you’re basically beating into the wind, right? So you have to constantly be tacking, you know, to get anywhere.
And so you have, you, you know, situation with, with this economy is that you have people retiring. Okay? You know, our workforce is going to drop to 60% or below. And it’s not because 40% of the people are unemployed. It’s just that a vast majority of these people are just leaving the workforce. They’re, they’re retiring. Do we have a proportionality on that, the unemployment rate versus the number of people doing willing retirement? I don’t, but I think, I think in this go around is probably at least six to 8% of the people that are probably retiring.
But you got to remember too, is that the way they count it? Because we’re probably at a ten or 11% unemployment rate, not a 4%. Just because they only count people looking for work. I know what they do after six months. They presume the person’s found a job. I know that. Yeah. So, so we’re probably at a higher rate than that. And uh, so, so that’s kind of the issue, you know, and then you have, um, uh, with inflation, you’re getting squeezed both ends. So it’s going to get nasty. You’re going to lose your job. And prices that, prices of anything that you need are not coming down.
Okay? And, um, only the things that you want are going to come down, but you won’t be able to afford it or you’d be too afraid to spend your money on it because how are you going to eat next month? How are you going to pay your rent next month? So we’re going to have a bifurcation in the economy. Look, if you’re highly skilled person and you’re upper middle class, you’re likely going to be okay. But if you’re anything else, you’re likely to be devastated by one of a number of different things. Inflation is going to get you.
Unemployment is going to get you where your pay is not going to keep pace. That’s kind of where things are right now. So, so we, we’re calling, you know, with this move here, we’re basically calling the word the bull top window. Okay? In fact, we couldn’t even make a new high yet. I think the high was in June or July and we haven’t even double topped yet. So it’s struggling that much to do this with the euphoria. Usually they front run these federal meetings. We should have been at all time highs now. But I think the unemployment rate and manufacturing surveys are freaking out investors and people are starting to get a little bit more pessimistic.
And there’s a lot of uncertainty with this election because you can have two totally worldviews being presented to us. And so the one worldview is basically full on Marxist Leninism. Well, they believe that only the government should be able to make investment decisions and economic decisions and that corporations are really there to serve as a public good. Well, in that environment, people just hunker down because they just don’t want to be a target. And I think that’s, or they’ll move for the path of least resistance and find overseas markets that won’t be as punitive. Yeah, but they are getting punitive, Dave.
That’s the problem. And see, Kamala Harris is going to, she’ll sign on to the worldwide minimum corporate tax. Well, she’s gone above it, Bob. It’s the worldwide minimum tax. The UN says 21%. She wants to do 28. That’s what I’m saying. So she. Yeah, but she’ll, everybody will happily join her. Okay. You know, people reason why they haven’t done anything now is because you know, companies around the world are afraid the jobs will come to the United States. Right? So she does it, too. There’s, there’s no safe haven left. So people aren’t going to stick their, their neck out to try to take money if the cost of making that money is very, very high.
So there’ll be no loans. So the housing market’s going to suffer. And we already know values are going to collapse. They already are with commercial real estate. Wow, this is, you’re giving me an image, and I’m going to let you correct my image here, but I haven’t sunk to this level what I’m going to say. But I think I may have to. These potential numbers, Bob, aren’t just recession. This could be the worst depression in american history. Well, I mean, look, I, I was always joking. I said I’m surprised that, well, maybe they’re putting common line here because they really don’t want to win.
Because I said this next president is going to be like Hoover, okay? It’s a no win situation. So, you know, that’s why I kind of joked, I said they should let Biden ride off into the sunset and then just get ready to pick up the pieces afterwards. But there’s just really no way out of this economic environment. So you and I and other people, we’ve been warning people for two years to basically get your house in order because this is coming now. Look, if Trump wins the election, it’s going to be a different problem. Okay? You know, he’s, he’s going to bring jobs back into the country on the back of some of our trading partners.
Right. Which, which will cause, you know, some inflation. And also, people are going to have to move because these jobs aren’t going to drop into any of the blue states. They’re going to go to red states where they’re going to be treated a little bit more of, you know, fairly or at least benignly. And so the guy that’s, you know, working downtown LA at a barista, if he wants a job that’s going to make money over time, he may have to move back into Iowa, okay, or Missouri, where the Dakotas people, you’re going to see a migration from the coast back into the middle of America because that’s really where the jobs only can go.
Can’t these blue state leaders see what’s coming then and change course? See, they don’t care. I think that’s what people don’t understand. Okay? If they think they’ve locked up the vote, okay, they get to control the population with very little effort. And so that’s what they do, you know, and so, yeah, so, no, they don’t care if it’s a purple state. Those people care. Okay? Red state people tend to care. So. But the blue state, why, why should Governor Newsom or the next person give 1oz of concern about the population of California if he thinks he’s just going to get the next vote? Okay, no, you’re, you’re right, Bob.
You’re. You just opened my mind on one side that I didn’t see this in Aurora, Colorado, where they’ve had the infamous TDA gang, by the way. They’re in 15 cities now, that I’ve learned. But they just arrested ten leaders in Aurora. And yet the leaders of that state, in that city, not the city council, but the mayor, the police chief and the governor, are all saying the same thing. They were all in denial that this was a problem now, that this broke yesterday. Now they’re saying it’s just an isolated incident. You’re right. They’re in total denial.
They don’t care what happens to their people in terms of safety, so why should they care economically? You’re right on the money. Yeah, and I don’t think they’re in denial. This is a strategy. Right? But, you know, the ironic thing about it is Rome employed the same strategy. And so mass migration, you know, for low skilled jobs to, to basically support the current regime. And, you know, it destroyed Rome after, you know, 150 years of it. So things are accelerated now here in this country because Rome was. There was no equal to Rome, okay? You know, basically the empire disintegrated and you had, you know, until 1500 rise of the european nation states.
You know, you just had a bunch of fragmentation around the world. But now everybody’s so integrated that, you know, America could fall in 20 years. So. And I’m not saying the rest of the world is in any better shape. I mean, China is absolutely losing it. I know. And Russia, what Russia has is Russia the mafioso. Right. And they’re trying to just be a bully. But, you know, I think the war in Ukraine with american weapons is showing the Russians that if you actually went up against America, unless you use nuclear weapons, you would lose the war in about a week.
You know, and so these things create volatile situations when. When people’s expectations don’t match reality. You know, Russia may try to do something non, you know, I forget the word they use when it’s not something you expect. So they’re gonna, they’re gonna. They’re not gonna go toe to toe, but they’ll do something nefarious. Iran knows they can’t go toe to toe with Israel, no less, the United States. And so they’re going to probably do something that’s, that’s a little bit, you know, out of, out of what normally would people think they would do. And that that could be potentially, you know, world changing event.
So how about killing Donald Trump? Because we already know that’s a plot. Yeah, but that’s, that’s more domestic than then I, then these geopolitical events. Right. So, you know, the thing about America is that, you know, you know, not killing Trump after he’s in office is different than before because there’s really nobody else really to step, who would step in his shoes. Right. They would have to do a comp, you know, to convention just like, just like what they did with Harrison Biden. Well, I can tell you what had happened. I’ve already asked this question. A couple insiders told me if something were to happen to Trump, it’d be JD Vance and there’d be strong sentiment for our RFK junior because how he could pull, how he could pull some Democrats in.
But, you know, I, the thing is, let me tell you, the world, Bob, I get this on my show because I go on shows in Australia, New Zealand, Canada. I have people from those regions I talk to. The world is rooting for Donald Trump, not the leadership. But the people want Donald Trump back in. Yeah. Yeah. He’s not afraid so. But, you know, instead of keeping this stuff down, this path here is that, you know, as you know, my philosophy is I don’t care. You know, from a trading standpoint, let’s go down that. Let’s go down that rabbit hole because you are immune to the bad things that happen in this country economically with regard to your business.
Is that a fair statement? Yeah, we’re vaccinated. You know, we may get a mild cold, you know, or the flu, but we’re not going to die. Okay. Yeah. So we, we, the stock market today is very sophisticated, and they have tools now for retail that they did not have in the past. And so we don’t fear the bear market anymore. There are trades in which you could put on that we’ve already put on that will relatively insulate you from a market downturn. And they pay extraordinarily high dividends because basically they’re leveraging the option markets. The reason why banks make so much money is that they don’t buy options, Dave.
They sell options. Okay. And they pocket the premium. So there’s now products out there that are, you know, a lot of people listening say, oh, those are called covered calls. Yeah, that’s part of it. But the other part is what, what they do is they, they actually create an environment where they create a synthetic long position so they can leverage movements in the price up and down. And these, these rates are like, you know, if your stock goes up 10%, these kinds goes up 30%, 30% kind of moves. And so they build in these environments inside of these products, whereas that, you know, every week or every month, depending which one you do, you get to bring down a dividend.
And, I mean, some of these yields are absolutely mind boggling. You know, you’re talking over 100%, they call distributions, because not all of it is taxable dividends, but some of these products that have been out have already paid off. Like, if you put $20,000 in on two of these that started just 14 months ago, you’ve already got out more than $20,000 in dividends. And these stocks, atFs, are still relatively close to the price in which you originally got into. So it’s free money. And what I tell people to do with these things is like buying a rental property for the cash flow.
And then, you know, basically, when you earn enough cash flow, you paid off the ETF. It’s all free money going forward. So, you know, I was telling you before the show is that, you know, I have these, they have them for long side and short side. You basically, you’re making a bet. So they have one for TEsla. If you believe Tesla is going to go up or down, you can make a bet with these. But in the meantime, you’re bringing down 40, 50, 60% annualized dividends, you know, four, five, 6% a month of your investment. You can’t make that anywhere else.
And they offset each other if you buy them both. And so that’s what we’ve done. And so part of our service with these pair trades is we kind of give people our thoughts on how they should be biased between the two. And you just sit back and your principles relatively protect it, and you’re bringing down these large distributions. And so it’s been, it’s been a godsend for us. You know, we had that 10% market dump in August, July, August. Our peer trades didn’t move from a principal standpoint, and yet we pocketed the dividends. And so we don’t, we can bias a little bit more bearish during the bearish time and buy more bullish during the bullish time.
And just bring some. If I told you, Dave, the rest of your Life, you can earn between 20 and 30% a year, and your principal will maybe just bounce around, you know, 10%, 15% down, 10%, 15% up over the course of that time, you would, you would sign up for that in a minute after. First of all, scratch your head and say, this can’t be possible. But it’s already showing that it is possible. And unless the option markets shut down, these are great trades, so I’m personally in them. You know, I have over two hundred k of these products in my various accounts, and we were just about $13,000 in dividends last month.
So not too shabby. No, no. Yeah. And not all of it’s going to be taxable at the dividend rate, too, because some of its return of capital, because of the way they structure things. But these are all designed for income, and they’ve structured it with these peer trades where you get what’s called low volatility of the principal. You know, the bond market, the reason why the stock market goes down when they cut rates, because the bond market gets more attractive. So you could be in TLT. Okay, we see between, at this point, between 30 and 100% upside on TLT.
You know what’s TLT? 20 year bond fund. So when yields fall, the price goes higher in bonds, and so. And that’s government bonds. So unless the whole world ends and the government defaults on their bonds, which they won’t, they’ll just use print cash to pay the bonds like they always do, is that you’re picking up a nice yield, and then you can pick up over the next two years between 30 and 100% upside. If you think we think bitcoin has one hurrah to go here, a good push. But after that’s over, if you’re worried about that, there’s some short side on these ETF’s I told you about that are great.
But there’s also, you can buy Sark S a R K, which is a leverage bet against Kathie woods because she’s heavy in tech. So there’s a lot of things that you can do without worrying too much. And the final thing I’ll say is that gold is on the move. So sometimes gold likes when the interest rates go down because they become more attractive assets. But gold is making new highs constantly. Now, gold, I’m talking gold, silver, platinum and palladium. I want to digress just for a minute, because the gold is the barometer for economic health. As the dollar dies, gold will rise, so to speak, as we move into the election.
And people are going to wonder this, Bob. So I got to ask the question. With these cut in interest rates now, I don’t see how the Biden Harris administration is going to be able to stop a pretty significant economic decline before the election, thus influencing voters. Am I on the right track? Yeah, it’s already too late. I mean, early voting starts next week, right? So I think the cake is baked with her. It’s really after the effect that’s going to happen. Look, in China, people can’t beat the chinese government, right? You end up getting killed. But, you know, the opposite of love isn’t hate.
The opposite of love is indifference. And that’s what’s going to happen here. You know, if you have a small business, you know, and then you’re, you’ve been beating your head over for 80 hours a week, and then the government comes in and said, we’re going to take 25% more or we’re going to put such onerous rules on you so that, you know, you actually pay for the economic policies I have, people are just going to just stop. Okay. And, and, you know, and so you. And when velocity stops, you can’t fix it with the tools that they have, you know, so.
Because velocity is what really drives everything. You know, when I bring velocity is how fast money moves from person to person to entity to entity. And when it starts, when people get scared, they literally shut down. So first of all, there’s going to be less money supply, which is recessionary or depressionary, and velocity falls, which would just exacerbates the situation. Yeah, exactly. That’s why, that’s why when Obama was in power, that’s why he did the Obamacare thing. He forced velocity in the healthcare market because young people just weren’t buying insurance. So that’s why he mandated it.
Okay. And so you’re forcing people to spend money. You know, they couldn’t do it for taxation, but they did this way. So I would look for more of those kind of schemes. Would they force you into buying something that you don’t want to buy? Medicare for all. How’s that? Medicare for all. Medicare, yeah, Medicare for all is what Kamala is saying. Yeah, well, right, right. But that’s single payer. But that’s essentially have that now anyway, with, with the Obamacare. I’m just talking about, you know, this is why they’re so hot and bothered about the CDBC. They just want to force change without having to do any legislative action.
I say that’s, that’s, that’s what happened when money’s locked up. That’s why she, that’s why she’s going after the millionaires and billionaires, because that’s where all the money is. Right. You know, look who owns the assets. I think if you make less than $100,000 a year, I think you’re 3% of the stock market. Okay. And so, you know, most of the money, and I think it’s, you know, you got to get up to like a half a million before you get to like 10% of the stock market. So, you know, you see that money’s all locked up and rich people don’t have velocity because, you know, if you and I are worth $10 million and we normally, if we were a normal person, normally would spend $100,000 to live, you may bump that up to 200,000.
Right. Because you may take a private plane somewhere. You might buy something a little bit here, a little bit there. Well, you know, but the rest of that money is just locked in, okay? It’s sitting in reits, it’s sitting in bond, it’s sitting in the stock market. Well, the government wants that money, okay, because they, that’s their vote buying machine, right? So that they’re going to try to force their way into, into that handout. And, you know, they’ve done polling data against millionaires, right? So they figured that’s an easy target for them. And what it’s going to do is going to force even more restructuring.
But look, the wealthy have really smart lawyers, so they’re going to be constantly playing a running game with these people. They won’t get the money they need, but it’ll get just increasingly, increasingly strident. And that’s just not an environment where people want to invest in. Yeah, I hear what you’re saying, and I wanted to ask you this question, and I want to bring it back to what you do at trade. Genius, 88 top CEO’s like PepsiCo, Starbucks and so forth. They came out and supported Kamala based on what you just said. And I agree with what you’re saying.
She’s declared war on these people. Why in the heck would anybody of any means and substance support Kamala Harris? Why did they do that, Bob? Well, I mean, it’s a, it’s a head scratcher for me, but, but they do. But if you noticed, you can do a lot of nonsense when things are going well. Right? And so these are probably go along, get along people. Right. And, you know, hey, if the government’s going to become increasingly involved in the economy, I want to be on the good side of the politicians. And, you know, it’s no skin off my back if I support this policy or that policy, right.
You know, I’ll still do my country club, get my 1012, 14 million, be happy, keep the politicians at bayong. But when things don’t go well, is that then they’re forced to confront reality. And I think that’s where we are. I mean, look, look how many companies now, especially if you have a strong, conservative customer base, they’re blowing up the whole, you know, the whole environment that they’ve structured, right? And I think that’s what happens when things start going bad. You know, the CEO, they’ll pivot, right. Because ultimately they’re cowards. Right. You know, they don’t have currency conviction.
They do everything for expediency. All I got to say to validate what you’re saying is, Dei, Dei. They are cowards. They give in to everything until it comes to their bottom line. That’s why I was surprised at their endorsement of Kamala. All right, so we’ve got negative things going on in the economy, and it’s gonna worsen across multiple fronts. Okay, but what you’ve done at trade, genius, and I know this isn’t the beginning of the end for you, but what you’ve done at trade, genius, is you win two out of three trades. Your rate of returns are phenomenal, off the charts.
And the reason I know that the brokers don’t imitate what you do is because they have to worry about getting sued for risk. So they put everyone in very conservative stances that you don’t have to follow because you’re not a broker. You’re just telling people, this is what we’re doing. And if they follow along, they’re going to make money. Is there going to be a shift where average brokers out of survival needs are going to have to imitate what you’re doing? Oh, no, it’ll be the opposite. They’ll get more conservative. So, look, you know. Yeah. Just to clarify, what we do is that we don’t trade your money.
We don’t take your money. We’re primarily education and software. So we give you our tools, we show you how to use the tools. And then I put trades out there every day to validate the effectiveness of the tool. You’re free to take those trades, but you’re more free then to just take our tools and build your own portfolio from it. So it works. We’re doing a long time, every time I get on the show with you, I send you fresh attaboys of how we’re taking care of people. And it’s really fun environment, really simple. We spent a long time building these tools and they’re literally c trade take trade kind of visual expressions.
So I’d like you to give us a couple examples because I know that you send those to our Skype. And right before we came on, my Skype ain’t working right now and I paid my bill. Yeah, I emailed them to you. Yeah. Oh, okay. I didn’t see that. Okay, so let me check my spam folder here. Thanks a lot. Yeah, let me check spam here real quick. Bob, I think what’s to me is fascinating is I know this isn’t an accurate statement, but from the years I’ve talked to you, it’s almost like trade genius has found a way to help people make money in an environment where people aren’t.
It’s kind of like you’re the ultimate economic contrarian. Yeah, I mean, look, I’m probably not the only one, but, you know, I really don’t care about them. I only care about me helping my clients. So it’s a good tool and it’s conservative. And look, you know, I’m out there. We’re not out there slinging crypto altcoins and chasing penny stocks. These are nice, solid companies that you can get above average returns from and that’s what we try to do. Okay. I’ve got one of these here. By the way, Bob, you went to spam. How interesting. And you and I have exchanged so many emails through the years.
Thanks for the XOM trade, Bob. 17. $50 for me from Jamie Mac 5280. And I’m so familiar with these, this is just phenomenal that these people come out of the woodwork to praise you that come into trade genius. Now here’s what people are going to ask me. So I’ve got to do my due diligence. When I bring a guest on and people are doing something they like, they want to become part of it. So let’s talk realism here for a second, okay. Someone with average knowledge of the stock market don’t have to be a broker, don’t have to be a great investor, but they have some knowledge of the market, okay? And they understand dividends when they come in and take your education materials and then follow your leads.
How long does it take for them typically to turn that into a profit? Well, if they buy, the pair trades right away, within the first month. Well, in fact, even going weekly with some of these now, you’ll start being able to. You’ll be starting to cash flow this stuff within a week or two. Okay. You know, if you just want to be a swing trader, I tell people it takes, like, four months to really learn the lingo and learn how we trade, how we do things, you know, understanding your own risk tolerances and things like that.
And then if you want to do this for a living, it probably take you four years. Okay. So you’re talking a relatively short amount of time. That may be the time that we have left until we really get challenged economically. But I think that the timeframe is pretty small for, like, second income people looking to supplement what they already have. It’s a relatively short period, but if you really want to get good at it and turn it into full time income, you can live on. I hear what you’re saying. That’s a longer endeavor. So, people, here’s.
Here’s how I would sell it. I’m not Bob Kudla, but I would say this. Don’t go to work at Walmart and get a second job. Don’t get a second job over at the local department store. Don’t do that. Okay. This is your opportunity, and you don’t have to leave your home. Do you agree with that statement? Yeah. I mean, if that’s what you want to do, my pitch would be the financial freedom to do what you want. You know, if you put these pear trades on, you know, you just have to check them the first 1520 minutes every day and leave them alone.
You don’t have to even touch them. These are set and forgets, you know, about once a month, I tweak. I tweak the other bias between them. Other than that, you know, my wife and I were laughing and said, you know, you know, when we retire, we better have a job because it’s. You get bored really fast. But both of my wife and I, we could have retired years ago. It’s just, I just want to sit around all day watching tv, you know, and I hear you traveling gets old. We traveled for our corporate jobs, and traveling gets old.
You could say, oh, I want to travel everywhere. Well, you do that for a while, then that gets old, too. So you want to have a blend. My thing is that, look, if you can make $100 a day in the stock market, you’re making $20,000 a year. For most Americans, that’s. That’s pretty good. Extra income, you know, and then with these paratrades on, like I said, you know, I would say conservative, you know, with the way they structure DC, and you can look at, you know, look up yield Max products, you know, look, look at their history of their, of their returns, is that you could probably structure a portfolio where you could be making 25, 30% a year with what they call low volatility, you know, in your underlying.
So there’s a lot of things you can do. And what we do for money pay us to, to help you. You know, it’d be nice to have somebody looking over your shoulder, right, saying, hey, I’d rather buy, I’d buy assist this way, if I were you, you know, but it’s ultimately up to you. And, you know, we’re peanuts. What we charge for the service is nothing compared to what you have. We discount it heavily from people that come to your show. And, you know, we make it up with time staying with us. And that’s kind of how our to get into trade.
Genius. It’s, the cost is infinitesimally small compared to, especially the returns you get on the back end. But before we go, Bob, I want to hit on the algorithm, because some people are. Our audience is growing. I’ll brag here. We’re in the top one half of 1% in the world for our podcast. So by listen notes, I ranked three and a half million. I’m not bragging. It’s because my audience, I got great people in the audience, and they’re going to look at this as an opportunity, and I’m going to tell you what they’re going to say, okay? The economy is getting worse.
The market could follow, okay? Why should I put any investment, any type of attention into this, okay? And what I tell them in my own professional terms? It’s the algorithm. The algorithm tells Bob that he’s developed when to get in, when to get out. You know, you don’t play the market the same way as the conservative broker that doesn’t want to get sued. Can you address that a little bit? Yeah. Look, I mean, if you’re interested in investing at all, you already have money in the stock market. So really it’s, where do you want to put your money in the stock market, right.
If you have no money, then I’m not going to be a service to you anyway, because what are you going to trade with? You know? But if you have money, you know you have it somewhere already. And so all we’re saying is that there are places to go where you can interact. You know, what they call excess Alpha, which is excess above the average, you know, with very low volatility. And then with the swing trades, you know, you’re in and out one or three days, depending how aggressive you want to be. And we have a track record that shows you how much money you can make.
And there’s a couple trades out there that we call corks because they don’t like to stay down. And so you just keep buying those on dips. And so there’s, there’s things that we do and show people how to trade and, and look, a lot of the brokers aren’t going to touch these, these high yield products because they’re, they’re too new for them. But this is something we’ve been doing, you know, before these guys on a custom basis for last ten years. You know, I personally been doing it. So now that they wrapped it into a retail package, I’m like, oh, I don’t want to do all that work anymore.
I’ll just use theirs. So, so that’s what I would say. You know, you would be remiss if you didn’t check out what, what those guys are doing and you didn’t check us out. I mean, you know, the cost of our service, it ranges from $300 a year to a thousand, depending on what level that you choose. You know, the $300 level is the basic package that goes in. Into your room, you know, to join and. Excuse me. And then you get access to all the signals. You get access to our algorithm. You pay $1,000 a year.
You’re getting access to me personally in a room where we’re talking like you and I are talking. So. And then you got great people in that room, a lot of experience, you know, former business owners, different industries. And so you get a lot of good insight. People say it’s more of a think like a think tank as much as it is a trading room. So. So that’s what we do. That’s how we do it. We do a great job. We’ve known it for a long time. Well, I got. I got two questions I need to ask you before we go, because people are going to say, Dave, you should have asked him this.
Okay, first of all, you’re playing the game of winning. Okay? You want to make more money than you’re putting in, so you have a scoreboard at the end. Okay? Your algorithm has produced some amazing results. I’m familiar with it. But people that are coming into our growing audience may not be. So could you talk a little bit about your. Your. Your numbers that are pretty gaudy. Yeah, I gotta bring it up. So we’re gonna get. Right here. Okay? Yeah. So, as of this morning, we’re 66.38% win rate, and we’re annualized out at 55.88%. All right? So I called it.
I know you don’t use that term rate of return, but I’m thinking, what am I getting back? 55%. Then you look at, well, how many trades can I expect to win? Typically, in the trade genius model here, you’re winning two out of three trades. There’s nowhere else, Bob, that I’m aware of that’s even coming close to these numbers. Yeah, well, Dave and you and I have been doing this together for many years, and, you know, that number. That numbers had been in that range doesn’t change, you know, hardly changes the way we structured the algorithm. We want it there.
Okay? So, you know, we want to. You can. You can modify it. You can say, I want to win, you know, 50% of the trades, right? But I want a higher win rate. I’m a higher winning amount where you can say, I only want to win 90% of the time, while you’re. The amount of money you’re going to win is going to be much less. So we think we’ve optimized it, you know, where it’s kind of a win win. So, 65%. We’re happy at that area. We’re a little bit above it right now, and we just keep.
You know, we’re going to keep grinding that way. As long as we’re making people money, we’re not going to change the way we. Okay, I think that’s really good. Now, I got to ask you this, too, and this is just personal curiosity with me. I have zero faith in the banking system, and I know they can keep our money under Dodd Frank. And the Federal reserve has already identified 63 banks that are in trouble. They just won’t tell us which ones they are because they’re afraid people will take their money out. So, do you find that people.
Are you aware of people that come into trade, genius? They do really well. They take their payout, and they’re buying gold, silver, palladium, platinum, crypto, and then they’re also putting it back into trade, genius, to make even more money. Do you find that as a pattern? Well, they don’t all share with me what they do, but the people that join our service tend to favorably view gold, silver, platinum, crypto. That’s what I expect. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, we’re kind of a self selected. Right, because I only come on shows like yours. So, um, you know, I’m not a, I don’t believe holding fiat is, is the way in which you’re gonna make money over time.
Right. So you’re gonna have, you’re gonna have to convert that into stocks and convert it into a store of wealth. So, so, yeah, so, you know, that’s the way it is. And, you know, so if you, if you believe that way, we believe that way, you know, we trade our bias that way. And, and look, we’re, we’re coming into our own now. Gold and silver are really starting to move. We think there’s a, there’s a move yet coming in bitcoin. But in the meantime, you can make a lot of money with bitcoin, just in this range, too.
So we have a specialist room for crypto. Then I handle the crypto stock stuff, you know, like microstrategy and coinbase and, and bito. So I can show you how to make money in crypto without even owning any crypto. So. So there’s a lot of ways in which you can make money in the crypto space with us. And then gold and silver. I’m less a holder of physical. I’m more interested in the miners because it’s leverage, you know, so I rather own, I’d rather own the people that make the stuff than own the stuff. And so, but that’s personal preference.
A lot of people, totally, our customers, totally opposite of me, they take whatever x they get, they store it. So. But that’s up to you. You know, all I’m doing is giving algorithms to help you generate cash flow. And so that’s kind of, I think that’s fantastic. Now, Bob and I, in saying this to the audience, Bob and I have had a professional relationship for years because I believe in what he does. And I’ve personally had many people from our audience tell me that they’ve done really well with trade genius. And so if you want to get started, all you got to do is go to the website Dave lovestrading.com.
dave loves trading, and you’re not obligated to do anything. You’re not going to get a hard sell. I wouldn’t have anybody on my show that would do that and take advantage of my audience. So you’re just going to get people, they’re going to answer questions, you’re going to get it all clearly laid out, and then you’re going to get a blueprint, a Betty Crocker recipe book on how you proceed. Davelovestrading.com dot Bob, this has been really interesting. We’ve covered a full gamut of things in a short amount of time. Who wins the election, in your opinion? You know, if, if the election is secure, I think.
I think Trump pulls it out. Yeah, that’s a good, that’s the big question. If the election is secure. Yeah, and that’s, that’s it. You know, let me ask it. Worst case scenario, Kamala gets in, okay, and with all her crazy marxist ideas, and I don’t think all of them can be implemented because people are only going to follow her line of thinking so far because they got to get reelected to their positions. But let’s assume she gets in. Can trade genius continue to have the success it is with the algorithm you use? Yeah, I mean, we’re not doing anything that would bother, you know, either administration.
So unless the stock market become no longer a stock market, then there’s room for our service. So as long as there’s the market, you’re going to find a way to make the money in it. That’s what I hear. Yeah. Yeah. And we’re not running afoul of anybody, anything that we do. So I don’t worry about that at all. I just, you know, if, look, if the worst case scenario for me is, is that she wins, the Democrats take both sides of the House and, you know, over the next 20 years, you know, basically they’ll rewrite the constitution.
They’ll, you know, the. But I just think things will get so bad so that she should be backpedaling in two years just like what happened to Clinton. Yeah, good point. But it’s not a given, you know, if either chambers goes republican, it’s, you know, basically none of her policies other than what she can do, like what Biden did with, with the administrative state. But Supreme Court already ruled that you can’t have an administrative state anymore. So that’s, it’s going to get really interesting. They’re going to have to pass legislation now. They just can’t make up a rule and make you follow it because Supreme Court said you can’t make a.
Gotta go through Congress. Yeah. Thank goodness for the Supreme Court’s ruling there. So the people who hate Trump, okay, that are Republicans, he did you a big solid here with the people he put into the Supreme Court. Okay, I heard a great line here. This is, this is, we talked about it before the open is that, you know, people are worried. Did Trump do great? The debate was irrelevant. Okay, I agree. With you, I think, you know, most people are locked down who they’re gonna vote for. You can’t change their mind. But there’s people at the margin, and those people, the undecideds kind of are, are really pro Trump.
They said, she did not come across as presidential. She did not come across with policies that we can believe in. We don’t even know what some of her policies are. And late one lady, she summed it up perfectly. If I was voting for somebody to go to parties with, right, and go on vacation with, I’d vote for the different person than I would vote for somebody who’s going to make sure that I have food on the table and a job to go to. And I think that really sums up, really what we’re dealing with here. You know, substance.
Substance over style, right? And. And so people have to make a decision, you know, and you have to respect it. This is what people want. You know, I totally agree. I have to live with it. I think more and more people are living with it now, you know, but it’ll accelerate, you know, after the election. So, you know, I’ve had some prominent GOP, and this is given to me in confidence, but I can share the content. And I’ve been hearing this now for about three weeks. She didn’t get a bump from the debate because when you sit there and smirk and make ten year old faces at your opponent while they’re talking, that destroys confidence and professional judgment.
And then the second thing, as you said, like you said very well, we don’t know what her policies are. We know what she was and what she was is scary. And american people are waking up to that. And what I’m hearing that the Republicans in the know are anticipating is because the independents after the debate move closer to Trump, 60% undecided voters that are independent in a survey said they’re going to vote for Trump, 30% for Kamala, that what they’re going to probably do is take money away from her. They’re gonna back some of the donors money out, and they’re gonna use it down line to try to win the House and the Senate and also various state legislators.
That’s what I keep hearing. So I think your analysis is right. And the question is, and this is what one prominent Republican in Arizona told me, if they know they can’t cheat enough to guarantee a victory, and the key word was guarantee a victory, that they’re gonna go downline with their money away from Kamala. And especially with what you’re saying, that this economy is going to start to crater as we get closer to the election. People are going to vote where they are in the minute. When they go in the grocery store and that loaf of bread has gone up another $0.50, they’re not going to vote for Kamala.
There’s no way they’re going to vote for her. This has really been revelatory. I think a lot of people, Bob, are going to listen to this interview and they’re going to think, thank goodness for Bob Kudlik, because he’s given me some hope. So again, Dave, lovestrading.com dot. What’s the turnaround time when someone signs up for trade genius, they pay the entrance fee. What’s the turnaround time to when they can really get started overnight? Okay, I knew that, but I wanted to ask you for the benefit of my audience. Yeah, one last thing, too. So if you go directly to trade genius, let people know.
It’s tradelike a genius.com dot. Let me know. You came from Dave the Hodges, our common sense show here. So I give Dave credit for it and you can get your proper pricing. And, yeah, we don’t do hard sells. All. You call in, you ask all the questions you want. Yeah. You know, you want to think about it. We say think about it. If you want to do it, we say do it. You say you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. We really don’t care either way. You know, we just, we just hope that you see the value, what we do and join us.
And, and, and these tools. I. These tools are game changer guys. They’re absolutely game changers. And just. I’ll give you a final aside. So my daughter started a business, but she had money in her, her brokerage account from various gifts from grandma over the years. Right? And we structured it around these trades for her that because she has to pay a lease on where she’s working, because she’s independent contractor and her lease is being paid for by these trades, by these pear trades. Okay. And it is very consistent. You know, uh, she, you know, she has $45,000 invested in it and she’s bringing down twelve hundred dollars a month from, from it.
Okay. And very conservatively, uh, invest it. So she’s a dad. It just takes a lot of pressure off me. I could just now focus on, on making money to live. I don’t have to focus on actually, you know, making the business pay first. And so those. It doesn’t take much to, you know, you know, you put $50,000 in, you know, you’re making twelve month. And that’s not. This is a conservative. This is a conservative one. You can make more, you know, if you want, if you’re willing to go out on the risk curve a little bit.
But yeah. And so for her, that’s what she, she wanted. I sat down, I showed her what it looked like, how to do it, and she doesn’t have to touch it at all. Okay. If you asked her today how she structured, say, I don’t know, I haven’t looked. But she just knows. Every Tuesday, you know, she gets, she’s getting an automatic transfer into her bank account, you know, so, so those are the kind of things now, you know, talk about time value, right, of money. There you go. You know, so those are the kind of things we can help you with.
Well, you know, I know I got a gun. I know you got to go. But, um, you know, I could probably, we could probably do a Jerry Lewis marathon, you know, I want to just make sure we get this in, though. Go to davelovestraining.com. there’s built in discounts for you when you come through us. And Bob is someone I’ve known for years. I’ve never had anyone come back and say, Dave, this was not a good deal. I’ve never had that. Not one time. Not one time, people. And I’m telling you, you can trust Bob Kudlan. You hear the economic analysis that he does every time he comes on.
Bob, this was a very good interview. I appreciate you coming on. These are volatile times. And I’m glad we can find one business that can keep their head above water and not be destroyed by the politics. And that’s not common today. Cause I hear from a lot of hurting people out there. So I wanna thank you so much for coming on. God bless you, and we’ll see you back here again next month. Great. Thanks, Dave.
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