THE REAL STORY BEHIND 9-11 DR JIM FETZER

➡ Dave Hodges, host of the Common Sense show, discusses various topics including the oppression of American people, the importance of understanding the truth behind 9/11, and the need for preparation in case of attacks on water supply and the grid. He also interviews Dr. Jim Fetzer, an investigative journalist, who suggests that the 9/11 attacks were a pretext for America to enter the Middle East and that the official narrative of the event is a fabrication. Fetzer also discusses the impossibility of the World Trade Center towers collapsing due to fire, based on their design and safety factors.
➡ The text discusses the controversial theories surrounding the collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7 during the 9/11 attacks. It suggests that the buildings were designed to withstand such events and that their collapse was not due to fires, but possibly due to other factors such as nuclear devices or explosives. The text also questions the official reports and investigations, hinting at a potential cover-up. It further discusses the health effects on first responders and residents, comparing them to those seen after nuclear events like Chernobyl.
➡ A man named Dave, who witnessed a plane flying towards the Pentagon and then swerving over it, was found dead in an abandoned building. The plane was supposedly piloted by Hannah Jor, who couldn’t even handle a simple aircraft, let alone a commercial airliner. The article also discusses the theory of a holographic projection of a plane hitting the South Tower on 9/11, and the impossibility of a passport surviving the destruction of the Twin Towers. The author suggests that these events were staged and blames Israel for them.
➡ A ship was sent from Africa to Egypt to monitor the Six Day War, with a plan for it to be attacked and sunk by Israelis, but blamed on Egypt. The plan was for the U.S. to use this as a reason to enter the war, possibly even using nuclear weapons. However, the ship didn’t sink, causing frustration. The text also discusses various conspiracy theories around 9/11, suggesting that Dick Cheney was involved in directing the attack on the Pentagon. The author also mentions various appearances on TV shows where he felt he was attacked for his views.
➡ The text discusses a theory that the U.S. was manipulated into invading several countries, including Iraq and Afghanistan, following the 9/11 attacks. It suggests that these invasions were part of a plan to overthrow the governments of seven countries, none of which posed a threat to the U.S. The text also criticizes the influence of Israel on U.S. politics and accuses it of planning false flag operations. Lastly, it expresses concern about the potential for a crisis that could disrupt upcoming elections.
➡ Stone’s sequel was a big flop. Online, there are many presentations about various controversial events, including JFK and 911. The government has been accused of lying and deceiving us. There’s a request for financial support for legal issues, and an upcoming discussion about Kennedy in November is mentioned.

Hello America. Dave Hodges here, host of the Common Sense show. We are the show that is freeing America one enslaved mind at a time. We serve God, family, country in that order. And once in a while we take up causes for the oppressed. Right now, the American people are oppressed. Different story, different time. Got a great show for you today. We’re going to have Jim Fetzer on to talk about 9 11. Quarter of a century later, we still don’t have the truth. I’m going to tell you why it’s important that you understand this. It’s like the Kennedy assassination.

911 history repeats itself. And I feel we’re entering into the false flag zone right now in modern day America because Trump is resisting putting ground troops in Iran and I think Israel will do anything to cause that to happen. They have shown how far they will already go. Anyway, with regard to your preparation, the UFO congressman as I call him, Tim Burchett, just came out a few days ago and said you better store up extra food and water, particularly water, have some portable power that you can. What? Well, that’s talking. They’re going to attack the water supply and the grid.

And my friend Doug Thornton, former DHS supervisor, has been saying this now for three years. It’s coming, folks. I really do believe it. Prepare. Well, our guest, Dr. Jim Fetzer is no secret to anybody expert on many topics because he’s a supreme investigative journalist who hosts conferences, goes to conferences. He doesn’t need much introduction. And I want to launch right into the topic because I think it’s important we understand 9 11, as I said, because of the application today and the 3,000Americans that died deserve justice. Jim, welcome to the show. Really good to have you back on.

Oh Dave, my great pleasure. I can’t think of a more significant subject for us to be addressing the 9 11. Absolutely. Well, you know, I’m really familiar with your work on the Kennedy assassination and I was very good friends with the late Jim Mars and you guys had so much in common with the things you said. Great research, but no less than with 9 11. I just think it’s a topic we need to get into. Where do we want to start with this? So the public can say I see why it’s important 25 years later. Well, basically, Dave, everything the government has told us about 9 11, save for the World Trade center having been destroyed, but they even got it wrong as to how that happened has been a fabrication.

It’s been a fantasy. It’s been a tall tale. 9 11, Dave, was a made for TV movie. And the proof is that when you take a closer look, you find violations of the laws of physics, violations of the laws of aerodynamics. You find alleged causes with no corresponding effects. I mean, it’s really astonishing. Where my background is a philosopher of science, a lot of my publications have dealt with scientific explanation. The laws of science which cannot be violated and cannot be changed, provided me with almost a perfect background for analyzing what really happened on 9 11.

Then David has proven to be one of my virtues that I know what I don’t know and bring together groups of experts who are in areas. I’m not an expert. It turns out by doing this form of collaborative research, which oddly enough had never been done with conspiracy theory before. But for me was a natural transition from academic context where I’d held many conferences, edited many books, special issues at journal. To me, it was a natural and obvious thing to do. And it’s had a tremendous payoff because the more experts you have, the less likely you are to make a mistake.

I think you’re absolutely right. And I think, as I said in the beginning, the overriding purpose today is for people to fully understand. So is the song the who said We Don’t Get Fooled Again? Yes. Yeah. Absolutely right. Let me just mention right off the bat, this was an Israeli op. The whole thing was designed to create a pretext for America to enter the Middle east with its armed forces and to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance Israel’s domination of the entire region and eventually to confront the Persian state of Iran.

So that many today look on this present war as simply completing the agenda of 9 11. Dave. And I think that’s exactly ripe. Yeah. Well, what did they say? We’re going the Carlisle group. We want to take over seven nations in the next few years. And that was during the Bush administration. So it’s. It’s unmistakable. Yeah. I want to ask you a question about that group, though, and some government officials. One person in particular I went to same university as she did, and her name is Condoleezza Rice. And I know you know the name and. And I always thought she was an honorable person.

Why do you think someone who I knew a little bit about her background and her personally, why would she engage in such deception? Well, you know, the Zionist influences. A man’s name. She’s wound up being what, provost at Stanford? It was. She warned the head of the Democratic Party not to apply on 9 11. He was incautious about it, admitted he’d been warned it was Condoleezza Weiss who warned. And what that means is of course, she was on the inside. In fact, Laurent Garnier has published a recent piece that is utterly fascinating, suggesting that on 911 there were actually two attacks, that the World Trade center was the Israeli op and we had hundreds of Israeli assets there in the buildings known as the Gelatin Group, who are preparing the buildings in various ways, including the cookie cutter cutouts that created the impression that planes had actually hit a building when a real plane would have crumbled external to the building.

You’re talking about an aluminum aircraft. It’s like an empty beer can hitting a massive 500,000 ton steel and concrete building. It would have crumbled external to the building. Parts, bodies, seats, luggage, wings, tail, fall into the ground. We got photographs and videos of the facade beneath the north and the South Tower and there are no bodies, no seats, no luggage, no plane parts, no tail, no wings. They faked the planes in New York City. The original plan, Dave, I’m convinced, was to use remote controlled drones. It turns out Dov Zeim, who’s a controller of the Pentagon at the time, the missing 2.3 trillion went into somebody else’s pocket.

And you can guess who went straight to Israel, I have no doubt where Donald Ramsel the day before announced this vast sum of missing money. That’s a very odd thing for an experienced politician to do because the story will grow legs, you know, get bigger during the week, as Zoe anticipated, something would happen the following day to wipe it all from consciousness and he’d be able to waltz into halls of Congress and ask for hundreds of billions more in defense spending. Which is exactly how it played out. Yes, I think the original plan was Zeim, who has a remote control company, planned to fly drones until they realized it was physically impossible for the planes to enter the building.

And they were counting on that, Dave, to create the false impression that the planes exploding inside the building had caused the buildings to collapse. Well, the buildings don’t actually collapse, but when you’re told hundreds of times about the building collapsing and you see them blowing apart in every direction from the outside, but all the floors are remaining stationary, waiting their term to, in the memorable phrase of Morgan Reynolds, blown to kingdom come. And when it’s all done, there ought to have been, if this had been some kind of collapse, we know what happens with controlled demolitions.

And it happened with Building 7, which didn’t take place until about seven hours after the North Tower had been demolished. We saw all the floors come down the same time, nearly speed of free fall and there was a pile. 12% of the original 47 floors or five and a half floors ought to have been there, but they weren’t. And if you apply that same standard to the Twin Towers, there should have been 13 and a half floors of debris, but they weren’t. They would have destroyed the ground level, meaning it was done in completely other fashion.

There was no collapse. In fact, the design of the buildings, Dave, didn’t allow those buildings to collapse. John Skilling has said there was like a 200% safety factor built in, meaning every floor of those buildings could cover double or more what it was expected to carry, its live load. They won all kinds of awards for design. It was a tube within a tube design to create all this open space for business to be conducted. It was sensational. They were well done. It was in my opinion impossible, physically impossible for them to collapse. And in fact, Dave, if you look into the matter, no steel structure, high rise has ever collapsed from fire.

None. And many, many of them have had massive fires that went on for days, went on for days and they didn’t collapse. Which is a further reason why the punk excused that the Building 7 came down because of very modest fires. Completely ridiculous. In fact, Building 7 was erected over two enormous electrical generators to provide backup electricity for New York City. It was designed to never collapse, Dave, which is why they had so much trouble bringing it down. Barry Jennings from New York Emergency Management went there where Rudy Giuliani had two floors of an emergency commanding control with its own air and water supply.

He found half eaten sandwiches, still steaming cups of coffee. A fireman came along, said we got to get you out of there. Explosions were going off while he was there. A stairwell collapsed under him. He felt himself stepping over dead bodies. He couldn’t see him because it was pitch black. But when he got out, he gave interviews to local New York television. So we got a record of what Barry Jennings had to say about it. And get this, when the 911 report was finally completed, and by the way, the executive director, Philip Zelikow is the guy, I suspect who wrote the script.

He had as his area specialization in the Academy before he entered government. The creation and maintenance of public myths. M Y T H S Dave, Philip Zelikow is an expert in the creation and maintenance of public myths. That’s what we got on 9 11. Who better to be put in charge of the 911 Commission? When Henry Kissinger declined the honor because he didn’t want all his financial entanglements to be exposed than Philip Zelikow but the principal Objection to the 911 Report Initiative was it didn’t say a word about Building 7. So they had to do a whole separate report.

And would you believe two days before they were to release a report about Building 7 claiming had been these modest fired, Barry Jennings died mysteriously. He was a witness who could have contradicted the report. Which was just one more pile of happy horseshit Dave’s had to say, which is all we’ve been getting from our government right here in the usa. No, I totally agree. Got a couple of questions. One. Well, first observation. My dad took me at downtown Denver when I was a kid to watch the demolition of the May DNF building. And it was a high rise and I watched it collapse pancake style and it settled in its own footprints.

Well that’s what I see with the Twin Towers. No, well no, that’s what you see with willing servant Dave. Oh yeah, here’s the deal. The Twin Towers were actually done with mini nukes in a sub basement. They destroyed the inner tube from the ground up and then had the destructive force of blowing the buildings apart in every direction from the top down. That required a massive source of energy. There was no collapse. The buildings were converted into very fine dust, millions of cubic yards of very fine dust. Which by the way is one of the signatures of the use of nuclear devices.

The U.S. geological Survey did a study of dust samples from 31 locations, actually 35 locations in lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event. Lithium, lanthanum, tritium, I mean some of these only exist in radioactive forms, Dave. Plus we have the epidemiological, the pattern of cancers, multiple myeloma, leukemia, esophageal, pancreatic cancer, parallel in that of Chernobyl. So that what you have is like at this point in time, over 70,000 first responders and local residents suffered these medical abnormalities or predictable outcomes of the use of nuclear devices.

Just as they had a similar pattern out of Chernobyl when they had the reactor meltdown there. Yeah, and here’s something else that’s fascinating. At Chernobyl they brought in tons and tons of dirt to absorb the radioactivity. Well, many people are aware that Rudy Giuliani had 115 dump trucks lined up the following day. I’ll tell you, New York City, I’ll bet to get one dump truck would take you a month. Rudy already had 115 lined up and as Judy Wood astutely observed, they were bringing in tons of dirt. The debris pile was actually initially growing inside because they were running in this massive amount of dirt.

And then they proceeded to haul away all the remaining parts of the World Trade center against the objections of the firemen who wanted a thorough investigation. But Rudy just went for it for this. We hail him as being America’s mayor, but he deceived us. He was a participant in 9 11. Dave, sad to say. Yeah, you know, it’s really, I’m going to tell you, it’s interesting though, when we looked at Lahaina where directed energy weapons were used, they hauled away the topsoil in great volume and actually sent most of it to the mainland. Here it sounds like they just dumped over it.

So you wouldn’t it still be possible to do some soil analysis? Well, you know, they carried out most of this. A lot of it was off to fresh kills. Judy, of course, has advocated directed energy, but when you compare the effects of Lahaina, Pacific Palisades, Paradise, California, they’re completely different. David not only that, but the design of the Twin Towers meant they were Faraday cages, which would have resisted the use of electronic devices. So Judy’s wrong about her methodology, but that doesn’t mean she hasn’t made a lot of wonderful findings. Where for example, her book where did the Towers Go? Is a splendid compendium of photographs and studies, all kinds of research of enormous value about 9 11.

So while I, you know, I initially was very open to Judy because when I when I founded Scholars for 911 Truth in December 2005 and brought hundreds of experts from around the world where by the end of 2006 we had 6 to 800 in four different categories, my co chair, Steve Jones, was still advocating nanothermite as a mechanism by which the buildings had been destroyed. Well, Mark, Mark Hightower and I would he’s a chemical engineer, would eventually in 2011 publish three articles about how nanothermite can’t possibly have been responsible. It only has the explosive force 113 that at TNT.

One of the advocates, Niels Harrod, professor emeritus of chemistry from the University of Copenhagen, estimated to destroy a twin tower using nanothermite would require 29,000 metric tons of nanothermite. I mean if you want an absurd theory, but here’s the bottom line. In order for an explosive to destroy concrete, it has to have a detonation velocity of 3,100 meters per second in order to destroy steel 6,200 meters per second. But the highest detonation velocity attributed to nanothermite is only 895 meters. Per second mean you can’t get there from there. I got that, yeah, that I’ve heard the same thing.

One of the things that I’ve seen in the past and I’m really kind of confused about is the notion there was pop outs on each floor to help the collapse. Is there any truth in that? Well, you do have what seem to be these squibs popping out when you look at the video. How that would have happened is not obvious. So that’s open question. And when we can explain most of what happened in all the primary elements, that doesn’t mean we don’t have some danglers that are interesting enough to continue to pursue. What I’d like to emphasize with you at this point is that the four crashes were all fabricated or fake, albeit in different ways.

Two of the planes weren’t actually in the air that day. Edward Hendry was quite on top of this and captured the Bureau of Transportation Statistics records for takeoffs and landings on 911 and for Flight 11. There was no record for any takeoff or landing. Flight 11 wasn’t even the air. That’s of course a plane that’s supposed to have hit the north tower. Similarly for 77 the plane that’s alleged to have hit the Pentagon, no record, no Bureau of Transportation, no, no gate, no wheels up, no landing, blah blah blah. And of course, well, no landing because they’re supposed to crash.

Right. But what I’m saying is those planes weren’t even in the air. And get this, pilots for 911 Truth on the basis of air ground communication and radar data were able to establish that Flight 93 was still in the air after it allegedly crashed in Shanksville. It was over champagne Urbana, Illinois and Flight 175 was also still in the air over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So that I went about getting FAA registration records because when a plane’s taken out of service it is deregistered and discovered that the physical aircraft used for those flights and remember the same plane one day could be used for Tampa to Chicago, the next day New York to San Francisco.

The physical aircraft used for 93 and 175 were not even formally taken out of service until 28 September 2005. So how complaints that weren’t in the air have crashed on 911 and how can planes that crashed on 911 have still been in the air four years later? This is when we talk about the so called no planes theory. It’s not. We don’t see what appear to be aircraft and there was a Real plane that was allowed to fly toward the Pentagon and then swerve over it right at the time it was hit with a missile fired from a Global Hawk.

We even have a video of the missile head. I have a friend from JFK Research, Roy Schaefer, who had a trucker body. Dave. Dave hall, who was. Who was in front of the Pentagon, and he watched a plane fly toward it and swerve over it. And Roy told me he was just puzzled because Dave still seemed to think a plane had hit the Pentagon even though he saw the plane fly over it. I said, well, Roy, look, we got to get him on the air. Get him on with me. He’ll be safer if he gets his story out.

He went back and checked with Dave. He was reluctant to do it. And I said, look, look, look, Roy, this is really important. And when Roy checked again, Dave was found dead in an abandoned building. He was a witness who saw too much. But I’ve actually had the role of getting important witnesses on the air because once their stories out there, there’s no point in taking them out. So I wanted to protect Dave. He was a really important witness. But let me just say about that Pentagon flight. It’s supposed to have executed a maneuver that provisional pilots say they would have had an impossible time doing.

Hannah Jor, supposed to be the pilot, couldn’t even handle a Cessna, which is a real simple little aircraft compared to a complicated commercial airliner. It’s supposed to have come in skimming the ground at over 400 miles an hour. Dave. Well, it turns out, as aeronautical engineers have explained to me, that plane, which is a Boeing 757 at that speed, over 400 miles an hour, couldn’t get closer than 60 or even 80ft to the ground, which is higher than the Pentagon, is tall at 71 because of an effect known as downdraft or ground effect. It’s impossible. So this is one of the illustrations then.

At Shanksville, you got the alleged crash. Well, two of the reporters on the scene said the eerie aspect of the crash site was there was no evidence any plane had crashed there. So you look at crashes all over the world. There’s a huge mountain of debris. The explanation for there being no sign of any plane crash there is because no plane crashed there. I mean, it’s real simple when you stop and think about it. Dave, New York now is really the fascinating case. Richard D. Hall of the UK published his Flight 175 3D radar study. He was fascinated with what happened in New York, and he did A plot.

There are like 52 videos, Dave, of Flight 175 approaching the South Tower. Flight about 27 or 28 of which are sufficiently precise that you can create plots of the plane or image thereof approaching the building and time sequence. And he found that NIST had a similar series of plots that they claim was based on radar. But he looked at the radar and it didn’t look right to him. Well, he continued his search and he discovered there was military radar for a plane approaching the south tower. But Dave, it was 1200ft to the side. The plane captured on the radar was 1200ft to the side.

So it would have flown by the south tower. But what he inferred, and this is exactly right, it was projecting the image, the holographic image of an airplane 1200ft to its side. So the image was what was flown into the building. That’s why the plane is flying at an impossible speed for a 767 at that altitude. It wasn’t a real plane. It was the image of a plane projected from a much smaller plane. And then it just melts into the building. Well, that’s preposterous. As I’ve been already explaining, it had been a real plane, it would have crumbled external to the building.

And they even had a hand eye coordination problem. Dave, I don’t know if you remember, the nose pops out on the other side of the building and they fade to black. So here you have the networks covering the most historic event absent the assassination of JFK in American history. And they fade to black. Why? Because they didn’t want you to see the nose pop out. But it was too late. We’ve already got it. It’s in my presentations about it. That’s another impossibility. The nose of a commercial carrier is loaded with electronics. It’s very fragile. It’s physically impossible to be a pop out on the other side of an intact nose from a plane hitting a building.

So it’s really holographic projection. But this is. A lot of people just think because they saw the planes that they think that they had to be real. But it just ain’t the case. We see Superman flying, we see Spider man doing his thing, we see Batman performing all kinds of heroic style. None of that’s real, but we see it. So here we have a case where scene is not believing. Yeah, you know, there’s another issue that I wanted to ask you about. Where they found, I think the name was Mohamed Atta. Found a passport in the debris field.

I, I just shook my head at this and I go, how stupid do they think we are? Can you comment on that? Sure, of course. Yeah. It is absurd. We have other of these staged false flag attacks, which means that the attacks are being blamed on a party other than the party that was responsible. The. The phrase originated from pirate times where the pirates would fly the flag of a friendly nation to the target vessel and only when they got close, bring down the false flag and run up the skull and bones as they attempted to capture and scuttle the target ship.

So that’s where the phrase false flight comes from. This is an Israeli hop. They. They do not believe the American people are very sophisticated, so they felt they had to give obvious clues as to who was responsible, such as a passport that couldn’t possibly have survived the events that it allegedly had transcended. Even those phone calls, those cell phone calls appear to have been from a previous staged event and then used on 9 11. I mean, they’re all ridiculous, all kinds of subtle clues. AK Dudney, who was a professor of computer science from Western Ontario University in Canada, flew with three different types of cell phones on commercial flights and discovered at speeds over 200 miles an hour, altitudes about 2,000ft, the relay towers can’t keep the phone going, so it’s impossible to make the call save.

So those were all fake. You put them together though, and you get this Hollywood style event that. That seems to me convincing. And they just, you know, they just believe that. That we’re so dumbed down that they could even pass off a passport that’s made out of cloth from. From a destruction that’s supposed to have taken out a 500,000ton steel and concrete building is just absurd. But listen, this is a pattern for the Israelis. They blame their enemies. When Sirhan, when Bobby Kennedy was taken out, I now believe it was Tom Mankovitz, one of his most trusted aide.

Bobby was supposed to walk out of the front through the. The grand hall of the Ambassador Hotel. Tom Mankovich diverted him to the pantry where he would be assassinated. Sirhan, who happened to be a Palestinian, was there in front of him and was triggered off. He’d been hypnotized, probably by the girl in the polka dot dress. He fired multiple times toward Bobby, but he never hit Bobby. Bobby was shot from an inch and a half behind his right ear. And then as he fell, he was shot multiple additional time, two in his body, went through his coat, apparently by the guard saying beside him, Thane Eugene Caesar.

So, you know, we have a psychiatrist who Boasted about having hypnotized Sirhan for the CIA. And I guarantee you that was basically a Mossad hit they were worried about. Bobby wanted to reopen Jack’s case. Jack had been opposed to Israel, you know, developing nuclear weapons. Which is a reason why Ben Gurion appears to have resigned in disgust and told the Mossad to participate in the assassination. But they were only one of eight shooters, Dave. And JFK and D Elite Plaza. Each of the sponsors had their own shooter. And the sponsors include the CIA, the Joint Chiefs, the Mafia, the anti Castro Cubans, the Texas oilman, Israel, the Fed and Lyndon Johnson, where he was the brains behind it all in order to accede to the presidency.

He was the brains behind it all. You know, what you’re saying makes sense and I’ll tell you why. I saw a quote a couple of times and recently, just last week, lbj, when John Kennedy was killed, said Israel lost a good ally in jfk, but they got a better one with me. Yeah, well, Israel didn’t regard JFK as an ally. No, but I’m just saying what Ed. Lyndon Johnson said. I’m better for Israel than jfk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, undoubtedly was even participate, you know, in the the USS Liberty. I mean he had that ship come all the way from the coast of Africa down to the off of the coast of Egypt to monitor what would turn out to be the six Day War.

The idea was for the Israelis to attack and sink the ship. But it to be blamed on Egypt. Another classic false flag, right? Israeli pilots knew, they said it was flying an American flag. They’re told to attack anyway. But the idea was to sink the Liberty and Linden would use it to enter the war. Maybe even nuke Cairo. Well, Moshe Dayan was such a brilliant general, he didn’t need any outside help. But it was all the way with Lynn. And when they had trouble sinking it, he was frustrated. LBJ was upset that the Liberty didn’t go to the bottom of the sea.

Dave, that’s another way in which this man proved to be a great traitor to the US and of course Jack was threatening to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces. Going to pull our troops out of Vietnam by the end of 1964. He’d already signed an executive order to do that. They redrafted it and had it prepared for Lyndon’s signature before Jack was even whack. Dave, it was that bad. That bad. I’ve looked at all that information. It’s absolutely correct. Yeah, Kennedy was pulling out the combat advisors, was cutting off Everything but military aid to South Vietnam.

You’re absolutely right. One of the questions I want to ask you about 9 11. I’ve had somebody who says they knew somebody and the somebody I know is pretty credible. They said that they knew somebody that was with Dick Cheney in a command bunker and he was helping to direct the attack on the Pentagon. Do you know anything about that? 100%. Listen, when Alex Jones had his American Scholars Conference in Los Angeles In June of 2006, he invited me to be the keynote speaker. And when C SPAN did the panel discussion the following day on Sunday, which ran an hour and 45, all four members of panel were from scholars.

Steve Jones, who might made my co chair Physicist Bob Bauman, who’d been a ace in the Korean War. He shot down 101 MIGs. But he was there because he had been the scientific director. He had a PhD in nuclear engineering from Caltech for Reagan and Ford Webster Tarpley, who published a rather brilliant book, except that it’s a concealment. It’s saying 911 synthetic tear made in the USA. He omits the Israeli element. And I’m convinced that was all purposeful. And then me as a founder of Scholars where I gave my top 10 reasons that we know the hijackers are fake.

Okay, top 10 reasons. You can still find that because C SPAN would broadcast it seven or eight times. Good time slots. Now the question you had was exactly about. Remind me, Dave, the question. Oh, about Dick Cheney being in the command. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here’s the deal. So the night before the conference, Hannity and Combs invited me to come on. And when I was told that Ollie north was going to be sitting in for Sean Hannity, I called my wife and said, honey, look, this is just going to be a casual conversation between former Marine Corps officers.

And she said, don’t kid yourself. They’re going to try to kill you. So I’m in the waiting room. I had him bring in a tv. And when I. When Combs began talking about, you’re not going to believe what your students are being taught by their professors, I knew I’d been played. Their producer had said they wanted to learn what scholars had discovered about 9 11. But really they wanted to use me, you know, as a punching bag for teaching 911 in a course. But they didn’t know enough. They didn’t know enough about my schedule, you know, my teaching.

So I knew they couldn’t pull it off. So when Combs opens by saying, is this a required course in elective I have to explain it’s not a course at all, that I’d organize a research group of professors and scholars, experts around the world to study 9 11, not to teach it. And I went on to explain when Colonel north would intervene and say, didn’t you say that to our producer that you had a course? I said, no, but I said, it’s an excellent idea because there’s so much material. And they now, Combs asked me, he said, now, look, professor, he said, do you have any evidence that anyone such as, say, Dick Cheney was involved in this? And said, yes, I do.

Norman Mineta, Secretary of Transportation, testified to the 911 Commission. They didn’t publish it for the obvious reasons. When you hear this story that he’d been in a bunker underneath the White House with Dick Cheney and that his aide had come up to him and said, sir, it’s 50 miles out. Sir, it’s 40 miles out. That’s what I was told, because the order still stand. And Cheney whipped around and said, of course the order still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary? Well, the order had to be to not shoot down the plane. The obvious thing to do would be to shoot down the plane.

Okay, you lose a plane and the passengers, but you do not lose the person on the property, because this was flying toward the Pentagon. So I laid that on him. And, you know, they didn’t know what to do. They were baffled. They want to get me off the air as soon as possible. Four and a half minutes. My greatest four and a half minutes on television, Dave. They didn’t want to have me back. But then Sean Hannity thought he could do better. Months later, he had me on, but it was no more successful then further in still, in 2006, you know, the very nasty guy had me on, and he was going to pillory me.

So I’m sitting there, O’Reilly, O’Reilly, yeah. With bright lights in my face. It comes on my ear. He says, I’m going to tell a country you’re a nut and you hate your country. And then, boom, he’s on and he’s attacking me again and again, so I never have an opportunity to respond. So I did my best, but I thought I’d been an abject failure. I even said to him at one point, you’re not going to let me explain what we found, are you? And he said, no, I’m not. You don’t deserve it. Well, a year or so later, I was in New York City and gave a talk at the Cooper Great hall of Cooper Union and my wife and a friend of ours were looking around for other things and Alex Jones had an event at a local theater.

So we went over there and I was just astonished. They just rolled out the red carpet for me. Dave. I really didn’t anticipate. They put me up on a platform with first responders and I was sitting down, the guy next to me leans over and said it was seeing you on O’Reilly that convinced me 911 was an inside job. And I thought, well maybe, maybe it been worth the effort. Maybe it’d been worth the effort. Yeah. No, they, they, it’s amazing how they discredit themselves. You know, I heard something, I knew some people that knew Jim Garrison because I was kind of really young to be involved in that at the time.

He goes on the Tonight show and they just totally slammed him and didn’t let him talk. And that actually was a turning point. And I’ve been told this by one of the guys who was my mentor in this business who was CIA. He said that was the time when the CIA decided they had to invent the term conspiracy theory because of that appearance, because the, the attacks backfired and people just said man, they’re covering this up. Well, yeah, we have the CIA document where they talk about how to cope with critics of the Wharton Commission, impugn their motives.

There’s nothing new. Say they’re out for fame or fortune or whatever and introduce a phrase. Now in my opinion, that was Johnny Carson’s darkest moment, ridiculing Jim Garrison, who was a very good man. Yes, Jim was a very serious district attorney for New Orleans. He never brought a case he couldn’t win. He had like a 99% conviction rate and he actually was on the trail of a fringe element of the assassination. It could have led somewhere. In fact, in the aftermath multiple investigations were launched, Dave, including in Texas. They were actually making progress. Selenium had them all shut down.

He created the Warren Commission as a coffer to shut off all the bona fide investigations and give us a whitewash cover up of which the 911 report is a successor. And you know, I mentioned before, but now it may make more sense. Lawrence Garnier, brilliant guy, has published new piece saying that the World Trade center attack was a mosaighed up and I guarantee it was a mosaight up, but that the Pentagon was done by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for the following reason. If you only had the attack on the World Trade center, it’s just a terrorist attack.

It doesn’t justify acts of war. It doesn’t justify invading other countries. So they had to have an attack on the US Military command and control structure to justify all the wars they’d launch initially, you know, in Afghanistan, Iraq, everyone. The generals were all puzzled. Wesley Clark visited the Pentagon not long after 911 and ran into a general he knew who said, you know, we’re. We’re planning to invade Iraq. And they were both puzzled. Why? Why in the world would we invade Iraq? And the general couldn’t answer the question. So Clark said, well, keep me posted. He came back a couple months later and he saw the same general.

He said, are we still planning to invade Iraq? He said, oh, no, sir. It’s much worse. I just got a memorandum from Secretary of Defense from Rumsfeld. And Wesley Clark says, well, is it classified? And the general said, oh, yes, sir. Well, then Clark said, don’t show it to me because I may want to talk about it. And he explained this was a directive to take out the governments of seven countries in the next five years. And eventually, at the Commonwealth Club in California, Wesley Clark would give this story of the plan to take out seven countries in the next five years.

None of them posed any threat to the United States. This was the Israeli hit list. And I think this Gagne thing is really quite a telling observation because there are various aspects of both that are sufficiently different. I think he got it exactly right. You know, before I make this next statement, Jim, I got to give a disclaimer because I’m going to be labeled anti Semitic. My grandmother’s maiden name was Freiburg, and she was a German refugee. So on that note, I’m going to say this. It’s not just the JFK involvement, and I don’t know that they were the principals, but they were involved.

The 911 situation, I’m convinced of. Of course we know about the liberty that’s on the present. That can’t be argued. But I will tell you, after looking at the Charlie Kirk situation for almost a year now, if I were a homicide detective, that’s my number one suspect. And to validate my belief, you had Joe Kent, the head of counterterrorism, and Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence, ordering Cash Patel to surrender information that might be relevant about Israel and the Charlie Kirk assassination. He refused. They go to Trump. Trump refers him to Susie Wiles, who helped run Netanyahu’s 2023 campaign for prime minister.

And she said, you’re not getting anything. And within months, both of them are out of their jobs. And Then you go and have 94% of Congress gets donations from the only unregistered political lobby in the United States, aipac, Israel’s lobbying firm. And then you have the Thomas Massie situation where they pumped $32 million into a primary into a congressional district. And then they tell me, and this is the last thing I’ll add, I’m a Christian, okay? My covenant is with the Lord Jesus Christ, not with Genesis 12:3, with Abraham. That was negated because God sent Jesus to die for our sins because the first covenant failed.

But we’re being told by Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee and all these other wannabes to get Israeli money that I have to be loyal to Israel above everything else. And quite frankly, Jim, I’m sick of it. Oh, yeah, deservedly so. It’s a fraud. Gordon Duff at Intel Drop has just published a wonderful piece about the attempt to steal the identity of the Palestinians, who are the actual genetic descendants of the original Israelites. Whereas the present population of Israel is Kazarian, they don’t have any Hebrew genetics whatsoever. So the whole thing is completely fraudulent. The classification of being a Semite is linguistic, but it has a, you know, ramifications where the Palestinians are actually bona fide Semites, the Israelis are not.

So Israel is actually the greatest practitioner of anti Semitism the world has ever known. Dave, it’s astonishing. Well, I would agree. Yeah, I agree with that. You know, the IDF is tattooing numbers on Palestinian settlers on the West Bank. I don’t know if you knew that or not. That just came out this week. And I just. This Netanyahu regime is just a criminal regime. And there may be the worst in Israel’s history, and there’s been a few. But I. I look at this whole thing, and I’m just saying we’re being colonized. And. And here’s the thing that really bothers me, though, okay? They are, Ted.

Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz say, Israel, they’re God’s chosen people. Okay, that might have been true back in the time of Abraham, but in Romans 8 and Romans 11, it clearly says if you’re a member of the church, you’re God’s chosen people. And that if you’re a Christian, you can’t believe this BS that’s being put out by our politicians to justify this war. Of course. 100%. 100%. Here’s an irony. Bibi’s been out there boasting about how he was able to sucker the United States into attacking Iran on behalf of Israel. With over a thousand hours on American television.

Look at all those joint presentations he made to Congress. How insulting is that? And yet it’s supposed to be an anti Semitic smear to suggest Israel is running our government or our foreign policy. And here you got Bibi boasting about doing exactly that, Dave. It’s very, very revealing. I think the American people have grown wary of Israel. I think they’re disgusted by the genocide. I think the Charlie Kirk event unleashed a mass flood of criticism and now the war on Iran is confirming it. I think the Republicans are going to take a bath in the midterm.

Trump is going to be in a dire, dire strait. He seems to be completely deluded. He wants to go and campaign on behalf of these, you know, candidates in toss up states, but it’s going to have a negative effect. A negative effect. And the first commercially put out where they got 400 million bucks for the midterm. The first commercially. But I was all glorification of Donald Trump. It’s not going to do any of those candidates any good, Dave. It’s going to be a slaughter at the midterm and Trump is only making it worse. Well, Jim, one of the reasons I wanted to have you on about 911 is like I said at the top of the show, there’s a lesson to be learned for the present time because I do believe a false flag is coming that will incite America like we were with Pearl harbor, that, yeah, we need to send troops into Iran because they did this to us and I think it’ll all be Israeli.

Sponsored. That’s my hypothesis and everything. I’m seeing points in this direction and I really believe it’s coming. Now, to your point about the elections, Donald Trump is just clueless or just doesn’t care about the election. And could it be that he knows a crisis is coming to a level there where there won’t be an election? Well, I don’t think he can circumvent the election. I do believe a false flag is highly probable. If they calculate that Donald Trump is worth more to them dead than alive, they will take him out. They’ll blame it on Iran. They’re already trying to drop seeds, you know, suggestions that Iran’s going to perform an assassination cable.

Iran is out to kill Barron. They could stage or fake these things, Dave, but I think your projection, your anticipation is well founded. This is part and parcel of the Israeli playbook. They do it all the time. Remember motto Mossad, wage war by deception. They’re very, very good at exactly that. Exactly. Yeah. And they’ve got decades of practice with this. But I look at the whole totality of what we’re talking about, we’ve lost our sovereignty. I just did a piece this morning, I interviewed Joshua Phillips and I put it up on YouTube and Joshua was talking about all the institutions that China has basically circumvented and taken over.

It’s just. It’s like we have politicians for sale and that’s how this happens. And the reason Israel is able to do what they do and interfere in our politics is because they buy the politicians. It’s that simple. Oh, yeah, yeah. They’re masters at infiltration at multiple levels. And of our media, they’ve actually bought TikTok, they bought CBS. You know, you can hardly go to an outlet that isn’t controlled by Zionists today. That’s why the alternative media, including shows like yours and mine, Dave, are becoming increasingly important to the American people because they’re not getting the truth or even a close facsimile from the major networks or sources that in the past have been reliable are no longer.

I couldn’t agree with you more, Jim. We’re near the end here, but I wanted to give people an opportunity to follow your good work. How do they do that? Well, let me say, if they want to follow up about 9 11. For example, I did a Boston 911 Truth presentation about a year ago. You can find that on my Bitchute channel. Just put in Jim Fetzer, Boston 9 11. If you want an overview about JFK, I did a special back on the 18th of November 2021, just prior to Oliver Stone releasing his sequel, which proved to be a cinematic disaster of no consequence whatsoever.

A JFK special. If you get onto, you know, online, I have a ton of, you know, presentations about 911 JFK, if you can find them. A great place to go too is my how to Spot a false flag, part one, how to spot a false flag, part two, where I go through a dozen or 15 of these different false flags. You’re going to be blown away because I got Sandy Hook, Charlottesville, Parkland in there, Las Vegas. You’re going to learn things you couldn’t imagine. The government has been lying and deceiving and cheating us right along. Otherwise, of course, I have my blog at james h.

Fetzer.org babe and I’m engaging some legal issues. So if anyone wanted to toss a few bucks in the Hobber, go to GiveSungo.com funding Fetzer. I’ll be most grateful and appreciative. Yeah, that’s very good, Jim. I sure appreciate your time. I know it’s valuable. And we got to cover a lot of topics in addition to 911 because there’s a central theme to all of it. Thanks so much for joining us. My great pleasure, Dave. I really appreciate it. Going to have you back on in November to talk about Kennedy. Excellent. Thanks.
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