CDC Lawsuit Genome Sequencing and Automated Medical Doctors w/ Dr. Nick and Leah Wilson

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Just for Sarah Westall listeners. Okay, go to sarahwestall.com Miles Franklin and fill out that form and get access to the private price list. Okay, back to the program. Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have Leah Wilson, who’s an attorney and then I have her husband Nick Wilson. He’s a doctor. So Dr. Nick Wilson coming to the program. We’re going to be talking about their landmark CDC lawsuit against CDC and why they’re doing it, but we get into some topics. First time I really, really talked about what happened with my mom and the cancer situation.

I talked about a little bit on my substack. Well, not. I wrote some articles on it and what happened, but I get into. And if you want to see that and kind of get a background on that, you go to Sarah Westall substack.com and you can hear about my story with that. But I. I share a little bit more. It’s kind of an emotional thing of me sharing my mom’s story. And I think they really appreciated it because my story, our story, our family story, is what people across the country are experiencing. I can’t tell you how many people, after I wrote these substack articles, reached out to me.

I had hundreds of people reach out to me. So many people with the same story of how they had to deal with the same crap that I had to deal with or that my mom had to deal with. And I got to tell you that, you know, my sisters are in healthcare and they live across the country. I lived with them. So I was the one, when you hear some of this, put that in context. I was the one dealing with it because I was living here with them and my. Some of my other family members are.

Were across the country and didn’t have that close relationship until they flew in at the end and everything went so fast. So just put. Keep that in perspective when you question, like, well, why didn’t they know? It’s because of that. That the situation was the way it was and why I had it all kind of landed on me during that. That period. And I really wish I would have known more. You can hear my story during, during this. It was. Was such a good opportunity to discuss it and with people who are fighting the system. And, you know, I talk about how being outside the system, things are just so obvious.

And a lot of the changes happen from outside the system because people are like, this is just so obvious to us. Why isn’t it obvious to you? And I think we’re seeing a sea change. I think Covid really ushered in a sea change where so many people got to see it from the inside. And we talk about that as well. Also got to say, you know, the whole world, and I’ve been talking about this for a while, that the entire structure of the world has changed. You know, the big, the market caps, the largest company is all big tech.

Done many conference presentations now for the last four year, five years on the fact that the entire structure of the world has changed, but our structure, our governance structure has not. We still have the same people that don’t understand tech at all. And they’re the, you know, we have a bunch of attorneys and we have other people who just don’t understand what it is that they’re governing and why the world is changing so quickly around them. They literally are being manipulated because they don’t know enough. And now. And we also have some journalists, now independent journalists, who are trying to share the information, but to be honest, they’re reading books and talking about what people said 30, 40 years ago and explaining what’s going on today because of what people said 30, 40 years ago.

And then putting it all in that context, which although it provides better than the not doing it, it provides a great basis of. From a political standpoint. But they too don’t really get what’s going on because they haven’t been in the big tech environment. You know, I had Aaron Day on saying he saw, he identified 15 different applications that were already tracking and tracing our digital money. Like that is exactly my point of what I’m trying to explain to people is that it’s a deeper issue, it’s a more complex issue, and that the issue stems from the fact that the governance of this country is still governing it like it was 25 years ago and hasn’t caught up to the new reality of the change in the structure of the world.

That’s the basic problem that we’re dealing with. And so we are going to have these problems until we start to understand that things have changed. The structure of the world has changed. The way everything’s being managed has changed. Until we catch up to that and the governance actually reflects that, we’re sitting ducks. And that’s why I’ve been talking about it for five years. The structure of the world has changed, and we need to change too. No longer is it the big oil companies that are on the largest companies. No longer is it even health care. No health care.

I don’t know if it was ever on test. But finance, Finance probably is still the central bankers because that’s behind the big tech. But. And they’re not really evaluated from a market cap standpoint, the central banks, but they’re always the ones behind the funding of all this stuff, so that doesn’t go away. But my point is, is that we need to just be smarter in how we understand how the structure of the world is structured. And so part of that is understanding that healthcare. And my guests today are gonna talk about how we’re moving to an AI plug and play automatic automated system.

Which is exactly the point. We can’t get ourselves into this dumbed down automated environment which, and I gotta say we, when, when my mom was sick, I could already tell that these, these oncologists, their jobs were already automated. They don’t even know they go to school for 10 years and they’re just a cog in this automated system. They don’t realize that everything they’re doing is being directed by a system around them that’s pretty much already automated. And they, they aren’t astute enough. Especially the young ones, the older ones that get out and say this isn’t what I want to be part of.

They saw the change happen through their career. But these young ones are coming out not understanding what they’re part of. If they’re in, they’ve been trained to be part of that. So hope you enjoyed this conversation. It is pretty intense. It was intense for me. And there’s a lot of good information that they will, they can give you, especially with their CDC lawsuit. I want you to hear that and maybe you can participate, learn more about it. Sign up for their newsletter so you can get updates on what’s happening. I’ll have the link, it’s in the video.

And also below you can also get their book as well. It’s called Reclaim A Guide to Exit Conventional Medicine and Live Naturally. And they give, they give you a lot of good information to help you make better decisions on your own health care. It’s another source. I mean we can’t just have one data source when we’re making important decisions for our family. So I’ll have the link below to that as well. Okay, before I get into this, I want to remind you I had a peptide webinar with Dr. Diane Kayser on Peptides and that already aired.

But you can see the replay. It’s now up on my substack at Sarah Westall that substack.com or you can go to sarahwestsell.com and you can see it there as well. Just look for. You can search for the peptide webinar. This is the second one that I did. So you can see both of them with Dr. Diane Kaiser. And it’s taking the world by storm as people are realizing that these things actually work. And I got to say one thing, it’s so dumb. The Gula monster venom in Peptides is such bs. I hope to God that you can think through this.

I think it’s a psyop. I mean I don’t. Because let me explain this real quick before we get into this interview. The Gila monster Venom has over 50 different active ingredients or ingredients in it. What happened is that one of the actives that were in it was what was originally found to help with the GLP one in our body. And it was just one of the 50, there’s so many. And so they isolated it. Then they realized that that was naturally occurring in our body and that was the initial GLP1s of what wasn’t even ozempic and wegovy.

Now it was pre that. And then they realized we had it in our own body. Then they synthesized human GLP1s, which is what you’re getting now. But when they say there’s Gangula monster venom in these peptides, it’s such a misunderstanding of science. It’s absolutely incredible. It makes the whole thing look absurd and stupid. And I hope you can, I just hope you understand this because I still get these, these, I think they’re bots or something saying that I’m so bad because I’m promoting something that has snake venom in it. And actually a gila is a, is a lizard, but you, I think it’s pronounced Gila.

It’s G I L A. I read it a lot. I never hear it. But anyways, it’s so dumb. So please take the time to understand what they’re saying and why you’re being manipulated if you think it’s dangerous because of that. It’s so dumb. And actually in the field of science where people understand, they actually laugh about it and think it’s a joke because it is so dumb. The problem is that it’s a real psyop or something that’s happening. Please don’t get sucked into that. Understand the basics behind that because I’m getting tired of having emails and comments.

I, I, I’m thinking that the emails and comments themselves are bots and part of the psyop. I don’t. Because I just can’t imagine so many people have been have been caught up into this and actually believe it. But anyways, I want to remind you the webinar is up there at Sarah Weissel substack.com okay, let’s get into this wonderful conversation that I have with Leah and Nick Wilson. Hi Leah, Nick. Welcome to the program. Hi, great to be here. Thanks for having us. You guys have this amazing lawsuit going against the CDC that is a landmark situation that people need to understand what is actually occurring.

So many people are in the dark on what’s really happening and how fast this stuff is progressing. But before we get into that, can you both talk about your background, which is pretty extensive, so people understand how you got to this point where you’re the one suing the cdc. Can we start with you, Leah? Yeah, absolutely. So it’s kind of a interesting road. We couldn’t have written the story ourselves, but I started out in complex litigation as an attorney, antitrust law, construction law. But we’ve always had or been in natural health together. Nick is a chiropractor, and we have a natural health clinic.

And we’ve been educating patients for over a decade. And in 2000, 2018, we were kind of at a crossroads because we were foster parents for children here in the state of Indiana. And at that point in time, we were ready to take our next foster kid into our home. And the state of Indiana said, okay, Wilson’s, you’re no longer eligible to be foster parents because of your kids. My biological. Our biological son’s vaccine status. And we said, wait, what changed since our last foster care placement? Like, I’ll resend you the religious exemption. It’ll be fine. Everything’s good.

And they said, no, we’re now reading an existing Indiana regulation to mean that unvaccinated status makes the child a threat to the welfare of the foster child. And I said, well, show me what’s changed. Like, what new law? What new science? How does this make sense to deny these children a safe and loving home and let them sleep on the floor at the Department of Child Welfare, based on my bio kids vaccine status, these healthy boys, and they couldn’t come up with anything. But it was an absolute closed door. And so at that time, we looked at each other and said, how do we shine enough light so that these bad public health policies cannot affect kids this way? You know, denying homes to kids in need based on nonsense.

And we wanted to expose nonsense public health policies so that we could do better as individuals, as a state, as a nation. And so we started standing for health freedom to give people a voice on these types of issues. And since then, we’ve changed that policy. So in the state of Indiana, now you can foster children regardless of vaccine status, and 146 other policies that deal directly with health freedom and public health. And we’ve helped elect over 1200 elected officials that are pro health freedom, pro. Which means parental rights, privacy, free speech, you know, all those pillars of health freedom.

So here we are. We’ve written a book together now. We’ve written a book with health Freedom Institute, which is Stanford Health Freedom’s education arm, and just sounding the alarm on key battles ahead in doing the highest impact moves we know how to do as a grassroots movement. Well, I’m really interested in hearing about the CDC lawsuit. You know, what you have going. I am. And Nick, I want to get into your background as well, but I gotta say, and we need to address this today. I’ve spent some time with some people who are on the opposite side of this debate as far as with vaccines and things.

And I think there’s major hurdles as far as the open. The free speech debates are exceedingly important. And they want to shut down the free speech debates. And I think that is where the most critical juncture is. But I’ve been. I’ve been hearing other people, they are so adamant, and these are professionals in the. Who’ve been trained, who truly believe that if you take away these vaccines and you reintroduce smallpox, that this will really cause a lot of death. And I sat and listened to these. I just sit there silently listening. And there’s a huge hurdle of.

And that’s why free speech is so important, doing these debates and getting to the bottom of it. And I, you know, I’ve asked other doctors what their opinions are in researchers, and their biggest thing is too, we need to get these debates open so people can discuss it. But we also need to get to the core of these original studies that do not have placebo controls and aren’t necessarily well structured to show what’s really going on with these vaccines. And so I want you guys to talk about that so we can address it, because it’s really important.

I sat there in the last six weeks. I got a huge dose of a lot of this. So, Nick, can you talk about your background as well? Well, yeah. I mean, Sarah, what you’re talking about is the most important thing is having an open dialogue, an open debate about this. And that debate has been shut down for so long. I remember teaching about this, what, 12 years ago, we were having a workshop and people were so adamant that they just wanted the uncensored, unfiltered truth on this issue. And so just a small advertisement, all of a sudden the whole thing fills up because they knew that the information was being censored and that they didn’t have the full picture on some of these key diseases that they thought, are we going to reintroduce polio back into the world if we don’t vaccinate our kids? And thankfully, that shift, especially since COVID has really Woken people up to realize that, yeah, the information has been suppressed through Covid.

You couldn’t even use the word vaccine on any of your social posts or you’d be shut down. Our accounts got shut down multiple times. You still, I don’t think, can use it on YouTube if they, that’s a flagged word. And there’s unfortunately, there’s still the undertones of that censorship that, that exists. And so like we ex, we exist to break that mold and have the open, let’s have the open conversation, let’s debate it. And unfortunately, that invitation of let’s debate it has never been welcomed. It’s never debated on the public stage. That’s a hundred percent true.

And the thing is, is that the, the side that’s really for it believes. Trust me, I know because I just sat there and I didn’t, I was almost. It was such a strong belief that I was listening to them talk about it that I didn’t feel even comfortable talking because I didn’t have all the necessarily information on my fingertips to debate certain parts of it, right? So I just listened to them and it was good for me to hear that side because I’ve been on the freedom side for a long time and I’m like, okay, I need to understand this so that we can have real good debates around this issue.

And polio was one thing, you know, where that one’s a little bit easier that we can combat from the standpoint of, hey, let’s look at the real data. Because most of the, I could say this, most of the erasing of polio happened before the vaccine even came out. That was, it was Almost, you know, 99% of it was eradicated before the vaccine even came out. And then they took credit for that eradication. But then you start here they talk about smallpox. So it’s like every single, and every single vaccine has a different story behind it. And whether it’s legit or not, and that the intensity of their belief is so strong that it’ll hurt the population, that if they don’t censor you that the population is going to be damaged because you’re putting out misinformation that is going to harm the people.

I mean, that’s their viewpoint to the point where they are, they are so convinced that even having this information out there is going to harm people. What do you say to that? And I want to get into the CDC lawsuit, but just because I live through this, I want to. I mean, that’s the crux of it. And one of the biggest gifts of 2025 is that the scientific debates like you’re talking about are starting to happen. You’re seeing the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics disagree with each other, which that’ a gift. Because scientific consensus is not reality.

So when we look at these two bodies that have been trusted at the helm, that trickles down into all of our doctor’s offices disagreeing. It opens people’s eyes that there are options and we’ve been lied to and told there’s only one option, there’s only one way. And so to now be have permission as moms and as a society to disagree is a gift in and of itself with our patients and with our stand for health freedom AUDIENCE We’ve always taken the approach of informed consent. We don’t go toe to toe on science. That’s not really our wheelhouse because we believe that this comes down to God given rights which are constitutionally protected.

The discernment of the mother being a primary authority and then having all the information you need to make your decision. And ultimately, if, if we are the ones that are owning our own bodies, for lack of a better way to put it, then the government has no say in what we do or do not put into our bodies. Look at the uk, they don’t have vaccine mandates, but they have very high vaccination rates. So why wouldn’t we model that as a free country to say that no one has the position of telling you what to do with your body, but we give you all the information you need, we set public health policy and the individual decides.

And that’s really the side of history we want to be on is restoring the discernment to the individual and putting the power back in the hands of the people to be healthy and free. But isn’t that the important aspect of it is, and we have to learn from what happened. You know, the Nuremberg Code was put in place for a reason, because governments and powerful institutions historically have been behind agendas that were not good for you. And so mandating something across the entire populace where you don’t have a choice of what your own body does is setting us up for something really bad.

And so the whole point from the Nuremberg Code was making sure that you had control of what goes in your own body. Because historically governments and powerful institutions have abused their power over people. And there’s been so many examples that if we don’t put this into our rights, we are sitting ducks at some point. Well, that’s, I mean, that’s one of the reasons that we talk about this so much. And the name of our second book was the. Originally was the. The Shot Stories. And. And because each one of those shots has a story. But we see on a regular basis how the germ theory is weaponized against the people.

We saw it during COVID We’ve seen it with measles, we see it with chickenpox. And. And who’s to say it’s not going to happen with the next virus? And so we have to have this as a fundamental position where the government does not have say so on what I can put into my body as a choice. But we need the informed consent to be able to determine that. What I don’t understand is why wouldn’t. You know, I just went through this horrific situation with my mom and cancer, and it seems so obvious that you would prep the body for.

And actually my. My family, which has really good medical background. I know, good. But they got. My sister’s just amazing in her how she’s evolving with all of this as well. I think if they’re exposed to information, they change and, and if they’re having to deal with patients. I think most medical doctors who have to deal with patients have evolved quite a bit. But my sister didn’t lose a single patient during COVID I got a pat on the back for that. But it was obvious to them too, that you need to prep the body for the best conditions possible for fighting cancer.

My mom had cancer, but when we were dealing with the oncologist, it was like a foreign concept. It was. I couldn’t be more. More pissed off. They were used to that environment. I wasn’t. So I was like, I. I couldn’t even sit in the. In the room with her without just shaking. Right. And I had to do my best to control that. Luckily, other people were there with me because the. The ignorance of not understanding that you need to take care of. Make sure the body is completely prepped, you know, make sure she has the fluids, make sure she has her oxygen.

Make sure that every single thing you do from a dietary standpoint is now fighting the cancer. How. Make sure she’s oxygenated because that. Let’s say you’re going to do your immunotherapy or you’re going to do your chemo, because that’s just what they want. She wanted to do. But why wouldn’t you prep the body to be in the best state to be able to handle that? That was a foreign concept. That’s why I don’t understand why the. Why that is not Accepted. I mean, why would you even have to argue that? Right. Well. And they don’t know what to do with you.

When you buck the system, there’s a. There’s a certain standard of care. Could that be bucking the system, though? I mean, it’s like, so obvious, but go ahead. Yeah, I mean that. That you’re right. It is so obvious. To the person who believes that the body can be revitalized and the body was designed perfectly to heal from the inside out, needs no interference that whole. But not even that. Not to cut you off for a second. That is like, even theory. Not even that. Just making sure. We know that exercise and diet. I mean, we. We weren’t born yesterday.

We know that when our body’s healthy, we respond better. We know that people who ex. I mean, it’s not even a theoretical thing about the terrain. You don’t even have to get into all these. It’s just so obvious. Anyways. It should be. Well, it should be obvious. It should be obvious that good, healthy food is a positive thing. And sugary jello is probably not a good thing. When somebody’s going through cancer and somebody’s going through, you know, whatever treatment it is, whether it’s chemotherapy, radiation, it should be obvious, but unfortunately, it’s just not. It’s not. Well, and also that your body was in.

When it’s in ketosis is actively fighting the cancer cells, and when you’re not feeding it sugar, that’s actually feeding the can. I mean, it was just. I don’t know why that’s not obvious to somebody who has 10 years of training, you know, I mean, so for me, it was. I felt like I was walking into the dark ages of stupidity. When people claim to be educated, I mean, they’re brainwashed or something. I mean, how can you possibly have a doctor by your name and not know the basics? It’s like using the. The. What do you call it? Leeches to drain your blood.

It’s just so dumb. Yeah, it’s the old phlebotomy or bloodletting or whatever the archaic practices were. But that’s. We. We talk about the. The roots of why that is. Sarah. We talk about. In our book, we talk about Rockefeller medicine and how that’s really dictated allopathic care. And what we get now is what we call whack a mole. Health care is when a symptom pops up. We hit it with the. Like the old arcade game. You can picture it with the little moles that jump out of the thing and you have the hammer that’s padded, and you just whack the thing to go back down.

But unfortunately, when you do that, you suppress what the body’s trying to do innately. And we’re not having common sense in the matter if we’re doing that. And common sense would be like, what you’re talking about is, why don’t we position the body in its best possible way so that it can thrive through this treatment? If, even if we’re going to do chemo and radiation and whatever else that we’re going to choose to do, why don’t we get it as healthy as possible? It’s absent from this conversation. And I think what you’re describing. And I experienced the exact same thing.

I walked through cancer with my mom, that we lost her in December of 2019. And I thank God every day it wasn’t during COVID you know, that we weren’t sitting, we weren’t kicked out of her hospital room, and that we got to say goodbye to her in a humane way. But I was so intolerant of the lack of hope. And I think that’s maybe what you’re sensing, too, is the lack of hope, of healing. So we’re only preparing to cut, fire, burn, because that’s what they know to do. And I. I would get shaky also and be like, nick, you have to talk to my mom or dad.

You have to help make this decision. Because I was so intolerant of this doctor’s ability to completely shift my mother’s trajectory. And my mom would follow that doctor, even though she knew the truth about health, her mind would follow that doctor. And the day that doctor looked at her and said, there’s nothing else we can do. You have to go home and die, she believed him. You know, and so that’s the devastating part, is when we as daughters are intolerant of a lack of hope, but yet there’s a medical system that proudly delivers that message. Well, they deliver it with authority.

And they never said that you’re going to die. I just. It was just that. But they didn’t do it anything. They spent all their time testing and raking in the money doing nothing. And so everything that that was done was because I set it up. You know, I’m like, what the heck is this? And. And I think a lot of people across the country have experienced exactly what we’re talking about here. And in Covet, it was on steroids. So I think the country is prepped for a new way to say this. I don’t care. This I don’t care what you’re saying.

This is not right and it needs to be better. And that’s why I think the debates are happening and people are forcing it. And you know, the conversation, the one thing that I did say when I sat and listened to these really people who are really behind the vaccines is we need to get to the bottom of this healthcare issue and of the autism issue. And we cannot ignore the studies and not do the studies and then just claim the science of study is settled without actually using common sense and without doing good studies that are placebo controlled, that we actually have access to that aren’t changed.

You know, one thing that I was told is that medical schools used to teach that 70% of 70. They didn’t teach 70%. But they found my, a lot of the doctors found that about 70% even coming from the Lancet, that the studies were flawed, like fundamentally flawed so bad that you couldn’t even, you should just toss them out. And they were taught that in medical school. That was, you know, back when I was in school. Things have changed completely now where they’re not even taught to look at studies and question the studies anymore. Yeah, you get, you get a lot of industry influenced education is, is the challenge.

And what. So I want to distinguish something because there you have, you have people in healthcare in your family and I do too. And they’re good people and they’re trying to do the right thing. And when we talk about exit conventional medicine, we’re saying it with a capital M and capital M. Medicine is the practice of algorithm AI now based healthcare that is plug and play. And it’s not for the benefit of the patient, unfortunately for their outcome. And so that’s the whack a mole healthcare, that’s the prescription drug for just about every ailment. That’s the thing we’re talking about exit conventional, not exit good people trying to do good things.

I mean we have all those people in our lives and we want those people in our corners. But we have to recognize that what we’ve done up to this point has not worked well. I’m a systems engineer. So I walked in there going, your whole thing is, is automated. You’re just a cog in this automation. I’m like, and they can’t see that. They think they’ve been trained for 10 years. Like I could automate your, your job is already automated. You’re just like part of the process. Someone like me automated your job. You don’t even realize it.

Just think about when AI AI comes along, that is not going to get more. It’s going to be more of that and even, even replacing them more easily. And think about both, though. I think the attractiveness if you’re in the doctor’s position is it provides you a covering. If I know I’m following the world’s gold standard, then I can rest at night knowing I quote unquote, did my best to help that patient. You know, so that’s the covering they kind of come under with standard of care, but yet it’s hurting so many people and it’s the greatest act of censorship.

And that’s. I have a hard time with somebody with that claims to be an expert in a coat that, that is trusted. And then they refuse to understand the obvious common sense stuff. I mean, that to me is not being a good person. That to me is holding up a system that is not caring for. I, I got, I get to the point where I think that’s fraud. The, the insurance was, has been being paid. You’re getting paid a lot of money and you can’t even recognize the basics. You know, if you can’t recognize the basics, you don’t deserve to have a title of doctor behind your name.

That. Because the trust that your mother and my mother and. And you know, people like them that put in you because of your darn title, you don’t deserve, you haven’t earned your title. If you don’t understand these basic common sense stuff. I’m going to that point. This is ridiculous. Now there’s a difference between the people who are good people, like you’re talking about, whatever, like my sisters who are really, they, they’re. They’re like, I can’t stand this. I want it to be better. I want it to be now. They don’t agree with everything that. But they really want to do good science and good medicine and help people.

Right? There’s a difference. What do you say to that? Well, there’s a mass exodus of those people from traditional capital M medicine right now. That’s why so many of the. We get inquiries all the time of nurses and doctors who want to come work for us because they’re like, I can’t work in this hospital system anymore. I can’t. I can’t take this anymore. I want a different approach. I want to look for root causes of interference. I want to find out how to get this person healthy again. I don’t want to just, just plug and play with drugs.

And so there’s a mass excess of not just people who you know, in health care, but then people who are seeking out that type of health care, and thankfully, you know, a lot of people are waking up. But then what they. They. Most people that we talk to, they can only identify what they don’t want. They have a lot of difficulty identifying what they do want. They know they don’t want algorithm healthcare, they know they don’t want more drugs and more surgeries, but they don’t really have a good path of what they do want. And that’s where we come in and we try to help them as a vitality strategist to say, hey, let’s create a plan.

Let’s create a roadmap here to where we have an idea of direction and what you do want. Because if you look in the rear view mirror, only focusing on the thing you’re trying to avoid, you’re setting yourself up for a crash. So what do we, what do we, what do we, what are we marching towards? That’s right. And, and, and do the sciences and settle, for God’s sake. We need to figure this out and we need to actually, maybe a lot of these studies need to be redone because they were flawed and maybe flawed on purpose.

Maybe. I like to think that not everybody is bad, but if the studies are flawed, you got to redo them. And if there isn’t placebo controlled, you got to redo them. And if they’re set up so that you only get a certain subset of the population that you know is going to respond this way, and those are the only ones you use in the study as, as participants, that’s flawed too. We need to relook at what even studies we’ve done correct so that we can get a baseline that isn’t full of crap. And that’s one of the latest steps that has been taken in 2025 is to not only acknowledge that good studies were, that good studies were thrown out, but bad studies were kept in.

And it goes both ways. And so there’s a whole list of studies that are under review now to say why were these retracted and was this a part of the censorship? And I think exposing that to the public gives them a healthy skepticism of who are we trusting with our health? What are their beliefs about my health and my potential and my child’s potential. And let’s find out what the truth is about pursuing resilience as, as moms and a community. Quick break from the program to share with you something amazing. This is called Sloop. It’s actually s L U up 332, but it’s been shortened to Sloop and this thing mimics exercise.

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If you are interested in this, I will have a link below so you can try it yourself or go to sarah wessel.com under shop. Remember to use the code Sarah to save 10%. Well, and the truth is, is really all we’re getting at, right? We’re not saying anything more than just come on guys, you’re putting a roadblock in getting out the the actual truth of how we can thrive. You’re making it impossible for people to throw thrive and to flourish and to be healthy because of why, you know, like what are you doing? And that’s so obvious to the.

And sometimes it takes people outside the field to point these out, right? Like to me I’m just like, oh my God, it’s so obvious, right? And, and I like to say, you know, we all do want to know why. But at the end of the day we don’t have to assign intent to look at what’s happening to say that’s right, we don’t want to be a part of this and this is something that doesn’t serve me or my children well and we’re going to go a different route. And it’s hard to assign intent because there are those good people that are caught up, and then there’s the people who went in for the right reasons and got sold a bill of goods.

And so at the end of the day, it’s, where are we going? And what is the evidence that it’s a good path? Well. And the people who have the wrong intent will be completely left in the dust. Right. They will get what they deserve in the long run because they will be completely, completely isolated, and no one will want to have anything to do with them as. As the truth really comes out. That’s right. I wondered where you were going with that, that they would be, you know, we know the end of the story. Right. That they’ll be left in the dust.

Well, they have to be. Right? I mean, they have to. We have to stop this. But that means that we have to be true and authentic of what we’re trying to get accomplished. We can’t have alternative motives either. And we have to just. The goal is just to get to the truth and to flourish. And I’m sorry, I’m kind of dominating. You can tell. I’ve just went through an intense experience myself with really in and doing a ton of research myself. And, you know, my son said to me, he goes, mom, I feel like I know more than half the doctors now that they’ve.

Because he’s really into research, too. He goes, I feel like I know more than half the doctors that we’ve had to experience. I’m like, I feel that too, you know, like, get to that point. And the sad part is, is I didn’t. My. My biggest conflict is I don’t feel like I know enough. I wish I knew more because I knew more. If I knew more, she would have been in a better spot, right? That’s right. Maybe not. I mean, she has still her body. But even at me feeling that way, I still felt like I knew more than half of her doctors.

Yeah. How sad is that? How sad is that? It’s. It’s so sad. And I see this a lot. And what I mean by that is it’s really difficult to make logical decisions or rational decisions or even start learning when you’re right in the middle of it. So we see this a lot of times. People wait for the wheels to fall off of the bus, for them to wake up, and then say, I’ve got to take my health seriously. And then they start the discovery process, the learning process. And I find it’s really difficult then in that moment to Then try to navigate and weed through.

And now you’ve got white coats and people telling you one thing that’s very different from what you’re reading. And if it’s not a firm foundation and something that is established. I find people are in this indifference and it. And it really is a struggle for them. It’s why we wrote the book Reclaim Vitality is for that reason is to arm you so that before you get into that situation that you’re philosophically strong but you’re also armed with the tools and information to know how to navigate all the things that we just talked about. Cancer is a big part of the book.

Genetics is a huge part of the book of why your genes haven’t failed you. How BRCA 1 and BRCA 2. How there’s a long story that is not the story that people are told. And so if unless you are armed then all of a sudden you get that diagnosis or you get the prognosis and you just feel like a victim. But you can take are. I mean like, like in my mom’s case she had some swelling that created some blood clots and stuff that I didn’t know enough. Right. That’s what I’m talking about. But I think that it’s also.

And you probably saw this, you talked about your mom yourself is they trust the system. They’ve been taught to trust the system. So you’re not armed with helping somebody who’s still so mentally stuck in the system. It’s very difficult when censorship and marketing is so one sided that people that are in it just trust and they end up dying because they trust it. Yeah, yeah. It. We’ve been taught to trust the experts. And what you’re saying about knowing more than the doctors puts us back in the position of using experts as a tool in our tool belt.

You know that they are a resource and no one can do health for us. That’s right. They’re just like a consultant that you hire. My sister told me that years ago she was Sarah because it was with my son and he was having issues and she goes sarah, just like in business, they’re a consultant for you. You use them as a consultant and then you figure out what consultant you think knows the best and you operate just like you would that she put that. That was when I was young, in my mid-20s and she’s there. I’m the youngest sister and that put me in.

So it changed my trajectory as how I. How I see medicine. But most people don’t see it like that. It’s a dangerous place to be in. Even as a quote unquote expert and experts in our field, I don’t want people outsourcing their health. To me that’s, that’s like I don’t want that responsibility, that weight when I go to bed at night that, that, that all of their health and health care is on, on my back. And so I think it’s a disposition for all of us is okay for the quote unquote experts and also for the, the end user, the consumer.

It’s like, hang on, let’s use these people as what they are, as tools in our tool belt, as consultants, as experts that we can defer, we can not create entire deference to, but we can defer to on some level. You’re a chiropractor and I know during COVID there I, I’ve gotten to know some chiropractors. I have a really good place that we go to and it was kind of an oasis for me during COVID because we could sit and just talk and yeah. And go, oh my gosh, we saw these things. And I think that the holistic.

My daughter in law is getting a, she’s almost done getting her doctorate in chiropractic and it, I think that the, the world is going to start embracing the holistic care and realizing and this is what I’ve been telling her since she started, is the world changing and it’s going to start embracing holistic and a smarter way of, you know, looking at healthcare. And I think we’re seeing that now. Yeah, I love that you say that that was like an oasis because that was how people described our clinic during COVID even though we had the local health department breathing down our neck because you know, we, we, we, we weren’t abiding by their rules and, and they threatened to threaten, shut us down.

People would come just to sit in our lobby and just to talk. And it was such a unique experience. But I think that’s, that’s accurate that more and more people have said yeah, I, I just want a different way. But again, they don’t have clear direction on what that way is yet. And that’s, I mean that’s the gap that we’re trying to fill right now is to say here what you’re, what you’re aiming for is to reclaim your God given vitality, is to reclaim that thing that was inborn, that has never left you, that you have, you’re designed to heal.

You cut your leg, it heals. So why is it that the other things can’t heal. Let’s look for a pathway for that. And those who are already healthy, it’s like, hey, let’s, let’s continue on that trajectory of, hey, what are you doing right now? That created that and let’s strengthen our strengths. Well, we need to talk about the CDC lawsuit because it’s really important. But you guys came and I just got done dealing with this, this incredible issue, so you’re just. I had to talk to you about it. I wasn’t expecting to. But this has been a really great conversation with two good minds here.

But let’s talk about your CDC lawsuit because that is very important. It’s gonna, these kinds of activities make a difference for the entire country, maybe world. And even if you don’t win, which I hope you do, it sets a precedent and it brings information out to the public that they need to hear. So can you talk about what this lawsuit is about? Yeah, absolutely. The lawsuit is written in a way so that it does good from the outset, just like you said. You, anyone who’s listening can go read the complaint and understand it. You know, it’s, it’s short and it has a few key facts in it that make our case that everyone should know.

And so the reason we brought the lawsuit is to restore discernment in the vaccine decision, to say that the era of medical mandates is over, that we have to be making decisions about our health and not just walk into a doctor’s office. And if you’re three months old, you get the same shots that every three month old gets. And if you’re six months old or nine months old, and recognizing that the standard of care in America is there’s no upper limit to how many vaccines you can receive in a visit. So you have this nonsense schedule, which is, mind you, the most bloated schedule in the world for childhood vaccination between birth and 18 years of age.

72 plus doses within that time frame in a child’s life. And it’s never been studied as administered. So what that means is these doses were put on the schedule without studying the synergistic effect with the other doses. So they all have adjuvants, they all have, you know, intentional toxins like aluminum to heighten your immune system. And looking at how these things interact with each other and accumulate, we would need to make good decisions for the schedule. Look at how this affects a child across their life and how it affects vaccinated children against how unvaccinated children are, are faring with their health outcomes.

And those Studies have not been done yet. The Institute of Medicine has been asking for those very studies to be done by the CDC for 15 plus years and they still haven’t done it. So our lawsuit says, look, the agency decisions that were made to put these doses on the childhood schedule were bad agency decisions because they did not consider a very relevant fact, which is the synergistic and cumulative effect of the whole schedule. And for that reason you need to take every man. It’s not mandatory by the cdc, but that’s what’s used is the CDC schedule to make it mandatory within the states.

So take all of those doses that are automatic default doses for every American child and re categorize them as shared decision making. Which for someone who is in the freedom world might say shared decision making. Leah, this is not a shared decision. It’s my decision for my child. Absolutely. It means you pick your doctor that you trust and you make that decision in consultation with the doctor that you chose that you trust. And it means that you won’t walk in and the nurse administer all the three month old vaccines, your three month old, but you will be told what the options are and then decide whether or not you participate.

And so our goal is for this to disrupt the bloated vaccine schedule and make this an intentional decision by each individual mother. Well, if they’re not doing the studies, then you have to do that. You have to give people the informed consent because you didn’t do the studies. And so we are just like willy nilly doing things. Aluminum is poisonous, right? I mean it is a toxin to our body. And so if it is accumulating and this is a study they didn’t do, if you are accumulating that in your body, what does that do to you? And the fact that they haven’t done that study is actually negligent.

That’s why you’re deciding to sue them, right? I mean, because for God’s sake, what is wrong with you for not doing. And see again, I’m outside the industry, so I’m like, why is this not obvious? What is wrong with you? You know, I’m a smart professional. I can see logic. Why are you not doing this? And I wish I would have known when my kids were little and if moms knew, what decisions would they make? And so it’s really just lifting that veil to make this information available to the public. And Secretary Kennedy has put a new committee in place that makes decisions about the childhood schedule.

And so this lawsuit is intended to put pressure on them to make a Huge change during this window of opportunity. Not just take a look at hep at birth or take a look at thimerosal or, you know, but to actually make huge changes that will change a trajectory of health in the American children. Well, and, and isn’t it true that just, it’s like from my perspective, I don’t, I’m not, I don’t have, you know, anything in the fight other than just knowing what the truth is. If this, if this shot is really good for my kid.

Because the not getting it causes this problem and getting it, you know, solves this. And you look at the pros and cons and the studies are done well without flaws. And we’re looking at a cross section of the population that is truly a cross section. And we have multiple studies and you know, we just really are doing our best to understand it. And this is what it looks like the outcomes truly are. Okay, whatever, that’s great. But we, we’re not at that place, right? And, and unless we’re at that place, how could you possibly give people a straight faced answer that this is better for them if they don’t even know themselves? Right.

And if we win this lawsuit, it will dismantle over 400 state laws that defer to this schedule. So with that opportunity, the lie that you have to get shots to go to school will be shaken and then moms will be in a position to, to make a slower decision instead of saying, oh, Johnny has to go to kindergarten on Monday, so we better get caught up. And I think that that pressure has instituted like a blind faith because there’s a deadline to get the shot and shots for school are the belief, even though in most states even that isn’t true.

Well, and the getting caught up thing, it’s like you didn’t even. Okay, what does getting caught up mean? 10 shots at once where we don’t even know. I mean that could be incredibly dangerous and they don’t care. And that’s the issue is that we’re throwing away the obvious in to try to follow these laws. And it seems now the absurdity was pointed out during COVID where we were just doing a experimental vaccine and ignoring actual tricks. There were actual legitimate options people could use for treatments and they were ignoring it. Right. So we were, we, a lot of the people were just seeing the absurdity of it again from outside the field, a common sense.

It’s like this is absurd and maybe inside you can’t see it anymore because you’re so stuck in it. But those of us on the outside, it’s just obvious common sense that you don’t do things like that without having the, the studies and the understanding and the background to do this. So I, I’m so glad you’re doing this because we really are put into a spot where people are forced to do things that are just not good. Well, what you said about getting caught up and mistakes happen too, I mean, we as foster parents, we saw this routinely because there wasn’t good records on the foster child where it’s like, what shots did he have? Well, I don’t know.

Okay, well, let’s give him all of them because we don’t, we just don’t know. Or we have a dear friend who had twins and they accidentally gave both all of the doses to one child and that child ended up progressing into full blown autism. The twin did not. And so we see the mistakes happening. We also know that most mothers and people believe that these things are mandated in order to participate in schools. And so it needs inquiry, it needs people to evaluate it as moms and dads and people. We need to take a step back.

How many people have to be injured like that in such an obvious example, like the twins? I mean, how many more obvious examples do we have, have to have before we say, come on guys, we have to be better than this? Well, one of my mentors told me when we started standing for health freedom in 2018, 2019, she said, Leah, it’s going to take half of Americans either being injured themselves or having an immediate family member injured before we see a shift. And I said, we can’t accept that as true. That’s too much damage. And the good and bad thing about COVID is I think that that was the moment.

I mean, every attorney general, lawmaker, governor, candidate I talked to lately, they all know someone who was dramatically different and damaged because of the COVID vaccine. And so when you have adults experiencing these injuries, they live to feel and know the distinctions of their capacity before and after the shot, unlike a three month old or two year old. And so I don’t know if we reached that tipping point purely through injury or through other ways that God’s hand was on this. But I hate to say that we have to sit back and watch more and more and more people have regrets before we see the ultimate shift happen.

So you guys, where are you in the process of this lawsuit and what are we seeing happen? So we should have an answer from the government beginning of January, because we filed the lawsuit, I think, 43 days before the shutdown and then the shutdown was 43 days. So all answers were paused. So we’re still waiting on an answer from the government on their response to our complaint. And then we’ll know exactly where this is going to go, if it’s going to require further litigation or if there’s going to be conversations about the bad agency decisions and making the changes.

We, we hope that this can actually incentivize and pressure the people that are in power right now to do the right thing and give choice back to moms. But we’re prepared to go all the way forward with this because it could truly change health care for our children in America. Yes, I, I think it’s important that we force these issues because without it, we’re getting, like you said, half the people, they, we can’t afford that anymore, can we? It’s just too much. And, but it is a battle because like I said, the, the, without getting this information out to people, they truly believe, good people truly believe that it’s going to harm the populace if the vaccines are not allowed.

And specific ones that I’ve seen personally. And so that’s why these studies in this debate is so critical and we have in reclaimed vitality, we have a whole chapter about the vaccines ingredients and exactly what that decision is that gives people kind of a glimpse into maybe being interested in the topic so that they can arm themselves with full confidence. Because the worst thing is when a mother has an inkling or kind of a gut feeling that she should make a different decision but isn’t confident in that decision. And we want that for people to be able to have access to the true stories of how every single dose got on the schedule and what the real practicality is when it comes to, I mean, we all live through chickenpox.

Why is that on the schedule? Because it was too. It wasn’t cost effective for moms to stay home from work for two weeks. That’s why chickenpox is on the schedule. It’s just like every single shot has a story like that. I remember getting chickenpox and I would, I would run from the other room and take a head dive into the couch because my head itched. But they told me I couldn’t itch it. So as if that was better. But I come, I’d run and I’d like dive head first into the couch to itch my head. But yeah, we all lived through chickenpox.

Everybody got it. That’s right. And the generation before that was Measles in the Brady Bunch episodes Everyone was passing around measles. The kids were happy to stay home from it. So, and that’s the question, is that measles, you know, you watch in the movies and you watch it and they talk about measles being just incredibly bad and that people were dying en masse and stuff. Is that just propaganda, the current propaganda? Well, if you look at the trends, measles has come in waves for decades, for as far as we can look back, there’s always been little waves of measles.

And when you look at the eradication of measles, a lot of the scientists question is, quote, unquote, eradication of measles, just measles going deeper into the cell cells and the symptoms looking different. And so that’s what we have to ask ourselves. Are we celebrating the absence of measles symptoms and trading that for something that is longer term and deeper into the immune system? So there’s a lot of questions around the efficacy of that. Not just the safety, but the efficacy and the waning immunity and how herd immunity, if you accept that as a notion, doesn’t even take hold with the rates of success with that shot.

So it’s, it’s really a trend in kind of what we call genetic upgrade when it comes to exposure to a certain virus in a population that kind of ebbs and flows. That’s, that’s an interesting concept, is just our misunderstanding of the science altogether and that we possibly didn’t even eradicate it, we just changed it and made it worse or different. And. But that’s the history of science altogether. That’s when they say science is settled. It’s such a joke because we have historically misunderstood science over and over and over again. It’s the concept of being knowing enough to be dangerous, but not knowing enough to solve the problem.

And the history has, is just repeated over and over. That happens. More misunderstanding the science is more common than understanding the science from a historical perspective. When we continue to see it weaponized. I think that’s the biggest issue, Sarah, is that the hep B weaponized. We see measles weaponized, chickenpox weaponized. We saw Covid weaponized. I mean, how many times are we going to look back and say, oh yeah, that was clearly weaponized, to then say what else, what else might be weaponized against us? And for the same people who say, you know, smallpox and polio, there, there’s a story behind both of those too.

Why aren’t they talking about hep B? Why, why aren’t that. Is hep B is something that’s sexually transmitted and shared dirty needles, yet they do it right at birth. Why, why aren’t we talking about that? So instead of bringing up those things, I would invite them to bring up those ones that maybe should be talked about first and then give the mother the choice. If they still want to vaccinate against said thing, then give them the choice to do so, but give them the full informed consent to do that. That’s right. Now, what do you say to the people? Because this is a, this is a legit worry that we have the hurdle that we have to get over to be able to have this.

And I think the studies and being legit in that way and stop screwing around from that perspective can solve it. But there are some good arguments on whether it’s true or not. But there are some. I understand the argument that if the disease is so bad and if they truly believe the vaccine is working to eradicate that disease, and if they don’t do it and they remove it from the populace, we are going to have a tsunami of death. Death. That is a concern that they really believe. How do you. And it’s a serious hurdle. How are we going to get past that other than freedom of speech and legit science? Well, that’s the starting point, but that, you know, there’s so many flawed assumptions when it comes to that.

The vaccine was the savior, and that’s where the deep belief systems come in, is we, if we see the vaccine as the savior of the human race, then people are unwilling to reassess it. But if you look at history, we know that the measles, morbidity, mortality, so the illness and the death rates went way down before the introduction of the shot and it went even further down before the introduction of school mandates. So school mandates were not in. I mean, deaths were at a trickle when school mandates were initiated. So is the mandate. I think that’s what we need to focus on is, is the mandate necessary to protect.

We’re not taking anyone’s vaccines away. That’s not our job. You know what I mean? If the regulatory bodies want to do that, that’s something they need to assess. But I haven’t heard any murmurings of canceling vaccine programs. So I think that that’s dogma, you know, to say, oh, we’re all, we’re going to see a resurgence in deaths because A, we’re not taking the vaccines away, B, like we talked about the uk, their vaccine rates are high even without mandates, so people can decide for themselves and then it comes to the worldview of are our bodies capable of having, you know, proper immune system responses without a prophylactic intervention? And one of my favorite quotes, I’ll just read it really quick.

In the Vaccine Decision, the book we wrote about the shot stories, that is one of the giants in the field of vaccinology. Back in 1915, he was called up to solve the problem of migrant workers coming over from Africa and all these other nations and continents to work in the mines. And they were mine workers that were dying of pneumonia. And they said, we want you to create a pneumonia vaccine to fix this problem. And he said, it will be well to realize at the outset under what disabilities of ignorance we here pursue our work. And so they were in these toxic environments dying from pneumonia.

And even the vaccinologist admitted that we’re going into this to solve this with a huge dose of ignorance. And so if that was the origins of vaccinology, then there’s no shame in reassessing where this has gotten us generations after a very bloated schedule. Yeah. Okay, so where can they get a copy of your book? Reclaim Vitality is up for pre sale on Amazon right now in Barnes and noble. And then January 20th, hopefully it’ll be in your local bookstores. So that book is available for you all because we really want people to have that option, to have a standard by which they measure their next health decision.

Because every next health decision is an opportunity to do better for ourselves and for our family. So, yeah, Reclaim Vitality. And where do they learn more about your lawsuit stand for healthfreedom.com Sign up for our list and we’ll send you updates. We also do a podcast together called One Dream Podcast. So when anything changes with the lawsuit, we will be sure to deliver updates and tell you all how you can even be a part of that earth shattering lawsuit we hope to see come across the line sooner than later. Thank you so much for everything you’re doing and for having the courage to take on this battle.

It’s not an easy one to take on. Thanks for having us on. Yeah, thanks Sarah.
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