Crackhead Jesus Shares the Truth and the Surgeon who was a Serial Killer w/ Artist Victor Hugo

➡ The speaker discusses their concerns about societal issues, particularly the treatment of children, and the role of parents in these issues. They also promote peptides, a product they’re working with Dr. Diane Kaser on, which they claim can help with weight loss and anti-aging. The speaker then introduces their guest, artist Victor Hugo, who has a unique ability to see music in color due to a condition called synesthesia. Victor shares his experiences, including his interactions with influential people in China and his encounters with a self-proclaimed messiah and a serial killer.
➡ A fortune teller predicted that the speaker would become a famous artist and his sister would marry a man she loved, both of which came true. After Hurricane Wilma devastated his apartment building, his large, news-inspired artwork was spotted by news helicopters. He was living in an apartment owned by a serial killer spinal surgeon, who was also the subject of his artwork. The speaker also had a tenant who believed he was the Messiah and used squatters rights to stay in the property, leading to a lengthy legal battle.
➡ The text tells a story about a person’s struggle with tenant rights, corrupt lawyers, and a biased legal system. The person hired a lawyer to evict a squatter, but the lawyer ended up moving into the property himself. The person then decided to represent themselves in court, but faced a judge who was biased and involved in shady business. The person learned about the corruption in the legal system and the unfair treatment they received.
➡ The speaker discusses their experiences with societal issues, including child abuse, gender changes, and the perceived failure of the legal system. They also share their controversial art project, “Crackhead Jesus,” which led to misunderstandings and threats. The speaker suggests that the system is broken and that people are often misguided in their trust of authority figures. They also touch on the topic of human trafficking and the misuse of non-profit organizations.
➡ The speaker shares his experience at the Naval Academy, where he was pushed to extreme physical and mental limits. He was paired with a weaker roommate, Thomas Vallo, and was pressured to eliminate him due to his lack of physical strength. The speaker resisted, resulting in his own punishment. He also mentions a disturbing initiation practice involving a family sacrifice to rise in rank, which he refused to participate in.
➡ The text discusses the speaker’s experiences with psychopaths in the military, the role of order followers in society, and the importance of creativity. It criticizes the suppression of creativity in schools and the obedience expected in professions like nursing and medicine. The speaker also shares their journey from homelessness to fame as an artist, highlighting the unexpected turns life can take and the darker side of the art world, including money laundering and sex.
➡ The speaker shares their experiences in the art world, highlighting the elitism and corruption they’ve encountered. They discuss how talent is often overlooked in favor of money and influence, and how they’ve refused to compromise their integrity for success. They also mention their unique approach to art, painting from their feelings rather than following traditional methods. Lastly, they touch on their experiences in China and their belief in living fearlessly.
➡ The text discusses the concept of ‘compassionate wealth’ and ‘soul currency’, emphasizing the importance of helping others and spreading positivity. It shares the author’s personal journey from escaping China with minimal funds to surviving on donations and producing shows that inspire others. The author also recounts his unexpected journey into the music industry, performing with famous bands. The text ends with a chilling story about a serial killer landlord, highlighting the importance of compassion and empathy in a world filled with greed and materialism.
➡ The speaker discusses a dangerous situation where a woman fell down an elevator shaft due to faulty doors. He suggests that the building owner knowingly left the elevators in a dangerous state. The speaker also talks about his art left behind in China and his hope to retrieve it as a cultural ambassador. He mentions his desire to establish peace with China and Russia, and his attempts to contact Donald Trump for this purpose.

I think it’s something that they’re putting in the water. And I’ve been dealing with this in, in the art that I do and it’s called modern art gonzo journalism because like I said, I’m keeping a diary of the world on canvas. And I’m noticing that in particular in the United States, what’s happened is the people have been so placated and so pacified that even though they see the ultimate injustice, which is the children, the most innocent among us, being abused, they are afraid to stand up because they’ve become afraid of words. I mean the fact that mothers are allowing their children to be groomed in schools and that fathers are standing by and watching the mothers.

Yeah, I agree. But the mothers stood up during COVID way more than the fathers did. And now they’re stepping back a little bit more because there’s the mother. Mothers still have that instinct. There’s some, some are having them get sex changes. So I think that you’re right. The mothers who are doing all that grooming and sex change stuff, something happened to their brains too. You’re right. Just a brief interruption of the program to talk to you about Peptides. I’m working with Dr. Diane Kaser to bring you guys Peptides. I’ll have a link below. So if you have any questions on any of this, you can join her tribe for a dollar and get all your questions answered.

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Welcome to business Game Changers. I’m Sarah Westdall. I have the artist Victor Hugo coming to the program. He has really interesting story. We’re going to talk about his art background and he gets into this. I was going to have him come on and talk about his experience in China. We do a little bit because he ended up being with some of the top people in China and overheard some of their plans for what they’re doing geopolitically and we will get into that in a later time. But what happened is he ended up started talking about his experience with this crackhead who thought he was the Messiah who’s called, he called him Crackhead Jesus.

And he did a documentary on it and he talks about it and all his reactions from and how he went through this experience and then his experience with the serial killer who was a surgeon. He explains it was just really interesting story. But as an artist he can see frequencies in color. So he ended up being on stage with the top artists, top bands in the last 20 years interpreting their music on stage with art because he sees the music in color. And just a very interesting. You’ll hear all about his stories and. But his story about the crackhead Jesus and the legal system is he’s a good storyteller.

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Hi, Victor. Welcome to the program. Hello, Sarah. It’s nice to see you again. Yeah. You have an amazing talent that people don’t know about. Well, people. There’s probably a lot of people that know about it, but a lot of my audience doesn’t know about it. Can you. You’re an artist, but you’re a unique artist because you can, you can feel or you hear music in color. What is it that you do? I have a synesthesia, so I hear wavelengths and frequencies and color. But I also am shameless in the sense that when I became an artist, I only did it to just kind of relax at the end of the night.

And I was painting just as a hobby. But as it would have it, I’m going to tell you. All right, check this out. So I go to. At the time, I was a business owner and I was living in Miami in a place called North Bay Village. And there was a Greek restaurant there that my sister and I used to love going to. So we would go there, and the owner was a person who could read fortunes. And she also read the coffee. I don’t know if you know, but the, the Greeks, they take it and they put it upside down and then they read the bottom of the coffee thing.

So I’ve never really believed in any of that stuff. I. But she, she was a friend of ours. So she said, hey, listen, let me read your palm. Let me read the coffee stuff. So she ends up reading my stuff, and she goes, oh, wow. She goes, you’re going to be a famous artist. You’re going to be one of the most famous artists of this generation. And at the time, I, like I said that was the last thing that I would even imagine. So my sister and I were laughing. But she also predicted that my sister was going to meet a guy that she was going to fall in love with and end up marrying.

And that ended up happening, too. So, I mean, like I said, I’m not really one to believe in fortune tellers and stuff, but she got both of those things right. So a month later, Hurricane Wilma hit Florida, and it happened to hit my building in such a manner that it quite literally devastated it. You can look, there’s still articles, I’m sure on the Internet about it, about the North Bay Village Grandview palace building. And so this was kind of before the Internet really took off. I think it was 2005. And so the building was devastated. It looked like a bomb had hit it because all the windows.

It was. It was a just a clear window building. But not only did it blow out all the windows, it also blew out all the walls. It turns out that the walls were just drywall. So it was really creepy because you could see from one end of the building to the other. But that also meant that your apartment. You could see clear into the. Your neighbor’s apartment. So you had no privacy whatsoever. All the walls were gone. So anyway, it was a disaster zone. And so what happened was the CNN helicopters, the Telemunda helicopters, were flying over the building, and they were focusing.

What ended up happening is they saw my artwork, which was kind of large, very big artwork, and it was dangling from the balcony, and it was also dangling next to refrigerators. And it just was like an awkward scene to see artwork. And my artwork was weird because I paint what’s called modern art, gonzo journalism. I. I paint the news, and the news isn’t always. The news isn’t always pretty. I could. I also paint the flowers and stuff like that, but I. I’m keeping a diary of the world on canvas. So they focused in on the artwork.

And at the time, I was doing a piece about a serial killer spinal surgeon who happened to be the owner of that building. His name is Dr. Charles C. Edwards, works for Mercy Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. Were you in that. Was that your apartment building or just the artwork was in there? Yeah. Okay. That was. You were living. Yeah. Wow. You were living in the. In the apartment where the serious. That the serial killer owned that you had the artwork about. God. Did you know that? Yeah, because the people in the building. I was the homeowner’s representative of the building.

There were about 1500 residents living in there. So they would come up to me and they would say, hey, Victor, something’s up with this doctor. Because you’re supposed to give 48 hours notice if you’re the landlord before just going into somebody’s apartment. But people would tell me that they would wake up to make coffee, and they would go into the kitchen and he was there. Or women would tell me that they would wake up to go to the bathroom, and he was in the apartment. And so by the time anybody called the police or anything, he had already gotten out.

He had the keys to come and go into the apartments. And of course, it turns out that the sheriff of this small town in North Bay Village. He was Scott Israel, who turned out to be the police officer who was in the Parkland Valentine’s Day Massacre, who was then up on stage with Hillary Clinton with that we should take away the guns from people. And so I’d reported this to Scott Israel. I said, hey, listen, I’ve got people coming up to me, and they’re telling me that this is happening. But it turns out, as usual, things are in cahoots.

The doctor was in cahoots with the sheriff. And so I was trying to report this to people, and I actually made a movie called Crackhead Jesus the movie which was about this. And this was part of what’s called the Crackhead Jesus Trials. Yeah. Wow. Did he kill people in that apartment building? Well, check this out. He tried to kill people in that apartment building. This is the strategy. I learned about the mind of a serial killer. And so what ended up happening was I was a landlord, and one of my tenants got high on crack, went to work, got on his desk, and he proclaimed to all his employees that he was the new messiah and that they were now his disciples.

So his wife calls me in a panic, and she goes, oh, my God, Victor. My husband lost his job. He’s got a Jesus complex. And so I said, okay, let me go check this out. Being married to somebody, and suddenly they’re, like, thinking they’re the Messiah. Anyways, keep going. And the guy was my best tenant. He always paid on time. He was. Well, he thought he was the Messiah. He was a good person. Okay, keep going. Well, that’s. That’s. Until he thought he was the Messiah. Okay, what. When I went to the house to see what was going on, he answers the door in his white robe in his Speedos and his gut hanging out.

And I said, hey. I said, hey, what’s going on? He goes, nothing. I said, well, your wife told me that you lost your job. I’m here to collect the rent. He says, jesus, don’t pay the rent. And I was like, listen, mister, unless I get footage of you walking across that pool, bank of America is not going to believe that I’m renting to the new Messiah. So he. So what did he say? So he brings me to. Yeah, he brings me back to the pool, and he sits me down, takes out a bottle of Jack Daniels that he was drinking, and he offers me some.

And then he starts bringing me down the rabbit hole of what he called the litigation vortex and how he had found out that the justice system was corrupt and that there was an agenda. 20, 30, and that there was a DEP. Regulation plan and that they were going to use the justice system to bring down the United States by undoing the Constitution. So, of course, in that time, I was in my 30s. I was idealistic, and I was really just materialistic. I wanted the rent. I really. It sounded like he was crazy to me. Well, he was saying true stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s the thing. I think he lost his mind when he found out from the people that he was dealing with, because he was at a high level. And so then he goes, you know, I’m going to prove it to you, Victor. He goes, there’s a thing called squatters rights. He goes, I’m going to stay in this property, and you’re not going to be able to do anything about it. He goes, if you try to change the locks, I’ll have you arrested. If you turn off the water or the electric or you try to do anything to me, he goes, I’m going to have you arrested.

And he goes, I’m going to prove it to you. By the time I’m done, you’re going to end up paying me to leave your property. He goes, I’m going to hire the best Jewish attorneys here, and I’m going to keep you tied up in what’s called the litigation vortex. So, of course, I didn’t believe that. But anyway. Right? Yeah, he totally did. He kept me tied up in the courts for years. And by the end of the time, he actually took, like, a sock. He put cement in it. He put it in the pool filter. So I had to.

The pool was destroyed. He threw cement down the toilet. So, like, basically, he destroyed the whole property. And so I go and I hire this law firm, Alexander Condi and Aaron R. Cohen. And I tell them the story like I told you. And so the lawyer says, let me get this straight. You’re hiring a Jewish law firm to evict Crackhead Jesus? Yeah. Yeah. So. So the thought hit me at the time. I was like, wow, that’s the first time I heard Crackhead Jesus. And I said, wow, that really. That’s strange. But, yeah, it’s true. So, anyway, long story short, when I went to court, the judge told me, the judge says, no, listen, you know, you’re the landlord.

You’ve got money. I’m not going to throw this guy out. He’s lost his job. He’s got to, you know, just go through the system. You know, what people have done so that. Hold on. You got to continue this story. But what other people have Done. Yeah. They’ve gotten the other tenants to complain about them, and they use tenant rights, you know, because that’s a squatter’s tenant rights. But then the other squatters and the other tenants have rights, too. And so what people have done is they’ve, like, had family members or something that would move in and then complain about that guy, and then those tenant rights would overturn that.

His tenant rights. That’s how they got around. People are starting to get around stuff. But anyways, keep going. That’s interesting. Yeah. This was back in 2005, though, and, like, nobody knew. I had no idea when I thought I was. When that stuff starts happening, your whole world gets turned upside down. California. Gosh, you can’t believe that these things are happening to you. It seems bizarre. And I would go before the judge, and then I started understanding the racket that is the court, because the judge works with the lawyers. And basically what they do is they just use it as a way of making money because the judge makes money off the cases.

And so I got an education, the whole legal system. Then when the crackhead Jesus finally was evicted, he mailed the keys to the lawyers, Alexander Condi and Aaron R. Cohen. So it turns out that I’m getting ready to move into the place and fix it up. But the attorney ended up taking the keys and moving into the property. I said, hey, listen, why’d you do that? He goes, the one you hired? Yeah, my. The one I hired? Yeah. He took the keys and he just took it upon himself to move in. So why’d you do that? He goes, oh, well, I figured you’ve got a couple of properties, you wouldn’t mind.

I said, well, actually, I do mind, because I was getting ready to fire you because you were a lousy attorney. I said, now, not only are you my attorney, but you’re also my tenant. But he says, no, this is what he says. He says, well, I figured, you know, you could keep me on retainer and the money that I would pay you for rent and for first, last, security. I could just do your legal work. I said, well, I’m not getting sued, and I’m. I don’t need your legal work, and I don’t want your legal work.

I go, you know what? You’re gonna fire him? Yeah. I go, let’s do this. Makes sense if it was. If it was good. Keep going. I go, let’s do this. I said, why don’t you evict yourself? And then after you’re evicted, you’re fired. And he Goes, I can’t do that. That’s a conflict of interest. I go, exactly. That’s exactly what you created for me, a conflict of interest. So he goes, listen, you’re better off allowing me to live here because if you don’t, I’ll keep you tied up in the litigation vortex because I’ll just file frivolous lawsuits against you and it’ll cost you more money to.

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And so I represented myself as a pro se attorney because I was trying to show the people that it’s better to have to represent yourself in court than to have incompetent or corrupt lawyers. I agree with that. So I went to the court and I ended up going the first day with a camera because like I said, I was making a film of this, I was doing a documentary. And when I’m filming, the judge starts screaming at me. He, he stopped the court case that was going on before mine because you know when you go to court, there’s other cases going on before your court comes up.

So I’m filming and he goes, excuse me, hold on a second. He goes, stop this. He goes, who are you? What are you doing with that camera? I said, oh, I gave him my name. I said, I’m here for the next trial. I was just gonna, I’m making a movie. So I’m Documenting this. He goes, I don’t give you permission to show my name or likeness because you’re not allowed to film inside this courtroom. I said, why? I need proof of what’s going on. He goes, no, you don’t have permission. He goes, as a matter of fact, get out of here.

So anyway, I come back in without the camera and he tells me, first of all, when I, he asked me for my name, I say, my name is Victor Hugo Vacca Jr. And he goes, I don’t believe you. I go, that’s my name. Like, why would I be so stupid to come in front of the court and lie to the judge? Because I don’t believe you. He goes, I don’t like that you were filming me. He goes, if you use my name or likeness, I’m going to hold you in contempt of court. He says, as a matter of fact, I’m going to delay this until you bring me your birth certificate because I want to make sure that that’s actually your name.

And if that’s not your name, I’m going to throw you in jail for contempt of court for lying to this courtroom. I said, you, Honor, I asked you to recuse yourself because right off the bat here you’re already accusing me of being a liar. And we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. He says, no, come in. I guess, I think 30 days. So I thought this was strange. I took the guy’s name. It’s Judge Donald W. Hafield. I started looking this guy up and this guy was involved in some really shady business. There was a police that murdered a 16 year old black kid in the Delray beach area.

And this, he, he somehow got money from the. Somebody affiliated with the police officer. And so he should have recused himself from the case because it was a conflict of interest, especially in a murder case involving a police officer. And so the whole community started picketing and making a big fuss over it because they said it was racist. And so the judge said that it went against his fiber of his being to recuse himself on that case. So right off the bat I said, wow, this is a dirty judge. Because he’s basically. Yeah. So what happened then? So he finally recused himself, but I started looking into him more and he turns out he was also the judge that was presiding over the Jeffrey Epstein case in Florida.

Wow. Where he got. How did you have all these connections? How did you end up getting all this? Okay, so did you come back with your birth certificate ever? I did, yeah. Did he believe I realized what Happened then. Yeah. Yeah. But then what ended up happening was as I’m walking up the stairs with Alexander Conde and Aaron R. Cohen, who were the law firm that I hired to evict crack, and Jesus, who were now keeping me tied up in the litigation vortex, Alexander Conde looks at me and he says, hey, you might as well just give up, because my father is friends with the judge, and they had dinner last night, so you don’t stand a chance.

And I was like, I don’t believe this. Again, I was idealistic. And I actually thought that I had a chance. But, no, it turns out that the judge was totally corrupt. And he was the judge that was involved in the Jeffrey Epstein case in Florida, where he, you know, Jeffrey Epstein was still able to procure girls because they gave him release during the day, and he would just have to go to sleep at some halfway house at night. It was really. It was a really. It was a really weird deal. He was doing human trafficking, abusing and having sex with underage girls, and they didn’t give a crap.

And they did that. And we’re wild. We’re in. Yeah. And nobody has pitchforks going after these people. I don’t know why, but. But they don’t. Yeah, because the whole system is corrupt. The judges are corrupt, too. Well, the judges. I don’t. You know what? At one point, the law went into the hands of the people back in the Wild west, and people like that didn’t make it very far. The fact that everything is so, like, structured now, people like that are in bed in the system, and no, people are afraid to take the law in their own hands.

I don’t know. Sometimes the Wild west might have been better than what we have now, because now we have. And you embedded evil. It’s. I think it’s something that they’re putting in the water. And I’ve been dealing with this in. In the art that I do, and it’s called modern art gonzo journalism, because, like I said, I’m keeping a diary of the world on canvas. And I’m noticing that in particular in the United States, what’s happened is the people have been so placated and so pacified that even though they see the ultimate injustice, which is the children, the most innocent among us, being abused, they are afraid to stand up because they’ve become afraid of words.

I mean, the fact that mothers are allowing their children to be groomed in schools and that fathers are standing by and watching the mothers. Yeah, I agree. But the mothers stood up during COVID way More than the fathers did. And now they’re stepping back a little bit more because there’s the mother. Mothers still have that instinct. There’s some. Some are having them get sex changes. So I think that you’re right. The mothers who are doing all that grooming and sex change stuff, something happened to their brains too. You’re right. And it’s very strange. We’re in. Some people say these are the end times because like you said, it’s not natural for a mother to not have that mother instinct with their child.

They should be protecting their children and not allowing them to have these sex changes. But there’s some kind of a syndrome where people end up making pretend that their children are sick so that they could get the sympathy. I forgot what the name of it is, but it’s a mental. That’s what my. A friend of mine believes. Like I have a show I just did with a father who was fighting his. His ex wife whose son who started at two and a half, now he’s 12, to get a sex change. And she believes. She’s the one that helped me get in contact with them, but she believes that the mother has that syndrome, whatever the heck that is.

Yeah. That’s why they need to be doing psychological evaluations on these mothers before the child gets anything. It’s like maybe the mother’s nuts. The thing is, though, once you start going down the rabbit hole, and that’s what I started doing, my whole life changed when I met Crackhead Jesus. Also to the point where I started getting. I started getting death threats from Christians because Christians were coming up to me because I was promoting the film Crackhead Jesus, the movie. And they would come up to me and they would say, I should kick your effing ass for saying that about my Lord and Savior Jesus.

Realize they didn’t realize I was talking about literally a crackhead Jesus, but they thought that you were. You were insulting them. Blaspheming. Yeah, yeah, they were calling me a blasphemer. Oh, that’s too bad. When they would. They would get in my face and try to get physically violent with me. And I would say, whoa, whoa, whoa, what would Jesus do? And it was interesting because I ended up making friends with these people. I don’t know if you’ve heard of the Westboro Baptist Church. They’re famous for picketing in front of military funerals and gay funerals and stuff because they.

They hold up signs that say, God hates fags. God hate baby killers. I don’t like. They’re a West. They’re a West Virginia church. And. And they’re. They’re pretty extreme. Anyway, I was promoting Crackhead Jesus the movie at the super bowl in Tampa Bay, and I was promoting the. The film by making clips for it. So you’ll see me. If you go on YouTube and you type in Crackhead Jesus the movie trailer, you’ll see the clips that I made there. And they’re actually upset at me. But then once I explained to them, hey, listen, judge not lest ye be judged.

You’re over here thinking that I’m blaspheming Jesus, but what would Jesus do? Jesus would ask people first before condemning them. And then once they realized that, by the end, we were shaking hands and. Well, but they realized what it was that it represented. And they actually agreed with you at that point. Right? I mean, they’re like, oh, okay, this makes sense. Sense. Yeah. But what’s interesting about this experience, and this is what I like about an art being an artist. I’m a performance artist as well. But you gotta get back to. Once you’re done with this really interesting sideline, you gotta get back to what your talent is, but keep going.

Okay, so my talent is that I hear wavelengths and frequencies. I know, but keep going. This is super interesting. That’s why I’m like, this is. Your Crackhead Jesus story is super interesting. And then we got to get back into your super interesting talent. So. So, well, I’ll bring it back to it, because everything is everything. So what ended up happening was when I had that relationship with the serial killer spinal surgeon, and I had the Crackhead Jesus wasn’t moving out of my house and was costing me a lot in legal fees. People told me, hey, you should just hire the Hell’s Angels.

The Hell’s Angels, give them some money. They’ll go over there and they’ll, you know, bring bats with them, and they’ll. They’ll get the Wild West. Yeah. I ended up learning that it turns out that, yeah, hiring the Hell’s Angels to get rid of these people is the better option. At the time. At the time, I was trying to do it. Like I said, I was idealistic. I was young. I believed in the system. Now I realize the system is broken. So, yeah, I’m not giving any kind of advice, but if I had to do it over again, I’d have paid the Hell’s Angels.

Well, yeah, my dad was talking, because he grew up in Chicago, and he was talking about how when the mob ran it, there was actually things would get Done quicker than when. Now all these lawyers do it, and they doing the same thing the mob did, but now you have to pay all this money, and it’s bureaucratic, and they have it tied down in the system, whereas the mob could get stuff done really quickly. And the mob isn’t good either, but we don’t want that either. But that was. That’s how bad things are right now. Well, it turns out that’s what crackhead Jesus told me.

He says, victor, I’m going to introduce you to the legal mafia. And again, I didn’t believe this because I was brought up, like most people, to believe in the system, that the cops are good, that the military is good, that there’s no traitors in the military, that you can trust the police, you know, And I think people are starting to realize now that you’re on your own. If you’re expecting to call the police, don’t expect them to save you. Just expect them to show up and maybe take notes and. And say, okay, so what happened? Oh, you got raped.

Okay, did it hurt? Oh, okay. Did you see him? Did it hurt? Yeah. Did you like it? Really? Okay. I mean, it’s just ridiculous. It’s so. It’s so insane. So what ended up happening was I went to the serial killer spinal surgeon who you could look them up. He’s the inventor of the spinal screw. And People magazine actually wrote an article about him. And in the film that I plan on making, because I already have the script done, there’s a scene that I want to take out of the story that he told the reporter for People magazine.

When he was doing the surgery, which was groundbreaking with the spinal screw, he had to have the body open completely. Right. So he says that the body was open and turned this way, and he could actually see straight through the body to the other side and see the surgeon that was on the other side. He said it was surreal. And so I thought that was amazing, his description. But the weird thing about these serial killers that I’ve learned in meeting the serial killer spinal surgeon Dr. Charles C. Edwards, is that they disguise themselves as philanthropists. And so you’ll notice that with Anthony Fauci and a lot of these other people who quite literally have candles as effigies of them, People worship Anthony Fauci.

They think he’s a good guy. You know, he’s like, people are nuts. Yeah. I mean, the NGOs killed more people. Yeah, well, we have more. I’ve covered this a lot with the human trafficking, that those. All those human. Not All, I don’t want to say all because they’re not all bad. A lot of them are just fronts for the human traffickers themselves. They do do some work. They get rid of their competition. So it makes them look great because they really ruthlessly get rid of their competition. And that’s what we have going on. All these NGOs that are getting money funneled through the government, they’re getting a ton.

There are a lot of them, not all we have to be careful, but a lot of them are criminal organizations. Money being funneled through the government for different purposes. And that’s so sad, Sarah, because the thing is, most people, like you said, the lower level, their hearts are in the right place and they really think that they’re making a difference. But in order to get to the higher levels. And I’ve noticed this because when I was at the Naval Academy, I was being groomed to be a psychopath. I was being groomed to be a murderer without feeling, without compassion.

And that’s what’s happening right now. Okay, let me correct, let me ask you. So you. Are you saying that they identified you to be that or is that just part of the process of, of getting people to go into war and kill people? Well, I have to distinguish. Yeah, yeah, they, they identified me because of the fact that I. My last name is Vacca. I happen to be roommated with a guy named Thomas Valo. Vallo. So Thomas Valo was the weakest link in the chain. He was put in there because of nepotism. His father was a high ranking Air force.

And so even though this guy was 98 pounds wet and this was before the DEI hires where you don’t have to be able to do any push ups or anything. This was back in the day when you really had real. Yeah, it was real military. And so they noticed immediately that this guy couldn’t even do five push ups. So their job was to get rid of the weakest link. Because if you’re in combat and everything, you really have to be with strong people. Because war is not a game. Yeah, but they put them into. Well, they didn’t have positions of medical or computers or.

I mean, because there’s so many different options now. But anyways, keep going. No, I was at the Naval Academy and there’s a thing called plebe summer. And plebe summer is the entire summer. You’re basically going through major indoc. Mean there’s something called hell week where they don’t allow you to sleep. What they do is they, they keep you within 14 minutes. And just before you hit REM, they’ll come in with a metal garbage can and a, a stick, a baton, and they’ll wrap it around like that. And you just wake up and you have to get up because they’re putting you in a, in a wartime situation.

If you’re fighting a war out there in the Ukraine or in Vietnam, you can’t really get a good night’s rest, you know, so they have to have you on alert at all times. Anyway, that was the toughest week of my life. I ended up doing it twice because I went to the prep school at the Newport Naval Base in Newport, Rhode island, across from the, the war College. And then I did it again at Annapolis, Maryland, in the US Naval Academy. So, yeah, it was two weeks of hell. But anyway, the thing was, they had to get rid of them because they had to get rid of him.

He was the weakest thing. So they told me, listen, you need to kill this guy. And I said, I thought we weren’t supposed to leave anybody behind. They said, yeah, but he’s the weakest link and you’re his roommate, so you need to kill him because he would cause other people to get killed. And they figured while, see me looking, thinking that, trying to figure out a good reason, there’s no good reason. They could have just sidelined them, like put him in a job where he could really contribute. Instead, they did this. Yeah. So I thought they were kidding.

Yeah, I thought they were testing me, but they were dead serious. So I didn’t kill them. And what ended up happening was they said, okay, for every five push ups he can’t do, you’re going to do 10. And we’re not going to punish him, we’re going to punish you. So I ended up becoming what they call a screen. And so this guy, it was really weird because you’re, you’re screening. He’s the. And you’re screening him. Is that what it was? Yeah, yeah, but it was. And, and they would do this to make me hate him so that I could then kill him.

What they would do is, as I’m being punished, doing like push ups and all this other stuff, they would have me put on several layers of sweatpants and sweatshirts and then they would take me over to where they did the laundry so it became kind of like a sauna. And I would have to put a. What are they, those kegs, you know, where they put the beer. I’d have to put a keg and do running in place and While I was doing that, he was standing next to me and they were giving him sweets. Like they would give him chocolate and they would give him soda.

Didn’t he. I mean, he was your roommate. Did he question it? I mean, he had a brain. Yeah, but the thing is, it, I don’t know, he was just standing there watching me eating and having a good time while I’m being punished because of him. He didn’t connected. He would cry at night all the time. It was horrible having him as a roommate because, I mean, it’s like they were. A guy knew that they were abusive to him mentally, I would imagine. I mean, these guys were psychopaths doing this to you, so. Totally, totally. And I told him, I said, man, why don’t you just quit, man? Just quit.

He says, if I quit, my father will kill me. What ends up happening is these guys that are in the military, their fathers especially if you get to be as high ranking as his father was, they’re usually psychopaths too. You don’t get to be a general or anything like that, or high ranking unless you’re some kind of. They call them Cherry Marines. I don’t know if you know what a Cherry Marine is, but I don’t know if. I don’t know if your audience wants to hear this, but let’s just say that they are made to do like what Meek Mills did with P.

Diddy. You know, P. Diddy would rape, rape these rappers and stuff. So that’s what they do with these Marines. A lot of the guys, I’m not saying all of them, but a lot of the Navy SEALs. But there could be. Yeah, not all. Yeah. Yes. Not all, but. But there are a lot of people that you see that are like, you know, like really tough guys, but they’re actually. That’s why they call them Cherry Marines. Yeah, you have to get initiated into this club. It’s like a power thing. It’s more of like a dominant thing than a gay thing, you know? Sure.

So anyway, now, now in the military they’re allowing gays and it’s just completely like out of control. But anyway, so I said, you know, you should just quit, man. And he wouldn’t quit. Anyway. One day, finally he just disappeared and I don’t know what happened to the guy. That’s why I’ve. I’ve always put out on my show that the guy that they wanted me to kill was Thomas Vallow. Because I’m seeing if this guy is still alive and if he’s out there, I’d love to interview him and find out what happened to him, you know, because.

Too bad. Yeah, that would happen. Sometimes people would just like disappear and you don’t know what happened. Was a high level ranking officer or something, you would think he’d. So have you tried to find him? Well, like I said, whenever I I talk about it. If there’s anybody who knows Thomas Vallow, who was in the class of 1993 at the US Naval Academy, have him contact me at vhv I I press s n dot com but then check this out. More tests that they give you. They also wanted me to kill my mother while I was on break.

And I don’t know if you’ve heard about this, but there’s things that you have to do in order to get in with Hollywood and with the music industry. And you’ll notice Kanye west talked about it. Bill Cosby lost his son. Kanye West. I think he lost his mother or something. Yeah, there, there’s, there’s like some. You have to do a sacrifice of a family member in order to be taken up at rank. And again, it’s because they want to see how much of a psychopath you are, how committed, how much you’re willing to. How committed you are.

Yes. And also because this way they have something against you. So they wanted me while I went on one of my breaks because they would give us like Christmas break or spring break or something like that. They said poison her do in a way that you could get away with it. But we’ll know because we’ll have to give you time off for bereavement. But we’ll know that we told you to do it and we figured that you’ve. That you did it anyway. I didn’t kill my mother either. But it made me realize, man, these guys, that’s how they test you.

They. I was being trained by psychopaths. You had a really psychopath. Yeah. And I don’t think they’re all like that because otherwise there’d be people, there’s a lot of good people that go in that would come out going f you. I’m not doing this. So I think that you just happen to get funneled into one of the bad funnels. Right. And I know there are bad funnels because we know all of her. I’ve been, I’ve heard about them, but I don’t think they all are. Otherwise I would. Well, the ones more. But yeah, I believe the ones, the ones that, the ones that aren’t psychopaths, Sarah.

And this is the the problem are order followers and what we have now. And the reason why the United States is in such a mess is because there’s too many order followers. And it’s not just in the military. It’s also in the hospitals. The nurses that every morning wake up and go to work and they, you know, make breakfast for their kids and send them off to school, and then they have no problem going to the clinic or going to the hospital and injecting 20 to 40 children a day. The nurses with vaccines. The nurses fought back more than the doctors did.

And that’s because I did a whole show on it that why were the nurses speaking out and more willing to speak out than the doctors? And I think I did it with macus, and we talked about it because it was. It’s a real situation. But you’re right, there’s a lot of them that didn’t speak out either. And they’re the doctors. We analyze and thought about it and said, well, they have a license. They feel like they can’t lose their. Their livelihood, and they’re stupid. I mean, I don’t know. I. I just. I have to throw that in there.

And the nurses, they might be stupid, too, but there was more of them that stood up, and maybe they didn’t feel like their license was as valuable or they had protection from their family, or they just were the ones closest to the patients, so they couldn’t do it. Their. Their conscious was high, consciousness was higher. But, yeah, I just. I have to throw that in there because that’s very real, that the nurses were fought back more than the doctors did. I agree with you that it’s very real, but it’s really disgusting, in my opinion, because there’s no excuse for that.

If you’re a doctor, you’re supposed to be taking the Hippocratic oath, which means that you are not supposed to harm your patient. And again, going back to what the problem that I see and what I noticed at a young age, because I was 18 and 19 when I first got into the military, and I started learning around me. Okay, there’s a lot of psychopaths, and you can tell that instinctively when you’re surrounded by psychopaths, because these people were not normal. Can you see that? Can you see that with color? Can you feel that? Because you. If you can feel the music in color, you must be able to feel the frequency of people, too.

I’m definitely able to tell if you’re good or bad. It’s kind of like seeing auras. But I think most People have that. I think the problem is that most people. And this is what’s interesting, too, Sarah. Notice that when you go to school and you’re in kindergarten or in first grade, they allow you to scribble. They allow you to doodle. They allow you to use your creative mind. But then once you start getting into second and third grade, you get in trouble for doodling. They don’t want you to think that way. And the problem is that we are supposed to think that way.

We are supposed to be creative. So they stifle your creativity. And whenever I do work with children, I notice that children look at me like I’m some kind of like. Like a freak. Because they’re like, wow, why do you do this? Like, why are you able to do this? And I go, what do you mean? They go, like, we’re not allowed to just scribble and doodle. Like, we get in trouble for that. I go, well, that’s a shame, because you really should be. So they. They force you to grow up, but you grow up the way that they want you to grow up.

Follow orders. Do as you’re told. Don’t question authority. That’s right. And when you’re. When you’re a child and you’re scribbling and you’ll see it. Anybody who has a child, the paintings, the beautiful paintings that your children do, they don’t paint within the lines. They don’t. They have used their imagination. And I. One of my favorite quotes and what I try to emulate is Picasso said that his entire career, he tried to paint like a child. And so that’s why when people look at my artwork, they’re like, oh, my God, your stuff looks like a child could do it.

I go, wow, thank you. You. That’s the greatest compliment you could give me. Because the hardest thing to do is to just be like a child. Because when you’re a child, you don’t care what people think, you know? Yeah. You don’t, you know, like, kids just scribble that. And they’re like, look, Mommy. Now, if you’re the kind of mother that’s heartless, and you go, oh, my God, that’s disgusting. That doesn’t look like a human. That looks like, you know. I mean, oh, my God, you’re raising a child that’s going to be, like, always just. Just, you know.

But there’s people like that, you know, My son used to do. He. He’d draw stick figures, and then he’d do circles. And I’m like, what are the Circles, like on the legs. Those were the kneecaps. I, I think that’s client. I thought it was a cool. Right. Thing. Yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s the mind that, that’s allowing us to think the way we’re. We’re supposed to. We have been so trained, and it’s such a shame, Sarah, really, They. I, I think everybody should. Should paint. I really, I encourage that. Even people. I have people say, oh, I wish I could paint up, but I’m not good at painting.

I’m like, how do you know? Have you tried it? Just very therapy. Yeah. If you can be creative like that and let go versus people think it has to be realistic in order to be good. But okay, so you can see in color. But what got you famous, I mean, maybe that was cnn, kind of really helped catapult you, but you were, you were on stage with some of the most famous musicians doing your artwork based because you could see color. So you would, you would do your artwork while they were performing. Yeah. Okay. So this goes back to the serial killer spinal surgeon.

Because when life changes and people know this, life changes so quickly and you don’t even realize it. So a hurricane hit. Next thing you know, I went from being a businessman who rented properties to a crackhead. Jesus. To all of a sudden being all over the news and on the front page of the Miami Herald and having a microphone put in my face by the reporter saying, are you the artist? Are you the artist? And I’m like, I’m homeless right now. You know, like, I’m trying to deal with this hurricane situation. And they’re like, yes, yes, but we see your artwork.

What inspired you to do that? It’s so strange. And I was like. Anyway, then I forgot what his name was. Abramovich. The owner of the Broadway Gallery in soho, New York, saw the clip on television and he invited me to do an exhibit with Jeff Koons. Wow. And I had no idea who Jeff Koons was at the time. Turns out Jeff Koons is the Guinness Book of World record holder for the highest selling artwork of a living artist. I think he sold this stuff for over a hundred million dollars. Wow. He’s the guy who did. Did the.

The Blue Poodle. So. But if you did. Yeah, but if you ended up showing your stuff with him and people are willing to pay mega bucks for his stuff. Did you make a lot of money with that? I mean, because they’re ready to fork out more money just because you’re next to him. Well. Well, these are the Things that you. I mean, you don’t want to say it. Okay, what do you learn? What’d you learn? What you learn? What. What I learned, and again, I can’t speak for everybody, is that it turns out that the art world is about money laundering and sex.

So, first of all, when I got there to the Broadway Gallery, I had no idea who Jeff Koons was. So when I was introduced to him, I had no idea who he was. I was like, hey, how you doing? What’s your name? And he looked at me like, what do you mean? What? My. I’m Jeff Koons. I was like, hey, how you doing? I’m Victor Hugo, you know? And he was, like, surprised that I didn’t know who he was. Was. It’s like, how’d you get here? Because essentially it was like going to the super bowl or to the World cup or to the World Series on my first exhibit, it’s like not knowing who.

I don’t know who somebody really famous is in football or something. And. Yeah, yeah. So. So Aaron Rodgers. You don’t know who Aaron Rodgers is? And you’re. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So everybody was looking at me because these people were all seasoned. These people had been. They’d gone to school. I’ve never gone to. Gone to school for this. Like, I. I just. So they were all looking at me like, how’d you get here? Like, how’d you cut in the front of the line? And I was like, oh, my stuff. I went through a hurricane. It was, you know, on television and everything.

Well, what do you think? Well, this is interesting, but I had an artist tell me, and I want you to continue story. But they’re so elitist in the art world. They have to school and they have to learn certain trades and certain ways of doing stuff, and if they don’t do it with this, certain ways and this. And. And there’s art that’s for the p. You know, the. The. And the little people. And then there’s art that only us can appreciate, and we do these certain kind of methods, and you have to go to school to learn these methods, and regular people can’t even appreciate it.

That’s what I’ve been told. Yeah. And, you know, again, people don’t like to hear it’s like being funneled into getting rid of their creativity. It’s not that much. I mean, artists are being forced out, away from their creativity, too. When you start having those attitudes. Yeah, totally. And that’s what helped me, I think, in my career, is that I Didn’t take any formal classes. So there was never a teacher telling me, oh, you can’t do this, you have to do that. So I already started in my own way. So I, I didn’t say, okay, this is my influence or that’s my influence.

I just paint from what I feel. And like I said, sometimes I paint flowers and sometimes I paint weird stuff because they. Documenting what’s going on. But most people don’t have the skill that you have to see color and frequency. So you can at least throw that out there. And then people become enamored with this, that fact and give you more leeway. Someone who doesn’t have that might not get that kind of leeway. That, I mean, I’m just saying that’s a kind of a card that you stripe that you have that gives you bandwidth in the art world to be able to throw that at them.

But anyways, keep going. The, the problem with that, Sarah, is that talent really doesn’t mean much in the art world or in Hollywood or in the music industry because it’s money laundering, sex. It’s about selling your soul. And so I wouldn’t even be on this show with you. I’d be on like Jeffrey Epstein’s island years ago if I had decided, decided to sell my art in that manner because I was doing exhibits at very fancy places. But I was offered by the owners who. There’s a lot of homosexuals in the art world. There’s also a lot of pedophiles in the art world.

And so I was thinking they wanted to buy my art. And they were like, yeah, yeah, we’ll buy your art, but first we want to have sex with you. And I was like, well, I’m not gay. Thank you, I’m flattered. But. But here you could buy the art. They’re like, we’ll buy the art, but you have to sleep, you know, you have to sleep with us. And I’m like, I’m not going to do that. So basically you were a prostitute buying. They’re buying you, not the art. Kind of. Yeah. Well, how, how bad do you want it? How bad do you want it? That’s the same thing that happened.

That’s why Diddy is in so much trouble right now. Because Diddy realized that all these people like Meek Mills and Justin Bieber and all these people, a lot of the people that you see in the movies, a lot of people. And again, I’m not painting with the broad brush, but I’m telling you what the industry is like because I’VE I’m also a filmmaker. And yeah, there’s a casting couch. And it’s not just for women, it’s for men too. And there’s also, when you were talking about the people that go to those schools, it’s like, I’ll give you the example with Hunter Biden.

Hunter Biden’s making 500,000 for crap. He’s making millions of dollars for his art. Yeah, but that’s not influence. That’s to buy influence in the political. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. That’s called money laundering. That’s a money laundering sample. Yeah. Or it’s bribery. It’s. Yeah, I don’t know if it’s money laundering that way because they’re buying access to the political arena. So it’s. They’re buying access. Yeah, it’s got nothing to do with talent. And then the other thing is, you’ll notice that there’s a certain group of people that you’re not allowed to talk about, that they end up being the most well paid artists because they come from certain families.

And so they know that in order to launder the money, they have to put their kids into a profession where they can launder that money. So that’s how it works. And again, I used to be idealistic and when I first came in, I was like, wow, I’m, you know, this is going to be great. And then I started realizing, oh, okay, so I got to sell my soul. And I’m like, I don’t want to sell my soul. Really. I kind of want to hold on to that, you know? That’s right. So, so. And there’s. And we can, and we can be pretty successful.

Just maybe not. I won’t be top tier successful, but I can be pretty successful having a soul. And that’s good enough for me. Yeah, yeah. It’s called integrity. And you know what? I sleep well at night and I feel bad for people like Justin Bieber and others who, who unfortunately didn’t have parents that guided them in the right way and allowed them. And poor Justin. I mean, I know it sounds weird, poor Justin, but man, what good is all the money in the world if you can’t even sleep at night? You know what I’m saying? The money’s not worth it.

The fame is not worth it if you’re treated that way. Well, this is super interesting. I, you know, I was going to get into your whole China because you. And we’re gonna have to have you back to talk about your, your China experience, which is really interesting too. I mean, you, because you were on stage with all these famous artists doing, you know, interpreting their music as it was going, which you didn’t have to sell your soul to do that. So there are avenues of getting involved without selling your soul. So that’s very interesting. And so I want you to talk about that.

But then that led you into going to China and working for some of the top, top people in the ccp. And what you learned there, that’s absolutely fabulous or fantastic. Very interesting is what I have to say. And you ended up being the last one out after, before COVID and this, all this, you learned a lot about what China’s goals are against the United States because you were. You were like a fly on the wall. Yeah. But, you know, nothing is by chance. Sarah, I do believe that I was put here for a purpose. And I do believe that I’ve been tested along the way.

And I do believe that, like that fortune teller said my purpose was to document the incredible moment in history that we’re living through right now. We’re going through. Some people call it the apocalypse, which is nothing to be scared of. It’s the unveiling. The light is shining on the darkness, and the darkness cannot overcome it. And there’s so many people who are starting to learn who their true friends are, who their family is. And some people are afraid of that. But it’s better to know than not to know. And now that you know, people are starting to feel comfortable with that experience now.

Not everybody is able to handle it. And some people don’t even realize that it’s happening, happening. But that’s. This is like the most amazing time to be alive right now. And every single person that’s here on this earth right now chose to be here at this moment. So there’s no coincidence. And that’s why I live without fear. I put myself in positions that are not. Most people would. They think I’m crazy. They’re like, why? Why did you go to China? What are you doing living with these Russians? Aren’t you afraid? Like, you know what? You can’t live in fear.

You’re not living, so. That’s right. Yeah. And that’s the cool thing about being the artist. I’m going to tell you real quick how I started the modern art music movement, which is the fusion of art, music, film, fashion, literature, and education, fostering peace, love, and compassionate wealth worldwide. And the reason why I want people to focus on compassionate wealth is because there’s something that people aren’t talking about, and it’s Soul currency. Soul currency is the energy that we all have, the frequency that we vibrate. And right now, the world is in a very low vibration. People are scared.

People are nervous. They’re sensing that something bad is about to happen. But we can all elevate that, and we don’t have to allow this to happen. And the way that that happens is through compassionate wealth. We have to. Like, there’s people who have billions of dollars who are never going to live long enough to even spend that. I mean, think about it. Mathematically, if you’re a billionaire, you’d have to spend millions of dollars a day in order to spend it. So help those other people. There’s. There’s people who just. They’ve lacked compassion. We’ve. We’ve become so.

So greedy, so materialistic, and it’s a real shame. So, anyway, that’s what I. I hope. My legacy is to promote compassionate wealth, to keep the soul currency flowing, because that’s what’s helped me out. When I escaped China, I escaped with $230 in my pocket, because that’s all I could take out of the bank in China. And when I arrived in this country, I thought I was only going to be here for two weeks. But I’ve been surviving on the kindness of strangers who donate to my website. They go to the victorhugocollection.com and they click on the donate button.

Total strangers, $10, $5. And I have just enough to eat and to have shelter. And then I produce these shows, and I’ve had people like you on my show and others who have amazing stories, inspiring stories, sometimes sad stories. But they come on the show and they share it with other people, and that gives people hope. And I never thought I would be doing this. I didn’t plan on doing podcasts, just like I didn’t plan on being on stage with legends in the music industry like members of Bon Jovi, Cheap Trick, the Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan, the Goo Goo Dolls, members of the James Brown Band, Bob Marley and the whalers, Tito Puente Jr.

Just to name a few. And it all started with this guy from the band called the 2 Live Crew. His name is Fish and Grits. Realize these guys all have weird names in the rap industry, right? Like Peter. He’s not a normal name. So Fish and Grits contacts me. He goes, hey, listen, I saw your photo in the newspaper. I saw that you are being censored. Because I was trying to bring attention to the. The war in Iraq, that there were no weapons of mass destruction, that was just a scenario that was created to be able to create what we have right now, the Greater Israel plan, where they’re going into Syria, Lebanon, Jordan to expand it.

So I knew about that back then. A lot of people know about this stuff. But anyway, they. They. They censored my art. So Fish and Grits says, hey, listen, the 2Life crew is doing a anniversary tour because they were the band that was a Supreme Court case because they were arrested in Florida for indecency because of their lyrics and their albums. And so they said, we’d love you to come with us and tour, and we’d love for you to paint on stage while we’re performing. And I said, you know what, man? Thank you for the opportunity, but I’m not a monkey.

I don’t paint, you know, like, on stage. I just paint in my house by myself. And he goes, really? He goes, we’d really love to have you, man. He goes, why don’t you try it? Just give it a shot. And at that moment, my life changed because I thought about it and I said, you know what? This is probably like a once in a lifetime opportunity. And I said, okay, I’ll do it. And sometimes that’s all it takes is just to say, you know what? Throw caution to the wind. And then after that, I started doing shows and people started noticing, and then bigger bands started.

Like, I performed with John Waite, the guy who did the song Missing you, and Boston. And I grew up with Boston More Than a Feeling and all these songs. So next thing you know, I’m on stage with these legends that I grew up listening to and hanging out with them after the concerts and, you know, being on the tour bus. And so my life changed overnight. I went from being the landlord of Crackhead Jesus who uncovered a serial killer spinal surgeon that was roaming around and still is roaming around, by the way. One thing that he.

One thing that he told me, he says, victor, because I told him, I said, you realize I’m going to have to tell the FBI because, like, you’re telling me this and I have to tell somebody that you’re killing people. Why are you even telling me this? He goes, victor, he was telling you. He was telling you. Yeah, yeah, you miss him. So this serial killer told you he was killing people? Yeah, you missed that. We have to cover. How is he killing people? So I told him, I said, hey, listen, I got this tenant who thinks he’s Jesus, he’s a crackhead.

It’s costing me too much money in the courts. How can I Get rid of this guy. But did he offer to kill him? So he goes, oh, just do what I did. He goes, I own a bunch of properties in the Baltimore area, New Jersey area. You could look this guy up. Dr. Charles C. Edwards. He’s. He’s. You could find his stuff. He’s. He’s. He’s not a good guy. But of course, he says, victor, you can always get away with murder because you could always count on cops being overworked, underpaid and lazy and lawyers being greedy.

That’s right. So he goes, just do what I did. He goes, I finished performing surgery. I went in, I washed my hands, and then I put on surgical gloves. I got into my car, I drove to the tenement house where this crackhead that was living there that owed me rent lived. He goes, I walked up the seven flights of stairs, knocked on his door. He looked through the peephole. He saw me. As soon as he opened the door, I grabbed him by the throat and I walked him to the window and I pushed him out. He says, then I will walk downstairs.

Got in my car, went home and had dinner with my wife. And I looked at him and I was like, you’re kidding me, right? And he didn’t say yes or no. He just looked at me like, you asked me what to do. I told you. I said, are you serious? You expect me to kill this guy? And that’s what he told me. He goes, victor, you could get away with murder in the U.S. so how many people did. He can always count a cops. Well, from then, I started doing my research into this guy. And then it started making sense.

You could look this up, too. The New York Times wrote an article about Kiwi Airlines. It was the first airline, and only to my knowledge, that was shut down by the FAA because they got reports from the mechanics that they were being told to not work on the airplanes. And the FAA looked and they said, these planes are about to fall out of the sky. That’s how, like, bad they were. And so they shut it down. It turns out, again, these psychopaths, they’re the Albert Boulas. They’re the owners of Moderna. They’re the owners of these companies that are poisoning people.

They’re the owners of Boeing. Boeing knows that their own employees won’t fly on those Boeing planes because they’re so unsafe. But here’s the rubber. If you’re the CEO of an airline and the airplane crashes and you happen to be a serial killer, you’re sitting back watching the news, smoking your Cigar and having your brandy and going, oh, I just killed 258 people. So. Okay, so. But how. Yeah. Is going to pay for it and I’m not going to get arrested. But how did this guy kill people? Let me add. Add 258 people to the list. So it turns out there’s another way of killing people, I guess.

On how to be a serial killer 101, which is the. The story of. The story of Crackhead Jesus. The movie is how the serial killer taught me to be a serial killer. You buy companies or you buy properties. You buy dilapidated properties. Which is why, when I was the homeowners association president of the Grandview palace in North Bay Village, the elevators, sometimes I would go on there and they would drop. It’s the most terrifying thing. I don’t know if you’ve ever been in an elevator that’s dropped, like 20 floors. Oh, God. And so people. People were terrified of getting on those elevators.

And I was like, man, why don’t you fix these elevators? And before I became the homeowners association president, I started looking. There was an open case because sometimes the elevator doors would open and the elevator wasn’t there there. So people, I’m telling you, like, always look and make sure that the elevator is there before you take a step inside. Because there was a woman who was now, like, debilitated because the elevator doors opened. She walked in and she fell down. Like, yeah, she. She fell down. I think it was 10 or seven flights of stairs or something.

And there was a loss. And I remember I was like, hey, man, you know, like, you’ve got all these, like, lawsuits going on here, and. And it turns out that that’s another way. Way of killing people and getting away with it, you see, because these people. It’s about the numbers. So he would buy these dilapidated buildings, and you could see the articles in New Jersey in these different parts. And the people would complain because he wouldn’t fix things. But the reason he didn’t fix things, that’s why he walked up the stairs. That’s why it made sense to me.

I was like, why didn’t he just take the elevator? Because the elevators didn’t work. He knew that the elevators were deadly. So he would walk up the stairs. So, yeah, you could kill people by either buying an airline, buying a. A Pfizer Moderna, or becoming a congressman or senator and approving war, you know, or being the head of, like, a. Listen, there’s so many ways that you get away with. I suppose that’s what they talk about with abortion. It’s part of that whole process. People get off on that. That’s why they do those, that they do those, what do you call it? Rituals for abortion, too.

Geez. Okay, well, Victor, we’re going to have to have you back. Where can people find you? Where could they donate to you to help you? Just five or ten bucks really helps you because the cost of living there is really low. But where can they find you? Can they still buy your artwork and give a little spiel on that? Yeah, you can find my work@victorhugo collection.com and if you scroll to the bottom of the page, you’ll find my channels on Rumble and Bitchute. I’m also on Brideon and Odyssey. And yeah, I’m trying to sell my art.

It’s really weird because I had to leave my art behind in China because I, I had to, I left cultural artifacts that were signed by legends in the music industry there. But my life, my life, my life was in danger. So I, I, I had to leave within 48 hours, so I had to leave that behind. I hope someday that we, as people of the United States, use me as a cultural ambassador to get that artwork back to the United States, because that really does belong to the people of the U.S. it’s signed by members of Boston Sheep Trick, the Doobie Brothers, Bon Jovi and stuff.

We, we need to get that stuff back. I’d like us to be able to get along with people of other countries, too. Yeah. And I was doing a great job with everybody. And how do we, how do we figure out how not to, how do we protect ourselves, not be sitting ducks for somebody to take us over and be friends with other countries. I’m trying to get in contact with Donald Trump so that he can have me as a cultural ambassador with China, because I made very good connections with high level people in China and they are our friends.

Just the same thing with the Russians. I could also be a cultural ambassador for the people here in Russia because they don’t want to fight us. They’re not our enemies. I can assure you of that. I wouldn’t be talking to you, average person. The average person certainly is not. And with the artwork that I have there, the artwork that I could create with Putin, we can make peace. So I am volunteering as a cultural ambassador. If anybody’s listening, please put me in contact with Dr. Donald Trump. I know people say, oh, that’s ridiculous. But you know what? My life has been so extraordinary that I don’t believe that anything’s impossible.

I’m one degree of separation from Donald Trump through a guy named P.J. schrantz, but that’s another story. He doesn’t want to put me in contact with him because he’s also connected to General Michael Flynn. And I have been doing investigations into allegations of General Michael Flynn being involved in human trafficking and money laundering. So he’s like, he’s like, victor, if you don’t stop reporting on this stuff, I’m not going to sell your art and I’m not going to help you get in contact with Trump. So I’m like, wow, this is kind of weird because again, we’re trying to help kids and I don’t even have children myself.

I don’t have skin in the game. I really shouldn’t be just like, oh, give me the money, give me the money, you know? But again, we have to as a culture, it’s a society, if we’re going to survive, we have to care about the kids. That’s right. So it’s, it’s really, it’s really sad. Okay, well, anyway, everybody should be, if there’s evidence, anybody should be investigated. I don’t like to hear that, but I suppose everybody’s fair game to be investigated if there’s truly is evidence. But anyways, that’s another time. Thank you so much for joining the program.

I really appreciate it. Thank you, Sarah. Happy New Year. And to your audience, live love flow sa.
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