Humanity Unchained: The Awakening of the Divine Feminine Masculine w/ Dr. Brianna Ladapo

➡ The text discusses the speaker’s journey of trusting their intuition, despite their family’s disapproval due to religious beliefs. They also promote a product called Masterpiece, which is said to remove harmful substances from the body. The speaker then introduces Dr. Brianna Latipo, a naturopath and energetic healer, who shares her experiences growing up in a religious family and learning to trust her intuition. The conversation also touches on the intersection of science and spirituality, and the potential backlash from those who don’t understand or accept these concepts.
➡ The text discusses the author’s personal journey of spiritual exploration and self-discovery, which was met with resistance from her family due to their religious beliefs. She faced challenges and trauma, but these experiences helped her grow and understand her own beliefs better. She also discusses the negative impact of religious structures that limit personal growth and the importance of seeking tools for personal healing. The author believes that everyone has spiritual gifts and that the journey of self-discovery is essential for personal growth and understanding.
➡ The speaker believes in creating a world that works for everyone, emphasizing love and respect for humanity. They share their experiences of hearing voices and seeing visions from a young age, which they believe were angels guiding and protecting them. They also discuss the importance of balancing the Divine Masculine and Divine Feminine energies, rejecting the idea of ‘toxic masculinity’ and ‘feminazi’, and emphasizing the need for individuality and understanding of one’s unique gifts and talents. The speaker also mentions a peptide called GHK CU, which they claim has various anti-aging benefits.
➡ The text discusses the idea that societal labels and identities are designed to distract us from our true selves and potential. It suggests that these labels are used to manipulate us for the benefit of those in power. The text also explores the concept of personal trauma and how it can make us vulnerable to manipulation. It encourages us to deal with our traumas and develop our intuition to better understand ourselves and the world around us.
➡ The text discusses the importance of personal connection to spirituality, whether through prayer or meditation, and criticizes religious doctrines that limit this personal connection. It also discusses the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in society, suggesting that while AI can automate facts and details, it cannot replicate human creativity, intuition, or connection to the divine. The text suggests that as AI takes over more tasks, human qualities like creativity and spirituality will become more valued.
➡ The text emphasizes the importance of taking personal responsibility for our own growth in all aspects of life. It suggests that we shouldn’t let our minds be trapped, but instead, we should free ourselves and take control of our lives. The speaker appreciates the conversation and encourages people to follow the person they’re speaking with, who offers guidance and different perspectives. The person also has a website and works with individuals, including children and adults, on a one-on-one basis.

Because my family thought it was all demonic. I tried to shut it down and boy did I get myself into a world of trouble ignoring my intuition. So I finally figured out that that intuition, that nagging voice, was actually the truth. And as long as I listen, I will end up where I need to end up and not be adrift. So I think, I think that was just a kindness so that I managed to hang around for this long. A quick break to share with you this wonderful product called Masterpiece. It is proven to taking out graphene oxide, aluminums, heavy metals, microplastics.

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And I always say in my presentations when anybody or this the topic comes up that the whole big idea behind Jesus was how do you maximize everyone to flourish. And if you put your ideas or something you’re doing through that filter and it doesn’t come out positive, then possibly it’s not the right thing to do. Right? And I think that is what his message was about. So we’re going to talk about that, but we’re also going to talk about intuition and human development and thriving. And I think you’re going to enjoy this conversation. I did. It was one, it was one I needed and I hopefully you will find it beneficial to you as well.

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Yeah, it’s such a pleasure to have you on. You are just delightful in how you think and what you’re interested in and how much of an expert you are. I have been talking to, as you know, experts from all over the world and all sorts of different. I look for the smartest people I can find who are kind of on the edge of change and human development. And I think that really matches what you are striving for. And how do you, before we got get into this, can you give the listeners just a brief background of who you are and what you do? Absolutely.

So I am a naturopath and energetic healer. And the story of how I got there is a long one. But the briefest way I can put it is I grew up in a deeply religious family. One son side was fundamentalist Protestant, the other side fundamentalist Catholic, both absolutely vying for my allegiance from the moment I was born. And I was a very strange child who was seeing angels and hearing the voices of the divine and had no idea it was unusual until I shared that with my family, who then told me that I must be of the devil.

So things got pretty rough. But ultimately it taught me so much though, because I learned I had to stand on my own intuition and my own inner guidance to survive. And so later in life, like with COVID for example, or anything else that’s Come out. It’s made it so much easier for me to be able to very clearly see the truth and not be bothered by all of these external narratives that would really seek to manipulate people. And then beyond that, I take care of people. I have a healing practice. I also practice at a naturopathic clinic.

And I just really love to help. It’s my passion. Well, I feel very much like what you just said now. I didn’t hear angels and things when I was growing up. I think that would have been extremely hard to. Being in a very fundamentalist environment. I want to talk a little bit more about that. But I do know that there’s been times, especially at the beginning of COVID where I just knew what the truth was. I don’t know why. I don’t know. I mean, I do know why, but especially after the fact. But I didn’t know why at the beginning.

I just knew. And everything came out. Every investigation, every piece of information, I researched. And I put this documentary together that still holds today in like two hours. And it was like a 12, 15 minute documentary. I just. It poured out of me. So I really understand where you’re coming from. There’s a knowing almost sometimes, right? Absolutely. And I love your story because I find I have the same experience. When something is divine truth and resonates and needs to come forward. It’s almost effortless. I had that experience with my book, a book I didn’t know I was supposed to write until my guide said, okay, write it.

And I didn’t even have any idea what I was doing. And it just flowed out of me in three days. So I know what you mean. And I call it channeling. Yeah, it was strange. I look back on it, I’m like. I was. I was one with it. Almost like I just. And it was all accurate still. I mean, it’s proving out right. And. And so that’s why I resonate so much with what you’re saying right now. On. On that now, when you were what? The other thing is, is when I bring on. What I’ve come to realize is that there’s something more.

Right. That there’s human potential that we’re just starting to tap into. I. I believe science and spirituality is not separate. I think science is just the exploration of what is. And if something is, then eventually science will catch up to it. Or we just don’t have the tool sets to. To understand it yet. I think quantum physics is the beginning of us starting to understand or put some, you know, parameters around our understanding. Of maybe the spirituality and this intuitive thing that you have. And. And when I bring on, like remote viewers or psychics or people who have this uncanny ability, I get a lot of very angry people in my comments and messages and stuff.

What is that? Well, speaking from my experience growing up with fundamentalists who truly saw the world through the lens of their doctrine, I’ll be as gentle as I can, honestly. My family used religion to hide from their pain. They had intense amounts of trauma that they had never dealt with. And for some of them, I’m not sure if it was because they were unwilling, whether it was too much, they didn’t have the tools that wasn’t supported for whatever reason, they lived their whole lives and never dealt with that trauma. And they found a way to essentially hide from having to do that and taking that responsibility through religion.

And I’m not maligning religion. I think in some cases it can be wonderful for people. However, I think when it or anything is used as a tool to avoid dealing with what needs to be dealt with, you end up becoming very territorial about the thing that has protected you. Like my family was not okay with me having friends outside of their beliefs or leaving home or certainly not marry outside of their beliefs. Who. That didn’t go well. And it. Instead of seeing me as a separate being with her own beliefs, intuition, understanding of the world, they were quite offended and took it as a personal challenge to their beliefs, if I thought differently.

And so I’m guessing there’s an element of that showing up in the commenters, because if you have been taught, first of all, that these things don’t exist, or like my family said, it’s actually demonic instead of divine, and you’ve never explored your own beliefs and what’s behind them for whatever reason. It’s very scary when people come on and have this completely different experience. And I think it’s even harder if you don’t seem crazy, right? If you come off as. As unhinged, it’s much easier to dismiss. But we’re living in a time where so much is coming to the surface.

The light really is finally shining on all these areas of darkness that have been hidden or taboo or what have you for generations. So I think for those who have not explored these ideas, it’s very frightening and very confronting, especially since I believe we all have these gifts. I think whether or not they’re able to surface is determined by our experience, how open we are to them, how we deal with trauma. But I really do believe that, that we all have these Abilities on some level. And, and when you. I can imagine what an incredible childhood you had in that kind of environment.

That’s why I say that I’m spiritual and not religious. And I, I always go back to the teachings of Jesus. I just say. I. I just say all it was, the big idea is, what I say is, is that it’s about how do you maximize everybody flourishing? And if you put it all through that filter, is your behavior maximizing the flourishing of every individual involved here? And if not, then perhaps you’re not following the true big idea of what this is all about. That’s beautiful. I love that you said that because I am always asking, okay, how do we create a world that works for everyone? So same idea.

And I completely agree with you. You and my questions on that topic were not well received as a child. I got kicked out of Sunday school a lot as a child because it’s the, the learning and the growing and the trying to figure it out. It’s the journey of it that, that forges you into really understanding what the teachings were always about. Yeah, honestly, it was difficult and it took me a lot of years of work to get past it because it was. It in and of itself was traumatic. And it led to experiences that were far more so because I didn’t know who I was.

Well, that’s not actually how I’d put it. Somewhere inside, I knew who I was, but the entire external world around me was reflecting back something else. So it was very confusing for a very long time. And it took me a while to figure out out what was real and true for me and then to be able to stand in that. But all of it has made me such a better mom than I would have been otherwise. And so I’m grateful for it now. The friction has polished you, right? Yes. That’s a beautiful way to say it.

So has your family come around? No, actually, it’s only gotten worse, which is kind of funny to me because I spent a couple decades doing all of this very deep trauma work, learning how to transmute energy, learning how to really find my voice. And when I finally came into, I call it alignment, where you know you are exactly where you are meant to be. You are doing what you came to this world to do and being of the greatest service you can be. And that’s when I actually opened the door and tried to reach out to them again, thinking, okay, I’ve done my work.

I think this will be better received now. And that door got slammed in my face and I was surprised because that’s not how I thought it would go. But I was actually grateful because I came to realize that chapter of my life served a huge purpose for me. I mean, talk about forged in fire. It really made me who I am. But I don’t need that narrative anymore, so it’s okay. But they’re not a part of my life. Well, you have to be extremely strong to handle that. And that gets back to the teachings of Jesus, you know, was always about the flourish, I believe, about love and maximizing flourishing.

And there’s something about that fundamentalist lifestyle where they miss the big idea and, and people suffer in those environments. Do you think that there has been a structure put around it that confines their ability to grow and flourish and have them that. I mean, it’s a love that they’re missing, really. Yeah, I do. And I think that’s such a multi layered question because there is the physical earth element of that. Where I do believe, especially post Covid, that these religious structures have been operating almost like a business because of course, so many of them, we found out, were paid certain amounts of money to give their congregation certain messaging, especially around vaccines and masking, and who were more than happy to turn people away in their time of greatest need.

And this is all the complete antithesis of everything that I was taught as a child religion was supposed to be. So on the physical plane, yes, I think a lot and maybe not all, I’m certainly not asserting that, but a lot of organized religion has unfortunately been co opted by the darkness to become another militarized or at least weaponized branch of this narrative we’re being fed that we can’t think for ourselves or operate for ourselves. And then on the spiritual level, I think at this point everyone coming onto earth has so many generations of trauma preceding them, usually unresolved trauma, that by the time we get here and we experience our own trauma, we are essentially in paralysis, we are in fight or flight.

And those are not tools that are handed out at school. Right. You have to go and seek out the tools to deal with that. You have to seek out meditation, transmutation, healing, whatever. You know, the different things speak to different people. But it’s a journey that we each have to go on for ourselves. And for most, maybe not most anymore, for a lot of people it’s too much, it’s too scary. And like you were saying earlier about some of the commenters who are very affected and thrown off by this type of conversation, I think they have been taught that rather than the metaphysical being a new way to experience humanity or the divine or each other, or find out who we really are, or move into areas where we actually have more power than we think we do.

There’s this pervasive narrative that, oh, it’s evil, oh, it’s demonic, don’t go, don’t go there. It’s like a Ouija board. You don’t even want to open the door. And so a lot of people now have this knee jerk reaction that it’s, it’s darkness when the reality is it’s the way back to the light. But for so many, that conversation is really uncomfortable. I would argue that when Jesus came the first time, the only time, I don’t know, whatever you believe, that it was to help people understand the same dilemmas that we’re dealing with today. This darkness, to open your mind, your heart to think differently.

And I think a lot of that is lost in the current with the whole structure that you’re talking about here. You know, with Christmas coming up, it’s not a bad thing for us to talk about what the true intent of what I believe it is and what I think I was taught. When I was younger. I think I was very fortunate to have some people that were more open to different ideas about what this was all about. It wasn’t, I don’t think it was different. It was actually trying to truly understand what his messages were. I think it’s something that people are reclaiming.

Yeah, I do too. And I’ve come to believe when I was a kid, I read many versions of the Bible because since the two sides of my family were of different faiths, they were always slipping me Bibles and kidnapping me off to their Sunday school and trying to get me to believe their version. So I ended up reading and researching quite a bit in an effort to understand what was happening because I really thought I must be missing something. They were so soon devoted. I really thought, okay, there’s, there’s something I’m not understanding. But in the course of all that study and then growing up and dealing with my own trauma, I’ve come to believe that the second coming referenced in the Bible is actually a consciousness.

I think it’s not Christ himself, it’s the Christ consciousness. And I think we’re here. We together, those of us who love humanity and want to see light restored and want to create this world that works for everyone. I think we are the consciousness. And I think it’s our job to enroll as many as possible and, and really return back to loving each other and honoring Humanity. Yeah, I believe that way too. And, and it makes sense from a. A scientific way too. I’m a scientist, but I’m also a very spiritual. And I think it makes sense that way because once you have enough people thinking in a certain direction, it changes the consciousness around you and the vibration of the world goes up and we end up being a more loving, caring society.

Absolutely. I agree. So when you were little and you were hearing we were seeing different angels or what were you actually experiencing? So I heard things very, very often. I saw things sometimes, but from as, as long as I can remember, I heard voices. And I’m not even sure why I assumed there were angels because I was little, but I knew that they were there to keep me safe. And there were many times where the voices would speak and I would hear them audibly and they would tell me things. And a few times it saved my life.

There are a couple of stories I tell in my book, but the short versions are that there were times where I was about to be attacked and the voices brought my attention to something that I hadn’t noticed and got me out of there. There were other times they prevented me from walking into a place. Once it was a place that was then held up at gunpoint. Another time it was a place where a young girl was sexually assaulted. Just. They’ve kept me safe all my life. And I didn’t have a family that did that. I felt very alone as a child, so it didn’t seem strange to me to rely on them.

And I assumed everybody had them and maybe everybody does. Just I could hear them. But there were times when I saw things mostly, mostly just light. It often was shapeless. A couple times it was a little more than that. And a couple times I thought I was talking to an actual human being that then vanished. So I can only assume what happened there. But by and large, it was always voices. And there were beings that came into my consciousness all the time and identified themselves and were always with me. One of them was Mary Magdalene and one of them was Archangel Michael.

And they’ve been with me my whole life. But to some people, this sounds really strange. My family thought I had a brain tumor. Just a short break to share with you an amazing peptide. This one is GHK cu. This is one of the best anti aging peptides on the market, period. As far as what they’re finding. This comes in a spray, a nasal spray. It comes in an injectable. And why I like this so much is it also comes in a capsule form. So this is a really great option for you. If you do not want the injection I use the injectable.

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And he said that that he ended up he believed it was Mary Magdalene and that she was whether it was or not, this was the message he felt like he got that she was wanted to correct her story and that the story was is that she didn’t walk behind Jesus, that they walked equal and they were equals and that they wanted they were trying to send a message her message and it’s time for her story to get out there. And it was a story of love and gets back to my maximizing everyone flourishing concept. And he really wanted to tell me this story and it’s on my sub stack and it’s interesting that you said that she talks to you.

Is that consistent with anything that what he said consistent with some of the things that you have said sense? Absolutely. Absolutely. I so the other way that I see things is I’ve had visions my whole life and from the time I was very little she showed me her relationship with Jesus and I didn’t even know who they were at the time. I was a little kid and then it wasn’t until I started growing up and asking more questions that I realized what I was seeing. But yes, that’s my understanding as well is that they were partners in the true and lowest sense they were a divine partnership.

And I think part of what they were trying to do that first time around was rebalance the Divine Masculine and the Divine Feminine because energetically, we very much need both. This idea that one one gender has more importance or weight or talent or intelligence than the other is yet another construct fed to us by the darkness to try and confuse matters and create disorientation. And she had been sharing with me since I was a little girl that that’s part of my job, is to rebalance and re anchor the Divine Feminine on this plane. And when I met my husband, I understood some of the things she had told me about my future partner, because it’s very clear to me that he is here to help rebalance and re anchor the Divine Masculine on this plane.

And what does that mean, to anchor the Divine Feminine and the Divine Masculine? Because I think people get triggered with the Divine Feminine. You know, like, you guys are just a bunch of Nazi feminists versus no, this gets back to the maximizing, flourishing concept and, and that we are out of balance. But what do you see specifically so that people can get past this triggering and realizes, no, it’s not women taking over and wanting to dominate, because that’s all we live through is the domination, the other direction. So people only see things through the lens of domination.

I think, yeah, I completely understand that narrative. And it’s important for people to understand that that was done deliberately. The, the oppression of the Divine Feminine, which happened very, very long time ago, that was done deliberately. And then what’s happening now is the backlash right there, this sense of over correction where women are angry. And I think that’s where this, this feminazi idea comes from. And it is happening in some places. But what people don’t realize is that the Divine Masculine has been horribly abused as well. Men who are alive today, well, at least in their current incarnation, depending on what you believe, they had nothing to do with creating this.

I hear it referred to as toxic masculinity, but I reject that characterization, honestly. I think that’s just, that’s just part of this narrative that loves to create infighting and hatred between people. But masculinity has been treated as poorly as femininity in a lot of ways. And now there’s been so many generations of terribly traumatized people that the men of the world are carrying easily as much trauma as the women. It looks different, right? But I’m going to use my sweet husband as an example. He is easily the most masculine human I’ve ever met. But Unlike all of the men that I grew up with and around my family and family friends, he is incredibly kind and patient and gentle and generous and a loving husband, a loving father he helps.

He doesn’t have these ideas that certain things are only women’s work or that certain things are only men’s work. At the same time, he is never driven by this narrative that’s being peddled to us, that women have to be able to do everything men do because they’re the same. No, we’re not. Just like men are not the same as women. I, I, I feel like all these narratives have been put in place to pull us away from our individuality and who we are, man or woman, at a soul level. Because we each have gifts, we each have talents, we each have specific reasons and I believe a soul contract.

We come here to do certain things. So all of this identity nonsense, whether it’s about man, woman, black, white, this religion, that, all of that is actually designed to pull people off center and keep you from finding out who you really are, because humans are incredibly powerful creator beings. And everything we have been told now for a couple thousand years is, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, you can’t do that. You need to be told what to do. You’re going to think what we tell you to think, and you’re going to do what we tell you to do and you’re going to like it.

And the truth is, if we all figure out that all these labels are nonsense intended to pull us out of divine alignment, we’re going to be unstoppable and they’re going to be done. So for all those who are triggered by this masculine, feminine conversation, I invite you to try it on without all what they say on the news and the labels and all this nonsense, because that’s designed to actually hurt us, us to hurt humanity, throw all that off and approach it from a place of love and wanting everyone to have their best experience because it doesn’t have to be and never was supposed to be us versus them, whoever’s the us and whoever’s the them.

The only true consciousness is oneness. We actually are all sharing an energetic field. And so what affects one affects all sorts of. I tell people, don’t be such an easy target because they are trying to manipulate you and it’s for their benefit, not ours. Well, I love your character characterization of your husband, because I feel my husband is the same way. He’s the strongest person I know, yet kind, and doesn’t need to feel like he’s Always in charge and all that stuff. It just. While he is the strongest person, you know, it’s, it’s a day, it’s that balance.

The strongest masculine doesn’t feel a need to exert himself in that way. But yeah, right, I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s interesting. And the ones who feel a need to exert themselves that way probably aren’t the strong. I mean, it just doesn’t work that way. But who are they? Who are they that are trying to knock us out of our balance? That’s a good question. Some days I think I have a handle on it and then I learn more. So at the very least, the dark frequencies of the world have been successfully putting people into place in high levels of all of our institutions for years.

So at this point, I think most of them have risen to the upper ranks in medicine, law, education, health care, pretty much all the, the important systems we have that define how healthy we are, whether that is physically, mentally, emotionally or spiritually. And we were a bit slow to awaken. So we’ve let this go on for a really long time. And so now the very institutions that we are led to believe are here to protect us and do things for our own good are actually the people who are manipulating us for their own power and greed well beyond the earth plane.

I think this has origins and darkness that was established here quite a long time ago. That’s a large conversation. But to sum it up, I do believe the forces that are trying to hurt humanity are absolutely demonic. So now do you think that they’re aware of their own dark energy or do you think they’re a victim of it? That’s a good question. And I’ve asked myself that a thousand times too. And I think it depends on the individual. I think a lot of them, and I only say this because I’ve met so many at this point, I think a lot of them truly are not aware because the other problem with unresolved trauma is it makes you an easy target if you have, have soul level wounds in you, particularly if you’re dealing with a person or company or entity that can pick up on things like this.

And again, I think most of us, if not all of us can, it’s really easy to figure out how to manipulate you into a certain outcome. So wherever you are invested, you’re vulnerable. So people, most people are walking around walking wounded and they have no idea they’re being targeted by these narratives that are not coming from a place of light at all. Now above that, somebody has to be in charge. So I do think there are beings on this earth, just as I believe there are angels walking in human form, if you want to characterize them that way.

But beings of light who are here to help, I think there are beings of darkness who are here to hurt and know exactly what they’re doing. Can I name them? No, but I’ve encountered a few, and I know them when I see them or feel them. And you can feel. You can feel the energy coming from people. That’s one of your gifts, is you feel energy. I can feel energy. Probably not as good as you, because mine is not something that I can articulate in a way that’s so crystal clear. I just kind of can sense it and feel it.

But you’ve honed that skill, it sounds, it seems. Oh, thank you. You know, I think that gift was given to me early in service of my mission, because without it, I guarantee you, I’d be dead right now. I went down a very dark path for a very long time after my upbringing, and there’s no way I would have survived it without that ability to sense exactly what was coming at me. So I think my guides were kind enough to let me have that skill somewhat sharpened early on. But really after that, it was just trial and error because I went through a period where, because my family thought it was all demonic, I tried to shut it down.

And, boy, did I get myself into a world of trouble ignoring my intuition. So I finally figured out that that intuition, that nagging voice, was actually the truth. And as long as I listened to, I will end up where I need to end up and not be adrift. So I think. I think that was just a kindness so that I managed to hang around for this long. That’s kind of incredible, sir. How do people develop their own intuition? Because I think, like you, I believe that everybody, we’re born with it. Humans have this skill set, and.

But not everybody is tapped into it or attuned. To some people, it’s totally turned off. How do you develop that and. And enable it again or, you know, grow it? That’s a great question. There are a lot of ways. From experience, I have come to believe that by far the fastest and most effective way is to deal with your trauma. Because our traumas change the way we interact with the world. Right? Say, just. I’m going to ridiculously oversimplify it, but say a dog bites you when you’re five years old, it’s very likely that for the rest of your life, if you don’t deal with that experience, you’re going to be afraid of dogs, right? So we are all very much formed by our experience as kids.

And most of us never unravel those conversations we have, those fears, those limitations that we’ve put up. And so as we grow into adulthood, they become more pronounced and they quite literally dictate the course of our relationship, our parenting, our job choices. So the most powerful thing you can do to get back in touch with who you really are is deal with your trauma. And there are a lot of ways to do that. For me, I went on a long quest to try because I knew I had a lot of baggage, but I didn’t know what to do about it.

And in my family, we didn’t talk about things like that. So I tried everything I could find. I tried traditional therapy. I studied all the world religions, I traveled a lot. I did all the self help programs like Landmark and Avatar. And while I feel like I got wisdom, even if it was just a little chunk from everything I tried and sought out, it wasn’t until I worked with a really incredible healer. And I’ve worked with a lot of them. But this guy is just in a league of his own. And he really taught me how to get to the root of those trauma, and not just your own, the ancestral trauma, that intergenerational trauma that we all have from unresolved things in our lineage.

And he taught me how to transmute it and get it out of my experience. And when I finally learned how to do that, it was the first time I’d ever felt free in my whole life, like I could show up as who I really am. So that’s my first recommendation. But short of that, there are so many little things you can do. I know meditation is a dirty word for a lot of people, but I think that, right meditation, your mind and being and connecting yourself to your own thoughts and all these things. So I don’t know why that became a dirty word, but keep going.

I think. I think because it’s so powerful, I’ve had a lot of very religious friends tell me, oh, no, no, we’re taught to stay away from that. We don’t do that in our religion. And I think what kind of body of knowledge or belief would not want you to be in incredibly close touch with yourself and with God? Because that’s all meditation is. It’s being still enough to hear the voice of the divine. Whether that’s your own intuition or your guides or God or whatever you believe, that’s all meditation is so you can be, I mean, hold on, is it praying really supposed to be that idea too, that you sit and you pray and you’re, you’re calm and you’re connected to God? I mean, isn’t that what it was? I think that there’s a loss there of that understanding.

I agree. And that’s, that’s what it is. That’s what prayer is for me and that’s what I’ve taught my children. But when I was little, we would, we had a very formal dining table. We’d sit around the table every night and start with a prayer. And I once tried to say what was, what was in my heart to say, and I got yelled at and said, no, we only say the Lord’s Prayer before dinner. And even then I had, I was thinking the same things you’re saying right now. Like, wait a minute, isn’t, isn’t this where we’re supposed to be expressing our gratitude and our love and our, the fellowship of being with my, my family? But no, they very quickly put boundaries and limitations on there and shut down any sense of individuality.

And I see that all over the place with religion because yes, I believe that’s what prayer is and it’s supposed to be and was conceived to be. But now we have all of these, if you’ll forgive me for saying so, these man made ideologies telling people how to connect to the divine. And to me, that’s crazy because only you know what works for you. You right. Only you know what is right for you and what, what is true for you. So I think whether it’s prayer or meditation or any of these other scary words, these are terms that have been hijacked by organized bodies of thought that are trying to get people farther away from who they are so that they don’t remember their power and frankly rise up against the darkness that is looming right now.

Now. Well, I don’t even know if they realize they’re doing that, but I always say that. And I don’t say this publicly, but I’m going to now. Is that you that Christians aren’t following Christ if you’re actually doing that? Because they’re not. That’s not what he taught. I agree completely and I’m. That, I know that’s, that’s a tough thing to say out loud, but it’s absolutely the truth. And I feel the same way. And I’ve gotten into a lot of difficult conversations with people who were raised very faithfully with these certain doctrines. And I, I Try to explain to them.

At least from my perspective, you can believe whatever you want to believe. However, doctrine should have no bearing on how you show up and treat your fellow human beings. I mean, if I have a dear friend. Teachings, right? You’re ignoring the teachings. Yes. Or of Jesus. I mean, you’re Christians, so that’s Christ, right? Jesus. You’re ignoring his teachings in order to treat people bad because it doesn’t belong with the scripture, which isn’t really what Jesus said anyways. But keep going. No, yeah, that’s perfect. I completely agree. One of the. I’m not big on the social media, but a friend sent me a very funny meme once and it said from Jesus, Buddha, God, and it listed several other deities from several other religions and it said in quotes, I never effing said that and I was dying.

Forgive me, but that’s, that’s exactly how I feel. We, we, we were not there. First of all, it’s, it is not a loving thing to make someone else feel guilty because you don’t share their, their same exact beliefs. But it’s, to me, it’s truly dark to try to use the word of God to manipulate and harm a fellow being. That is way outside the bounds of what I believe Jesus was about and why he came to try to set things straight. So. And I think there was many people that came to set things straight. But you know, AI let’s look at AI for all the dangers that AI has because I do think that there’s some, some serious things that we need, adults in the room need to come together and actually look at what is it that we’re trying to do with these things.

But the other flip side of that is it does give us an opportunity to, with AI automating facts and you know, details that, that we didn’t have before, you know, having an encyclopedia on your, your fingertips. It started, you start to value other traits of humanity and the development of the spiritual side and the intuitive side and all these other gifts that we’ve let lay dormant suddenly will become more important or more value. Not important, but more value. It’s almost like a new era and age is coming in, in, you know, in parallel to this AI environment where what we are different than the AI is, is that we have these capabilities and I believe they will be valued more and we will start, the science will start really looking at this and what this is all about.

Do you agree with that or not? You know, I love that perspective first of all, because that sometimes I, I worry so much about a society that looks like it is continuing to value scientific, mathematical intelligence above all other types of intelligence. When I believe that spiritual emotional intelligence is actually the primary, strongest, most powerful type of intellect we have as humans. But I love what you just said because you’re right, I’ve seen so because I have kids, often I look at things through the context of what children are doing and what families are doing. And I’m seeing so many kids, especially kids who are a part of the public education system, lean on AI to do their thinking for them.

They are using it even to create art, which I maintain is a human creativity and love and beauty. Those are things that machines will never be able to understand, no matter how intelligent they become. But I really like what you said because you’re right. I’m hoping that as this conversation unfolds, people will realize that there are things that computers will never be able to replicate. And what makes humans special is our capacity for empathy and compassion and love. And so actually, you just really gave me something to think about. Thank you. I think I’d been a little bit too down about the prospects of AI, but I really like what you said.

Well, I, I pretty much almost have a mathematics degree. Right. And I have come to the conclusion that, that the best mathematicians are artists. Really. I, I think that some of the best people anywhere at the edge of any field, because that’s what I like to do. I like to look at the edge of change. And at the edge of change, it’s all about creativity. And then you take these creative thoughts and then you try to put a construct around those creative thoughts. Thoughts. And an AI system can never create those new thoughts. It can put a, help you put a construct around new thoughts.

It can synthesize all the thoughts that are out there, but it can’t create new ones. And that comes from human creativity and, you know, the advancement of our knowledge. But that’s why I say the, what we value will start to change because it won’t be the synthesis of facts. It will be the creative of new creativity of new knowledge and the quest for looking at things in novel and different ways. And that also, you know, AI can’t do intuitive and, and, and connect to the divine. It can’t do any of that. And so that’s why I think human, we’re at the cusp of a new age of, of exploring and going into a whole nother area of what we value, because what we valued in the past isn’t going to be valued into the future because machines can do it.

I love that you’re so right. And I feel like I’m constantly harping on the fact that we really need humans to stand up and be who they are. So without their trauma, without external influences, we need everybody to really give the gift of who they are at a soul level. And I hadn’t considered that AI might actually do us a favor in that respect. So, yeah, you’re. You’re so right. Because it’s only a matter of time before people realize not only can that not be replicated, we have to do the heavy lifting ourselves. There is no shortcut.

Whether it’s dealing with childhood trauma or unlearning destructive habits or whatever it is, we each have to do that ourselves. We have to take personal responsibility for our growth trajectory, whether it is emotional, spiritual, physical or mental. So thank you. You really shifted my perspective today. It’s a different perspective, but I mean, not that we. It couldn’t be used as a cage, a mental cage. It’s just we need the adults in the room to ensure that it’s not. Yeah, well, I was assuming that that was its intention. And I do think that. I think a quick Google search will prove that, is that they did intend for it to be a cage.

But you’re so right in that it doesn’t have to be. We need to jailbreak ourselves and take responsibility for what we allow. You’re absolutely right. Right. Well, this is a fun conversation. And. And I see. I just think it’s. Think everything is a tool in our. In our, you know, toolbox. And we have to say, okay, we take control of it, we define what it’s going to be and then we. How do we build on it? But I love this conversation. I think you’re an amazing person and I think people should follow you. And I. I’m to trying just.

I love this kind. I have to have you back. I think we could explore all sorts of different things over the next year and especially as humanity really grows. I think you have a place to fill in this world in that way and helping to shape how we think about some of this stuff. And we just need more people looking at it from different perspectives. Where can people follow you? You have a new book out too, don’t you? Actually, this one’s been out for a couple years. I’ve shifted my writing platform over to my substack, so that’s what really has my heart these days.

So I have a website where you can follow all of everything that I’m doing in my appearances, my events, it’s just my name. Briannalattopo.com and then I do actually work with people one on one, mostly children, but I work with adults as well. So if anyone is interested in that, please reach out. But thank you so much for all the kind things you said. This has really been my honor. I love having soul conversations with just beautiful hearts. So thank you so much for having me. Thank you Brianna. I really appreciate it. And you have wonderful holidays, Christmas, whatever you celebrate.

I know you celebrate Christmas coming up and have great time with your family. Thank you so much. You as well. Sa. Sam.
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