Epstein Limited Hangout Manson Comparisons and CIAs Operation Chaos w/ George Webb

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Welcome to business Game changers. I’m Sarah Westall. I have the investigative journalist George Webb coming to the program. He is one of the best investigative journalists out there. He’s just wonderful. We’re going to be talking at first about Epstein. A lot of this is a limited hangout and that, you know, they’re hiding behind the fact that the government and it’s an intelligence operation and that Epstein is really just the tip of the iceberg. It’s kind of how everything is run. The blackmail, I term the currency. Blackmail is a currency of the powerful and it really is true.

And it didn’t just start a couple decades ago. I mean it started, you know, probably since humanity started. But the problem now in our country is it’s been, it’s been so ingrained into the deep state, into our institutions that it’s pretty much rotten, rotted us to the core to the point where they’re sending billions to Ukraine in this money laundering, you know, drug laundering equipment, military equipment laundering operation. And then people in North Carolina get peanuts and we don’t, we can’t take care of our own citizens while they’re, you know, giving billions to criminals. That’s where we’ve sunk into because of this blackmail system.

And that’s why this blackmail system needs to be dismantled. And you’re never going to completely dismantle everything, but it’s so important that we, we make a big dent into it. And I believe what’s really behind a lot of the movements that you’re seeing right now, and I’ve said this on many shows, is the economic reset that’s going on and the fact that there’s hardball being played, serious hardball, meaning that, you know, blackmail is taken to a new level. We will destroy your country, we’ll destroy your family, we’ll destroy all these things if do what we’re going to, we want you to do.

And it’s at a very serious high level. I think that’s what’s happening right now. So I don’t want to scare people by saying this because it just is reality that we’re having a reset. It could be one of the most glorious things that happened if we, if decisions are made in a way that’s pro human and we’ll see. I’ll be covering it as much as I can because I know some things in that are happening and I have shared stuff on my substack. If you go to my substack, Sarah Westall, that substack. Com, you can see some things that I’ve posted there about the global economic system.

I’ve talked about five different factions that I’ve identified. And it’s when people say they know what’s going to happen, I think that’s BS Unless you’re in the boardrooms, you don’t know what’s going on. And then even if you are in the boardrooms, that doesn’t mean whatever they’re planning is really going to happen. So if, if someone tells you they know for sure, I. They’re not somebody that knows for sure. They don’t. They’re looking at it in a way too simplistic manner. That being said, I do want to, I do want to put a push for my substack.

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So if you follow him and you enjoy his work, it might be worthwhile to help him out in that way as well. Okay, let’s get into this really good conversation with George Webb. Hi George, welcome to the program. It’s been a few years, Sarah, but I think we did something about three or four years ago, but I’ve always been a big fan. Well, I’m so glad I finally have you onto the program. You are one of the best independent journalists out there, bar none. And you have focused on so many different topics over the years and right now you have been following a little bit about the Epstein case.

It’s back into the the headlines. Right. Can you talk about what it is that you’re focused on right now? Well, you know, for people who’ve been following the release of the documents, Pam Band, but he said, oh, we’re going to put out the four sets of documents and then they put out the first one or tried and then had the hiccup and went, oh, there’s national security. Oh, you know, there’s all this production and it still hasn’t really come out yet. And I think the frustration, there’s a huge frustration out there. Right. So, so and this is not just with The Epstein, it’s 9 11, it’s to a certain extent J6.

But the JF and the RFK, it’s all kind of building up. And what I thought I would do is just kind of put my 2 cents in for the time I spent in West Palm beach in New York and on Little St. James for saying why it is held up is it’s not just about Epstein. Little St. James was using a compromise operation called an assessment. And when you’re bringing new people into the Government, you assess them. Office of Net Assessments, guy named Marshall, he did it for 40 years. The E ring of the Pentagon. But the, the Office of Net Assessment would send out and you know, sexual lures.

Is this person, could they succumb to a sexual lure or bribery? Right. And those two things were the thing being tested at Little St. James. And if you leave that part out, you leave the national security part out. And then people don’t understand what’s a big deal. Yeah. Why is this being held up? And that’s why it’s being held up. If you watch the series on Netflix, which is called Filthy Rich, a four part series, it’s all about girls going across the bridge from West Palm beach to Long Beach, Palm beach island to do 200 massages.

That’s not what it’s about. That’s not what the Epstein operation was about. And would you say that it was more than just about the, the analysis at that? You know what they’re, what they could be bribed with too, wasn’t it? It was a first step. And then they also went forward and did the bribery against people. Right. They did the blackmail big time. Stan Pottinger was in charge of that. That’s the other thing that you don’t get out of the series. Edwards. Pottinger is presented to you as Edwards. You only see Edwards. You never see Stan Pottinger.

Stan Pottinger, if you don’t know him, is the right hand man of Kissinger. He’s the one who’s extorting and do. And sweating out all these executives to write these checks after they do something stupid down at Little St. James Island. And it’s their whole career, you know, it’s. They either draw into the stock of the corporation or they get favors from the government. If they do a government official or if it’s a scientist, they get secrets. You know, it’s just a big compromise operation that Stan Pottinger was running. And the check writing is. What’s the extortion? The money, the payoff is what’s left out of the.

It’s sort of like leaving out hitting in baseball, you know, that’s the whole thing. That’s right. Well, they just, they just want. The salacious part is what they’re doing, right. They’re. They’re just showing that. And then they’re leaving out the nuts and bolts about how this actually works and what they used it for. Now why. This is something that I’ve always had stumbled over. Why were these executives going like why. They all knew that this was a blackmail operation, why did they keep going? Well, if in the early days before the case kind of exploded, 2006ish time frame, Jeff Epstein was a billionaire success story.

He was a wonder kind. You know, some people knew about Tower Financial and knew about the whole Hoffenberg thing being a big Ponzi scheme, but not a lot of people yet, they just thought, oh, here’s a guy went to Bear Stearns and he went to Tower and then he went to Les Wexner and Les Wexner is Victoria’s Secret and L Brands and wow, this guy is a, a genius, you know. And so he was getting into things. I’ll close this up. He was getting into things like Gene editing, crispr. Yep. These kind of cutting edge things.

And hey, if you want to get in on the inside track, we’re going to bring in these Nobel Prize winners and we’re going to get you in on the inside track. And so I think that was the early, the early pitch, if you will, to some of these folks. But then there was the entertainment people. Hey, come on down, it’s going to be Chris Rock and we’re all going to be going to Africa for AIDS and you know, Etc, you know, it was the whole glitterati, why don’t you join the hoi polloi down in Little St.

James? So it was for all those reasons, I think so the greed and the glitz and to be associated with somebody that they think is a mover and a shaker and it just worked. He tapped into people’s, I don’t know, vices. Yeah. I mean if, let’s say you were owned a steel company and it’s worth a billion dollars and you’re the CEO of the steel company, well, you probably get a pretty good salary, etc, but you probably don’ a vacation home in the Caribbean. You probably don’t have 12, you know, beautiful nymph like women jumping into the pool, you know, attending to your every women need.

So you think in your mind, hey, I’m a big, I’m a big deal. I’m kind of a big deal here at US Steel, let’s say. But nobody’s treating me like I’m a big deal. But these people seem to recognize that I’m a big deal. And then you get into the drugs and then you get into the alcohol and then they get into the, a mistake that they make with these girls and then they’re on the hook. Either their stock portfolio or their pension fund. Somehow they get into US Steel’s Money and it forever. It’s a, it’s a continuing payout until that guy dies.

Yeah, that’s the sad part. It’s forever, isn’t it? Yeah. And, and that’s how they. You know, one of the things that I’ve termed the coin, the term that I’ve coined is blackmail as a currency. The powerful. Back when I did a six part series with James Rostein, which I told you a little bit about who he was and his informant was Roy Cohen and they took down more pedophiles than anybody together. Right. Coin was he had everybody in D.C. blackmailed back in the 60s and 70s and the 80s kind of turned around. He did turn around and he started taking it up, taking people down.

And I don’t think people really knew that he was Donald Trump’s mentor at that time. But what Rothstein always taught me was that. Or what he taught me was that this was widespread. I mean Epstein was just the tip of the iceberg. That was just one of many. This is how they operate. Yeah, I think the Bronfmans, when you get into, when you got this goes all the way back to prohibition where you’re getting officials and you’re trying figure out bribe judges and you’re trying to bribe law enforcement and so forth. And then as you move into heroin, it just kept going.

You know, the need to bribe judges and the need to bribe law enforcement just continued. And why not just keep going and make it a money making enterprise and take over large businesses and that allows you also to launder the money from your illegal operations. So Bronfman was very tied in. I can’t remember the guy that Cohen Bromph and competed with, that Cohen took down, but he was sort of modeled on the Great Gats. Yeah, Cohen. Whitney Webb writes about it quite a bit. Cohen was in the middle of all of it. He’s. He’s the expert.

Yeah, he was the expert. And they, well he, that’s what they modeled everything after. And then he turned and then started taking everything down and dismantling it. But he was raised in a pedophile situation. He was in a, you know, orphanage. And then he was used as a. For pedophilia. And so he grew up. He was a very hardened man. And he was also, I think he was gay too. But you know, if you are abused as a child, there’s more likelihood for you to have different sexual orientation. Sure. That abuse, that trauma. Rosenstiel is the guy I’m thinking about.

And Whitney Webb writes about the Rosenstiel versus Bronfman War. And then Cohen being the guy who kind of takes Rosenstiel down, who I always said was the Great Gatsby, is the model for the Great Gatsby because he lived in Westport and so forth. But yeah, I think these operations go way back. I don’t look at Hoover with Tilson, Clive Tilson. So he was constantly compromised. And then they had Roy Cohen had a lover that they were using against him who was in the army, can’t remember his name right now. So they had this three way Angleton, also at the CIA was being blackmailed as three way triangle.

So this has been around a while. But the part that I don’t like about the Netflix series is they keep making it, oh, it’s just this one guy over here getting 200, right. That’s not the case. It’s not just Epstein. Epstein, how are you? Probably. So where, what do you see is going to happen with the Epstein files? Do you think they’re ever going to release these or do you think they realized this is, I mean, Pam Bondi was the AG in Florida where Epstein was. You would think she’d be more knowledgeable than to make this mistake.

Well, she’s, she knows the case. There’s no question about it. She inherited the case. Acosta was the, you know, the person as the estate attorney that basically gave Jeff Epstein the sweetheart deal. I think it was 2008 or something like that. So she wasn’t the one who gave the sweetheart deal, but she was still the one who kind of looked the other way and didn’t really do anything. Yeah, for a long time. So. And I think that’s because the national security situation where, hey, Epstein was still meeting with the Woody Allens and, you know, all these different people after his arrest.

So the operation just kind of kept on going. And the check writing with, you know, you want to keep the check writing going. You remember you have hundreds of people that you’ve compromised from previous operations. The longer you can stay in the game is every quarter you’re going to get another check. So that’s why I think he was able to hang on for as long as he did. Now, as far as will Trump shut it down ever? It’s really closely connected to Trump. You know, Mar A Lago, Virginia Roberts was there. Her father was the green keeper at Mar A Lago.

It’s, it, it’s really in that whole world of Trump. And so I don’t know, I, I hope, you know, do you believe that Trump was involved in that and compromised as well. Or do you think he escaped that? I think he escaped that. I covered him. They tried to get him with a 14 year old at the Stone Fortress. He was smart enough to get out. You know, they tried to compromise him at Little St. James. He got out. He only made a couple of trips. It’s not like Bill Clinton who was actually uses Rainmaker to attract people.

The Clinton foundation did a ton of stuff, especially with HIV and other drugs down in. I think he made what, 71 trips or something like that Clinton made. So yeah, there’s going to be a lot more to gain for Trump to release the files. I hope they do, but you know, we don’t know and I, I hope they do. I hope they do. Yeah, well, I hope they do. I mean we need to come clean and people need to understand what was actually going on. Do you know who John Mark Dugan is? Sure, yeah. Yeah. John Mark Dugan claims he has the, the videos of Beck.

He, he was a whistleblower or he helped Pete whistleblowers and he claims he has the videotapes. The FBI asked him to store it and he, the MI6 tips off the Times of London and then that he had these. And so a journalist went and sat there with them and they looked at, He’s a friend of mine, John Mark Dug. And I talked to him on a regular basis and they looked at nine of them because they just felt kind of grossed out to look out more than that. But what they found was one girl was taking a shower and the other eight were underage girls having sex with powerful men.

And he recognized two of them. And so these are the tapes the FBI have. Unless they destroyed them, they have all of them. I asked him how come you didn’t release them? He goes, because we felt like his life was in danger. So he, he has a dead man switch and went out to 10 different people. If anything happened to him, he, but he figured, why should I release them when the FBI has all of them? Just a short break from the program to share with you an amazing peptide to help you lose weight. It’s stronger than Ozempic.

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You know, it’s really difficult. And this is why I’m saying, especially with political people. Let’s take Matt Gates for I, I have friendships with people on the other side of the aisle. Wayne Madsen’s one of them. I knew about the Matt Gaetz thing where he was targeted on the road with a young girl that said she was of age but wasn’t. He was targeted all the way. And I knew about that eight years ago. Right. Well, if you, if you let them know, if you let Matt Gates know, hey, this girl’s underage and we would like 25% of all the money you’re receiving from your campaign contributions.

Now, you don’t have to give us 25% of your campaign contributions. You just, we’ll just release this information. That’s how they did it. Nancy Pelosi ran an operation like that. Adam Schiff ran an operation like that. It’s not taking the money directly from the mark the target. It’s taking the money from their corporation or their government, which is a lot more money. That’s the idea of the, of the operation. Do you, Matt Gates was he Tied up into the. It was a different blackmail operation, right? I mean, that’s what you’re saying. And they, they actually had him and he fell for it.

But so many of the people fall for it, right? I mean, that’s the problem. And so Matt Gates, I mean he’s a victim in some ways. I mean he thought the girl was 18, 19 years old and she ended up being what, 17. 17, yeah. And. Go ahead. It’s the, it’s the razor’s edge, you know, that you have to watch, you know. And yeah, I think, I don’t think he was married at the time. But even then it’s hard. It’s just the thing that they keep doing over and over again, so you just have to be wary of that.

But, but there’s several other politicians. New ones are coming out today. I see of CEOs, I think it’s uh, Chase, uh, it’s, it’s the operation they run. It’s how they become super wealthy. If you think about it, it’s not how they become wealthy because what you do is you let US Steel and a million steel workers like my grandfather in Akron, Ohio work 12 hours a day. They generate a huge pension fund and then you raid the pension fund. You don’t go collect in a tin can from all the steel workers. You go after that pension fund.

And this is what the Teamsters, I’ve covered the Teamsters a lot from Cleveland. This is what they’ve done. Chicago mob has done since they were, you know, since they were organized. Do you think that they can clean this up or do you think this is human nature? Or are we just like on the lowest point of capitalism and we need to rebuild? I want to, you know, believe. I want to believe. I don’t want to be one of those people who just black pilled. You have two choices. Try or die. You can just say, well, I black pill.

There’s no way it’s, we’re going to do anything about it. Let’s just die. Or, or you can try and try to make it right. And so I try or die is the choice and I go for try. And I really want Dan Bongino, I really want Pam Bondi, I really want Cash Patel. I’ve met them all and I want them all to do the right thing. I want Trump to do the right thing. If you can’t do it all, do part of it, but, but put it out there so that you regain the trust. This is the thing I think is so important is it’s sort of like a husband and wife who don’t share any information about their financials or don’t share any information about where they’re traveling or don’t share any.

You know, if you want trust in a relationship, you say, hey, I’m going to be here and I’m going to be there, and here’s my location anytime you need to call me, and here’s our bank account, here’s what I’m spending the money on. And please don’t, you know, buy any more Gucci handbags, you know, or whatever. It’s a part of a relationship. And that trust is so important. And what I see happening right now is the JFK and the RFK and the 911 and the Epstein files is getting in the way of people’s trust relationship with Trump and, and J.D.

vance and, and company. It is, I think. And that’s kind of, that’s sad. Right, because we need trust in order to accomplish things. And the trust factor with government is probably at the lowest point I’ve ever seen in my life. I think there was some excitement from the Trump election and I think Trump’s executive orders, the first hundred, were good. A lot of good things there, a lot of common sense, which was great. But I think now we’re getting to. And Doge was good. I think a lot of the USAID and Doge, I think that was good.

But now we’re into the point of. Okay, now the other promises, you know, promises, promises. You’ve got to deliver on all your promises, not just some of your promises. And we just can’t forget the promises that were the biggies. And these are big. Well, and I would say that the lowest point in trust in government maybe was before Trump was elected. I think he’s raised it a little bit. I’m not gonna, I can, I’m gonna take that back a little bit. But trust in general is really, really low and he could go a long way at shoring some of that up.

But there’s some, there’s some things that they’re doing that when it comes to Israel that people are concerned about. And I can understand an ally of ours in that region. But they, you know, the, the free, the, the no war rhetoric needs to apply to Israel too, doesn’t it? Yeah. Now, and I’m just so. I don’t get hit with the anti Semitic label. I was, the guy at 42 was looking into going to the IDF after 911 because I thought it was an attack on Israel and democracy and wanted to go to the front lines. Right.

So I was one of the true believers. I went to New York. I, I went and worked in the Woolworth Building. I looked down at the craters. I was one of the true believers. I went, I arrived in New York city on the first anniversary of the 9 11. But, so I’m all in favor of Israel. I don’t want Israel to expand, you know, from the Nile to the Euphrates or, you know, Greater Israel. I’m not a Zionist, but, but if you look at all the things that are being done on behalf of Israel, it is make Israel great again.

It changed from make America great again to make Israel great again. I’m kind of in favor of an offshore development with oil and gas off the Gaza coast because, hey, oil and gas, you need it to run the world. Okay, I’m okay with that with Trump’s ambitions there. But when you start getting into, you know, like you say, the endless war or the endless blank check, these are things that, wait a minute, we’re. You’re the President of the United States, you’re not the President of Israel. And you got to answer to the people of the United States, not to the interests of your cabinet.

You know, Howard Lutnick is, was Kleiner or Canter Fitzgerald, the 73rd floor where the planes hit on 9 11. You know, he’s got a star studded cast with Jared Kushner and everybody of some very big players in the Israeli community. And I think he has to show that, hey, I’m not just a pawn or, or a bishop or whatever for Israel. And I think that’s a very good point. He is certainly leaning that direction. Israel can do no wrong. There’s the anti defamation thing they just put through on the college campuses. How is that free speech, you know, Etc.

Well, what do you think of, you know, let’s go 360 here to blackmail. Are we watching a blackmail in action? You know, in the. That’s what it seems like it could be. Yeah. I mean, that’s very possible. I mean, I do, you know, the, the Macy’s thing or what was that? I can’t remember which supposed dressing room he was in with that one lady. But if you’ve ever been to New York and the scene, the dressing rooms, it’s very easy to yell out help, you know, with. And 50 people will come running. So it’s very hard to believe that whole.

I can’t remember. Yeah, right. It’s very hard to believe. That is the compromise that they got Trump on. It’s Just one of those things to put out there to create a lot of division and a lot of social media. But it could be. Well, I think it might be deeper, you know, like the compromise, like the blackmail could be more serious too. Like we will. We’ll take down the U. S. Economy kind of stuff. And, you know, I mean, it gets. They’re playing hardball here. Suitcase nuke. Suitcase nuke was Ben Gurion threatened Kennedy with a suitcase nuke.

We tracked a loose nuclear stuff with Rahm Emanuel and using Ibrahim, a terrorist from Pakistan, as his proxy to threaten suitcase nuke. So suitcase nuke is still very much in play. You know, those New Jersey drones are looking for loose nukes. Right. So I. Suitcase nuke is the number one thing I fear. There’s also hacking. Right. With black cat and, and that is also on the table. Bio agent H5N1’s also, you know, tax of food supply. So there’s a lot of things up, you know, potentially the Mossad sleeve. And we’ve just got to have a trust level.

Right. With Trump and doing things that kind of show that you’re not under the thumb. Now, it could be that there’s a suitcase nuke under the resolute desk right now and Trump doesn’t want to sign that Epstein document. You know, I could understand why. Never know. Yeah. You don’t know. There seems to be something like. I agree with you. It seems even worse than sexual blackmail. It seems even bigger than that. The reason why it seems worse to me is because Trump’s been through the ringer. I mean, I, I don’t think sexual blackmail is going to work on him, in him anymore.

Right. Honestly, I mean, unless you have a little kid or something that would. But as far as they’ve done everything else aside from a little kid. Right. Yeah. The Billy Bush thing and the, you know, with all the other stuff in New York, I think they’ve gone through everything with the eps, they tried the Eptine stuff in. In New York with trump at the 14 year old and now they’re going to go to the little St. James Island. I. These. I agree with you. It’s like spaghetti out of refrigerator. You know, it’s going to stick for maybe three seconds.

You know, Trump’s been through all that. It’s got to be something because they’re not doing anything. Dan Bongino, I just found out, isn’t taking his job and taking his office until the 17th of March. Why? Well, he wants to run his radio show and he doesn’t want to Leave all of his radio show podcasting people in the lurch. I’m like, that’s weird. You’ve got a country to save. You’ve got a president to make sure he doesn’t get assassinated. You’re the number two guy at FBI. Forget the podcast. Get your behind to Washington. So these are things that don’t make any sense to me, and I’m just trying to, you know, just trying to share them with other people and make sure that we get some social pressure out there, because these.

If it’s not Cash Patel, it’s as the two number one ways of getting information to the FBI that we should be looking into these investigations. That’s right. And people who aren’t compromised hopefully can do it and are strong enough to withstand that. And that’s what we need. You know, people who are just bulls, they don’t. They’re not going to succumb to the pressure. Now, what do you think of RFK Jr? It seems like he’s been squeezed a little bit and blackmailed somehow. Yeah. I mean, 100 vaccines of a kid before the age of six or seven or whatever it was.

To me, that’s where he should be focusing. Reducing the number of vaccines. He’s. He seems to be focusing on French fries and. And using beef tallow at Shake. Steak and Shake. Yeah, I’m sure there’s a lot of people that eat it. Steak and Shake. Probably millions. Probably millions of people making their health bad by eating the fries. Okay. But I think most of the people who have problems with, you know, the autism and. And the other side effects from these vaccines, they really don’t care about the beef tallow at Steak and Shake with the fries. They really want him to deal with reducing the number of vaccines for kids before their age.

Whatever. He knows that. That’s why I’m saying he knows that. So is he being squeezed? Is he being blackmailed? Big pharma doesn’t mess around either. I mean, you’ve been around. These guys don’t mess around. Yeah. I mean, he went after artificial dyes, you know, red dye number two. You know, again, that seemed. I agree that there’s a lot of artificial dyes out there. Those red MMs, remember, they. They used to have red Ms. And they took them away because of red dye number two. Yeah. Okay. But it’s not what made my kid autistic. You know, it’s not what has caused this rare genetic disease.

It’s not what’s caused these other things that seem to be very Vaccine driven with now all these cancers in young people. Right. And it’s not just me saying, it’s Dr. Soon Shong, the guy who’s running around in the Clinton foundation selling these miracle gears with MRNA and cart replacement therapy. He’s the one who’s saying we’re seeing cancers in and very rare diseases in these young children 10, 12 years old from. I mean, there’s nothing else that changed in between time other than the vaccine. So that’s where I think they want people who are maha. That’s where they want Bobby Kennedy to focus.

And he seems to be dancing around his, his mission right now. Well, and I like to give these people a little bit of benefit of the doubt and give them more time because it isn’t that much time and they have huge pressure and we know they’re operating in a blackmail system. I mean, that’s just what it is. And they’re going to be doing, whether it’s black male or coercion or, I mean, so many. They don’t. They play hardball. Yeah. I mean, I also want to let people have time to get their feet under them. And I don’t want to be too critical.

And so that’s why I, I hope I, I’m coming off as like, I’m measured of being hopeful and saying, hey, I hope you get in there and I hope you do. But then again, the American people are like chomping at the bit. They’re tired. They’re. They’ve had this, you know, with the Kennedy thing 60 years, you know, and the Bobby Kennedy 60 years. They’re way over tired on that subject. They don’t understand at all what, everybody’s dead. Why can’t we release the files? And it. And the only thing that seems to be the sticking point is, oh, well, Ben Gurion’s letters and nasty threats to Kennedy are going to come out.

Right. And that’s going to fuel a whole bunch of conspiracy theory that Israel killed Kennedy. Well, if Kennedy has memos out there saying, hey, what the hell are you doing testing nuclear weapons at Dimona when I’m trying to sign a nuclear test ban treaty with the Russians, I’m trying to do a peace race. I just did a speech over here at American University talking about a peace race, and you guys are out there going gangbusters at Dimona with your nuclear program. Now how does that, how does that make me look? And Kennedy even threatened Ben Gurion.

So they don’t want those files coming out and going, oh, this, this is going to Fuel the Israel trying to intimidate America thing. Well, I say, there’s an old saying is, like, like, let the heavens fall. You know, you release everything and let the. Let the heavens fall. And we deal with it. Deal with it. You know, hey, everybody, Ben Gurion tried to threaten Kennedy with a suitcase nuke. Deal with it. You know, and then we could say, okay, well, let’s not do that again. Right? You know, yeah, let’s not do that. I mean, this will help us going forward, knowing what happened in the past.

So that’s my perspective on it. I agree with you. It does seem like Trump is tiptoeing when it comes near Israel, and I do believe Bobby Kennedy seems to be tiptoeing around his mission. And it’s, it’s odd and it’s hard to understand. It is because they were so bold and so straightforward, and then they get in there and they’re very calculated and, and reticent and, and hesitant. And hesitant, yeah. Calculated is a little different than hesitant. Yes. Yeah. Hesitant. I, I think. I don’t see them, like, scheming. I see them as saying, how do I make a press release today? So it looks like I’m doing something rather than just sitting in my office in Washington and, you know, Trump went a long way with French fries and McDonald’s.

Let me see if I can do the French fry thing. And I, I think it kind of didn’t really. Yeah, Yeah. I don’t think it landed. No. Well, let’s get back to the Epstein thing. There’s a Netflix series that you were talking about, and, and it, it bugs you. What they’re. How they’re focused. Not just bugs you. It’s. It’s. It just doesn’t tell the story the way it needs to be told, and it’s missing the elements of intelligence. Can you. Let’s talk a little bit more about that and why that propaganda is being put out like that.

Well, Netflix seems to be like the. What do you call it, the limited hangout for the intelligence agencies. I, I, the same story is with Manson, right. Where it’s. There’s a current Netflix out there called chaos, and Tom O’Neill has been working 20 years on this book with Chaos, and it’s sort of like a shorthand for Helter Skelter. It’s Charlie man in. It’s him with a crazy face and the crazy hair and the blood streaming down his face, and it’s Chaos. Well, what they left out of that equation was the true name of the operation, which was Operation Chaos.

And Operation is not a Manson thing. Operation is an intelligence thing. And they doubt lsd, which was to take LSD in the operation and spread it everywhere, in the music scene, in the anti war scene. So, so it’s the 20. They leave out operation, the word operation and the word LSD that. That leads you to believe it’s just one guy versus a intelligence operation. Operation Midnight Climax was the name of the operation in, in San Francisco that they ran since the. After the World War II in Haight Ashbury. Right. So we’re not, not guessing here. These are, you know, well documented.

And this in the same Operation Chaos was being run in Laurel Canyon. So the. Why I bring that up is the same thing is going on in with Epstein. They’re using West Palm beach and Palm Beach island not for 200 massages for Jeff Epstein. They’re using it as a Ponzi recruiting scheme where a girl would come there and then they would say, hey, you don’t have to come here anymore and do massages for $200. You can just have friends come here, right? Are there any friends you have from high school that you think would be interested? And girls that they interview on the, you know, in the, in the Filthy Rich series are mainly recruiters.

These are girls that brought 40, 50, 60 girls. And then those girls in turn brought 40, 50, 60 girls. So it’s like Amway Force recruiting for sexual compromise operations. That’s the part of the, the part they get, right, as far as how Epstein and Elaine Maxwell did the recruiting. But once you do the recruiting, like for the army, then you go to the training camp, and then you don’t just run around and march around the base. You get deployed to somewhere for an operation. And the deployment was Little St. James island or New York or Long.

Long Island. And you go do something like compromise somebody. And that’s, that’s the part they, they leave out. And you don’t just compromise somebody just to say, Gosh, we compromised 10 bank presidents today and 10 Nobel Prize winners and 10 government officials. Look at our scoreboard. No, Stan Potter has to pick up the phone and go, oh, hey, Mr. X at US Steel, we got a real problem. The, the girl that you were with, she’s pregnant, right? The girl that you were with on, on Little St. James was pregnant. I’ll keep you up to date. Click.

Now he’s freaked out, right? I mean, now you got a wife, you got two kids now. Now you’re worried about, well, can we get an abortion? Well, I don’t Know, she’s, you know, she, you know, she’s. She’s Catholic. She doesn’t want an abortion, you know, See, and now the sweat starts building on the thing. Well, if we only had, you know, 30, 000, you know, blah, blah. Well, as soon as you write that first check, you’re in. You’re in. And this is the old Jack Abramoff thing. As soon as you write that first check, the first check could be $2,000, then you’re in.

And then you’re. That’s. Go away to prison forever. That’s not just lose and go down a couple rungs in, in U. S Steel. And that’s, that’s the part they leave out the check writing, the extortion, the squeeze, the payoffs. That’s what they leave out of the series. And that’s the most important part. Thing works. Yes. Of any operation. Yeah. Well, now, what do you think of Ghislaine Mass Maxwell? She’s pretty much left alone. It’s as if it’s Epstein and she’s the one that had all the connections, really. I mean, her father was. I mean, was she Epstein’s handler, really? Because he’s a triple agent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Robert Maxwell, certainly. He was a big fraudster. He stole money from pensions, funds like nobody’s business in the publishing business. He also brokered secrets. He had the old Nazi secrets from World War II, but then he was with Springer. He had all the scientific secrets that he brokered. And he courted a lot of scientists and so forth when he was there. So yeah, he, he was certainly running an operation for Israel, certainly trying to get Israel to bomb, certainly trying to get Israel bio agents and the fact that the daughter of that person is somehow, you know, they kind of don’t connect those dots.

They do a little bit in the series, they talk about how he was in publishing and how he committed fraud in publishing. They really don’t talk about him. His Mossad background, Which way more important than the publishing background? Again, they don’t want to ban these flames that Mossad is controlling the United States. But Bob Maxwell’s Mossad guy, I mean, there’s just no two ways about it. And Ghislaine is a chip off the old block and, and the sisters as well. Not, not just her, but her sister as well. And we should just like accept that. We should just say, hey, we have to be cognizant that we don’t get too under the thumb of Israel.

We got to look at these previous compromise and, and not Repeat them. Well, what do you think now? You know that we’re talking about Israel. So many people. My understanding is there’s a lot of people in Congress and position of powers that are dual citizen with Israel. Does that present the problem in your mind? Sure. It’s dual loyalty. I mean and the, you know I did aspiring in Congress where they had all these encrypted phones. Rahm Emanuel had these Pakistanis running all around. Debbie Wasman Schultz, Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi within our intelligence committees. So at the top level with encrypted military grade encrypted communications for 20 years.

Right. So that’s, that’s a real problem. So my, my point there is you have to get rid of the shadow network that’s strangling your democracy, you know, and get to that point in, in, in the. I’m not sure if I’m answering your question. You are. I mean that’s the whole point is that we can’t have this shadow control structure. Yeah. I mean it’s basically the yoke or the, the harness of, on the American horse if you will. And, and, and with, with you know, sort of Israel and Rahm Emanuel being the jockey of it. And, and the encrypted communications is really important because if it wasn’t just an operation to see the encrypted communications of the members of Congress, it wasn’t just getting critical information out of like let’s say the US Patent and Trade Office.

Right. Which is very important, the Library of Congress and shifting those things overseas and then having knockoffs being done overseas for drugs and so forth, which we caught Rahm Emanuel doing with a drug lab and Faisal about. It wasn’t just those things. It’s also the communication of when people come to Congress as whistleblowers and now I’m intercepting that communication. So now I can go introduce false witnesses. I can go make some other false witness more famous than the real whistleblower, you know and I can keep the, I can keep the control network in intact. And so I spent a lot of time on the shadow network in Congress, the one Spire network.

So I’ve spent a lot of time. But I want to say that I am a proponent of Israel and I believe in a democracy and an aircraft carrier of democracy in the Middle East. And I like the idea of another canal going through Israel rather than through a foreign nation that could be terrorist at some point, which is Egypt. I like the idea of the Ben Grand Canal. You know, I’m, I like the idea of an offshore development. But you don’t have to hate, you don’t have to dislike everything in order to realize that there’s a control stuff, structure that’s not healthy.

Right. And absolutely. And that’s what, that’s what I’ve been saying to people. We have to be able to say this is good and this not so much. So we got to fight this, but approve this, you know, because otherwise we’re just against everything. And that makes no sense. But it also shows how we get into a situation where we have a Ukraine war where billions of dollars are being laundered. It’s this big money laundering, weapon laundering system. And then we have a situation in North Carolina where people aren’t getting basic 900 bucks a person. We can’t take care of our citizens while we’re doing the opposite extreme opposite.

It. Yeah, I wrote a series called the Braveman prophecy in 2017, which was called about the East Med pipeline, which was basically what I was stating was Israel wanted to build a southern route of, of oil and gas route through, just through Saudi Arabia, up the Ben Gurian pipeline and into the boot of, of, you know, through the Mediterranean and the gas lines there into the boot of Italy to supplant the northern route, which was Russia. Right. It was called the East Med pipeline. And basically predicting the Ukraine war, saying what do they always do when they want to pay for something that they don’t have the money for? Start a war and then launder about half of the money.

So we predicted the, the Ukraine war would be, half of the money would be stolen. Well, imagine our surprise when Zelensky came out and said it’s not half of the money that’s stolen, it’s 58% of the money was stolen. Right. We said it was going to be Kolomoiski. Zielinski’s dad is in business with Kolomoisky. They, they put a sham trial in place so they could hide the documents in Ukraine. But we said Ukraine is probably going to be like a one or two year war in order to pay for the East Med pipeline. Well, it turns out it’s not that there, I was there in Ukraine.

I know Michael David was there a lot more than me. But, but we, I, I thought it was going to be like a one or two years to pay for the Eastman pipeline. They’re not, they’re still going. They, they want it to be a 20 year war like Afghanistan and, and Iraq. So that’s crazy talk. Well, yeah, I mean they just keep laundering weapons and money and just. Just continually. And Afghanistan, when they took down Afghanistan, they left all the weapons. So that fueled that along with Ukraine, fueled what they have now in Syria. And it’s just a big mess, isn’t it? Well, I think there’s a deliberate.

You know, deliberate. But left because what ends up happening is brokers came in. That’s right. Again, you need. You need the codes. You need operational codes to operate any of those planes or. Or helicopters or humvees or whatnot. So without the codes, you’re out of luck. So they had the codes. So they had. That means the government’s involved and they resold all that material to all kinds of different governments. Right. That wanted to buy it. And so all that was another big operation which was a giveaway. So I. I don’t want to come off too negative because, well, it’s hard not to be like, oh my God, is that corrupt? With Biden, I mean, we had that whole giveaway.

I mean, you just can’t imagine a worse situation. And Trump is kind of a breath of fresh air with. With the executive orders and with the Doge, I think is hopefully good. Yeah, yeah. But. But we need to. To do the next thing. And I think, Sarah, you’re. You and I are just trying to encourage the administration to do the right thing. The next thing. I think there’s people they can bring in that know a lot about 9 11. Robin Gritz, 16 years FBI agent. She was working counterterrorism. She was the one who uncovered the blind Sheik.

She said, what. What are we doing? Wiring. Why are we wiring the. The. The World Trade center one in an exercise in 93 that doesn’t seem to make any sense. And then they told everyone, oh, it’s just an exercise, don’t worry. And then they hit the detonation button. So people don’t realize the first 911 was a pre. Wireless live exercise. So. So then that leads into, why can’t we bring these people back that were the ones calling this out, that these things were these creations of mass formation fear, mass formation psychosis. In order to get the American people to do something like create DHS or.

Right. Or do biosurveillance or do national swabbing or whatever it is, national DNA databases. We have to bring back the people who were the whistleblowers, like Kiriakou, John Kiriakou on the CIA side, Jeff Prather on the DEA ATF side. These are things. And so we don’t understand out here. Dan Bongino and Cash Patel. We don’t understand when you, why you don’t do these things. These are easy, simple things that you could do to reinstate these people. So that’s all we’re asking. Yeah. And we, we. I know. I’m pretty sure they know what’s going on. So it’s just a matter of them doing these steps.

But it’s hard. I, I’m, I’m. The one thing that I know that they’re being addressed with is the financial reset and the power broker stuff going on where they’re saying things like we’ll destroy the entire country if you don’t do these things or we’ll destroy your food supply or will. I mean, they’re dealing with pretty big, you know, power broker steps here. Yeah, I agree, I definitely agree with you on the financial system. That seems to be the next thing they wouldn’t have put in that Bitcoin reserve if that wasn’t going to be a step for a financial attack.

I think that’s why that’s the only reason you would put it in. Just to create stability and, you know, resilience against some sort of attack. I think the Black Cat hacking of the health system also. But you know, the fun part, if you follow my substack, george web.substack.com There it is for the, for the advertisement. But we name the people, right? You do great work. We named, we say it’s Alperovich. Al Perovich is the son of the guy who did the, the Russian weapons. We say it was the WannaCry virus. It’s a, it’s a derivative, which is Black Cat.

Here comes Black Cat. It’s going to be Zora and Zora’s group in Kiev. You know, so, so when, when X got attacked and then with denial service in Europe and I think they lost Twitter, France and Twitter, Germany and a couple of others. And then Elon Musk came out and said the IP addresses, the source IP addresses for the DDoS attacks was Ukraine. We said, well, why stop there, Elon? Why don’t we go to the substack and show that it’s Zora, it’s the people we trained. It’s the people we trained. And he’s a big, you know, cyber hacking guy.

To the Las Vegas conference and talks and all this stuff. Stuff. But we trained him to attack Russia, right? And now there Zelensky and everybody is turning those guns around on us and now attacking us with those weapons. Do they know this? They know this. Well, I think DDoS is kind of a denial of service. This, my old area in the Silicon Valley is kind of a brain dead. You know that, that’s not a very sophisticated, it’s kind of like hitting, you know, with a hammer. You quickly disable the source where it’s coming from. What I’m worried about are the much more sophisticated attacks that are hacking and cracking and getting into people’s passwords and, and then scouring and, and sucking up all the information and creating dossiers and so forth.

That’s, that’s where I’m focused. The black hat hacking in the health care system I think is much more insidious because then with, with WannaCry type viruses, which are basically, I encrypt your whole system. So if you’re St. John’s Health over here in Santa Monica now all of your patient records are encrypted and you pay me a hundred million dollars to unencrypt them. Right. That’s what, and that has happened. Those wannacry hacks have happened in Philadelphia and a couple of other places. So those are the ones I worry about. And that’s Zora. And I wrote a couple, about six articles Mark of Zora is where it’s going to be coming from.

So. And it did. And it did. And so, so that’s where Cash and Dan Magino, not having a background in FBI, need to bring back these people like Robin Grits who, you know, she’s the one who’s like boom, boom, boom. You know, Dan Pearl and, and Danny Levison and, and, and the, the, the Somali pirates and you know, I mean she’s been everywhere, done everything you gotta. Or, or the Bill Bennies. Yeah. Even if it’s consulting for three months. Yeah. Bring these experts back in and then let them kind of launch you. Robin wanted to bring back the FBI system for going to the academy because there’s peer review in that 16 weeks.

So that’s how it’s a lot harder for agents to infiltrate, you know, with a whole bunch of peers checking you out over 16 weeks. So there’s some simple things we can do to kind of get the FBI back in shape and get the gun and badge agencies back in shape. You know, you’re not one that thinks that we just need to slash and burn. I mean a lot of people think they just need to be gutted. But you think it’s just a matter of bringing some of these experts back in. Yeah, I don’t, I don’t believe in the gutting eight weeks Robin had.

You know, I think there’s an Executive course for eight weeks. It’s, you know, it’s hard to hump over those obstacle goals when you’re 50 and climb those ropes and stuff. But I, I still think putting everybody through an eight week course course. She was the one who identified there was a back door into the FBI through the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. This is the CIA backdoor. This is how Peter Strzok got in. Right. Peter Strzok never went to the academy. So we could have avoided all that Trump Russia stuff if there would have been a close down of that back door.

So, so close down the back door. Make the executives do at least eight weeks together over the summer or whatever or maybe four weeks and then another four weeks of training, basic training type stuff. Stuff like someone like me going through some basic training actually probably for me. Well, you know, part of it is. Yeah, it would be good for us at our age. Right? Yeah. I mean it sounds a little bit, a little corny in a way because oh, basic training, that’s what you know, Marines do when they’re 18. But there’s a camaraderie that comes around, you know, doing a 25 mile hike with a 60 pound pack or let’s say just five miles, you know, or whatever where you say things when you’re tired, you say things when you’re.

And you get, you, you glom together as a group and you lose your self identity and you get a team identity. We need to re establish a team identity at FBI again. And you know how she’s the expert. I’m not. I’ll throw it over to her on how she would redo it it but, but I don’t hear Bongino saying these things. I think getting rid of all the agents, bad idea because how are you going to stop Rahm Emanuel and, and, and Ibrahim with the baby nuke with the suitcase nuke. The Samsonite option, you know. Are you going to stop the black cat hat? That’s right.

Are you going to stop the attack on the food supply with H5N1 with Peter Hotez, you know, and the Erasmus lab? How are you going to do all these things if you get rid of your eyes and ears, right. These are your agents or your feet, hands and feet on the ground. You got to re establish the esprit de corps. And these gun and badge agencies. Well, and the breakdown of these agencies now that we have these, I mean the woke stuff, right, the, that I think was a specific attack on our culture. I don’t think it was organically.

It’s Too weird. It’s too out there and it’s too effective to take us down. So I think it was a purpose attack on our culture. Yeah, well, there’s no question. It’s, it’s basically, I could be incompetence, you know, and nothing against affirmative action. And nothing against. Sure, yeah. All that because, you know, hey, if you want affirmative action, look at the, you know, the Asian population in the University of California system. You know, they’re the highest scoring in math and highest score, it was low scoring in verbal. Right. So okay, well, they should be the math professors, you know.

Yeah. Well. And you know, when we were younger, I, you know, I always have to go through pluralism training and stuff. Like it’s to get people out of thinking of one. One group is the best. It’s like, no, you gotta look at more of a pluralistic viewpoint and be able to see the, the discrimination happens when you can’t even see when somebody else has merit. Right. And so you have to break that down. And that’s what you’re saying. The Asians are great in this way. And there was a time where we couldn’t see that. And it’s like we have to be able to grow so we can see the merit.

Yeah. I mean, if, if put it this way, I had a 6, 680 on my math. Crooks had 730. There’s kids that have 800. Right. Whether they’re Asian or Indian or for sure or whatever. They should. All I’m saying is it should be merit based. They got the 800 or whatever on their score. USMLE for being a doctor or whatever. US Medical Licensing exams. I’m saying I want a merit Basie. And it’s not necessarily good for the traditional white kid. You know, where the Asian kids are kicking their ass in math. But that’s the way it should be.

Let the, you know, cookie crumble, you know, so, so that’s not racist. That’s a merit based thing. DEI is something very different. Yes. Saying we don’t want you in the medical school unless you failed a science course. Yeah. Unless you, unless you’re incompetent. We don’t want to hire you. That was one of the requirements in getting into the medical school. Unless you fail the science course. I don’t want anyone ever working on me who failed a science course. It really was a requirement. So now you never failed a science course. They wouldn’t let you in. Correct.

That was, oh my God. Had to fail a science course. Now that’s the last thing you want. You know, we had a whole generation of dance majors that were in getting preferential treatment into the medical schools over people who were, you know, 38 MCAT. Right, right. We went through all that. But now we’re going toward seeking out people who are mentally have mental problems, all these things, and, and then also have proven that they’re poor students in science. That’s. That’s a drive for the bottom. Well, that is a drive for the vibe. I just remember when we were fighting so hard just, you know, as a, as a woman in technology, you know, I have an engine, computer science, computer systems degree, and actually I was never discriminated.

I was treated really well, I think, but there were pockets where I saw stuff. But, you know, you, you were. We were always fighting so that you had the ability to be tested on your merit. Right. And, you know, I was in sports when I was young, and that was less. That was not very pretty when we were young, because I was born in, you know, the early 70s. We saw that discrimination. So we were always fighting just to have equal merit. And so now when you see it like this, it’s. It actually pisses you off, right? Because they’re losing sight of what the whole point of it was about.

And I think it’s making a rebound and go the other direction. Yeah, I definitely do. And I’m the, the men competing in women’s sports. I remember I’m. I was born in 1960, so I’m a lot older than you. And. But I remember title nine coming in in 78. And I remember women fighting like mad to get a. A few dollars. And the football coaches, because a lot of the machines and so forth were expensive. How they were sequestering the money and they wouldn’t give the money even though it was a law, you know? Yeah, this is the law, buddy.

And there was a lot of coaches that were the football coach, especially because it’s money intensive, putting money into the stadium or the Astroturf or the practice facility, whatever. And the girls volleyball team, you know, wasn’t even getting volleyballs, you know, so. So I remember. And most of the people I grew up with were fighting tooth and nail to get equivalency. And I don’t even think we’re quite there yet. We’re getting closer. Yeah, yeah. With. Between women and men’s sports. And, you know, I, you know, when I travel, I see these women’s softball teams and so forth that never got any attention.

Now they’re on ESPN3 and you know, they’re, they’re all stars, you know, just as much as the, the guys are now they’re getting to an equivalency. So finally, after 40 years, we’ve gotten to sort of a level, not quite level, but getting closer. And now you’re going to bring in, now you’re doing this, the guys to beat up on these women. And I always said, you know, let’s just make Mike Tyson. And he’s, he’s my age. Let’s just make Mike Tyson the head of the ncaa. And if you win anything in the ncaa, you just have to box three rounds with Mike Tyson when you’re done to see how it feels, to see how it feels to be competing against a male.

Right. In a, in a very physical sport, because it’s, it’s, it’s all kind of fun to be a male and go beat up on, on girls. But when you’re in the ring with Tyson, then all of a sudden your perspective changes. Hey, it’s not so fun to get beat up. And that is the. And, and I think administrators at ncaa. I was, almost took a job with NCAA after I was finished in college playing sports, should also do three rounds with Tyson and then spit out their policies that men should be competing with women. You know, like this guy in Maine.

And so for the gal in Maine, whatever, the governor. So, so those are easy ones, and I think those are the easy social issues we can all agree on. I think that the troublesome ones are those are these files, you know, so anyway. Well, yeah, but just it’s interesting that where that came from, knowing it was, it was a color revolution and it was by design because normal people aren’t going to allow these kinds of things to happen. Right? It’s a head scratcher. Well, dei, for sure. And I think one of the first things that Elon Musk did with Doge, and it’s an easy one for AI, is to look for the three letters dei, you know, just here they all are cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.

So, I mean, if nothing else, if you look@the doge.com, which is the results of the cutting, all of them are mostly dei, and then they’re not a lot of money. It’s going to take a while to build up to a lot of money. But, but I agree with you. They’re so undermining, right? The, these programs are so undermining and race to the bottom that they just eat at the whole fabric of, of the society. It’s like, who would ever put this in and again, I don’t want to go the other way where we lose sight of the fact that we have to have some kind of.

Of exactly. Set aside for young promising but had the disadvantaged. That’s right. Right. We. We have to have some kind of set aside like they do for Federal contracting the 15. And. But that has to be merit based amongst that group and, and realizing that we’re losing out by not helping to build that group either. I mean, but that’s not race to the bottom. That’s like how do we become better everywhere? I mean, it’s just. But that was lost in this DEI that they were doing. DEI was raced to the bottom. And I can tell you if just having to make sure somebody had failed a science course to get into medical school, that’s.

That’s terrible. It’s the most ridiculous. That’s. That example is probably one of the worst I’ve ever heard. That’s incredible. Well, where can people follow you? They. It’s a must follow. Okay. It’s george web.substack.com 2B’s. And then real George Webb won. Unfortunately I had George Webb on Twitter but it got hacked and I lost all my sense. So anyway, it’s real George Webb one the number one. And those are the main two places to follow me. The way I make money. Sarah, we’re all getting 400, 000amonth. Right. From tenant media. Right. The check comes every. Yeah, I’ve been funded.

Yeah. Right. Is $8 a month on paid subsequent. So most all my money comes from the people who decide to support me through paid substack. Yeah. That’s how we earn money. I earn money also having affiliate sales, but everything’s transparent. Do you buy from my affiliates or you support me on substack? So thank you. So go ahead. We have to eat. We have to eat. And it costs money. You’re flying places. You’re going to Ukraine. You’re going all you. It costs money to do what you do. Yeah. And I’m, I’m, you know, speaking of Dugan, I really do respect his courage and he was on the front line and you know, those are the types of folks.

You know, we tried to get Gonzalo Lira out and Lyra wouldn’t come out. And we said as I was going to kill you and. And they killed him. And you know, these. But if I hadn’t had that experience of seeing all the refugees and all the young families leaving in droves and they’re saying they’re never coming back. And this is two years ago. Three years ago now. How many more have left since I was there? That’s right. You know, and. And this thing has to end. That’s right. This thing’s got to stop. And we can’t keep starting new wars.

I mean, we just can’t. It just. If we’re gonna ever become a more civilized humanity. You can’t have wars like this. Right? Endless work. It’s got to go. Yeah. Yeah. It’s so good to be on your show again. Yes. I really appreciate it. You got to come back sooner next time. Okay? Let’s do it. Okay. Talk soon. Thanks. Bye. Bye. Sa.
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