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And if they don’t, I reject them. It’s that simple. Ladies and gentlemen, if it’s constitutional, I love it. And if it’s not, I hate it. Sheriff Mack, welcome to the show. Sir, your initial thoughts? Thanks. It’s great to be back with you for the Sheriff Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers association webinar. I’m really still in shock. There was one piece of great news and Buddy, you need to hear this, too real quickly. And we’ll introduce you in a minute here. I’ve actually been fighting photo radar tickets for a long time and I actually got one six months ago and I’m still fighting it.
And my wife just said, you don’t have time for this. Just let it go. Just go pay your $390. I said, I can’t do it. I’m not going to acquiesce. I’m not going to go along with them. This is totally unconstitutional. So the good news there is there was a proposition voter referendum that was resoundly beat almost 2 to 1. And I think just because they worded it crazy is the only reason the way people voted to get rid of photo radar machines and tickets, they got rid of them. So God bless the people of Arizona who did that.
I’m actually. Hold on. Are they getting rid of these flock cameras, too, or just the radar? It did not include one for flock cameras. Sorry. Shoot. Well, hey, we’ll take whatever we can get. That is phenomenal news. We’re excited about that. Ladies and gentlemen, that’s about the only good news from last night. There is a few blips of good news as well. We’ll get into that as the show unfolds, but I want to bring on Buddy Mason first with Revelation Gold Group, and Buddy is really making a difference. If you want to learn more about the precious metals, go to sheriff mack metals.com it’ll be your first step to diversifying your savings, ladies and gentlemen, you could talk to a real person.
If you have a question. It’s all about precious metals. So call 888-465-3049-888846-53049 if you want to talk to a real person. And what the deal is is this. Revelation Gold Group is a unique company because they’re not just interested in, you know, selling you money or giving you gold and silver. They’re interested in the moral aspect to this. In other words, the godly aspect to this. Mason and others have spent 20 plus years in constitutional currency. They’ve been doing a great job as financial advisors and more. And all I can tell you is Sheriff Mack believes in Revelation Gold Group as well.
We had them on the show last hour, by the way, so if you missed that, look back@libertyroundtable.com and you can check out the show. But Revelation Gold Group, Buddy Mason, welcome to the show. And let’s talk about who you guys are. Who owns Revelation Gold Group, who’s involved? Who’s the leadership? What, what’s happening? Who are we dealing with? Yeah. So thanks for having me. Revelation Go Group is owned by just a couple of guys that have been in the, the precious metals business for a number of years, worked in it. And honestly, what they, after working in the, in the industry for a number of years, they thought, you know, there’s got to be kind of a better way to go about this.
The precious metals industry, kind of like a lot of industries, there’s some unscrupulous characters in it that kind of take advantage of people, charge, you know, exorbitant rates with their margins and premiums that they charge, kind of twist people’s arms and use a lot of high pressure sales tactics and that kind of stuff. And these guys thought, you know, let’s try this another way where we just kind of educate people and really help them to steward what God has entrusted them with. And so they went out and set out about three and a half years ago now.
I think it’s been informed. Revelation Go Group and it’s amazing when you just try to help people, God rewards it. And the company’s done very well. Sheriff Mac they find out that when you get an education, it becomes a revelation about what’s really happening with honest money and how they can position their portfolios there. Well, for sure. And the Constitution even requires that states will use gold and silver for all transactions. But it doesn’t say that for the federal Government, but so it says the federal government’s supposed to make sure the states do. So I don’t quite understand that.
Maybe they just took it. Obviously the founding fathers took it for granted that they would. That the federal government would never go outside using gold and silver. And obviously we’ve already been explained to during the last hour, but maybe we need to, buddy, to do that again, explain what really happens to paper money as if we don’t know. My question right now, buddy, just before you leave is we have some members in Australia and at least one in Germany and a couple in Canada. Canada. Can you place orders to all those places? And when I send a book to any of those places, it costs about three times what the normal price of the book is or product that I’m sending.
What’s the problem there? And can you do it? Yeah, it depends on the country and it depends on the product. So the answer is yes, probably. But depending, you know, there are individual situations and depending upon the country. So we would have to kind of get into the details of what we’re able to do and how. You know, one of the things that we’re able to do and that we really didn’t talk about last time is something that a lot of folks aren’t aware of is you can set up a gold, what we call a gold ira, which is really a self directed IRA where people can put a portion of their retirement income into precious metals.
So a lot of people don’t even know that that exists or that’s sort of a thing. So you don’t have to really use new money, if you will. You can use money that you’ve already set aside into retirement program and just position a portion of that for gold and silver. Wanted to go back real quick to your mention about the police camera. We just in, in the area where I live, we just got rid of of flock cameras. So I’m happy about that. Just as a side note, where do you live? I don’t mean to pin you down, but this is important.
People want to celebrate. Sir? Oh, yeah, Lynch. I live in Lynchburg, Virginia, so. And you guys got rid of the flock cameras. A shout out to you people. Good work. How do we make that spread across the nation? Sheriff MACK well, we know where, where we. We know where Lynchburg is. We had a big CSPA conference there and that’s Liberty University and we love that university. I’m a Liberty grad. My wife’s a professor there. I’ve got four kids there right now. So. Wow, you’re Going broke then. That’s for sure. Well, she’s. Because she’s a professor, we get a significant break there, so.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, you want to learn more about the Gold group? You want to learn more about what’s going on? You want to get a free guide, a free kit to help you kind of understand how they can position your portfolio for success whether you’re in or out of the country. 888-456-3049. That’s 888-4563. It’s actually 4, 6, 5 or 4. I’m sorry. 888-46530. 49 is the answer. And tell us about the kit that people get. Yeah. So there’s a couple different things you can request when you go online. One is a wealth protection guide and another one is what we.
It’s a booklet we call the Faithful Steward. And it just shows you kind of from a biblical context, kind of how God, what God, you know, thinks about money and, and how you should position your finances kind of accordingly. By the way, you can go to sheriffmack metals.com you can read their terms and conditions. You can learn about the details. And if you’re willing to put some real money into this thing, they’ve got some incredible discounts. They’re not crazy discounts because Mason highlighted this reality, folks. There’s not a lot of bottom when it comes to honest money.
You can’t sell honest money less than its real value. You just can’t. You can just get as close to its real value as you can or else people are losing money. So when they tell you something’s too good to be true or hey, this doesn’t stack up, it. That’s really the reality, ladies and gentlemen. So think about your portfolio from a variety of points of view. Think about taking possession of precious metal, but also think about if you’re talking about $100,000 plus and more, then they’ve got all kinds of IRAs and solutions that can benefit you.
It’s not a completely different ira, except it lets you self direct what you’re going to invest in and kind of understand. Sheriff Mack, this is important for people to understand. You just need a trust, trust partner. It’s like a car mechanic. Get a bad guy and it all goes south. Get a good guy and things go right. Gold and silver, is that times fifty, a thousand, whatever number you want to use because your money’s at stake, right, Sheriff? Yeah. And we’re glad to be partnering with Revelation Gold and Buddy and his entire staff there at Revelation, and we’re proud to share this with our CSPOA members and anybody who comes to our website.
And so, folks, we’ve done our homework. We’ve used other companies before, and we were really disappointed with several of them. And we really did some research this time, and we’re really glad we found Revelation and we’re going to make them part of the cspoa. In fact, Buddy, we ask that you become a member, and you can do that@cspoa.org, very easy to do. We hope we get your lovely wife to become a member. We’d love to have a professor at Liberty University, but this is just the partnership that we have, folks. You need to understand that we will actually make a little bit of money off of the stuff that you buy with Revelation Gold.
I should call it stuff, the precious metals that you get at Revelation Gold. And this is when you put it in your hand and hold it and look at it, you won’t say, just stuff. You’ll be like, when you hold a real piece of real money, folks, everybody can feel it when you hold it. You just feel it and you go, hey, man, this has value. You know, you hold a dollar bill and you’re like, I hope not too many people have touched this thing. I don’t want to. I love how the gold and silver feel in my hand.
I love that, you know, but, but. And you could do your, you can do your IRA and, and you can put part of that in to gold and silver. A lot of people are doing that nationwide, folks. That’s like one of the biggest things real gold companies offer today. And I’ve done it. And, and I’ll, I’ll tell you right now, it’s an absolute wonderful system. And, Buddy, do you have anything to add about the IRA thing? Well, I was just going to mention, you know, how this all kind of came about is, is the focus on real money.
You know, we, we used to real use real Money Prior to 1971, when we were on the gold standard. The only reason we carried around dollar bills was really just for convenience sake. There was real gold backing that stuff up. And then in 1971, kind of famously, Nixon got on TV and said, we’re going to temporarily go off of the gold standard. Of course, that was 55 years ago, so that’s a pretty long, temporary. Meanwhile, what’s happened, of course, is we’ve just printed so many dollar bills because people often ask me, like, you think we’ll go back to the gold standard? I don’t see how, because there’s so many dollars floating around, there’s simply not enough gold to back it all up.
You know, that’s one of the key points of gold, is there’s only a limited quantity of it. They’re not making more of it. There’s only been about metric tons of gold ever mined in the history of human existence. Now, to put that in perspective, if you were to. That fills up about three and a half Olympic sized swimming pools. So yeah, that’s a pretty big space. But when you think about the 9 or 10 billion people that are on planet Earth even right now, that’s really not a lot. When you think about that’s all that’s ever been mined in the history of the world.
So the fact that there’s only a finite amount of it, the fact that it’s, you know, been a store of value for 5000 years, mentioned over 400 times in the Bible, the fact that it’s a hedge against inflation, it’s a hedge against the market. Other countries are buying it up in literal record quantities all over the world. You know, those are all things that point to a pretty good future for precious metals, particularly Goldie Mason, everybody with Revelation Gold Group, they’re into education and that’s really one of the most important things. Things. Not only will you get constitutional currency and put a hedge into your portfolio and steadily grow your wealth over time, which is the key with honest money.
You don’t just get rich quick, that’s not the way it works. But you steadily move forward in a meaningful, guided way. That’s what the education is about. But whenever Perry Mason, I mean, Brother Mason talks, it turns out that it becomes a revelation. You learn things you didn’t know before. And that’s kind of critical to understanding honest money. You get an honest education backed by honest money. And it’s called Revelation Gold Group to get involved and become a partner or a beneficiary, if you will. And I don’t mean the insurance form, I just mean, hey, you can benefit by having gold and silver little over directly to your door.
Think Sheriff MacMetals.com Mason Anything else? No, just pleasure to work with you and any of your folks that we can. And again, just know that if you call us or contact us, we’re not going to do arm twisting. We’re going to just educate you like you mentioned, Sam, and just try to try to help you in any way that we can. All right, give out your number again, because I tend to butcher it. Let’s get it right. It’s 888-465-3049. Or like you say, you can go to SheriffMacMetals.com and that will help you guys out as well.
There he goes, everybody. Mason, brother Mason, doing a phenomenal job for us. Thank you, sir. We’ll talk soon. Okay, thanks, Mason. See you soon. All right, there he goes. Doing a great job. And if you can’t remember that sheriffmacmetals.com just go to CSP way.org and of course, we have a link and information there. And we’re going to be creating some commercials to be running radio and TV commercials to help you remember. I know sometimes it takes a time or two or three or four to remember where to go and to take time to get it done.
You know, you got, oh, man, I’ve been meaning to go to this. And then you get it done. So we’ll keep telling you the tale. We have Several other sponsors, cspua.org and remember, when you partner with these sponsors, what you’re really doing is making it possible for the CSPA to continue our incredible work around the country, regardless of party. So last night has no effect on what we do. Sheriff 0 yeah, yeah. And I, you know what, Sam? I guess I got a little bit nostalgic watching the results last night. I remember when I was a little boy being that disappointed when Barry Goldwater lost to Linda.
I thought it was when you didn’t get a BB gun for Christmas. Yeah, yeah. Christmas story. But no, I, you know, because I was going down the hall and watching the TV with my parents. I’d go back in my bedroom crying and pray and I’d get on my knees and pray for the numbers to turn around and they never did. And I think Goldwater won two states out of the 50. And, and I love Goldwater. And now I want to ask Arizona, whatever happened to your Barry Goldwater type leaders? I almost said politicians leaders. Sad. Just so everybody understands what you’re talking about.
Arizona House turns blue, ending 60 years of Republican control. That is just, I don’t even know how to respond to that. That is just gargantu. Historical change. Sam, I haven’t said this yet since you and I have been talking about this last night and this morning. Yeah, but I’m sorry, but I believe that the number one reason that this happened was because of the greatest election fraud ever committed, perhaps in the world, but definitely in our country where the Democrat Party and we put this obviously in our book, the Democrat Murder of America, where the Democrat Party has brought in over 30 million people and they put them on the voter rolls to make sure that this type, this type of monopoly would begin.
And it has begun and they’re going to open the borders again and they’re going to get a mistake is that we didn’t deport faster. That’s correct. And they’re going to initiate amnesty for the 30 million that are here and they’ll probably get a lot of it and it’ll probably happen. And so the monopoly for this is, is start started yesterday. SAM and it’s really going to kick into high gear, but crime’s going to increase and inflation’s going to increase, obviously, and, and Sam, I have never wished you were more wrong. Oh, me too. I pray I absolutely write so much so I’m almost scared.
This is why it happened. And Sam, the need for cspoa, the need for constitutional sheriffs just went up a hundredfold last night and this morning. And so what I want to do with and I know I didn’t tell you this, but this will be easy for you and me to do. I want. Famous last words. Sarah well, I want to go over the history of the CSPOA and the sheriffs in this country that has stood for freedom and, and risk their jobs and careers and maybe, you know, what really needs to be done, though. Sheriff to do it right.
I don’t mind going over the history now and it’s valuable to do and everything else, but really it ought to be a movie. I’m just telling you, it ought to be a movie. Sheriff yeah, and we really haven’t and in a way I’ve done a book about it a little bit, the County Sheriff, America’s Last Hope. But to go through every little thing and every sheriff that has done something would take up a lot of, you know, be one excellent book. And I agree with you, we need to make a movie out of this and folks, we need the funding to do that.
And I’m going to Vegas in about a week with and I’m meeting Steve to Manella there. And this is exactly what we’re going to be talking about. And so we want to get this message out, folks. We’ve been doing this now for 14, 15 years. We started in CSPA in 2011. I was doing this before that, ever since my lawsuit started and even a little bit before that because I was doing this with my sheriff’s office, Graham County Sheriff. I was promoting constitutional sheriffs and deputies and public officials. The entire really, the story goes, ever since you walked into that police station in Provo, Utah, asked the lady for a copy of your oath is really when it all began.
And you’ve been advocating and focusing on. It’s just become more and more formalized and more and more organized as we’ve continued to grow and tell the tale and write books and create the training guides and all the things that we’ve worked on. Thank heavens for all the citizens and Americans taking part in this with us. That’s what made it possible. But it’s really been a not a destination, but a quest, Sheriff, is what we’re really on. Right, right, right. And so, folks, I’ve been saying that CSPOA had a peaceful and effective solution, probably the most effective peaceful solution that there ever was.
And now what, what peaceful and effective solutions do we have to the tyranny that’s going to be forced upon us? And it’s going to be county by county, folks, and that’s going to include you, we the people, a posse, working with the sheriff and helping him uphold and defend, protect and preserve the United States Constitution and each of us. And so, Sam, I still want to go over that. And so, in fact, I’m going to have you go first. And maybe you mentioned the one you want to talk about because, you know, you mentioned a real good one.
But before the city clerk, before I met her, the day before, I think is when it really started. And that’s when I didn’t write that ticket to that lady. And oh, I wish I could. Oh, I wish I could see her again. Man, I would love to give her a hug. But this is we’re talking 1983. She might not even be alive anymore. And yeah, she’s 43 years since that, ladies and gentlemen. And I want people to understand that little simple story. You know, Sheriff Mack basically was just kind of an average cop writing tickets, doing whatever they do day to day, you know, generating revenue.
And he had an experience that changed his life. And so this lady’s driving with her kids in the car. She’s distracted, she’s overwhelmed. She doesn’t make the best choices. It starts there, right? Sheriff? Yeah. And I was parked in a blue police vehicle with the red and blue lights. You know, they called them gumball machines because each one, you know, had its own little and it was shaped by like a gumball machine. And one was red and one was blue. And she ran the stop sign right in front of me. Sam, I’m the only living thing at the intersection.
In fact, I’m right there at the intersection and this lady from the. From my left to my right ran a stop sign. What is she doing? And then right when she is about to finish going through the intersection, she looks over surprised and looks over at me and goes, oh my. And she goes. She throws her hands up in the air. And as if to say what else could go wrong today? Because I could tell what she was doing in the car. I saw her, she was trying to calm her children down. And then I walk up to the.
It’s almost a Jesus, take the wheel moment for her. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. This is one of my favorite songs actually, by Carrie Underwood. But so we went through the process. I’m writing the ticket, and at the end of the ticket, I paused and I was just writing my name, signing my name and putting my serial number down. 793 was my serial number because I was the third officer hired in 1979. So 793. And I paused and the epiphany started. And I looked down at this depressed, dejected woman who never said a word to me. And I looked down at her snotty nose.
Kids, some of them still fighting and crying. She’s not there anymore. She’s not even talking to him. I looked down at her dilapidated old car that wasn’t worth 250 bucks. And then I looked at me. And it was the most penetrating gaze I had ever felt in my life. This epiphany was extremely powerful. And a couple three questions came to my mind. Mac, is there anything you’re doing here that’s helping this family? Is there anything you’re doing here that’s making this town and this community a better place to live? And is there anything you’re doing that’s bringing honor to the badge you wear on your chest? And now I’m more depressed than this woman is.
I’m very ashamed of myself. I take the ticket with me and I leave. I don’t say a word to her. And by the way, Americans by the millions are celebrating because they’re realizing that this throw up the hands, Jesus, take the wheel moment. The Lord’s working on the good sheriff. He wasn’t even a sheriff then. Working on the rookie cop. Officer. Mac. Yeah. And. And so this is kind of really the important part. And this can happen in hearts all over this land regardless of who’s in power. Sheriff and I almost submit, the more tyrannical the power, the greater the opportunity for this to occur in people’s hearts and minds all over the country.
Yeah. And some of our sheriffs what they’re doing with flock cameras right now and supporting flat cameras really worries me. And some of the political moves by sheriffs and other. And chiefs of police and what’s happening in Washington state right now and how sheriffs are fighting and standing. And one sheriff, especially sheriffs swank in Pierce County, Washington. Yes. And he’s. And he’s battling for his. They’re trying to get rid of him and they’re going to make a charter town out of where he lives or the county is going to make a charter county and they’re going to get rid of him.
They’re going to tell him to leave. As part of their charter, they will appoint the sheriffs from now on. And so we need this so badly, not just because of last night, but because of what’s been going on. And maybe, maybe that’s the silver lining that this is going to wake up a lot of sheriffs and peace officers and chiefs of police, because the chiefs of police are working with the sheriffs in Washington state to save the office of sheriff. And good for them for doing it, by the way. Yeah, totally. So the lady had a huge impact on me.
And she left. And then that brought me the next day to come back to work. And. And I was looking for an answer. And I was looking for why we have cops. Why do we treat people like we do? Why do we sit there and write these stupid tickets and act like we’re doing something for society when we’re destroying lives. She. I’m not helping this lady or her family. I wasn’t. And a true back, really. You’re adding insult to injury, sheriff. Yeah, right. Yeah. And. And so she obviously couldn’t afford this ticket. She. I could have come up with a better plan for her and her kids right then to just go over to the Franklin School where I was, the 600 West, 300 south, where I gave this ticket, and just have her go play with her kids on the playground right there.
This was before they were locked up like, like prisons. You could walk through any school back then. And so they could go over on the playground at the school and just get a little bit of that energy out and, and have a good time for a minute. I say, ma’, am, I’m glad no one was hurt. Why don’t you take your kids over there and play for a few minutes? And I bet they like that. And I’ll bet you will, too. Let’s get cleaned up. Let’s dry your tears and your frustrations. Let’s take a little Breath.
Let’s feel the sunshine and enjoy the, you know, the freedom of America for a second. Let’s just take a quick little breather. And then she kind of leaves going, wow. Now that’s community policing at its best. Yeah. And, Sam, just like you were saying about a movie, I want that scene. I want that on a movie. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s like the old Buck Owens song. You know, they’re gonna put me in the movies. All I gotta do is act naturally. That would be the sheriff. He’d just be in a cop uniform and he’d just act naturally.
Right. All you’d have to do is be yourself in the movie. I have to have somebody a little bit younger play me, since now I’m 73 and at the time I was probably 25 or 27 my second. Let’s see, the real question is, who’s gonna cast as the good sheriff or the good, you know, the police officer at the time? I’ve already got one in mind. All right. Okay. You know escaping Germany? The Angel Studios. Yes. The guy that played the elder that was helping get all the other elders out of Germany. Do you know his name? No, but I’m sure I can ask Angels.
We can get it real quick and contact him. Why don’t we do that? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we gotta do is get the right people involved in making the movie, folks. Yeah. Yes, but it might start with. If this guy learned about it and agreed to be the Sheriff Mack in the movie. That would be a start. You’d have him help advocate for it, right? Yeah. He’s young, he’s. He’s tall, he’s nice looking. He’s very. Movie called Escape from. Escape from Germany during World War II. When. Right before Poland was invaded by Hitler. So, yeah, so it was a.
The time frame would have been about 1940, but this movie came out just a year ago. So I’m sure he’s still acting and ready to go. But if he’s not, we’ll get him anyway. But. And I’m sure there’s other people we could pick. You know, there’s. There’s probably some relative of mine somewhere that might want to try it. But. But, Sam, this is it. I. I really still want to do some of the. You and I have had some amazing spiritual and patriotic experiences with our sheriffs. And I want. I want you to go first. What’s besides my epiphany with this lady and didn’t give her the ticket? Isn’t it, Paul? What? Rich sheriff? I think that’s his name, his real name? Paul what? Rich? Oh, is that Wuth.
Oh, you looked him up already. Rich Paul what? I think you say what Rich? I’m not sure. Maybe so Anyway, he plays the elder there, Norm Sable. Elder Sable, that’s the missionary who went ahead and did all that. So all you got to do is get a hold of Paul sheriff, call him up. Yeah, well, I. And I love that movie. It’s a great movie. I’ve seen it three or four times and it’s an amazing movie. But I want you to give what you’re looking. It doesn’t have to be chronological in any way. It doesn’t have to be in order.
Who’s besides my lawsuit and besides me, your favorite sheriff story. Who stood up and put his life in line and at least put his career on the line? Yeah, I would say that it would be Liberty County, Florida. And the reason that I say that is because our dear sheriff at the time was just hanging out with his wife at a restaurant in the evening. Yeah, he’s just being a normal guy and that’s what I want people to understand. Real sheriffs, real peace officers are not these rock star, you know, whatever. And we could say his name.
They’re real people. Sure, go ahead. Nick Finch. Nick Finch. Sheriff Finch was sitting with his wife at dinner. He gets a call from his deputy. And the deputy says, hey man, I got this guy arrested. He had a gun in his console of his car. And you know, this is a. So sheriff decides he’s gonna tell his wife, let’s take a rain check. And he leaves and he goes down there and he says, I’m not going to arrest this guy because he had a gun. There is such a thing as the second Amendment and I’m going to honor it.
And so he said, I’m going to let the guy go. I’m not going to violate the second amendment. I’m going to stand tall. So he lets the guy go. The guy was harming no one. The guy did nothing wrong. The guy had every right of his. God given unalienable right of self defense. And so he let the guy go. And the sheriff and the deputy kind of had an issue there a little bit. And then this thing starts to get legs. And the, the deputy told on him, the deputy turned, the deputy told on him. And eventually the governor of Florida got involved.
And eventually the governor arrested the sheriff. And this caused a big problem because like, who has authority? So he basically arrested the sheriff, removed him from office, took away his pay, and so the Battle was on. And the reason I love this story so much is because the name of the county, Liberty county, is pretty important here. Yeah. And so this guy basically stands tall. He reaches out to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. In other words, Sheriff Mack and company. Grateful to be part of that company, by the way. And that means you and me and everybody else that’s involved here.
Sheriff Mack then partners with Nick Finch, helps fund and tell the truth about what’s going on. Eventually, it goes to court. And Sheriff Mack, I want you to tell the story from here because you. We’re not going to go to court. Well, I would. I was at his trial, and it was actually on h. Halloween Day. It, for some, I think it started the day before, but the next day was Halloween day, and I thought it was going to be over by then. So I had my flight to leave that afternoon from the Pensacola Airport, which was near Liberty County.
And so I was on my way home when somebody emailed me and informed me I was up 30,000ft up in the air and informed me that he was exonerated. Now, he appealed the charges, and he was charged with two felonies. Destruction of public records. And then something else. I can’t remember. But he was charged with two felonies. And if he gets found guilty, he can never be in law enforcement again, never be a sheriff again. He’s going to lose his job and his pension. And so I helped in the trial. I did not testify, but I helped him all the way through.
And you’re right, CSB Way helped fund his lawyer. And we put in about $30,000 to the defense of one sheriff Nick Finch. The trial was done by a retired judge. They called somebody in without connections. And that was probably smart, except this judge was really stupid. I don’t know what he was thinking, if he got a little senile because he was already retired and whatnot, but he did not know what he was doing. And he spent more time chewing the crowd out for making any emotional outbursts. Like if something was funny, people laughed and he would chew him out.
Imagine that. Yeah. And. And, you know, if something really shocked the crowd, they would go, you know, they would take a gasp, you know, like that. And I told you people, you want me to clear this better than Donald Trump reality TV in this courtroom, ladies and gentlemen. So anyway, the point is, the sheriff was there and there was Liberty had in Liberty County. And the judge basically was honorable, at least in the sense that he let things happen as they needed to. And there was a Jury one. And there was a jury. Yes sir. That’s what I mean by it all went down according to the way it ought to be.
Right? Right. And so Nick Finch won, the governor of the state of Florida lost, Sheriff Finch received back pay, was reinstated and there was Liberty had in Liberty county and the CSPOA was part of it. In my opinion. This was a picture. It’s almost like your case, Sheriff, that there were so many elements of God’s hand in the victory that it is shocking when you dig into the details. Nick Finch stood tall for the right to keep and bear arms for the right to be a normal citizen. He literally imposed on his behalf of his citizen.
He stood in the middle there and protected and defended your God given unalienable rights of self defense. I mean everything about this case was virtually a picture perfect example of what you started and what you stood tall for. But yet on a county and a state, because the governor got involved basis, I mean we’ve now gone to the federal one, gone to the county one, gone to the state one. And the reason I like this case so much is because it almost mirrored your case, but in reality on the ground in a sheriff’s jurisdiction, I mean it was incredible.
And so the, in my opinion, the miracles that took place along the way for that were incredible too. That the CSPA had the funding because of everybody, that our members, that we could stand by him, learn about his case, get involved, help him. I mean we went all the way through the whole thing and the Lord took part in this. In my humble opinion, it’s a huge story. So Liberty was had in Liberty county and it’s one of my favorite because of that. I mean it’s just incredible of how it mirrors your case, but yet brings it to the, I mean we’ve again county, state, federal, we’ve been to them all.
And the sheriff won every time in these examples. Sheriff? Yeah, and, and you probably. Yeah, and it was a spiritual experience. And when I heard about it, the news that he was exonerated, the jury deliberated about only 45 minutes. I hugged him and hugged his wife when I left and I said, sorry, I can’t change my ticket and I’ve got to go. And then I’m 36,000ft up in the air. And as soon as I saw the email come across my laptop that he won and then he’s going to return to the sheriff’s office with all his back pay and a little bit more, actually I almost jumped up and yelled and I thought, man, I stopped Myself, immediately I stopped myself and I go, are you crazy? You’re going to stand up and yell on a plane, 36,000ft? I’d probably get arrested, you know.
And so I go, right when I go, I go, oh, no. And so I said a little prayer and thank the good Lord, and I returned the email. And then as soon as I landed, I called Sheriff Finch and it was, it was quite a humbling, wonderful experience with him. And, and then the follow up is that we had a CSP event just recently, not very long ago, Sheriff Finch made the track and came and spoke. And, you know, it’s just old friends, you shake hands, you, you feel like we’re making a difference. Sheriff that’s really what the CSPOA is about, right? He got divorced from that wife that was there at the time and he’s retired now and he spoke at our event in Florida a year and a half ago.
And I’m just, we’re still really, really good friends. And it was a godsend. And you’re right calling it a miracle. And there were several, obviously, with that. My other one is, but think about Liberty and Liberty County. Think about your federal level or the whatever. And then his example at the county. And then they forced it to be a state trying to shut the county leader or the Cleo down. But yet, no, that didn’t even work. I mean, it takes all legitimate governmental jurisdictions into play here. That’s why I like that case so much, is it really echoes your case in a very unique way.
Sheriff. Yeah, and, and you know, I could easily go with the sheriffs for my next sheriff story. The sheriffs that conducted investigations on election fraud a couple of years ago, two, three years ago. And then we had a darling company. Yes, yes. And then we had a big conference in Las Vegas about that. And that’s when CNN wanted to go after me and attack me, and they did. And that pictures in my new book, the Democrat Murder of America with Sarah Sydner, the liar in Chief. And I still have an open invitation for Sarah to join me on the radio and tv, but she’s not.
Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. That open invitation stands. That’s a great example. The other example that I would pick though, really is New Mexico sheriff, where the pastor and the sheriff partner, because that one has huge implications as well for so many reasons, it’s not even funny. Summarize that most people know about this one. But I think it’s really important to summarize because this has. When you put a religious leader, think of the Black Road Regiment of yesteryear and the founding father standing at the pulpit teaching people correct principles then partnering with local law enforcement. I mean it echoes of the.
I’m going to call them the posse but some might call him an, an organized militia and really that’s the defense of America, of our God given rights, of the interposing. That can really happen. And if you don’t think the sheriff has authority, this proves it really does. The the pastor and the sheriff partnered and all the citizens celebrated their liberties because of their stand. Sheriff, it’s huge. During the peak of COVID 19 this is when this happened folks. And if you recall folks, most governments were shutting down. Every government entity, every business, every school except for the lap dancing bars.
They could stay open. Oh yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. And all the churches were required to shut down. And Pastor Caleb Cooper went to sheriff. And I can’t remember the name of the county but Glenn Hamilton was the sheriff and that was Caleb Cooper Sheriff. And I don’t even think they knew each other very well. They probably knew each other. They didn’t at the beginning. They say straight out they didn’t know each other very well. Yeah, right. And Pastor Cooper told the sheriff, just so you know, the government doesn’t run our church. Jesus Christ runs our church.
And we’re not going to close, we’re not going to shut down at all. My question to you Sheriff is that what are you going to do to protect me and my congregation when we fail to comply with these mandates to shut our church down? And Sheriff Hamilton’s response will be the next thing we need to have in our movie and that is this. If it takes having to go to jail myself, so be it because I will do everything in my power to protect you and keep you open. By the way, it was Sheriff Hamilton of the Sierra County Sierra.
I almost said severe but Sierra county severes in Utah, Sierra can of New Mexico. Anyway, continue. I don’t mean to interrupt. No, I’m glad you got the geography out of the way. So Sierra county in New Mexico. And so they, these two gentlemen worked together on this. Sheriff Hamilton went to his church a couple of times and then the word got to the state that Sheriff Hamilton was not closing this man down. And the notice came to the sheriff that the state police was coming, ordered by Governor Grisham, a tyrant in and of herself and a gun grabber besides.
And so that day Sheriff Hamilton was at church with Pastor Caleb Cooper and his congregation. I don’t know how many people came, officers came from the state, I would imagine there were several. Could have been 10, a dozen could have been four or five. And they approached the church. They were, I don’t want to say confronted, met. They were met by Sheriff Hamilton outside the church. And Sheriff Hamilton told these officers something they’d probably never heard before. He said, I’m here at church with these wonderful people and this wonderful pastor and his family. And I have to tell you something.
I have deputized every single person in that church, men, women and children. They’re deputized and they’re under my authority. And I am allowing under my authority, this posse to remain in this church. I will be here the entire time. I will be here every Sunday. But they’re not closing down. And I’d appreciate if every one of you would turn around and go home. Yeah. So. And they tried to give a few arguments to see if the sheriff would cave. He basically, in my opinion, had the hand of God on his shoulder, giving him guidance of what to say.
And he said, no, we’re not backing down. We’re not. You don’t have authority here. It’s time to go home. And he stood his ground. And because he did and because the pastor stood right beside him and stood his ground, then we had religious liberty that day. And that’s where all liberties come from, folks. You got to understand that the police, they left. They left, folks. Sam was correct when he said, every time we’ve had such an incident with a sheriff in this country, no matter what state it was, even California, the sheriff has won every time.
And this is why Sheriff Mack has taught for since really the mid-90s, why the sheriff is so critical, ladies and gentlemen. That’s why we believe the county Sheriff America’s last hope. That book highlights the reality of what we think. If you have an honest sheriff that will stand up for God given an unalienable rights, stand up for the Constitution, the checks and balance, the separation of powers, jurisdictional reality, then every time citizens live free, citizens are protected. Protect and defend community policing. That’s what we’re all about. And that’s why this organization is so important. And that’s why we’re so grateful for you as members to help partner with us not only financially, but to get out the message to tell the truth, to be vanguards of truth, to build bridges with sheriffs, to.
To focus on community pleasing. There’s so much here in those. So those are just my two favorite examples. Sheriff. There’s more of the two. Yeah. And you know, I was actually going to Do Sheriff Brad Rogers. That’s an incredible one. And then I, Sheriff Bob Songer too, we’ll talk. We can talk about both of those. Go ahead. Sheriff Brad Rogers is huge. And twice the sheriffs who don’t really even like us anymore from Utah have twice stood up unitedly and one time even unanimously during the Biden administration, all the sheriffs in Utah signed a letter. So it has 29 signatures, all from sheriffs.
And even the most liberal one in the state of Utah, one of the most liberal in the country, the female, no female in Salt Lake County. The female sheriff there said that she wanted solidarity and that she would sign with the other sheriffs and she did. To warn the president of the United States that there would be no more gun confiscation from law abiding citizens in all 29 counties of the state of Utah. Let’s go. Yeah. And so, Sam, and it even says, we will not tolerate talking to Congress and the president of the United States, talking that to Biden and telling that to Biden and saying, we’re not going to allow you to do it, so don’t come and try.
And it worked. The federal government never came and tried. And the same Democrats, now that the Democrats have taken power once again, ladies and gentlemen, they’ll try it again. This will become the top issue in the country. They will come for your guns. And this is where we need to rally the sheriffs and rally the American people to say, not happening. You know what? No cigar. Yeah. So it worked twice because the these same sheriffs, but they didn’t get the Salt Lake county sheriff. It was a different sheriff in Salt Lake county at the time. Salt Lake county was the only one that didn’t support them.
And so they had 28 names on it at that time. And this was under Obama. And they gave pretty much the same letter. Don’t come here. But at that time, about 550 sheriffs nationwide joined in. And one of them was from Oregon and I don’t even remember his name. Sam, we’ll have to look this one up. He was from, I believe it was Lee County. I always want to say Sheriff Lee, but it was Lee county. And it was. Oh, man. He was a nice looking man, humble, very good, well spoken. And his wife was really concerned that he was going to get arrested or something.
But this man stood and he was the first one that went public all by himself about this movement because it actually happened. This happened before the letter from Utah sheriffs did. And so the sheriff and I spoke and I Said, hey, we’re here to help you in any way. And he said, yes, that’s why I called you. Thank you so much. And blah, blah, blah. And he really supported cspa and I think he became a member. But again, we don’t ask sheriffs to become members. We ask the American people to become members. I think it was Sheriff Tim Miller.
Is that right? Tim Miller? I think so. It might have been. It’s Mueller. That sounds like. That sounds. U E L L E R Tim Mueller. Mueller, yeah, Mueller. It was Lynn County. Yes, you’re right. Yes. By the way, it was 2013. He publicly sent Vice President Joe Biden at the time a letter saying that he and his deputies would refuse to enforce federal gun restrictions they considered unconstitutional. And there you go. Excellent work there. Oh, yeah, you gotta. You gotta give Chat GPT some credit. Yeah, well, I’m glad you told you. It’s about feeding it the right information, though.
And hey, history is recorded on the Internet. And there you go. But Tim Mueller doing a phenomenal job. And again, this is an example where good people standing together. The power of one then becomes the power of two, and then the few and then the many. And that’s the hope we need to bring into. Yeah, we lost big last night in many ways. But if you bring the hope into the county sheriff, America’s last hope, and you bring the hope into what we the people can do, if we get together in the sheriff’s posse, standing tall for the sacred cause of liberty, working with sheriffs who will interpose on behalf of the American citizenry, that we realize due process of law is vital, that we realize protecting our rights is critical, that we realize the oath of office is valuable.
This is where we need to partner with you, my fellow members and me, and say, look, I’m not in law enforcement. I’m just a member like you guys are. I just happen to be, you know, involved a little bit more. But everybody can be involved. Everybody can help with the funding, everybody can help with the research and share with their sheriffs and make a difference. And, you know, we can all stand tall. This is a landmark case. It should be a lighthouse case. These examples that we’re highlighting, this is what I mean by the movie. I mean, you could put Tim Miller in there, you could put, you know, Sheriff Bob Songer in there who writes the manual for posses across the country.
Think about it as the organized Melissa Militia, the sheriff’s posse standing tall with leadership from a duly elected Cleo chief law enforcement officer. This is what we’re building, folks, and we’re grateful for your involvement. It is time for us now, though, to really put the pedal to the metal and expand. Sheriff this is an opportunity of a lifetime. Yeah. And it’s, it’s been an amazing ride and we’ve both been on this together and, and, and we, we don’t even have time to do the Sheriff Brad Rogers 1 that’s why we have to make a movie. But that’s right.
And we do. And we really do. And defending the Amish. And right now, I fear because of the Democrat takeover of the federal government and many governorships across the country. It was reported last night, SAM and again this morning, over 50 DSA candidates won office last night, 50 Democrat Socialists of America. What? And, and the rest of it, by the way, in my opinion there should be lawsuits against those people who swear no to the supreme law of the land. Oh, everything they adhere to undermines that. That is a, a big question that we really need to drill into too.
What can be done about that? You know, socialism and communism are not just political alternatives for the United States of America, folks. They’re contrary to the Constitution, they’re contrary to the oath of office. And so these God ordained is the truth. Yeah, yeah. So they’re subverting. They’re actually committing treason against our Constitution and the foundation of America. And you’re absolutely correct, SAM. We need to take action and stand against this. No going along. I was going to kid to you and say, well, I guess I’m going to be joining the Democrat party again because I was a Democrat once but my views have never changed.
SAM and so they’re kind of like you. That’s right. I don’t care about the parties. I don’t care what they believe they are. They were merely a tool and I don’t even want them to exist, as you well know. They shouldn’t exist. But I was going to say, oh, I guess we better join them. You know, if you can’t beat them, we better stand tall with our, the party’s over message. And we need to basically stand on the principles that sheriffs, in my opinion, when they stand with those principles and they create liberty, religious liberty, second Amendment liberty, self defense liberty, they create liberties and that’s what this, you know, I don’t even know what we would call this movie, but it highlights the example of, you know, sheriffs are just one person, but when they stand up it changes.
The whole atmosphere is the best or environment, if you will, in that county. What we couldn’t do, Cleo, Go ahead. We can’t call it Walking Tall because there’s already a couple of movies named that, but so maybe Standing Tall or. Or just Sheriff Mac and play the song. Is he really 10ft tall, the sheriff? Yeah, that’s kind of the question. He becomes 10ft tall when he’s backed by we the People, by the way. Not because he as an individual is that important, but the office, the chief law enforcement office. Cleo is that tall, ladies and gentlemen, because liberty becomes the result when they obey the supreme law of the land on a general level, and then right on down to the state constitutions on the state level, and then right on down to becoming the.
Hey. They answer to the people that elected him. It’s the most local, the most direct, the most clear executive branch of government you can find. We want you to become a member of the posse, if you’re not already. It’s spread the word. We need to grow and we need to do it now. Cspoa.org and support Revelation Gold Group, too. Would you, please? All right. Thanks so much for Sheriff Richard Mack and Sam Bushman and all of you. God bless you and God save our constitutional republic. Remember the sheriff. The county sheriff is America’s last hope.
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