Tartaria Giants and Hidden Tech with Michael Jaco and Honey C. Golden

➡ Michael Jacob, Lisa Schermer Horn, and Honey Golden, three intuitive individuals, discuss their experiences with quantum meditation. Lisa has been practicing this for a year and has seen significant changes in her life and others’. They also discuss the concept of energy healing and how it’s not about healing others, but helping them heal themselves. They touch on the topic of ancient civilizations, like Atlantis and Egypt, and their influence on the world. They also mention a significant event in 1797 related to Tartaria, a civilization that still had all the knowledge and technology of the past.
➡ The text discusses various historical and current events, including the concept of Tartaria, a civilization believed to have advanced technology. It also mentions the Cabbage Patch Dolls as a reference to a time when children were transported across the country. The text also talks about the Great Chicago Fire and other simultaneous fires in the US, suggesting they might have been caused by advanced technology. It further discusses the current state of Hawaii and California, hinting at potential disasters due to lack of awareness. Lastly, it touches on the future of travel, suggesting trains might become more prevalent, and the possibility of using portals for travel.
➡ The discussion revolves around various theories and observations about historical events and places. It includes speculations about Chernobyl’s current state, the occurrence of fires across the United States, and the appearance of structures resembling melted buildings in different parts of the world. The conversation also delves into the existence of Tartarians, a supposed ancient civilization, and the discovery of giant beings. The speakers question the mainstream narrative of history and express their curiosity about unexplained phenomena and hidden truths.
➡ The text discusses theories about ancient civilizations, genetic manipulation, and power struggles. It suggests that the Anunnaki, a mythical race, merged their DNA with humans, creating powerful bloodlines. The text also explores the idea of secret societies manipulating human consciousness and history, including the destruction of Tartarian architecture and the use of asylums to erase memories. Lastly, it mentions the concept of ascension, the struggle against oppressive forces, and the cleansing of energy in places like Hawaii and Lemuria.
➡ The text discusses the concept of consciousness, suggesting it begins when an egg meets a sperm and evolves as we grow. It also talks about the idea of ‘NPCs’ or non-player characters, who are individuals that follow a script and lack critical thinking. The text also delves into historical and cultural aspects, mentioning the Persian Empire, the influence of Christianity in Iran, and the ancient cultures of the Kurds. Lastly, it discusses the suppression of information, the manipulation of products like milk, and the disruption of natural rhythms through practices like daylight saving time.
➡ The text discusses a variety of topics, including the beauty of Christmas decorations in Beirut, the use of bells for communication in the past, and the restrictions on unpasteurized milk in certain states. It also mentions a quantum meditation session that costs $44 and is available to everyone. The session is part of a supportive community that helps people navigate their own healing, whether it’s related to relationships or physical health.

Hello, everyone. It’s Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets. We got Lisa Schermer Horn and Honey Golden. Back again, two of my favorite intuitives, three intuitives get together and discuss some fun stuff. So let’s. I did the last meditation, the quantum meditation. It was fantastic. I had some, some interesting things. I thought I would sit, save it for this show because I know you do the Q A after, after the meditation. It was fantastic because I was like, you know, when you meditate with a group of people like that, you really connect. And when you were answering everybody’s question, I was like, I would have said the same thing.

I would have said the same thing. So it was, it was really cool when you guys were, you know, connecting and talking with each. With the people afterwards. First of all, welcome. Thanks for coming on. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Yeah, we jumped, jumped into your little conversation here. So tell us a little about, about the quantum meditation and what, what you guys intend for it and what people can get from it. Go ahead, Lisa. Yeah, so I’ve been doing this for about a year now, and it’s really, really changed my life as well as the other, other people who I’ve been working with.

And it started out as just doing this individually. And the more I worked with it, I realized that I could do it in groups, I could do it long distance, and wanted to help more and more people. And the results have been extraordinary. And I wanted to prove that it was working because when you get into energy healing, it becomes quantitative. You know, it’s not quantitative. It’s more like qualitatively, you know, what is your experience? So I spoke to a friend who was a functional medicine specialist, and she said dark field microscopy, so they look at your live blood under the microscope.

And I started doing that. And Michael, we did your blood. It’s. It’s pretty. What, you know, what’s, what’s crazy? I’ve never had my blood done. Really? Yeah. I need to have my blood done. I know, because it’s illegal in Vermont. I know it’s hard. That’s what I was about to say. It’s hard. That’s why I was doing it down there. So. But yeah, we know when they make it illegal, that means it’s really good, right? Exactly. And even I thought, okay, I’ll check out Canada, and Montreal is not far from me, and all of Quebec, it’s illegal as well.

Yeah, it’s crazy about Canada these days. It’s really gone dark. It’s gone really dark. They’ve I think they’ve now made Ivermectin illegal. Oh, yeah, I see how they’re raiding people that are, you know, distributing. You know, I won’t call them meds. I will call them alternative meds, you know, that are supplements, holistic and so forth. And they’re seizing all of their inventory, and they’re not. I heard just recently that now they’re throwing some of those doctors in jail. It’s like, wow. Yeah. Really bad. It’s really bad. And I have friends who are chiropractors and holistic. They’re all up and up there.

So. But. But anyway, praying for them. And so anyway, we were checking people’s blood before and after and having significant response results. You had your blood done and honey and I did a group out of the Pacific Northwest with Joe and Scott, and every single person in that group had their blood checked, and they all had significant changes from looking really distorted, like stacked coins called rouleaux, to perfect round, like, right afterwards, right after. So it’s. It’s been amazing. People have had extraordinary results. And even their pets, so that’s been fun as well. People’s dogs and cats are in there as well.

So. Yeah, but what. We’re not really healing anyone. We’re helping people heal themselves. Right? Yeah. Right. And that’s what we want people to understand. We’re just. I’m just a catalyst holding space for people, so if they’re ready to heal, they will. Yeah. And so when I did that meditation, I felt really good. And, you know, it’s. I was. Anytime you go into that. That consciousness state, it’s always like, you know, just uplifting and so forth. But some of the stuff that I had to come through was like, I had Zeus, Apollo and. And Neptune come through, and I was like, what? What? And then I was.

I was connecting. Connecting with them. And they were like, you were us. And I was like, what? What do you think? I just got a confirmation that went. Yes. So the architect soul group used to be the Greek gods and the Indian gods, also from India. Yeah. As far as the rest of the gods around, not so much. But they have popped in and out, you know, of different things, like, you know, the Viking gods and stuff like that. But those are the two God groups. They’ve been. Yeah, that makes sense. And, you know, I got that, you know, Atlantean kings and kind of stuff like that.

What do you think about that? Yeah, that’s the same group. And they used to try and do things. So I’m an architect. Lisa’s an architect. You’re probably an architect. Right. So an architect is the first soul group that was born from Source and that’s in my book. But the Angelic split off from them and they basically create all the games and then other beings build them out more. So ETS are building like the Pleiadians had a huge hand in building out Earth, you know, plant life, all kinds of different things like that Elementals, they’re basically the gardeners of the planet.

You know, that’s what they like to do. And they also carry the more the planetary magic. So the architects create these whole worlds that we go and we play in. And I feel like that was a lot for people to get their head around, you know, in the past. And also it’s not cool to be doing hierarchy, to be saying, I’m so cool, I’m a God and I can do what I want. And you’re gonna just learn, you know, like that didn’t really work. So now if an architect is born on Earth or comes into a body on Earth, they’re in a human body.

They’re doing things like everybody else is doing. Do they know certain kinds of things? Yes. But a fairy will know what to do with a seed and an architect will know how to build something, you know, like. And it’s all with light and sound and everything fabulous and connecting with the elementals. And they’ll give you guidance and help you grow your crops or your plants and so forth or you know, take care of other things around. You had some connections with the elementals. So the, the architects basically creating the Earth like you were talking about in the initial stages, coming in and creating the waters and creating this, you know, the plants and the animals and so forth.

That’s. That’s architect. So yeah, it’s fine with that. That’s cool. I could see you guys absolutely doing that. So fantastic. So. So that. That’s kind of a. I wanted to kind of go into segue into a couple of different things. So that’s kind of cool about the Greek gods and the architects and so forth. Elementals. That could be, you know, just like we talk about. We could just do a whole three hour show just on that stuff. But let’s look at the truth behind Tartaria. We talked about that in a couple shows ago and we’re gonna go deeper into it.

So criteria. The mud, floods, star forts, giants, you know, technology. The cathedrals of the Tartarians were aligned with the stars and all that kind of stuff. We still See some of those cities here on Earth that are still aligned with the stars. Ancient cities. Tell us. Tell us what your thoughts are about that, ladies. Okay, so, Lisa, you jump in whenever you want. I will. I just saw a video that is really cool with some cool information. So, yeah, I’ll jump in. So Atlantis started, like, that was probably the biggest civilization that we kind of were involved with as souls here.

And this includes the audience. And then that fell and then it was more Egyptian. So I think that Egypt actually started in the usa and that was like. It was more in the Colorado, like those Four corners areas. But then it spread out and basically it was the whole United States and down into Mexico and there’s probably stuff up in Canada, too. Yeah. But as far as that goes, that was the prequel to Tartaria. So as far as like the Roman stuff and the Roman gods and all of that, that was before. And I think that the actual mud flood, like the huge mud flood that was water came before Tartaria.

So that one came before. And then after Tartaria was around. I get in 1797. What we know is 1797 is when the liquefaction event happened. And Tartaria was like, they still had all the knowledge, they still had all the technology. They hadn’t slid backwards and they hadn’t basically been enslaved again, like what happened not that long ago here. So they had everything. I mean, they were doing it in kind of a steampunk way, funky way. And a lot of it, you know, some of it was more 3D, some of it was 40. But they had all the knowledge and their DNA.

Like, as far as humanity goes, I believe the DNA was still at 6. 6 strands. Wow. During Tartaria and when the incubator baby thing happened, that’s when it just slammed down to two. So that’s the Cabbage Patch Dolls. That’s, you know, that whole reference to it, the Cabbage Patch Children, where they were delivering the children across the country in male sacks. Yeah, yeah. And they were. They had. I just saw today they had some funny little video. It was supposed to be the first learning, like, video that they ever put out or movie. And it was this lady who was a fairy and she was collecting kids out of cabbages so that they were telling people back then what they were doing.

Yep. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That looks cool. Yeah, I love the. That’s the orphan trains. That’s where they. That, yeah, the orphan trains children. Yep. Yeah. So what’s interesting is I just saw this video where they talked about the people who were born in 1871 were still in the thick of it. And a lot of them, you know, lived until through the 30s. Many of them did. And during the depression in the 30s, President Roosevelt brought together a number of, because they weren’t working journalists who they wanted to keep, they hired them to document the lives of 2900 people during that period of time to document their lives.

So the sky literally in the 1950s went, was there. I don’t remember when he went into the archetype archives and found file cabinets filled with people, people’s lives, talking about their lives in Tartaria. But that was shut down for years. No one had access to it. And one of the things they talked about because it was a short video, was the great Chicago Fire simultaneously. It wasn’t just Chicago. There were cities in Michigan, there were cities in other places in the United States that all went up at Florida. Flames at the same time. And they talked about in Chicago how there were blue flames coming out of the basements of some of the buildings from the people who survived.

The oxygen was burning up. So people who weren’t even around the flames couldn’t breathe because the oxygen was just sucked out. Something like 2, 2500 people perished in one area at a time. This was in three states. 1.2 million acres just went up. Yeah, so it took me back to Lahaina. It took me back to what went on in California in those areas. You know, I’m thinking very similar technology. I don’t know what your thoughts are. Yeah, and Lahaina. So Lahaina got burned and we didn’t learn from it. So they burned, you know, la, all that area.

And now they just came in with a storm in Hawaii again. Now the governor in both cases basically put out a massive, you know, emergency. We’re seizing control and all that kind of stuff. Two weeks before, two weeks before Lahaina burning. And just for the recent storm, two weeks before this storm. So they, they know what they’re doing. And in Lahaina and some of these other places, it’s linked to a 15 minute city that’s, you know, deal that’s being run from Brazil. So Brazil, you know, captured operation with Lula. They basically kicked out Bolsonaro, put him in jail.

It’s, it’s very sad what’s going on there. The, I guess the head of their judicial system is just as corrupt. It’s not more corrupt than ours is. So they, they’re controlling everything from there. And it’s just so they’re running Hawaii. So people in Hawaii are connected with people in Brazil. They’re doing the 15 minute city stuff. And so that’s another intention they have for, you know, the LA area, you know, to turn all that area into 50 minute city type stuff. So what we’re seeing in again in Hawaii. And I said the same thing when what, when the COVID stuff was happening, I said, watch Australia.

Whatever they get away with Australia, they’re going to do it in America over and over again. You know, after season, they were doing the same thing. I said, see what they’re doing in Australia because it’s a microcosm where they can come in and control them easier than they can in America. So they get away with it there. They get all the different things that they know that works and they bring it to America and do the same thing. So we’re going to see probably, unfortunately, the same thing happen in California once again because, you know, we’re not awakening to what they’re doing.

Yeah, there’s a lot of clearing going on too. So it’s, it’s a pretty wild time that we’re in right now. It is the, the age. I mean, this is the year of all the disclosure though. So if people don’t figure it out this year, they’re probably not staying on this planet in this timeline. Yeah. So that’s what Dolores Cannon said. That’s what Edgar Casey said years and years ago, that 20, 26 was the, was the year for consciousness rise. And then this split, it’s kind of a split. It’s like we’re. Dolores Cannon had a great analogy where she said there’s like two trains leave the station.

You have the ones that are awakened on one. They’re trying to like wave at other people that are like, you know, got their blinders on and they’re facing forward and they’re just going to the train, going to nowhere. And so some people jump off the train and they’re yelling, trying to get their attention still, and they’re getting sucked under the tree and getting run over. So don’t do that. They’re. They’re on their soul journey. That’s what they’re, you know, meant to do. There’s whole families that are completely discombobulated. Oh, I’m worried about the entire state of Vermont, to be honest.

I don’t know if this could be anywhere left. Kevin Hoyt will be able to get home pretty easily. Yeah, it’s like. Yeah, yeah, we’re definitely in the final split right now, so. And you were Honey, you were saying air travel is. It’s probably not going to be a good thing going forward. What are your thoughts on that? I really don’t think it’ll be great this year. I feel like it’s gonna stutter a lot. And yeah, they’ll open it back up to a degree, but I think they’re gonna push the trains. Honestly, it feels like the trains are getting closer to coming in.

And I think that’s why Elon’s been talking about them, because he’s a 2.0, you know, so he’s pushing the narrative. And the trains have been there for so long and it’s such a fast way to travel. And I know some people are not excited about that idea, but they’ve been using them for years as they’ve gotten rid of more and more of the cabal, you know, so I’m sure that there’s some routes that have been cut off and won’t be used, and there’s a lot of stuff that’s probably been cut off, but we will probably have that as a travel system for a while.

And it just depends on who you are, what timeline you’re in, what you’re willing to accept. Accept how fast your travel becomes. Because I personally would like to just start with portals, but I don’t think that everybody’s ready for that, you know, so. Interesting. Yeah. So you. Let’s. Let’s go back to Tartaria. The. The free energy. Those, you know, onion domes and so forth that were in Russia for quite some time. They’re still in Russia. And they were, I guess, all around the world. And, you know, the architecture and stuff like that, you know, it was absolutely exquisite.

Now, Napoleon went into Russia with a 600, 000 man army, and he returned with only 20, 000. And when he was in Russia, there was great huge fire conflagrations that happened in Moscow, and very similar to a nuclear event. And all of the soldiers had the same problems and died from the same problems that you would from exposure to nuclear fallout. So do you think that they use nukes in, you know, destroying Tartaria? No, I think they probably used the directed energy weapons. Yep, that’s got the same. Has the same thing. Yeah, only it’s more refined.

Right. I don’t really think the ETS would allow nuclear weapons. I feel like they’re like, don’t mess up our area too, because, you know, you think about the different dimensions. They could be walking right next to you at any point. So. So why would they Allow that. So I think they’ve been watching and keeping track of all the weird things that humanity’s been doing for a very long time. You think that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not nuclear miss. That they actually use a direct injury weapons on those two? That’s what I think. I was just saying that’s the same question.

Yeah. Well, if you think about it, how are people living there so quickly? Yeah, yeah. I think even the Fukushima thing was a bit of a psyop. Yeah. You know, and I think, you know, when you think about Chernobyl and then you see a documentary where they’re there and it’s like green and beautiful and, you know, all this kind of stuff and you’re like, did they contaminate the water probably with that stuff? But would people be okay if they actually live there now? I feel like they would. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like it’s a.

It’s just crazy. Yeah. I mean, the fires were all over the United States. They were in San Francisco. They were doing fires consistently for, I don’t know, maybe like a 10 to 20 year period. And the great Chicago fire, the great San Francisco fire, the great, you know, whatever fire. And they were doing it all over the place. Well, if you, if you look at photos of like the Grand Canyon and other areas of the country, they look in the world sometimes some of the mountains and these, these structures look like melted buildings. Like, you can see like little windows and things like that.

When I was in Spain with, there was one, one city we went to and there was this huge cliff down at the bottom. You could see a whole layer below. And I was like, there’s houses under there. Like, there was this huge, huge. You know, we were with Dave Mahoney and he’s pointing this out and I’m like, look at down there. How did they build that inside? This cliff was wild. Yeah. Yeah, Cappadocia. So I’ll share the screen and let you guys see that. But yeah, they’re definitely melted. Imagine like a city like New York City and they just come in and just melt all the buildings down into, you know, these, like, you see here, there’s like these.

Yeah, these cliffs. These are all, these were all buildings and they have like doors in them and you can go inside them and they’re like. Right here. Yeah. Inside they’re like, they’re magnificent. So why would you drill into a piece of rock like that and, you know, make a, you know, something magnificent inside? You wouldn’t do that. So obviously, you know, this stuff is, this is around the world like this. And they talk how in, like here in Cappadocia. It’s cool having how the balloons there will be a good view to, you know, do the balloon ride and you know, look down on all the ancient city that’s been melted.

What’s so cool is now people are recognizing it. Yeah. Because we didn’t before. Nobody was like aware. We just didn’t. I don’t know how they managed that really. How do you manage to fool so many people? Well, the other thing is when you travel around the world and you go into these magnificent buildings, the doors are like 30ft high. Like why would they build doorways and entryways that are that enormous for people who are 6ft tall and supposedly shorter than that? Yeah, well. And even the lock is like way up, you know, like, oh well, we need 10 people to stand on their shoulders.

In order to get to the lock, they have to have a special mechanism that’s down lower. I mean, come on. I mean, it’s just common sense that it doesn’t work. And the pilgrims actually said in their writing when they came over, oh, everything’s already here for us. It’s so amazing. It’s like, well, yeah, because all the people are dead. But what’s also interesting, and I’m curious when you talk about slavery and that my understanding is the Tartarians were Moors, they were dark skinned. And then I saw something that said that Abraham Lincoln was actually a Moor, was Tartarian, dark skin.

Like they’ve actually altered a lot of presidents and famous people their skin color. Yeah, there were presidents before, there were presidents. So also the Tartarians had a lot of giants and you know, we, we. I’ve seen, I have a guy that, you know, does work on that and looks at giants and so forth and he’s got some great videos, some great stuff, but he doesn’t believe it’s Arteria. I was like, are you kidding me? So I’m not gonna say his name out. But he, you know, it’s written a lot of books. He’s done, done really good.

But he’s kind of starting to move a little bit towards Artigiri now because, you know, I’ve been showing some stuff. So. But to me it’s, it’s very obvious. If anyone has questions about it, there’s this slew of Tartaria videos on YouTube and they’re absolutely fascinating. And when you see just one of them, you’re like, okay, it’s real, right? It existed. You can’t you can’t argue anymore. And why. Why do we not have memories of that? Because every time, you know, they’re digging, I guess they did, uh, they’re building something. And, uh, where was it? Uh, the Falls, Uh, where’s the Falls? Niagara Falls.

Niagara. Niagara Falls, yeah. They’re building. Of course, you know, Tesla built, you know, a generation system there, and it did the World’s Fair for the first time. They, you know, lit it up, and we can talk about that as well. But the world fair stuff, how they came in and spaces destroyed pieces of torture and said, oh, yeah, we’re just tearing down the old warfare. But they. They dug and they found like, these huge. Like they had already, you know, tapped into Niagara Falls in the past and used it for generation. And they were like, excavating it, and then they just stopped it and covered it over real quick.

So, you know, they keep covering all this stuff, and people throughout Europe will dig. Here in the United States, they’ll dig. I’ve heard that a lot of farms in the United States, they’ll dig down about 20ft and they start uncovering all kind of crazy stuff. And they just come in and just like, shut it down, cover it up until everybody. Not to talk about it. But. And then the files on all this stuff, they had files on this stuff in the past, like you’re talking about Lisa, and they’ve. They’ve disappeared. So it’s, you know, just like we saw with COVID they come in with a lie.

And, you know, now that we’re trying to go back and say, now that people are starting to wake up, we can’t find the information that we had in the beginning. It’s all buried, gone, you know, destroyed, so forth. And then some people, like, I know there’s a lot of truthers out there that I have known over the years that are no longer with us that disclose this stuff, and they, you know, have these untimely deaths. So people are like, I’m not gonna. I’m not gonna say anything. That’s. That’s how they control this information. Right? Well, you know, I always want to ask a question, question to people about archaeology and the people who go out and, you know, dig up civilizations.

What’s the first thing you want to ask yourself is how do you build a city on top of a city? What happened that you suddenly have another civilization on top of another civilization? No one questions that. It’s like you have these people who go to school for years, and they’re sitting there digging up, you Know different bones and civilizations and, and then there’s no, we don’t question that in school. Like how does another city get on top of another city? They act like it’s all erosion or something, I don’t know. But you know, and, and as a, as a child I didn’t question it.

Like I didn’t, you know, it’s like that was a fact. And then all of a sudden I started questioning how, how did, how does this happen? But the other question I have for you, Michael is, you know, they talked about, was it Iraq where they found giants there? The red headed giants? Yeah. Were those Nephilim, Were those different than Tartarians? Are they different group of people, honey? But I can tell you that did happen. They did find the, the giant there in Afghanistan not too far, not too long ago, right? Yeah, that was well been about, I don’t know, eight, ten years now.

But I talked to some of the guys who were involved in that and they, they shared the information that was real. So the SEAL team went in and you know, they were, they were told it was there and uh, they killed this giant, uh, was badass. So they came heavy weapons and everything. And it was, it was kicking some of their asses. I guess some guys got hurt. But they came of the helicopter and they flew it away, right? Put it in some kind of binding or whatever and then flew it away. But it had red hair.

And a lot of these giants seem to have red hair. Okay, go to you honey, and see what your thoughts are. Okay, so you guys know about the Anunnaki, right? So the Anunnaki came doing during the Sumerian times, enslaved them and wanted them to be digging for gold all the time. So the Sumerians were dark, the Anunnaki were white. Right? They were white and they had red hair. And they’ve been messing with genetics forever. So they were huge. They were much bigger than giants. And they’ve been like merging DNA with human and Anunnaki for years and years.

And the bloodlines that control or have controlled the world, I don’t really feel like they’re in power anymore. But those 13 families were Anunnaki families. Okay? And not all Anunnaki were bad. Just like not all human beings are bad and not all are good. But so they kept messing with the genetics and shrinking so that they could do better in the atmosphere, they could fit in better on Earth. And I think that the Berserker type giant was pure, more pure Annunaki and a bit more Crazy because I don’t think it worked so well to do that kind of genetics.

And if you think about Genghis Khan, he was. Red hair. He had red hair. Right. So these were Tartarian people. They were just part of the people. And the Moorish people were also part of the people. But I don’t think the Tartarians cared at all what color you were. Yeah, that was another part of the division that went on. So. And I don’t think slaves actually came from Africa if they’re in America either. I think they were already here. So, you know, there’s. There’s all these cities that are, you know, I think they came in and liquefied.

Liquefication. And then, you know, these city sank. Maybe they weren’t destroyed to the level they wanted them to and then. But you know, same thing, people get dumbed down. I think they insert people in a lot of the. Like what I’m hearing, they made these mad. Mad where you go where you’re like, you know, you’re crazy or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But they’re really nice. And people would go in there that had these memories of Tartaria and so forth and they’d send them into these places and they MK Ultram. And get rid of those memories and then send them out.

So that. That was happening around the world as well. So you see these massive, beautifully, you know, done crazy houses. I think there’s a different name for them. Asylums. Asylums. There you go. And they so had all these asylums all around the world, you know, in the. I think the early 1800s is when they started building them. So that’s around the time frame where they really hammered throughteria. Yeah. And I think some of them were tartarian buildings. Like they were already. Yeah, not all of them, but some of them. And there. It’s crazy. I just watched some kind of show and they had this beautiful building that they abandoned and let rot.

But it was obviously tartarian and everything else around it was like brutalist, ugly architecture, you know. Yeah. Kind of like what they did with the. Those beautiful world fairs. So they had world fairs all of one with the New York, Buffalo, New York I think. And that’s where they came in and had, you know, Tesla lit it up. So it was lit up. It was, it was magnificent. First time ever, at least to people’s knowledge, that there was. Or at least they let. Let on. There was like this electrical, you know, engineering feat that happened. But they destroyed everything after each one of these world fairs.

So it was a way that could come in and get those Tartaria buildings and say, oh, we just built it, you know, in like, you know, less than a year. And of course they’re like magnificent. They’re better buildings than anything that’s existing anywhere else. And then afterwards they just tear them all down. So it’s destroying another way of destroying the culture that was still left. Yeah, they were constantly doing that. And that’s when the incubator babies got introduced as well. So were those babies cloned? I mean, is that when you say incubator, where was the origin of these babies? Babies like they were, they were basically cloned and they, they figured out how to split consciousness.

So when I tuned into them, it was like they were able to take one human consciousness, one human soul and split it into a hundred and done that. To me, I’m in a secret space program all over the place. Yeah. So it’s crazy what they did. Yeah, yeah. So, but was that also like what were they looking for when they found someone’s consciousness? Because were they in the process of finding people where they could dumb down consciousness to control? Yes. Yeah. I mean, they really didn’t want anybody to have any kind of to do what we’re doing now.

I didn’t want anybody to be doing what we’re doing now. And a lot of us, you know, a lot of us big souls were found out and killed off, you know, before ascension ever started. But now we’re in the process of ascension and their whole process is failing. So. And that’s what we’re watching happen. Yeah, we had the 2021. They’re supposed to have like, you know, they’re supposed to be in control by 2021, you know, during a time frame just before COVID They brought, came out with COVID It didn’t happen the way they anticipated. So that moved to 2030 and now it’s moved from 2030 to 2026 to like 2040 something.

So they’re, they keep pushing the dates back because we keep waking up and stopping their progress. Of course they’re trying to do whatever they can to stop us. You know, we got the Trump administration basically taking out a massive, you know, system in Iran right now, which when that’s done, that’s going to be incredible to be able to go there. I’m, I’m anticipating going there after all this is done and connecting with a lot of those, the energies that are there. But they’re on the, the flip side of that. They did Hawaii while they’re over here.

Doing, you know, knocking out, you know, Iran. They sneak in and they. They did Hawaii. So they’re. They still have control and ways of doing damage. I think some of us sometimes, you know, instead of cleaning stuff up, and I know a lot of people are like, why does it just get going? It has been going, I believe, to a great extent. But, uh, they threatened. They threatened just like, you know, they destroyed Moscow and Napoleon’s army. They can destroy massive, you know, amounts of people, or they used to be able to. It’s not so much now.

What. What do you guys think? So I actually think that it had to do with cleaning up underneath Hawaii. A lot of things were being flooded there, and it needed to flood and everything was being kept because the hurricane basically just sat on top of a couple of the islands, so. Because I have friends in Hawaii. Yeah. And I think it was, you know, we bubbled her house. So she’s fine. Her house is fine. Her solar system’s fine. However, we have to remember that there’s more than one reason almost every time something happens. So it’s for disclosure.

It’s also to flood out things that cannot be there anymore. And water is amazing for clearing energy because the energy that’s been in those tunnels all this time has been so horrific, you know, so there’s all these souls that were trapped and all this. Like, there’s so many things that happened in those tunnels, and it. It has to be completely cleaned up. So I think that’s what was going on. It was twofold. And I think the people of Hawaii will recover. But it’s gonna be rough. I mean, it’s a huge wake up call to have that happen again, you know, because the fire was one thing and now this.

This happened. Yeah. Is there a. Is there also a portal there? I know that there’s a giant portal in Iraq, but I was like, there’s something that’s there that they keep going back to. Are they trying to get hold of a Stargate or a portal there in Iran? Well, Iran, I know, but Hawaii, I was curious. I believe Iraq, Iran. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hawaii. No, I don’t get that. But it was, you know, the main. It was one of the main hubs of Lemuria, you know, of Mu. And it has to be cleansed. I mean, not only is all this stuff going on, but Lemuria is when it all kind of started, like back with Atlantis and Lemuria, that’s when they started messing with everybody’s genetics.

And Lemuria wasn’t doing that. But Atlantis was. And that was really like the beginning of polarization on Earth. But Earth had already fallen into the 3D. At that point I wrote something down. I had a quick question going back to the. The Cabbage Patch dolls and stuff. When you think about NPCs and then the. Also the big souls that are coming in are NPCs more offspring of those or they have nothing to do with each other because how, how does a big like architect soul come into a body if these were all created as Cabbage Patch dolls or people.

Kids like that. The kids. It really. So you can create whatever kind of body you want. That’s the main thing to remember. If it’s gonna behoove you as a soul to come into a certain family for your mission, for your job. Yeah. That you want to do, then you will make sure that you have what you need to do that. And when the, when the egg meets the sperm, like that’s the beginning of consciousness there. But usually it’s going to just be a human consciousness to start out with because this is a human world, like we’re in human body.

If as an architect soul or an angelic soul or whatever, like it’s not your normal to be here. So you’re here to guide the human part of you and you can make it whatever you want. I walked in when I was like 18 months old, but I had been hanging out with my father for nine years before I showed up. So I got really excited when I showed up and I was really ornery, you know, in that moment. But we just, we can create whatever we want. I think that’s one of the things that is hard to get our heads around too is everything is malleable and we’re not solid.

We’re not even a solid being. You know, you can see through the human body if you put it under a microscope. Yeah. So Dolores Cannon said that the NPCs were pretty low level souls if, if at all. And you know, not much consciousness there. They’re here to basically be part of the picture, like the movie. And they’re, they have their roles very, very limited, very, you know, they don’t do much so. And I’ve got, I’ve met. How many, how many people have we all met that seem like they’re NPCs, right. They just don’t have any critical thinking.

They just follow the script, the narrative, whatever one they’re attracted to. And they are basically, I think, just part of a bigger picture. Now some of these NPCs are programmed to A certain extent to seed the consciousness with certain information. Because I’m seeing there’s a lot of narratives out there. I see this one website where seems like all these people are having these near death experiences and Jesus is showing up and telling them, yep, there’s going to be these cataclysms and all this stuff. I’m like, ah, you know, all these people, you know, it’s. And I, I’ve been watching these shows and like one of the dates that they said it was going to happen, New York was gonna be flooded, was March 15th.

So that’s coming on. And then there’s other dates in April and I’m like, I, I personally don’t see it, but I’m like, I’m just paying attention to it, observing it. But I know there’s a lot of people that are basically, they have this consciousness that’s input, maybe MK Ultra type stuff and they, they come in and they’re, you know, because of their consciousness they can pull that reality into existence. Yeah. And we have to remember that we pull information from the field. We don’t actually hold it in our brain. So they could be getting beamed that information.

Right. You know, and maybe they were trained that way. Yeah. Well, there was, there was talk about in Iran, massive amounts of conversions, people seeing Christ and Jesus and you know, they’re burning down mosques and people are going to church. So something is happening over there where people are having these massive amounts of conversions to Christianity. But my understanding they were not really a Muslim country in the beginning anyway. I mean this was forced on them. They didn’t even speak, they had their own language, they didn’t speak Arabic. They speak Farsi, right? Yeah. And the Persian Empire goes way back.

Yeah. SARS the Great and Alexander the Great came in and brought, you know, the Greek language and so forth. He conquered, but he didn’t basically convert them into a Greek society. So they kept their identity and their religions and so forth, Zoroastrianism, but it is, you know, they’ve had every religion. I’ve been to what I think were parts of Iran and that’s in the Curtis area in Iraq when I was working there during CIA times. And the Kurds are, are unbelievable. They have ancient, ancient religious, you know, cultures that are still active there. The three wise men came from Kurdistan and I went to the Mount where they were and everybody’s like, that’s where the three wise men were.

And I was like, wow. And so they had like this beautiful village below there had waterfalls and all kind of, it Was. It must have been amazing. So, you know, there’s. There’s a lot of this information that’s out there, just like Tartaria. It’s been, you know, buried and suppressed. And if you go there, you’re laughed at or you’re, you know, isolated. I remember just. God, it was like 15, 20 years ago maybe, where I was like, so into Tesla and Nicholas Tesla and I’m talking about his stuff. It’s like no one knew what the heck I was talking.

Who is that? So now everybody knows. So you can. Like we’re doing right now, we’re. We’re disclosing about Tartaria. And when we have to be aware that in the past, when we’ve reached a level of consciousness that they don’t like, they come in and, like, hammer us. But I think we’re at the point where we’re going to, you know, bypass that control and that complete, you know, devastation that they’ve done in the past. Look what they did to the bells in the cathedrals. Yeah, yeah, bells. Those were sound, healing. And they actually, they claimed that they needed them for the war, but they found giant burial ground of all these bells.

Right. They just buried them. I lived in Pittsburgh, which was one of the wealthiest cities in the country, with the melons and the Carnegies. And we had a house that had nine fireplaces. But the realtor said, oh, those don’t work anymore. But they were only like this big. They were the old way of heating. It was a whole different system. And they were stained glass in the house. The cost of living there was so low. I mean, compared to where I came from, New York and New Jersey. We walked there and we’re like, it’s a quarter of the price of everything now.

I don’t know, not so much. But that house was built like a tank. I mean, it was brick and wood and mahogany and onyx. And the workmanship on it. I mean, that I lived in a tartarian house. It was amazing with the radium fireplaces. Yeah, that’s what they use. If you can’t use the radium, what is it? The dishware that used to glow in the dark. You’re supposed to eat off of all that, and then suddenly they’re dangerous. But they used to eat off of all that. Yeah. Super healthy back then. Yeah. And so they had to do away with it.

I just saw recently, Tracy shared with me where who’s. Who is that gangster that came out with the. The stuff on the milk? So Al Capone. So Al Capone. Was moving in Chicago. Of course he was moving alcohol, but milk was. He. They were making more. Their farmers were making more profit on their milk deliveries than he was on getting his alcohol out there. So they came up with a scheme to, you know, mark everything with the expiration date. And milk, you know, fresh, you know, whole milk from the cow lasts forever, pretty much. It doesn’t rot, so it’s.

It’s perfect. And of course, they had to pasteurize it now. Yeah, it probably does expire, and it’s not good for you. So they, they came in and they put an expiration date on everything. They. They talk and of course, you know, gangsters talk. You pay it off. The, you know, the politicians and they. And Al Capone had the only machinery that would stamp the expiration dates on everything. So the farmers had to get their milk with expiration dates. And they. They weren’t. They couldn’t afford it. They started going out of business and. And then, of course, alcohol became very popular and.

Crazy stuff, right? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. These patients that have, you know, come down to us over the years and we just don’t realize it, and then we wake up to it. It’s like, well, let’s. Let’s change that back to where it was. And it’s like. It’s like pulling every tooth in your mouth to try and get it done. I mean, just look at the. You know, we, we roll the time back, we roll it forward every year. And everybody, almost everybody in America is, like, sick of it and have been for decades. And we keep telling our politicians we don’t like this, change it, and, oh, we’re going to get on that.

Don’t worry. We’re going to do a study, we’re going to talk about it. And year and year after year goes by, and it’s like, it’s. It’s pathetic. You know, it’s like the system we’re in. Well, and it interrupts your rhythm, your natural rhythm. So that’s what they want. No, like the bells. You know, the bells are like, you know, music. When I was in Beirut, they had. They still have the bells, and they’re absolutely magnificent. Of course, the, the Muslim population is, you know, overcoming everything and destroying everything, unfortunately, but it is. It is fantastic. Still, I would say I was there during a Christmas time frame one year, and all the, Every, every city has a cathedral and there’s like tons of tons of cities throughout all the hills in Beirut.

And they, like, just lit it up and had all kind of Christmas decorations. It was Most amazing thing I’ve ever seen anywhere. And then you have Wells, you know, and it’s like, wow. It’s like. It was incredible. So there’s still a piece of that out there, probably somewhere else. But like you said, Lisa, there’s lots of, you know, videos. Same thing, the Tartary videos, where they took all those bells down because they communicated town to town. That’s how they didn’t have, you know, like, you know, walkie talkies or cell phones or anything like that. They communicate through the belt, through the bell system, and it would go throughout all the lands and everybody knew what was going on.

So, you know, they, they took them down for a reason, so they could control populations again and, and stamp our stuff with expiration dates and all kind of great stuff. Roll back the time and yes. Yeah, they still. In certain states, the unpasteurized milk is illegal. In Vermont, you can still get it, but you, you literally have to sign your life away. I mean, you have to fill out all these forms and sign that if you get sick, it’s your responsibility. You can’t sue and, and you can’t just go and buy it. Like, you have to be put in a book and they have to look you up and make sure everything’s legal.

And it’s insane, but I think they’re. They’re stopping that. I think that they’re going to make the pasteurized milk legal in Mexico. The eggs are out. They’re not refrigerated, they’re out. They’re room temperature. And the, the shells are thicker and they’re. It’s just a very different. They’re. They’re very different. So I’m looking forward. I try and buy my eggs unpasteurized as much as my nails are so hard and growing like crazy here I go back home and. And my nails start to get brittle and break again. So whatever they’re doing to us, it’s really frustrating. Yeah.

I remember when they had the bird flu in the States and they’re like, you know, killing all the birds and egg prices were going crazy. You just go right across the border and it was no problem. There’s no bird flu over there. And you could get eggs for a regular price. But, you know, again, same thing. The manipulations, you know, how much longer will they continue? I. I don’t think too much longer because we’re really, really waking up. Yeah, we’re really close. We’re really close. Yeah. No, you can feel it. The way to get closer is to do the quantum meditation.

So When’s the next one coming up? Right, it’s Thursday. So It’s Thursday the 19th. Oh, the 19th. Okay. Yeah, it’s this Thursday. It’s at 12:00 clock and 4:00 clock Eastern. You can go to both or just one. It’s a subscription. It’s only $44. I mean, we give a lot of value for $44. It’s unbelievable. But we want it available to everyone and there’s a lot that we do with people. It’s. It’s a really. It’s a beautiful community. Yeah. I was surprised how many people were there. So, you guys, is it growing? Looks like it’s growing, yeah.

Growing, yeah, it’s growing. And we need to keep getting the word out because it’s. I think it really helps people in so many ways. And they’re really learning how to navigate their own healing, you know, because they’re up there in the Akashic records and they’re thinking about what’s going on with them. And so it doesn’t matter what you’ve got going on. If it’s a relationship, the way that you operate in relationships or, you know, something about your body or whatever, you can heal it. And that’s what we’re there for, is just to grab you. Something happened.

I know. All of a sudden I just went. I had to. I’m over in YouTube. I had to change the date because I thought it was like next week, but it’s this week. Oh, no. Yeah, it’s. It’s Thursday. Normally we do it then, but I’m traveling and it’s hard. I feel bad because I’m on the road a lot. So Honey and I are like, when are we doing it? Next month. So it’s not a consistent date. We try to. It’s usually on a Thursday. Yeah, we try and do it on a Thursday. And it would have been like the same date.

One. One month later. I was like, wow, look at that. It’s like 26. 26 all the way back. Yeah, it would have been, except I’m gonna be hopefully flying that day. Yeah, she’ll be hopefully flying here. I’m flying to go see Honey. Yeah. And you can use Michael Jacob for the code for 11 discount. Yeah, that’s good. Very nice. Very nice. And highly recommend. You know, if. If my time is. Timing’s right, I’ll be in there. I think it will be. So the energy there with that group, guys, is phenomenal. And of course, afterwards you get a Q A and it’s like, you get to see where you’re at.

You’re like, how would I answer this? You know? And then honey comes in or Lisa comes in and says this. I’m like, wow, that’s. That’s what I would have said. So it’s really, really cool. And I know that people ask you some. They want more in depth questions about, you know, past relatives and so forth. And I’m like, she’s going to give them the basic. Because this is personal. And, you know, you know, go deep down that rabbit hole in a group. So you give them the base. And they seem a little bit. I was hoping for more, but, uh, that’s if they connected with that.

Because I, I used to do this as well. If they connected with that, that’s a signal for them that they’re connecting. And like, you’re talking about, you learn how to do that on your own by going to these types of meditations according to that state of consciousness. And you’re kind of like, yeah, you’re like, open your eyes and you’re like, you know, watching everything and, you know, maybe getting involved with the conversation. But you’re still in that quantum consciousness state and you can, you can connect and do amazing things. So play with those energies after you do the meditation and kind of, kind of see where everybody’s at and feel that energy.

It’s quite, quite amazing. And you did, you actually did have quite a few gentlemen in there. So that’s, that’s a, that’s a positive. Yeah, that was great. It’s great. You know what, it’s really nice to see more and more men getting into the energy field. And we have this amazing, brilliant woman, Liz Perkins, who is an incredible healer and she’s got her masters in body botany and she, she helps people a lot. She does muscle testing and all kinds of healing as well. So we have a signal group that people can ask questions as well. So.

And we stay in touch with people on that group as well. Yep. Very nice. Wow. We had some, we had some serious chat in this one. I was just. I know I stopped it at one point and I was like, okay, let’s scroll down to the bottom. I was like, I know, I did that too. I was like, wow. No, it’s. It’s been a great conversation. We’ve been wanting to talk about this for a while. So Tartaria is fascinating and, you know, there’s more and more coming out. Very good. And we’ll probably have another great intuitive conversation, you know, three, four weeks out, whatever.

So thanks, ladies. So much, and thank you. Thank you. Want a meditation? 44 bucks. You can’t. You can’t. It’s, like, amazing, guys. You can’t. You can’t beat it. You’re not going to get a meditation on that level anywhere else for that price, so. And you can get it for 11 less if you use the Michael Jacob. Yeah, There you go. All right, ladies, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thank you. Bye.
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