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Summary

➡ Lisa Schermer Horn interviewed astrologer Kelly Hunter on the Grassroots Warrior Network. They discussed the recent Mercury retrograde period, which is believed to bring up unresolved issues and cause chaotic energy. Kelly explained that this period, which started with a solar eclipse and ended with a new moon, was a time for letting go of old issues and starting fresh. She also mentioned that we are now entering the astrological sign of Aries, which symbolizes a fresh start and encourages people to clarify their visions for the future.
➡ This text discusses the idea of using cosmic energies to initiate new and exciting changes in your life. It emphasizes the importance of believing in your dreams and taking charge to manifest them, rather than being a passive observer. The text also explores different forms of astrology and their significance, and suggests that we are entering a time of great change and opportunity, where new technologies and ways of thinking will emerge.
➡ The speaker discusses their belief in communicating with nature and the possibility of human souls reincarnating in animals. They also mention the concept of telepathy and its increasing prevalence. The speaker then delves into astrology, discussing the significance of various planetary alignments and their potential impact on human consciousness and personal growth. They encourage listeners to remain positive and listen to their hearts during these transformative times.
➡ The text discusses the importance of being open-minded and embracing change, particularly in relation to personal growth and spiritual development. It emphasizes the power of surrendering to the process and trusting in the unfolding of life’s events. The text also highlights the significance of letting go of relationships and situations that no longer serve us, and the potential for new opportunities that align with our personal growth. Lastly, it underscores the idea that happiness comes from within, and that we have the power to change our feelings and experiences.
➡ This text is about the importance of finding hope and opportunity in chaotic times. It encourages people to pursue their dreams and goals, comparing it to nurturing a plant. It also emphasizes the need to find calmness within oneself to move forward confidently. The text ends with an appreciation for the speaker’s ability to explain complex concepts simply, and a mention of their astrology sessions.

Transcript

Hi, Lisa Schermer Horn here on the Grassroots Warrior Network. And I am thrilled and excited to introduce you to my dear friend Kelly Hunter, who’s also fellow Vermonter, and she is an amazing astrologer, and she is a depth astrologer and an astro mythologist. And we all know we’re just coming out of Mercury in retrograde, and for people who don’t quite understand what that is, it’s been crazy energy. So I’m excited to talk to you about. We’ve just come out of it. So what we just went through and where we’re headed now. Well, just think of the last month, just the last month, because it started with a solar eclipse on February 17, the beginning of the year of the Fire Horse.

And there were so many other dynamics going on. And now we just had another new moon on, let’s see, yesterday on the 19th. So I’m not sure where, when you’re airing this, but I called it the equinox new moon because it’s so close to the equinox. And so that was the first New Moon since February 17, which seems like ages ago. And of course, we had the whole Mercury retrograde thing, which started at the end of February, like almost the last day of February. And so in the sign of Pisces, which last year at this time, we had a whole lot of Pisces going into Aries, then it went back into Pisces, then it went back into Aries.

So this year we’re having a similar thing with the Mercury retrograde kind of looping back and pulling in anything we sort of left behind or spaced out on or need to deal with. And so it went back as far as tapping into what was going on last fall with the eclipses in September, also with some things going on in August, and then even until last year in the. At the end of March. So Mercury retrograde was just kind of bringing a lot of things back in to kind of tie it in the neat little boas we could do.

But it’s been, you know, just a little crazy making because number one, you know, we. We haven’t been able to take it easy or, you know, count on anything. It’s like, well, now what’s happening? You know. Yeah, because for. For those who aren’t really familiar with Mercury in retrograde, it’s really a bringing up of your old stuff. Right. To. To clear. So it’s like reminding you of what is left behind and. And causing us to look at it. And so is it stuff that is unconscious or does it matter this particular one, since Mercury’s been retrograde toward the end of Pisces and the new moon was at the end of Pisces, and we’re about to go into Aries, which is the first sign of the zodiac.

There was a lot of, you know, kind of things to sweep away, to let flow away, to let go of, to. To feel through. And so there was an extra load if we’d been ignoring that or not dealing with that. And it’s also been not only personal stuff, but collective stuff, which with Pisces, we feel it. We feel the mood, right? We feel all the, you know, the gestalt, you know, that’s going on with a lot of crazy making stuff stuff and uncertainty and denial and head in the sand. And then Pisces is a sign that will often turn to addictive habits just to kind of chill.

And so some of that isn’t working either. Not to mention dream time and sleep time is at a premium. So this has been a particularly challenging one. And yes, so it can, like I just said, said loop back further, or it can just go back over the last three weeks because it gets to a certain point and then it turns retrograde and goes back to where it was three weeks earlier. And then it turns forward like it is right now on Equinox, which is like a fabulous moment. And then it moves forward and covers the same territory again.

But having let go of stuff or clean some stuff or process some stuff, it’s like more of a clean start. And I’ve been thinking about how it’s kind of like the windshield wipers on a car. It’s getting the rain off because we can’t see through the windshield if it’s raining or if it’s dirty or the birds have been dropping on it or the flowering trees have been dropping on it. So we have the windshield wipers on so we can see more clearly, which we need to be able to do as we go into Aries, which is the fresh, clear start.

So, you know, any. Any unconscious stuff. But also, again, it’s. It’s a. It’s bigger than that. It’s. It’s this whole collective moment, you know, that we’re experiencing right now, bringing us into a new era with so many changes of the planets. So I think it was a gift from the goddess that Mercury went retrograde at this point. So we could, like, instead of, you know, the fire horse just galloping off with us, we had a little bit of time to really feel it through and get more ready to go. And now the go sign is happening.

So off with the fire horse. And we’re in. We’re going to be in Aries. So like today we’re in Aries and there’s some other planets that are also have moved since last year into Aries. And like I said, they went back into Pisces and back into Aries this year in January and February. And that includes the planet Neptune, which is about our collective dream, like our collective vision. And that’s one thing we’ve been cleaning up. You know, what is your vision? Get all that doubt and anxiety out of the way and get clear on your vision and what you want to be experiencing and initiating in your life moving forward.

There’s a lot just to kind of get clear on that because sometimes it’s like we don’t feel it’s okay to want anything. Sometimes it’s like the. The world is moving along and it’s like, wait a minute, it’s time now to kind of take some directive charge of your version of that and add it to the collective. So question about that, because let’s say the energies are ripe for that, like the fire horse. And then I’ve been seeing a lot of. It’s interesting how things just start entering your feed all the time on social media and all of a sudden it’s like, oh, they know I’m a Scorpio.

So it’s like I’ve got 20 different astrologers talking about Scorpio all saying the same thing, like, this is going to be a rocket ship time. But you have to. It’s not just going to fall in your lap. Correct. You have to make the choices and set, decide what you want to manifest. It’s just that the energies are ripe for it. Correct. Yes. You can be a. A passive passenger. Yeah. You know, but, you know, when the train derails, you might not be too happy about that or, you know, so this is the opportunity moment. And for so many reasons, you know, but one of the most immediate is that it’s Aries.

It’s equinox, which many people consider the beginning of the year. It is, at least for astrologers, because it’s the beginning of the zodiac in Western astronomy, astrology. So there are many new years we had. I figure that basically December solstice is new year. I don’t like January 1st, like, why that’s so random. But I think the solstice makes sense and so does the equinox. It’s a turning point, you know, that brings us into newness. And then we have the Chinese New Year, which takes place on the first full moon after the sun goes into Aquarius. And it was late this year.

It can be as early as, you know, January 20th, 21st, and we had it on February 17th, so. And I think this is so intriguing. A lot of people have picked up on the fire horse imagery. Right. And the last time we had a fire horse was in 1966, which, you know, we have a horse every 12 years, but not the fire horse. So I think that’s really interesting to be like tapping back to that energy as well, which is not unlike the times we’re in now. Yeah, I have to go back and look at what was going on in the world in 1966.

I was few years old, very young. Yeah. I graduated from high school that year. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I wasn’t ready for it either. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, well that was like, know the Vietnam War and all the, all the protests and just a lot of a social unrest. So much, so much in the early 60s saw the death of Kennedy and Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy and you know, a lot, a lot going on. So interesting. A lot of tumultuousness in between Iran and everything else and the, the Epstein files coming out now.

And it’s a lot. Yes, yes, it is a lot. And it’s hard to see what’s going on beneath the surface, you know, and, and some people don’t, they just listen to the narrative, which is almost like being a passive passenger on the train. Right. You know, you’re not, you’re not taking the reins of the fire horse, you know, it’s like this is an immense opportunity to initiate something new and exciting in your life. The energies so want this new dream, a fresh start. And then we have Saturn, which is about manifestation. Neptune is about the dream.

And Saturn is like, okay, let’s do it. And those two planets are lining up. So this is what’s happening. And some of it is Saturn saying, your dream is not very substantial. I’m going to bust your bubble. Oh really? In some cases, yes, that will be it. Because illusions are going to be stripped away. So. So Saturn is really pushing you to go to the max, basically to really manifest your heart’s desire. That’s the opportunity. And you’re going to manifest whatever is in your field. So if you can take charge of that and manifest a positive vision that is, you know, that is taking the reins and not being passive.

Being a co creator with the cosmos at this Point, which is the invitation of the quantum field, quantum consciousness, and what I call the Quantum Kuiper Belt, which is a whole new realm of planets out there, starting with Pluto, that’s been reclassified as one of these Kuiper Belt objects. And I don’t like to use the word objects very much because they’re living energies. Right. And there’s so many of them that are about being. Being a creator, because so many of them are being named after indigenous creator gods from all over the world, and including two of Tolkien’s characters from the prehistory of Middle Earth, the archangels that.

That wanted to manifest the vision of God on Earth, you know, so. And that is being renewed. That is being. It’s like the original codes are being reactivated. And so this is a glorious time to take charge and manifest that and believe in your dreams. And that’s the key, is to believe. Because if you watch the news right now, everything looks so doom and gloom. And when we get into quantum, the important thing is you create your own reality. So the energies are there. The universe is saying here. It’s almost like a hand is being brought out to you to lift you up, take the hand, even despite.

And what people don’t realize is that some of the most successful people and businesses have been started during a downturn when. When there’s crashes because people look for opportunity. So you want. There’s always time for opportunity. You don’t have to wait. Yes, yes. It’s kind of like the, the, the science model where there’s an experiment and the input of the person running the experiment has implications on how the experiment will turn out. Yeah. So this is where we can have an influence on. On our experience moving forward. Yeah. And there’s so many possibilities opening up that have never been available, you know.

Yeah. It’s interesting because you talk about the fire horse and, and astrology. How does the Chinese. The new year calendar impact the astrology? Or you just look at them separately? Well, it’s a different form of astrology. It’s Chinese astrology. You know, we have Vedic astrology, we have. We have Mayan astrology, we have classical astrology, Hellenistic astrology, Western astrology, sidereal astrology. You know, there are a lot of astrologies, and they are all valid on their own terms. So, you know, it’s interesting to look at the various ones, but in terms of, you know, getting it together and using it, you know, you make choices as you go along as to, you know, your own path.

So that’s kind of, you know, it’s kind of like, like the medical field, we could say, you know, because you have to choose, you choose specialties. Are you a general? Are you, you know, like, are you using Chinese medicine? Are you an acupuncturist, a homeopathist? You know, there’s so many choices. Any field like this. Wow, I didn’t realize that I, I, I, I, I know of Vedic and I never, I didn’t really think of the Chinese astro calendar as astrology. That’s so interesting. So, yeah, tap into the energies. Yeah, that’s so cool. Yeah, they have the 12 signs with the, with the animals and then they have five elements.

So five times 12 is 60, which is why we get the fire horse only every 60 years. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. Yes. It’s so fascinating. Yeah. I was born in the year of a tiger. I believe that. Lisa. I’m an ox, which I consider quite an oxymoron because I’m a Sagittarius and I move faster than an ox. But I guess there’s something in me that’s stable and has been an astrologer for like, my God, almost six decades. But you’re also strong and you are strong and so stable. I can definitely see you, you don’t have the stature for it.

Stature for it. You’re, you’re very petite, but I can see your energy is that. I’m not petite. Oh, I, I don’t feel like I’m petite. Well, well, I did shrink an inch. I shrunk an inch. But not short. I mean, petite in stature. You’re, you’re slim. Oh, okay. I didn’t used to, I used to be a kind of round tomato girl when I was a teenager. But anyway, you know, so, so there are so many changes going on. Right. And one. So, so over the last two years, Pluto changed sign. Maybe three years by now. Pluto changed sign, which it only does every, you know, 20 years or so generally.

Right. Because its orbit is 248 years around the zodiac. And we did a video, oh my gosh. A while ago about how Pluto had returned to where it was in the United States chart based on the Declaration of Independence. It was like a renewal of our country and the foundations upon which we are built. So another planet is the one I just mentioned, Neptune, that takes 165 years to go around and spend 14 years in a sign. So we’re just coming out of Neptune in Pisces, which started in there in 2011, 2012, and now it’s gone into Aries.

Which is a completely different sign. You know, here we have Pisces going with the flow and Aries is. I’m on it. And then. Oh, I’m sorry, go ahead. There’s one more. The planet Uranus, the revolutionary, the change agent, the awakener. And Uranus takes 84 years to go around the chart, I mean at the zodiac and around the chart and stays in a sign for seven years. And so last year it put a little, it put, it just woke up into Gemini in, starting in, in July for just a couple of months. It said, I’m giving you a heads up people, open minded, be open to new possibilities because you’re not going to believe what’s coming.

And then it went back into Taurus saying okay, settle down a bit, you know, get grounded, you know, get in your bodies because this next thing is going to be wild. So it’s not until, well, just a month to go. April 26 is when Uranus goes back into Gemini. And that’s one of the things the Mercury retrograde was picking up on. It was picking up on that last July, August, September time when Uranus was in Gemini. And now we’re coming back to that and it’s going to bring out more incredibly unexpected and shocking information which you know, if, if you have an ear to the underground into some of the, the streams of discussion on, you know, on more, less generally mainstream media stuff, you might be picking up on some of our lost history, some of the, you know, what’s going on under the surface.

But this is, this is gonna, Gemini is about how we think about things. So one thing we’re gonna be starting to think and think differently and communicate differently. So we’re already looking at AI in relation to this but also in relation to Pluto in Aquarius which is new advanced technologies and the potential to use them in nefarious ways and the potential to use them in empowering ways. And part of our lesson here that we’re just getting into is discerning which is which and that the Uranus is going to even bring more stuff up. New transportation. You know, we already have, you know, flying cars getting tested.

I’ve been waiting for them since I was a teenager. I called them hovercraft. Like where are the hubcraft? I, you know it’s so interesting because I think about we’re still using technology for the most part. The, the gas engine that’s what, 100 years old. And, and our roads haven’t changed either. You’re telling me that they don’t have technology for the roads that, you know, that they last a little bit longer than, you know, six months when they have more potholes and have to be redone. We won’t need cars. We’ll. We’ll be pushing off the ground with some kind of technology, I think.

Like the fast train. Yeah. The magnet. Yeah. Yes, that’s it. That’s it. Yeah. Yeah. So there’s that and, and other such things. And we’re going to start, like, some of us are going to start understanding bird speak. Like, you know, I’ve been talking to the birds. I’ve been whistling back with intention, you know, just to say, hi, I’m glad you’re here, you know, but I, I think that’s gonna, you know, and don’t think I’m crazy. I. I think this can happen. My friend, you know Liz. My friend, Liz Perkins. Oh, I love Liz. Yeah. She communicates with the trees and yes, the animals.

Yes. I think people are getting open more and more. And in. In speaking with Honey, she talks about. Because I. I was always under the impression when animals reincarnated, their souls were all in a. Their own group. Like the dog souls were all in one group. Group soul. My understanding is that some of them are. Are actually now having human souls come into the animals. And so that’s why you can look at some animals in their eyes and you’re like, is that a human in there? Or. Some are dogs. You can tell. So. Yeah, it’s so interesting.

Yeah, well, you know, the ones that are more domesticated in certain ways have got to know humans better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And. And other ways, I was just listening to Ann Taylor, who I love. She channels the angels and the Mother of the Universe kind of thing. And. And they were talking. The channeling today was talking about telepathy and how that’s starting to turn on now. Oh, my gosh. I see constant videos and actually my dear friend Barry, who, you know, is working on that, where they blindfold themselves and then they can tell what color and the children that are coming in have the ability to do this.

So they’re training people now to be able to see without their physical eyes. I saw something about school in. In England where they were doing that and how great to start young because you don’t have any. Any bias against it or ideas that it can’t be happening. So. Yes. So I thought I wanted to bring up a couple of dates in the next couple of months. I already gave one, which is Uranus going into Gemini, so that means Pluto and Neptune and Uranus what we call the three outer planets that are like the signs of the times in terms of what’s changing in human consciousness.

All change sign within a year and a half. So that uranus date is April 26th. And the day before that, Venus goes into Gemini as well. So it’s Venus and Uranus going into Gemini at the same time. And Venus, you think of Gemini that has these, you know, kind of the twins, Right. Sometimes they’re the dark twin and the light twin, but it’s also like, like the poles of a battery. You got to have the negative and positive for the light to go on. Right. And so all of the planets to align the two polarities, Whoops.

Venus is great because Venus is the goddess of attraction. She’s great in Gemini. And she also, therefore, at that point can connect the higher mind with the lower mind. In other words, the higher mind and the heart. So that is a beautiful alignment to join in with Uranus. That is like electricity. So we’ve got the electromagnetics going on at that very point. Sounds like there could be some love matches then. Oh, gosh, yes. We’ve had some really interesting planetary dynamics in the last few months that have been a lot about the joining of the masculine and the, the feminine.

The divine masculine and the divine feminine, both from a Mars and Venus perspective, which is our most personal form of, you know, emotional engagement. But also with two asteroids named Psyche and Eros that have a famous classical love story that’s about divine love and human love joining and becoming one, how love can bring us to, to the divine. And it’s just beautiful. So they’ve been aligned the last month or so and just. Oh, it’s just, just. I love all the stories with the planets and the, the, the ones that are, you know, activated in ways that we can, we can feel and experience.

We’re always living out our own charts. We just don’t realize it. But then, you know, when we realize it and name it something, another level of it kind of lights up, doesn’t it? Absolutely, yeah. Having the awareness of it, it just confirms it, right? It confirms it. So you have more confidence in what you’re doing. Yeah, exactly. So another really especially beautiful moment is in June when Mars and Jupiter come together, the two brightest planets in the sky. And they were together last August and a year later they’re going to be together in June. And this is lovely.

This is like the second week in June, right. You know, leading up to the solstice. So that’s very lovely. And that, that’s like just grace and just the, all the well being of the mother, just pouring forth her gifts and her remembrances and her grace and her, her love. So that’s a beautiful outpouring. And then at the end of that month, at the very end, spends one year in a sign bringing opportunity, bringing amplification of anything it touches gets bigger. And it’s like every 12 years you have Jupiter return to where it was when you were born.

And you don’t repeat a circle, it’s like the arms of the Milky Way, it spirals. So you’re on another level. But of that experience you’re expanding your horizons and your experience and your wisdom because Jupiter is the wisdom planet. So that’s going to be going on. And also in August there are eclipses. There is a total solar eclipse on August 21 at 20 Leo, which is very much like the one we had in 1999. And wait. Yes, and I think we had another one. Eclipses repeat every 18 or 19 years. And so this is going to be, I think there was another one of those in 20.

2017. Yes. So that would be 1999, 18 years later, 2026, here we are. Wow. So that’s, that’s very powerful in terms of leadership, in terms of creativity, in terms of opening hearts. So that’s a glorious moment. And let’s see, there’s always a follow up eclipse too. There are always two eclipses, one of the moon and one of the sun. So that’s going to be the one of the sun and then there’s going to be a partial eclipse of the moon on August 28th. And I used to think partial eclipses weren’t as strong as total eclipses, but then I had a partial eclipse right on my sun sign.

It was a partial eclipse of the full moon on my sun sign. And my life changed so dramatically. Wow. Yes. So are there any particular signs that are going to be impacted more than others or is this really about everyone kind of moving? Well, that’s everyone. But if you’re in the eclipse zone, you know that right now it’s Pisces and Virgo who are in the eclipse zone. But that’s shifting in the summer. So it’s going to be the Leo, Aquarius and we have Jupiter there in the Leo and we have Pluto there in the Aquarius. So in a collective Saturn sense, this is going to be a big transformational time.

Yeah. And I do think that when I said leadership, I do think that that’s going to be more obvious how the, how the Global leadership and the alliance alliances are shifting quite dramatically. I think, you know, it’s so interesting because to hear you speak, you know, if you were to hear the news, it’s a very different message. Right. Because I hear more enthusiasm and excitement and, you know, things changing. But I, I get this like in a good way from you. Right, and versus what you get from the collective. I’m, I’m a Sagittarius. I’m one of those positive minded.

Yeah, let’s be positive minded. Yeah, we can influence the outcome. Yes, we can. We don’t need to buy the narrative that it’s all going to be doom and gloom and hell in the hand basket kind of thing. Let’s not go there. Not on my timeline. I’m telling you that I say that all the time. I always say, not on my timeline. And you know, you can have 10 people look at the exact same thing at the same time and have 10 completely different stories. And that’s also based on your own trauma, your own wounding and how you’re seeing things.

And so, you know, hopefully people have had a chance to look at their stuff through the retrograde. And then so we go full out for the next, well, you know, some big stuff happening over the next several months. What do you, what kind of advice do you have for people to go, you know, to kind of look at for the next couple months while all this is happening? I think it’s a lot about listening to your heart. I was talking to a woman today that has a lot of air signs and she was, she’s so in her head and she knows it and she sees it, but it’s hard to, you know, like bring the mind down and let the heart override some of the thinking.

Right. Because thinking is so influenced by the ego and by our education and by all kinds of cultural influences. And you know, we hear about monkey mind a lot and it is because it doesn’t want us to live from our soul and our hearts. So I think that’s important to think about. Leo rules the heart. Jupiter is about the, the wisdom of the divine feminine. There’s so many aspects of that that are arising and awakening in our consciousness. Uranus going into Gemini is be open minded. Any, if any possibilities could arise. You know, all kinds of options that haven’t been here before if you’re open to entertaining them.

Some people will, you know, immediately dismiss something. It’s like, why not consider it? How would that change things for you? So that this also is based on a lot of information coming out too, you know, all kinds of stuff. So there’s that. And I also want to mention the fall. When we get into the fall, particularly October, we’re going to have another Mercury retrograde, and we’re going to have a Venus retrograde at the same time in Scorpio. Both of them in Scorpio. So Scorpios are under the microscope of the heart at that point. And, you know, Mercury retrograde is about thinking back over, picking up some loose ends and kind of getting back to something that hasn’t happened and now it’s time to get it together and thoughts like that.

But Venus is more about a kind of reevaluation. How is this feeling? How am I processing this? What does this mean for me at some really deep level I can hardly articulate, but I can feel it. And the. The emotional alchemy that goes with that. I don’t like how I’m feeling. Well, then go down there and change how you’re feeling. And that sounds like, how could I do that? But that is part of the option, part of the process, part of the possibility, because nobody else can make you happy or unhappy. It’s coming from inside out.

It is all coming from inside out. So this is going to be a very interesting time all through October into November, of also letting go of some relationships that aren’t just in sync with you anymore, aren’t in your frequency, aren’t in harmony for you. And so they’re going to be also new choices available. If certain things aren’t making you happy, you don’t have to choose. You don’t have to continue to reaffirm that and choose that and keep telling that story. Can you let that go? And actually, that’s the work I do, is helping people let go.

And, yeah, one of the. One of the greatest gifts that I had to learn was the surrender, right? Yeah. Let go and then surrender. And it’s taken me around the world, literally. That’s. So what do you surrender to, Lisa? So I have an. I have an image, an idea of what I want, but I let go of what it’s meant to look like. I hold on to the feeling of it. Like, my dream has always been to travel. And then all of a sudden, out of the blue, as of last June, I had no idea that in September and October I’d be spending a month in Europe.

It just happened, like, all the opportunities lined up, and then it was supposed to be just in Prague. And then Prague became Ireland, and then Spain, Marbella, Spain came, and then another opportunity Came to go to Portugal. So it was like you said, yeah, and I said yes. And that’s the other thing is saying yes, not going. How am I going to afford it? I can’t leave. You know, all of these things. It’s easy to say no, but when an opportunity gets brought to you. I had the time of my life. I had an amazing time.

And then I knew I wanted to come to Mexico. I had no idea what it was going to look like. My daughter was having a baby, and I didn’t know when I was going to leave. And now when I travel, for the most part, I do one way there. And then I don’t book my return until I’m. Because something else might come up. So I know that freaks a lot of people out. And sometimes it’s costly because it might. My return ticket Europe cost me a little more because I waited too long. But I didn’t know some other opportunity was going to come up and I didn’t want to lose out.

Yeah, yeah. And that’s, that’s, that’s. Well, that’s having faith, but it’s also. And trusting the process. And that’s a Scorpio motto. Trust the process. Yes. Yes, it is. Because once you’re in a process, it is. Something is shifting and it’s hard to see what it is, but you can feel some of that change going on. And you can see certain events or situations are different than they were, but it’s an unfolding, and it happens in the moment. You’re trusting the moment. You’re surrendering to what’s going on now and what’s arising. And that’s the be here now.

That’s the be as fully present as you can in each moment. And it changes our relationship to time, and it changes our relationship to the field of energy that is rearranging itself around our stillness to some extent, when we can be in the moment, aligned spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically. And then we’re fully present. And magic can happen. Magic does happen. And I’ve had many, many stories of the magic happening. And, you know, our first thought is to shut things down, because it’s going to be like, how can I afford that? Right. So a year ago, I had planned.

A friend of mine asked me to go to Puerto Vallarta for a week. And then another friend said, you know, I do these house sits around the world. If I find some house sits, would you join me? And my first response in my head was, no. How can I do that? How can I stay so long? And then I switched it to yes, turned into three months, and we were house sitting for elderly cats all around Mexico. So I wasn’t paying for staying anywhere, but I was staying at magnificent homes. And then we would travel from there.

So we were just paying for food. So it’s like opportunities come that we don’t even know are out there. Yes. Yeah. So that’s the magic that I invite. Right. Exactly. To really. To trust. And that will show. Yeah. Uranus going into Gemini is going to pop a lot of those into the field. You know, like, wow. You know, I was just thinking about that and look like it popped up on my screen or somebody called me or this is happening. So this. A lot of this is happening, which is a part of our awakening, you know, of.

Of multiple opportunities. Right. And just don’t get too distracted. Keep directed with the vision you are holding. But like Lisa says, not. Not holding on too tight to how it has to happen. Yeah, no, it is because. Or sometimes I’ll say, or even better. Yes, yes. Or even better, because I have no idea. And even, like, when I got here, this wasn’t initially a place that I would normally seek out to. To come. And I was like, I wonder why I’m here. The energy was off when I first got here. And then so many things unfolded.

So sometimes you have to surrender to. Okay, there’s a lesson here. I’m here for a reason. I don’t know what that is yet. Let me see how this unfolds. And it was magic afterwards. So so many people will get into this negativity, like, oh, this, you know, this sucks. I don’t want to be here. I don’t know why I’m here. This isn’t the kind of place I’d want to come to. And then I was like, no, this is actually beautiful. Everything unfolded exactly how I needed it to unfold. Well, there’s the acceptance and the allowing of the energy to guide you.

Yes. But one thing I’ve been thinking lately with the combination we have of Neptune, which is like the dream, the vision. Saturn. Saturn is about shaping the energy as it’s moving forward. It’s. It’s shaping it. It’s like. Like working with clay. The clay has its own properties, so we can’t do just anything, but we can shape it as we are using it and experiencing the energies as they’re coming. You know, and this is so new. This is a whole different way of living and of. Of viewing things. It’s a paradigm shift, in fact, like a major one.

We’re in. Yeah. Yeah. No, it’s exciting times if you allow it. Yeah. You know, if you look at things as, you know, change can be good. We don’t know what the outcome is yet. But everything, it’s like when you, when you turn things over, you’re ripping up, you’re seeing the roots, you know, and, and then everything has to be replanted. So we’re ripping up the roots. Some and some. Like it’s a plant in a pot that it’s got root bound. There’s no. It can’t stretch out and grow more. So we are like that. We have to let go of attachments to the past.

Like that John Lennon song that always makes me cry. There are places I remember all my life Though some have changed Some forever Not for better Some are gone and some remain. Oh, that just always gets me. That is beautiful. I have the chills right now. It is a really beautiful song. So, yeah, you know, I, I, if anything I hope people get from this is there’s hope. The energies are really amazing right now. Take advantage of it. If you have something that you’re dreaming of that you want, now’s the time to launch it. Now’s the time to at least start thinking about what you want.

Every day. Every day. Water it like a plant. Yeah. So. Oh my gosh. Any last words or anything or you. Oh, it’s something you said before and it was like, you know, opportunity in times that look drastic. Yes. You know, and there’s chaos theory which, which is like it’s really chaotic out there right now. But in chaos theory, if you can find the heart of the chaos, that’s where the new seed is that’s going to unfold into the next level of experience and consciousness. So there’s this chaos out there, but there’s the seed you can find and water that that is going to be the solution to.

It’s like the eye of the hurricane directs the hurricane and the wild winds go around it, you know. And we don’t want to be in the wild winds. We want to be in the eye of the hurricane. And that still appointed point as we can find within ourselves of that calmness that allows us to envision forward with confidence. Yeah. Jupiter and Leo is going to give us a lot more confidence if you’re, if you’re welcoming it, you know. Oh my God. Well, this was amazing. You are so brilliant when it comes to this. It’s such a, it is, it’s a language of its own.

Yes, it really is. And I learn so much every time I listen to you. And I don’t always catch everything with all the houses, but I love the way you explain things and I love the way you put it together. So I have a sense of the trajectory and what things to look for. Yeah, I really try to make it understandable, or at least you get something out of it or get the feel of it or get the sense of it, you know, with all the technical stuff that, that we astrologers deal with, you know, it’s very complicated, but I think you do a really good job at, you know, really breaking it down.

So I appreciate it. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you. And thank you so much, Kelly. I so appreciate you and all that you’re doing to help people. And if people want to have you, you do. And likewise, Lisa. Thank you. And you do sessions with people? Yes, I do. Yeah. I’m having my. My granddaughter done. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I love. I love. I love looking at people’s charts and looking at what’s going on with them and talking about it. And it’s not prediction. It’s like discussing the energies that are visiting you, that are alive, they’re active, and what does it mean for you? And, you know, you’re in on it, too.

I’m not just reading you. You know, we’re. We’re in a field, and the field is arising with information or insights that. That can be useful to you. No, it’s exciting. It’s exciting. Yeah. No, Kelly does great job with the, with the chart, so. And we’ll have her links below to contact her. And thank you so much, Kelly. Yes, thank you. It was great talking with you again and hope to see you in person soon. Yes, we will. Okay, bye. Bye.
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