Summary
âž¡ The discussion revolves around the challenges of rebuilding in California, particularly along the coast, due to strict permit regulations. The speakers believe that the Trump administration could bring change by encouraging private sector involvement and reducing red tape, drawing on a past example of rapid bridge reconstruction. They criticize politicians for focusing on maintaining the status quo rather than what’s best for the people, and express hope that Trump’s business-minded approach could disrupt this. However, they acknowledge that the president’s power is limited and that the legislative branch has ceded significant power to the executive branch.
âž¡ Executive orders, originally called presidential proclamations, have two main functions: to make proclamations, which hold no legal force, and to instruct the executive branch on how to execute laws. However, they have evolved into a powerful tool that presidents often use to create laws through regulatory agencies. This has led to a misconception that executive orders have the power of law, which is not true. The misuse of executive orders and the misunderstanding of their purpose have contributed to an imbalance of power in the government.
âž¡ The discussion revolves around various political topics, including the executive branch, the constitution, martial law, and the electoral college. The speaker emphasizes that martial law cannot be declared by the president alone, but must be put in place by Congress. They also discuss the electoral college, stating that the current system of having Democratic and Republican electors is unconstitutional. The conversation also touches on the topic of the Confederate Constitution and the misconceptions surrounding it.
âž¡ This text discusses the history of slavery in the United States, highlighting that both the North and South profited from it. It also talks about the division between black and white people, suggesting that both groups are “debt slaves” to the system. The text then transitions to discussing the role of the President, emphasizing the importance of loyalty to America for this position. Lastly, it mentions the American Revolution, where a third of the population supported Britain, drawing parallels to a hypothetical invasion scenario.
âž¡ The text discusses the concept of ‘natural born citizenship’ as understood by the Founding Fathers of the United States. They believed that to protect the country from foreign influence, the President should be a ‘natural born citizen’, meaning a child of citizen parents. This concept, which has roots in ancient Greece and Britain, was seen as a safeguard against those with foreign political ideas infiltrating the executive branch. However, the text also highlights that being a ‘natural born citizen’ and a ‘citizen’ are two different things, and being born on American soil does not automatically make one a ‘natural born citizen’.
âž¡ The discussion revolves around the eligibility of certain individuals for the vice presidency, based on the 12th Amendment’s requirement for natural-born citizenship. It also touches on behind-the-scenes political deals, suggesting that Trump’s discussions about merging countries with the U.S. economically might be revealing pre-existing agreements. The conversation ends with a claim that Trump is the first U.S. president without any ancestors who owned slaves, and a discussion about potential shifts in political leanings at CNN and MSNBC.
âž¡ The speaker expresses their joy in being present and acknowledges Virginia, who enjoys the show. They hint at a future discussion about the Confederate Constitution and bid everyone a good night, promising to see them next time.
Transcript
Gibbs. So if I seem off center and little discombobulated, please forgive, forgive the technical difficulties, but I promise when this brain technical difficulties, when it’s all done, I’m going to be very pleased and the product is going to be much greater. So that’s that and that’s, that’s the objective. So anyhow, how are you, Mr. Gibbs? I am doing well and all kinds of fun stuff going on up here. We’ve had sun for a week and we’re going to have another worth of weeks worth of sun for. So it’s raining again. It doesn’t always rain in Oregon.
I heard, I heard it only rains twice a year up there from like, like September to December and January to maybe. Yeah, no, they’re, yeah. It’s funny because everybody says doesn’t rain up there all the time. No, I mean we’ve had. Yeah. What we say almost a week now and it’s not supposed to start raining until like Monday or Tuesday next week. No, no, I mean if. The following. Yeah, yeah. After next weekend. So. And then sometimes. But I tell you what, when it rains, it does rain. I mean we, we get, we get over the weekend sometimes overnight.
We what? California. Southern California gets all year long. So. Yeah, I, I, that’s what I heard. My, my mom said she spent a, I think she spent a year up there and when she was younger and it was just, it was just crazy. Ah, Warhamster is in the chat. So check your email. Warhammer. I did send you an invitation, so should you want to pop in. So. Well, it’s green and beautiful up here for a reason. I’m okay with the rain, but if you live on a dirt road like I do. Two keywords or actually three keywords.
Four by four. I don’t think that’s the keywords. I think that’s just two numbers and a letter. Yeah, well, for me it’s three keywords, but anyway. Or, or, or an acronym. So in, in any Event. I completely understand. By the way, did you get ever, did you ever get your truck or whatever that was that you were. My pickup is still in Southern California with its engine in one place and its body in another place. So no, I haven’t gotten that yet. I’ve. And I have a RAV4 up here that we’ve discovered when it rains, it leaks inside the car.
We never knew before because it never rained down there. Now that. And when it did, it wasn’t a lot. Now that thing was out for a week. We get inside and it’s like, what the hell’s going on here? And so never knew. Yeah, so our RAV4 that we used to have down there, two wheel drive but you know, can’t drive it during the winter anyway. But because of the rain. But right now we can because it’s dry enough. But yeah. Well, 4x4s. Now that we’re up here though, let me, and let me just say for everybody who is curious, I, yes, I am in Southern California, but I’m about a hundred miles due east of Los Angeles, so I am not impacted in any way about the fires.
So. Well, a friend of mine, a friend of mine who works on my website, my friend Josh, and definitely keep. I said this on Sunday night and we’ll say it again, put our friend Josh in your prayers. And he lives right off of the 101 in the Calabasas area. And so he was a part of the mandatory evacuation, but his house is not technically in the fire. It’s right on the edge. It’s spread in that direction though. Yeah, yeah. So I, I texted him earlier today, you know, just checking to see how he’s doing. And so he evacuated.
He’s out of Uncle’s, but yeah, that’s frightening. And so as we’re watching all of that on tv, my wife turns to me and says, man, I’m glad we moved to the Oregon coast. But not, not to make any light of what’s going on down there. But I tell you, the joke has always been that, you know, California does have four seasons. You know, fire season. Yeah. Construction season, fire season, mudslide season. But anyway, the surfing season, it’s, you know, it, it is really bad down there. But you know, if I may, I actually think that this is going to be that, you know, not, not trying to exploit the situation.
But I do feel as though we’re going. This, this, this could be the catalyst for some significant positive change within the state. There are, you know, there, there’s a, there’s an enormous amount of people who are going to witness the, you know, the, the super majority of the Democrats who have basically been asleep at the wheel and engaged in, you know, nothing but corruption and, you know, you know. Yeah, well, the political leadership is definitely going to be under greater scrutiny by the citizens for sure. Absolutely. And, and I, I saw that the, somebody. Somebody sent me a message saying that the.
At Facebook fired all of their. Or not Facebook, but meta fired their entire DEI department. Yep, their entire DEI department and their entire fact checking department. So maybe it’s time for me to get back onto Facebook. Well, you know, and it’s like I was, I wrote an article not too long ago about Big tech and Trump and I want people to understand it’s not that Big tech is suddenly getting it and heading conservative. It’s not good for business right now to be lefty and to disagree with Trump. And I don’t know if it’s a kiss the ring or, or.
I think a part of it is the fact that they also realized that left wing policies were not good for them, especially when it came to AI. When it came to AI Biden, basically, his administration basically said there’s not going to be any new startups when it comes to AI. There’s not going to be any funding for AI. We’re going to consider it science and not. No advancements can be done in AI unless it’s through the federal government. That was basically what they said to these guys. And meanwhile Trump is like, no, I want it to freely develop.
Well, when that’s the next big boom, who you gonna go with? Right, well, so, so, you know, hey, deep down, deep down, all these big tech lefties are capitalists. Well, yeah, they have to be. I mean, I mean, well, okay, they’re capitalists from the standpoint that they want the money, but they’re Marxists or actually, I hate, you know, I really hate using this term. I use the term, I use the term mercantilist. Well, I, I like to use the term totalitarian. Mercantilist is someone who operates where government and, and the, and the business sector are colluding together.
And when you’re, and when you’re the person that’s colluding with government and you’re getting the good side of it, being a mercantilist is wonderful, but when you’re the company that’s being targeted against, suddenly you don’t like mercantilism anymore. Right? That’s true. And that’s basically what we’re looking at. Yeah. It’s, but you know, the pendulum swings all the time. And the pendulum is, in my opinion, the pendulum is either at approaching or past the apex of stupidity in this state. And we are, we are going to begin to see, you know, a migration away from all this, you know, this, this totalitarian crap.
Well, and the difference between that pendulum swing this time compared to in the past, because in the past the pendulum swings constantly, but this time the pendulum is swinging with some blades attached and everybody, everybody’s jumping out of the way. Well, so I saw, you know, I saw, I saw a, a video with, it’s a video segment that Adam Corolla did and he was talking about when, I think it was after the 95 earthquake in Northridge when there was a bunch of people who wanted to rebuild or they wanted to build a pool or whatever and they had to do like the, the, this, they wouldn’t grant a permit for them to build a pool unless the pool was double hold.
And that literally like added another $150,000 on the, onto the construction job. And they’re like, well, why? And they’re like, because if it leaks, they’re like, it’s water. So. Yeah, well, and, and there’s, you know, in California, if you construct a new pool now, you’re no longer allowed to have a diving board. Now if you rebuild your home, you’re not allowed to have a fireplace and now you’re going to be required to have solar whether you want it or not. And there’s all kinds of. And those are the simple stuff. And yeah, you’re exactly right. Well, by, I was talking about this on Sunday night with Alan with For the Republic.
And that’s the, and that’s going to be the biggest pendulum swing is when these people who love democratic politics and policies start trying to get their permits. Yeah. And, and Corolla actually said something that was very astute. He said, look, the, the, the Coastal Commission is not there to protect the coast. The Coastal Commission is there to make you leave. Yeah. And he’s like, when all these people are going to want to rebuild along the coast, they’re not going to be able to because the permit, the, the permits are going to be so obscene. They’re not, they’re not.
They’re not. And they’re not. Wait till you, wait till you get to. And you know, to, to the, the 20, 26 year old or 28 year old who is, you know, lefty, hardcore woke and is an environmentalist and she’s the one who has to approve Your, your permit, good luck. Ain’t gonna happen. So, I mean, they’re, they’re, they’re going to. Well, we’ll see. My, I know what he’s saying would be true if the circumstances were, under normal circumstances in California, but under a Trump administration and the mindset of the people that have voted for him. I have a, I have a really, I, I’m of the opinion that we’re going to see if things are going to change out here.
And, you know, I mean, California is, Trump knows, used to be Reagan country. Oh, look, you, you cannot make America great again without California. It’s just not possible. California is, California isn’t, is an essential. It’s, it’s essential land for making this country great again. So. Well, and, and here’s something that’s interesting, and this was mentioned in the chat room a moment ago. The Biden administration, though, is so quick to, oh, my gosh, you know, California and 100. We’re going to be there for you. North Carolina, still struggling. What about North Carolina? What about parts of Florida? Why is California so important to you, Mr.
Biden? Oh, because that’s where all your, you know, money is coming from. You know, and, but, and I think people are paying attention, but here’s what I think is really going to be interesting and, and we’ll watch this and see how it plays out. I believe once Trump steps into the presidency, the federal assistance, and not federal assistance in the sense of giving money, but in the sense of encouraging and, and getting the private sector involved with, with getting things fixed in California, North Carolina and other places like that. It’s gonna be so rapid and sudden.
Everybody’s gonna go, whoa, there’s, there’s an ex. There’s actually a real life example of that. Do you remember during the Northridge quake, when the, when the bridge over. I don’t remember. It was a Santa Monica freeway, and I don’t remember what, what, what road. If it was like Wilshire or whatever. But the, but the, the overpass on I10, which was like, it’s like seven lanes across each way. So I mean, it was a, it was a very wide stretch of road there and it collapsed. And, you know, you cut that off between West Hollywood and downtown la.
I mean, it was an absolute disaster. And, and for those of you who aren’t from there, when you’re on the 10 and you’re in that many lanes, I mean, you’re looking right at the city. I mean, it’s right up against. It’s right there, 100%. And what they did was they said, okay, no red tape. We’re gonna, we need this built now. And, you know, to hell with all the, all the. And at that time, Reardon was the. I think Reardon was the, the mayor and he was Republican, and I think it was Duke Ma, was. It was either Duke Ma or Wilson, who was the governor of California.
Sure, yeah, yeah. But anyway, they, they came in and they said, no, yeah, yeah, whatever. We’re going to give you 100 days to get this job done, and every day that you do it and come in under that hundred days, we’ll give you a bonus. And they worked around the clock, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and they had that bridge, they took all of the debris, cleared it out and rebuilt that bridge in 30 days. 30 days. So, I mean, that just goes to show you what can happen when you incentivize people to do something and remove the red tape.
Well, and unleash the free market. And that’s part of what is wonderful about Trump is that’s what he wants to do across the board, not just for this stuff, is unleash the free market. The answer to unleashing the free market in history is always prosperity every time. Yeah. And getting things done. And you know, Trump, and I know there’s a lot of people who can’t stand Trump because he was A, this or B, that when he was a businessman. And number one, 90 of that is false, because, remember, they lie, but that’s beside the point. But one thing, I was in construction for 20 years, and one thing about construction is when it, you know, you have deadlines, you don’t mess around, you have to meet them.
You, you need to meet the deadline and you need to come in under cost. And that’s what he did. And, and that’s what he was used to, because he was in construction. And so he’s taking that same mentality into the presidency just like he did last time. And that’s a good mentality to take. That’s what I want. That’s the reason I’ve always wanted a businessman of his, of his caliber as president. Long before I realized Trump would even be president, I’ve always been kind of wanting something like that, you want that kind of mentality. The problem is, is most your politicians, and my wife and I were talking about this the other night.
Most your politicians don’t care what’s best. It’s all about feeding the machine. It’s about. All about just keeping the Leviathan healthy. They don’t care about everything on the external. They don’t care if they get this done today, tomorrow, or next week, as long as the Leviathan is happy. The machine. And that’s where you get the unit party, where you get both sides feeding the machine. And they don’t care about anything outside the machine. The machine exists for the sake of its existence, and that’s what government has become. It’s not doing its duties or following its authorities because it’s all about the machine and feeding the machine and for the, and keeping it going for the sake of the machine and not the American people, not the states, not, you know, and, you know, the list goes on and on and on.
And, and that’s why they hate Trump, as Trump is like, screw the machine, dismantle the machine. Let’s get back to the way it’s supposed to be. Right? And I agree with that, and I think that that’s exactly where, where we’re going. But the only thing that I would caution people on is, is that, look, Trump is one man. We, we do not live in a dictatorship. Trump is the president, but, and he is the leader, but he cannot, you know, he can’t govern by executive fiat. That, that’s just not the way, that’s not the way that our government works.
However, however. And, and you know what? This might be a good thing to do next week if we’re, if, you know, because obviously we’re, you know, we’re about 20 minutes in, and I don’t know if we’re gonna, you know, how well we’re gonna get, how far we’re gonna get. But what I think we should do is talk about how much the, how much the legislative branch has ceded power and what powers they have ceded to the executive branch. Because Trump want, Trump said, you have no idea how powerful the president, how the position of the president is right now.
Right. It has, it has more power now than it ever has in its history. And that’s because Congress has ceded a significant amount of that power to the executive branch. And obviously that was, in my opinion, that was done on purpose with the idea that we were going to have, you know, you know, a Hillary dictatorship type thing where it was going to be the end of the United States. Well, and it, and a part of it. I mean, there’s many factors that have contributed. The Lincolnian Republicans, Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt. But one of the contributing factors is the executive order.
The executive order. And, and this is a good lesson right now to, to start this, since we’re in the executive Branch. And an executive order is supposed to be from the originalist point of view and the way Washington used it and so on and so forth. When I say Washington, I mean George Washington, not Washington D.C. i knew. I knew what you meant. Yeah, but there may be some in the audience, you know that. I mean, you just never know. I have to make sure I’m clear as a bell here that the. They were originally called presidential proclamations, and that’s what they were.
They. The executive orders, basically, from a constitutional standpoint, have two functions. One is to be a proclamation. A proclamation holds no legal force. For example, Ronald Reagan, one of his proclamations, one of his executive orders was to establish a national day of prayer. One, the national day of prayer. The rule isn’t you pray or you get a. Or you’re federally arrested. It has. It doesn’t hold power. It is a suggestion. It’s a proclamation. And the other thing that the executive order is supposed to be is instructions to the executive branch how to execute the laws that the executive branch is supposed to execute.
That’s all they are. So. And I had this conversation with a chat room on Sunday night where they’re like, well, when does a, you know, how quickly can an executive order go into force? Can it go into force on national. It doesn’t go into force. It has no force of law. It is an executive order. So executive orders are supposed to be, all right, this is the law. This is how it’s going to be executed here. Executive branch executed or proclamation. But then it changed its name from a presidential Proclamation to Executive Order. The word order change carries a certain, I don’t know, mandate feeling to it.
And so they became this powerful tool that now the presidents have often used in the place of law to even create law through their, through their regulatory agencies and things like that. And we have to. And, and this is. So when we talk about, well, he’s got 100 executive orders ready to roll. And I’m not complaining because I’d say most of them are to repeal executive orders by the idiot who repealed his in the first place. But these are not the president from a constitutional standpoint, can’t be like, make it so. Like, you know, Jean Luc Picard, I mean, there’s.
If it’s not law, there is no executive order. Right. It has to have something to do with a law that exists or it’s just a proclamation. I mean, George Washington, George Washington, John Adams, Jefferson and Madison combined, I think had like eight or ten of these total. Between the four or five of Them less than a dozen, the first four or five presidents. I mean, and, and you know, now we’ve had a few presidents, both of them by the last name of Roosevelt, who’s gone into thousands, over 3,000 if I remember properly with FDR. I mean, so part of our problem is we’ve given so much power to the president and we believe it to be true because it’s called an executive order.
You tell the Americans a lie often enough, they believe it to be true. So, so Americans are convinced that we are a nation, we are democracy, and executive orders have power. We’ve been fed these lies over and over and over and that we believe it. Right. And so one of that, so one of the reasons why I teach this is I want us to stop believing that and get our, and get our government back into the corner, back into the ring, within the ropes that it’s supposed to be in. Well, that’s the point is, you know, is, is if you continuously and repetitively say, say the same thing over and over and coming from multiple sources, whether it be the media or academia, government sources, whatever, if they’re all echoing the same thing and they say it over and over and over, you know, then what happens is, is that that starts to seep into the mind and it, it, it believes what it’s hearing and you know, and if everybody’s saying it, then it must be true.
So, and you know, little does everybody know that they’re all working in conjunction with each other and, and executive orders, we’ve got this idea that they are an animal and that’s the reason why they coveted works so well for these people. We’ve been convinced. Well yeah, but emergency powers, executive orders, mandates, you know, and we’ve been convinced of all this stuff and like good little lemmings, we follow it. And let’s see here. Yarn Addict said here I’m sure put this on the state on the, on the thing says G.W. bush made an order that gave agencies authority to change regulations without congressional input.
I don’t trunk overturned that. No, I think the courts did. And that was, that was the Chevron deference case. Yep, that’s what that was. And, and it, it that that not only that, and it wasn’t just Bush’s order, it was also a case that when, when Bush was Bush’s regulatory agencies were challenged. It was a court case which basically said, hey, you know, if an agency needs to make adjustments based on changes and it doesn’t have to wait for new law. Yeah. And, or it’s based on their interpretation of the law. And then, of course, once you say based on their interpretation, interpretation can mean anything you want in the long run.
And that’s. And that’s what that Chevron deference was all about. And so the case that, the, the case we’re talking about recently, I can’t remember the name of the case, but it basically reversed the Chevron deference, which. But look at the damage they did and still do because of that. Well, well, yeah, of course they’re still doing it. The VA basically said, we don’t care. Yeah, we’re going to interpret it the way we want, still. And the same thing with the atf. The ATF said. Because they, you know, I. I don’t. I don’t know how much, you know about SBRs with the pistol braces and all that other stuff, but the.
The ATF just. They did. They just said, hell with it. You know, we’re gonna. We’re gonna enforce what we believe to be correct, regardless of what the Supreme Court said. So, I mean, it’s just. It’s. It’s all just absolute nuts. Well, now you’ve got Congress saying, okay, so let’s get rid of the atf. Amen. Amen. Exactly. Yeah, Amen. And get rid of every federal gun law that’s on the books. Does. Every single gun law that’s on the books at the federal level is unconstitutional. Period. Full stop. So I walked into a small diner today for lunch.
I was up in Gold beach, and my. I don’t know if my wife saw. Did you see that gun plaque when we first walked in? And it basically says, guns are welcome in our store or on a restaurant. Keep them holstered unless we’re being robbed. I’m like, I love this place, man. You know, it’s. It’s interesting that you say that. When I. When I was up in. In. In Prescott, I was living up in Prescott, and I was actually the. The sales manager at the Staples up there. This. I don’t know, it was like 15 years ago.
And when you would walk into stores, there were some stores that had no firearms in the store allowed. And the city actually went to the businesses that had those signs and said, you have to take them down, because you can’t. You can’t prohibit a person’s constitutional right from. A business. Can, but they ought not to. You have a right to keep and bear arms. If a business has certain rules. No shoes, no shirt, no service, no guns. Don’t you know. You know, if you have a gun, no service Whatever that’s their business as a business. But be aware for those of you who have businesses that do those types of things, the criminal elements paying attention, they know which ones are gun free zones.
Yeah, you’re right to keep a bare arms. There’s a. Or your all your rights. It’s about government. Government has no right to interfere with your rights. If a private entity wants to say hey we then don’t do business with them because they can in their business atmosphere within they can. This is. I don’t get these very often so I want to highlight it. It’s a Twitter. Somebody watching on Twitter and said hey Ron, what’s up in South Korea? Seeing that the leadership has been arrested. Had you heard that? Yeah, matter of fact I haven’t heard that the arrest part, but I heard that they were considering arrests.
So if there’s an arrest. I haven’t heard that that’s happened yet. But they tried to impeach him first and then the impeachment didn’t go through. The leader is of South Korea. The prime minister was kind of, kind of the lefty and actually at one point imposed martial law without congressional approval at one point. And so they tried to impeach him but the impeachment did not carry enough votes and to remove them from office. And, and so there’s been, then there’s been protests and calls for. There is. Isn’t, isn’t. Isn’t the South Korean form of government very similar to ours? Yeah, they, they’ve based theirs on, on ours quite a bit and their free market is very free as, as was and should be still Japan’s.
And that’s the reason why at night when you do a satellite photo, South Korea’s lights are on, North Korea’s aren’t. But, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t have also their lefties and, and, and, and you know, conservatives, things like that. You know you’re gonna have your, your progressives or whatever you want to call them. Yeah. Well, what do you say we talk about the, the executive branch a little bit? I know we’ve, we’ve kind of danced around it a little bit, but let’s. Halfway into the program we haven’t really gotten to the lesson yet, but this was a good conversation and I, and I believe that, that our audience appreciates these types of, you know, sidetracks and rabbit track trails every once in a while now they don’t want it all the time obviously.
And there’s some people go no, get to the lesson. But for the most part. These are important conversations and I actually, I actually think that it’s good to have to split up, you know, have a little bit of constitution and a little bit of how the constitution is being applied in incorrectly in modern day. I think those are, I think that’s very relevant. And even though we, that that South Korean question was there, so somebody just said here, pretty sure that martial law was to intervene in some machine to manipulate similar to 71 other countries. I’m not really sure what she means.
I don’t know the exact reason. But I will say this about the United States when it comes to martial law because we don’t have a national government with a leader that has all unilateral control like you would see in other countries. Martial law is, is not something the president can just call. People think that, that, that he can. President can’t just call martial law because martial law has to be carried out. In order to carry out martial law, it has to be called, it has to be put in place first by Congress, both houses, then personnel, then deployed by the election.
And that would be the election militia and national guard and all that. So she said it was election fraud. Yeah, I, I, I’ve heard that. That was a part of it. Yeah. Of what’s going on in South Korea. That was a part of it. There’s more to it than that. But that was a part of it. Gotcha. Okay. Well that’s encouraging. You know. Well, Tackleberry says in Texas it’s a felon to carry a gun into a bar or other place that profits 51 of alcohol sales. And in California it’s, it’s a crime to, to drink alcohol while carrying.
If you’re going to drink alcohol, then you can’t carry. In California it’s a crime to breathe. Well and it’s actually impossible to breathe in some parts of the state right now, so. Right. So. All righty. But thank you and more. Hampster put a link in the chat room for those who didn’t see it regarding the Korean story. So thank you, Warhamster. And see Warhammester whether he’s calls in or whether he participates. Yeah. You know, now I’ve said Warhamster twice. I have to be careful because isn’t it if you say it three times, he appears so. Well, I don’t know.
You’re, you’re, I think you’re trying to bait him into coming and, and I wouldn’t do such thing. I would never do something he’s, he’s way stubborn to to do that. So no, I’ve done that on my radio show on Saturdays one time, I’ll say three times and suddenly the phone’s ringing. It’s hilarious. But anyway, yeah, he’ll. He’ll dig his feet in and say, nope. So, alrighty. So where we left off was an Article 2, Section 1. And we had just finished getting going over the electoral college. And so this next part I’m going to read is regarding the electoral call.
Excuse me, rectorial College. But then we’re going to get into a topic I know and love quite well, Natural Born Citizen. It’s a good discussion. It’s an important discussion because it’s more than just Natural Born Citizen. It really encompasses a lot. So the part we didn’t read regarding the Electoral College last. Last week was the paragraph that says the Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors and the day on which they shall give their votes. Which day shall be the same throughout the United States. They give their votes in December. Those votes are counted on January 6th.
But that’s the only control Congress has over the electors. That’s it. We have Congress now trying to control, you know, how the electors are chosen and solves her stuff. And actually the electors are chosen prop. Improperly Right now anyway. Right now in this country, when we have our electors for the electoral college for presidential elections, we have two slates of electors, Democrats and Republicans, and that’s unconstitutional. If you go back to what we’re reading last week, it is up to each state legislature to determine how the electors can be chosen. And it’s going to be one slate.
And each elector is supposed to vote for president. And how they’re chosen could be completely by the state legislature, completely by vote from the people. Could be a mixture of both, which it usually was, and, and then the electors vote for President and there was no winner take all either, which we talked a little bit about last week. How damaging that has become. The only control Congress has regarding electors is determining the time in which they shall be chosen, voted for or whatever by the state, the day in which they shall give their votes, and, and the day.
And then, and then the date in which the. Those votes are counted, which was January 6, before our joint session of Congress. That’s it. That’s the only control the federal government is supposed to have over the electors, period is, Is when and where. But the actual, the actual, the actual. What’s the right word? Process processes, that’s up to the state legislatures. All right, now, now that we’ve wrapped all that up and. And once again, if I didn’t get a chance to tell you all, thank you for being here. It’s good to see you. And I kind of like the fact that sometimes we get to talk about something else a little bit in the beginning because.
And not that. Not that I want to reward tardiness. I get it, man. You know, sometimes, you know, there’s a few minutes in the way. I get it. It happens to me all the time. That’s the reason why I always try to run early because I know I’m gonna run late. But I, I kind of like the fact that we spend some time on other topics so that everybody’s here when we really get into the nitty gritty. But once again, I appreciate you guys being here. And if you want to show your appreciation, bet right back.
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You want to show your appreciation, pay me a visit. And if you want to show me more appreciation, help fund what I do, you can figure it out, I’m sure, at the site. I’ll tell you again later. Now. Well, now for the fun. And, and while you’re on that subject, my understanding is that I’m going to be included on this and we’re going to go through the Confederate Constitution. And when we think about it, we’re talking, you know, the bad boys of the south, all those racist bastards. Okay, hold on. Maybe that’s not. That’s what they say.
You know, we’ll get into it. We’ll explain. Yeah, the. The. And the. The con. The Constitution of the Confederate States of America is a very fun. I’ve got that book. That’s a fantasy. Matter of fact, a friend of mine named Todd told me about that book. Todd is a historian, like I am. Used to come to one of my classes in San Diego county, but he lives in the Temecula area. And he’s the one turned me on to that book, as a matter of fact. And then it was funny because after he told me about it, I think you told me about it, like, shortly after, I was like, all right, I’ve been told twice.
I gotta get it. Yeah, it’s. It’s a very interesting read. And Dixie. They all live in the north now, all the racists. Well, they always, they were already there. Yeah, they always did. That’s the point. The north didn’t want to abolish slavery. No. If you read about. They were afraid that once the slaves are abolished, they go north. They. Yeah, well, so the code is. The code is for. When they say that there were no slaves in the north, that was code for we don’t want black people here. Yeah, it really was. In many ways, that’s exactly what it was.
I mean, in Link in. In the land of Lincoln, the one who freed the slaves, it was illegal for a black person to stay in the state longer than two weeks if he was there long. If a black person was in Illinois longer than two weeks in the 1850s, right up until the Civil War, they, they could be arrested and put and sold back into slavery. And in the south, meanwhile, this racist slave trade. Well, there were free black slave owners in the South. Well, you know, you, you know who. And a greater percentage of them owned slaves than the white.
Free white people. That’s right. The. And which. And it’s very interesting about the. A lot of the, you know, because the slave. The importation of slaves was outlawed by the Constitution in 1809. And they, but. But they were smuggling them in. And guess where they were smuggling them in? Through or up through Connecticut. And they were. And, and they, they were literally. They were still selling slaves down into the south, but they were doing it through the North. The north prolonged and. And and encouraged and profited from slavery almost more than the south did. Well, and prior to the.
The War between the States, the primary hub of the Atlantic slave trade where slaves came into the country was through Rhode Island. Yeah, I, maybe I, I could be wrong in saying Connecticut and it was actually Rhode island, but. Yeah. Yeah, Rhode island was the primary. Well, and pro Rhode island was even called Rhode island back then. Anyway, it was Rhode island and the Providence Plantations. Anyway. But I mean. Anyway, continue. Yes, because let’s go from rabbits. Kill the slavery. Kill the rabbits. Kill the rabbits. Kill the rabbits. Let’s go from slavery of, of the. The mostly black population before the 1860s.
And let’s change it to the slavery of all of us. You know what? Okay, you just said something and I don’t, I don’t want to, I don’t want to go down a rabbit hole. I don’t want to go, I don’t want to, to blow this up. But what you just said is exactly correct. Yeah. And that, and, and we’re all slaves. We’re debt slaves to these, to the system and the, and, and what they’ve done, what, what the powers that be have done, have successfully divided the black and the white people are, you know, and making us at each other’s throats thinking that each one is the problem when we’re not the problem.
We are both in the same boat. And essentially what it is is that we. You’ve got black and white people fighting for control of a sinking ship. Yes. The, the, the plantations have been moved from ownership of the slave owners to ownership by the government holding down. Dixie says yes, thank you fdr. I would, I would stipulate that FDR had a significant role in that, but he would not have. But like what, like what Obama did with the foundation that Bush gave him with the Patriot Act. Everything that FDR was able to do was as a result of the Progressive Era.
And they, and, and all the, all the stuff that had been put through with the Federal Reserve, the manipulation of the currency, the creation and formation of the, and the prolonging of the Great Depression which ultimately led to all these government programs that we still have today and have only, and have only mushroomed. So let’s do it this way. So FDR was able to do what he did because of the groundwork laid by the Progressive Era. Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt were able to do what they did based on the groundwork laid by the Lincolnian Republicans and Lincoln.
And they were able to lay the groundwork they laid down because of Alexander Hamilton of the Founding era. And it’s that creeping incrementalism that just gets greater with each push. And I would argue, and I would argue that the main, the main element that they used was not these, the so called 1871 Corporation. It was the 14th Amendment or the, or the interpretation, interpretation of the 14th Amendment. I think that is, that has a much more significant role in how the government is operates than the, the, the bogus 1871 corporation which was nullified three years after the fact.
All right, but anyway, no more kill that rabbit. Sorry, you just said something and it just struck and the Rabbits have teeth today. Yes, they do. See, on this show, the rabbit done died. Means something totally different than what you’ve always believed. Exactly. We’re gonna kill the rabbit, get back on the main trail. No more rabbit trails. All right. And this will carry to the next show. I tell you that right now. So we’ll lay the groundwork just like, just like Hamilton did for everybody. The groundwork here. Wow. I’m gonna be, I, I tell you what, I’m gonna be excited when my studio’s done because all the books that are on the green screen here, I’m gonna have at my disposal.
Like I could reach over and grab anything that I want. I, I’ve got the same plan. So excited for that. I’m a little bit further down the road with, yeah, I’m excited. I gotta do other things before I get there. Like, like put the walls up around my office and stuff. And you know, and I’m so. I was telling him how I’m buying equipment and stuff right now to prepare for all that stuff. But anyway, no person except a natural born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President.
Eligibility for President was a big deal. The founding fathers did not want the President to be a king or a dictator or a potentate or whatever. However, they recognized that it is a powerful position. It will be a powerful position and the President is the represent representative of the United States to the rest of the world. When we are going to, you know, negotiate trade or negotiate treaties or have visitors from this country who represent us go out, it’s going to be the President and his, his executive branch that’s going to do that. The President is the face of the country to the rest of the world.
And so the President’s a powerful position. Plus also the President being not only being that figurehead, but also does have a, a great responsibility in executing the laws of the United States and having the ability through their personnel to do so. And so the fear was that A those who become President may try to strengthen that position for me for reasons other than what’s best for America and B, that the persons who get into that position may use the, the authorities to that position in a manner that is not good for America. And so they wanted to make sure that this person was truly for good, loyal to America.
We want citizens to serve in Congress. We want a natural born citizen to serve as President. And there’s a difference. They are two different animals. The natural born citizen Title from the Constitution is a greater level of citizenship than citizen. You, a citizen, be born here. You could of. Of. Of parents with allegiance. You can have voiced your allegiance through a legal process called naturalization. Whatever. Citizen is good. It’s an important thing. But if you’re going to hold the reins. But the President, United States, they wanted something more. They want to do what they could to avoid problems.
The historical. They. They decided this partly because of their historical experience, because during the American Revolution, not all colonists were allies. The Tories, who were loyalists to the Crown, literally took up arms against the Patriots, fought side by side with the British troops. I mean, imagine if today. Let’s just hypothetically, for the fun of it, just for sake of argument, and you’ve got a. And you’ve got a situation where. Oh, what was that movie? There’s been two of them, where the Cubans go parachute in. Oh, man, why am I blanking on the name of that movie now? But anyway, let’s say we got this.
What are you talking about? A movie about? What? Patrick Swayze and the Cubans. Oh. Oh, no. Yeah. You’re talking about Red Dawn. Red Dawn. Thank you. Imagine for a second that some type of Red dawn happens, and you would think all your friends and neighbors would be like, hey, man, we’re getting invaded. Let’s fight these guys. And a third of your friends and neighbors grab their guns and turn against America and stand side by side with the invaders. Could you imagine that? That’s what was happening during the American Revolution. During the American Revolution, about a third of the population supported staying with Britain, staying loyal to Britain.
And. And many of those persons took up arms against the colonists, against the Patriots fighting for independence. And so. And Tackleberry also put Red dawn in there. Thank you. And there’s been two of them, and they’re both good movies, but I still say the first one was better. But anyway, the second one doesn’t even bear mentioning. In fact, the fact that you even acknowledged it. I am offended. No, no, the. The second one has one great scene. One only the very end, when they’re running with the flag. But anyway, actually, I will say that I did like the scene where they were showing the planes and the.
And the guys paratrooping, parachuting out. I thought that was actually kind of cool, but that’s about it. Outside of that, that whole movie sucked. But anyway, so the Founding Fathers, the framers of the Constitution, when they’re going through this debate during the summer of 1787, they’ve got that American Revolution fresh in their memory. And while most of the Tories after the war fled either back to Britain or to Canada. So you ever wonder why the Canada, Canada’s so full of lefties. There you go. They all fled right after the American Revolution. But anyway, so they understood that the Tories and the British and also other British, other European countries wanted to undermine our system.
What better way to undermine it than to get one of their people into the executive branch and specifically into the role of President United States. And so they had to be on guard. Now you never are going to be able to 100% stop corruption, infiltration, whatever, so you want, but you do want to put mechanisms in place that you believe are going to do the best job at guarding against that type of intrusion. So what they decided upon was something called natural born citizenship. Natural born citizenship goes all the way back to Greece. In the, in ancient Greece you were not considered a citizen unless you had, you were the child of citizens.
In Britain you had something called a natural born subject. And that had to do with, with the estates inheritance. If you weren’t a natural born subject. In this case it went through the father. The mother wasn’t as much involved. They, it did require both parents to be British subjects. But if your mother wasn’t, there was a way you could use the courts to argue if your father was. And it’s a, a different game. But they had something called natural born subject. So the idea of natural born citizen being a very important thing and, and you being the child of at least one citizen parent was important.
However it had morphed, it had developed over time in Europe at that time, natural born citizen into both parents needing to be citizens at the time of your birth in order for you to truly be a natural born citizen or as Patel also called it, a native born citizen. It was just a term they used. And so, and so in Vittel’s Law of Nations, which is a book that was written by a gentleman with the last name of Patel who was a Swiss. And, and he wrote, it was written in French. And what it did is it, it was a resource of the legal terminology of the time, the meanings, the definitions, that kind of stuff.
And, and so it was accepted in the quote unquote modern world of the time, which was basically Europe and their colonies. And in that volume, 1758 or 60, I can’t remember which, when the first the French version came out and then the English translation came out like two years later, it just, it explains that a natural born or native born citizen is one of citizen parents, plural meaning both parents are citizens at the time of the birth of the child. The founding fathers understanding this, recognizing that’s what it was said, hey, that’s the mechanism we need for president because we’re worried about for example Tories trying to infiltrate our system.
And Tories. One of, one of the characteristics that that was common with Tories was at least one of their parents were still English subjects. And so almost all your Tories had at least one British born British subject parent. And so by making a child have to be a natural born citizen in order to be president, that would at least help guard against the threat of those with foreign ideas, foreign political ideas to infiltrate the executive branch. And so they put the president needs to be a natural born citizen. However, and we’re going to end on this because we’re out of time.
No person except natural born citizen or a citizen of the United States. So for those of you who argue that there was that you were a citizen of the state only back then, though they did have a citizen of the country. It says so right here. But it says or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoptionist constitution. Well, if indeed the natural born citizen is someone who’s born of citizen parents and America has been a country, a official union of states country since 1776 when the Declaration of Independence was adopted. Then the oldest natural born citizen at the time of the writing of the constitution was 11 years old.
So therefore you don’t have any natural born citizens old enough to become president yet. Therefore they had to add or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoptionist constitution. Now I think it wasn’t until like Pierce or Van Buren or somewhere around there where someone who was a natural born citizen finally was able to become president because you know, they were born during the colonial times. But, and, but the reason why I bring this up, and this is key and I’m going to leave you with this, it’s kind of going to be a teaser for next week.
What it’s saying here is natural born citizen and citizen are two different things. So being a just being a citizen born on American soil is not enough. It natural born citizen and citizen are two different things. If they meant natural born citizen or naturalized citizen, they would have put such. Now they put natural born citizen or a citizen. So the two have a difference. The reason why I bring that up is because in our current day and age we have something called birthright citizenship. And we are told by this, we are told by this concept based on misinterpretation, 14th amendment that if you’re born on American soul, you’re automatically a citizen and a natural born citizen.
They’re one and the same. Right. If they’re one of the same, then why in Article 2 does the Founding Fathers tell you they are two different things? Natural born citizen citizen are something different. Natural born citizen is something greater than being a born citizen or a native citizen. And, and plus also and this is, we’ll get deeper in this way on the 14th amendment. Being born American soil does not necessarily automatically make you a citizen. There’s more factors involved and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. We’ll get to that when we get the 14th amendment. But I want us to understand natural born citizen does not meet just mean born on America’s soul.
It is something greater. And from the founding father’s point of view, according to Mattel’s Law of Nations, according to the Immigration act of 1790 and according to five cases of Supreme Court dicta between the beginning of the Supreme Court to 1875 when the most recent case Minor vs. Happersett identified natural born citizen as being a child of citizen parents, plural. Five cases of dicta from the Supreme Court at Chief justice in all five times in their opinion that being a natural born citizen is being the child of two citizen parents. Doesn’t matter if they were citizen born citizen naturalized just long citizen.
Now I’ll give you an example to help help you understand this. My, my wife is a, she’s an immigrant. Her parents came here when she was like six months old. When I married her, she had a green card. She did not naturalize until 2006. So in 2006 she raised her hand, she renounced her Mexican citizenship and became an American citizen only. And our children were born in 1985 and 1990 prior to her holding her hand up becoming a citizen. So while our children are citizens, neither one of them are natural born citizens because in both cases their mother was not a citizen at the time of their birth.
However, once my wife gave her oath in 2007, if we had had kids after that wasn’t going to happen. But if we had had kids after that, then that child would be eligible for president because both parents would be citizens at time of birth. And the reason why I’m telling you this, I want you to understand I’m not saying native citizens born citizens just as long as both parents are citizens. And that means the child was raised with citizen teaching citizen patriotism. All right? And so that the persons haven’t renounced any other allegiances. It’s only American allegiance as parents.
And the idea is if the child’s a natural born citizen and it’s raised in that way, the chances of them being a problem is going to be less because they’re raised as American or as a Warhamster likes to call them. Or no, not warhammer. I’m sorry, Dennis Jackson on my show once on Saturdays on kmet, a second generation Americans. And, and, and I think that’s a good way of putting it. Or total generation Americans. We could say that too. And so that is the key. Now I’ll get more into the nuances next week. Get more into what the cases were and Fattell’s lobby.
I’ll get into the details more so next week. And what I’ll also talk about is a case I was a part of, I say was a part of because it’s no longer ripe against Kamala Harris for not being eligible. According to the 12th Amendment, the vice president has to meet the same eligibility requirements as the president. Exactly. So the vice president has to be a natural born citizen too. A thousand percent. And she wasn’t, isn’t, not, nor was Obama, nor was a nice long list of Republicans. And so there you go. Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz not eligible.
Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, not eligible. Nikki Haley, not eligible. Really? Trump? Yeah, she, no, she’s not eligible. Her parents weren’t. Vivek Ramaswamy is not eligible. And it says what about Trump? His mother was born in Scotland. Yeah. But she had become a naturalized citizen before he was born. So Trump is, you know what, it’s, it’s interesting because I, I, I don’t want to, since we’re pretty much done with the show, I want to touch on this real quick because, you know, everybody, everybody’s getting on Trump about talking about this thing with Greenland and the thing with Canada and Mexico and all that stuff.
And I love how he’s able to just light everybody’s butts on fire. But anyway, go ahead. The thing is, I, I was listening to a very interesting show with Alpha Warrior and Colonel Towner and what, And Town, Colonel Towner, she’s, she’s real big into like the Operation Gladio and looking back at a lot of the, you know, the historical things, things and whatnot. And, and what she’s saying is that the reason that he’s talking about merging Canada and, and all these countries in with the United States, economically, that’s beside point. Go ahead. No, what she’s saying is, is that those Deals were already done behind the scenes by bush in the mid 2000s.
And they’re calling it something different. And they don’t. Even though they don’t. Even though it doesn’t have the outward appearance as such, behind the scenes, there is a lot more cooperation, as though they are. As though we’re basically one entity. Almost like a European Union type. Yeah, yeah. You’re talking about the North American Trade Agreement. Nafta. No, it’s actually something. It was something different than that. Yeah, it wasn’t that, but because she, she. What she said was that was what led to nafta. And, and, you know, when Trump came in and said some of the things that he, He.
He actually completely renegotiated that deal. I think it’s. I forgot what it’s called, but it’s like USMCA or something like that. Yeah. You know what I’ve heard. I know when you drop. I believe we’ll continue. But anyway, it was just. It’s. It’s interesting because he’s talking about these things to get people, to get it into the public consciousness, to have the discussion about it so that he can reveal, oh, well, this has already happened. So there’s some interesting things going on. And not everything is as it seems. So, you know, just keep that in mind. That just because what you’re seeing on television and what you’re seeing on the news and what you’re seeing on TikTok or Twitter X or Facebook or whatever, not everything that you see or.
Or not everything that you hear out of Trump’s mouth is. Is as. As it appears. But I love the fact that he is opening up the discussions and having dialogue about it, because now people are actually like, well, now they’re talking about it, and when they’re talking about it, he brings things out in the open. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly. He’s open. He’s shining sunlight on it. So, anyway, just that said, you know what? I. It’s. And one other tidbit before we say goodbye, and this is a totally different subject, but it ties into what we’re talking about earlier with the Confederate Confederacy and slave ownership and all that.
And I found this out a couple days ago, and I thought it was hilarious. I did a little research. It turns out to be true. Trump holds a very significant deal about him that’s different from every president in the history of the country. Something that he. That something that’s true about him that is not true about any other president. He is the first president in the history of this country to have Absolutely no ancestors at all that owned slaves. Really? Yeah. And I’m like, wait a second. He’s the racist bastard, but he’s the only one that doesn’t have any ancestors that ever own slaves.
That’s interesting. Even Obama has ancestors that own slave slaves. Where did you see, where did you see that? A couple days ago. And I, I’ll have to find my notes on it because I looked it up and all this other stuff the best I could and is, is it, is it in an article? No, it was, something was said on TV and I, and I, I, and I was on. I think I want to say it was Fox News, but because that I watch a lot of Fox and not because I love the ownership, but because I love, you know, Jesse and, and, and, and you know, those guys, you know.
But yeah, I have to, I’ll have to, I’ll have to look it up, look up all my notes that I had over here somewhere. If you saw my desk. Yeah, well, let’s. But it’s fascinating. He’s the first president who’s got no ancestors that own slaves. Let’s talk about that a little bit next week. I think that would be, that would be an interesting, that would be an interesting intro. So. All right, guys. Well, hey, thank you all for tuning in today. It’s great. Again. No Tuesday with Mike Ton apologize for that. That was. I got a message from him earlier today.
He has a, I think it’s something to promote one of his books that he has an event for that he, it’s got a, he’s got to attend in person. So he is unavailable this evening. And as you looked at all your stack of stuff you need to do and you said to him, oh, I’m heartbroken. That’s exactly what I said. That is exactly what I said. I said this is actually a blessing in disguise. I still have to do it with that freaking. With that angel dumb fan Douglas V. Gibbs in the Constitution. But hey, I’m just Attacker Berry brings up a real America’s Voice.
I watch it every once in a while too. I’ve got it on a Pluto tv. So real America’s Voice, I, I sometimes watch One America News. I sometimes watch Newsmax. Sometimes. Fox is probably more my go to only because I, I’ve just, I gravitate towards Jesse Waters and Levin probably more than anybody else. So now that you say that, I will tell you that I have a friend who has to remain nameless. But this friend is in the news business and he actually contacted me and said that he has a friend whose daughter worked at CNN and is considering quitting because the, because CNN is making the internal.
Internal. They’re, they’re doing things internally to shift to the right to compete with fox. And well, they watch what happened, what’s happening. Msnbc and. Yep. We don’t want to do that. And they. Yeah. And so they are in the process of doing that and she’s like, I don’t want to be a part of this. And so, and then I, I have another friend who has a friend who works at, who works for CNN in Atlanta. And I reached out and asked for, for some confirmation and he said, yeah, that’s the, that is the, that is the scuttlebutt there that CNN is going to be shifting to the right.
Meanwhile, msnbc, and you’ve heard this in the news, is there’s a number of, for lack of better way of saying it, conservative ownership options. So it could be interesting. Yeah. So. All right, guys, I, I will not be back tonight with. Hey. And, and chat room. You’re welcome. Thank you for thinking. Yeah. And the appreciation. I appreciate it. I won’t be back tonight with, with Tuesday with Mike, but I’m hoping to have my studio up and running sufficiently. I had to order a few cables and things and they have actually been delivered. I got confirmation. So as soon as I close this out, I’m gonna go get those things and start to get all that stuff done.
And so I’ll be able to at least limp along with the, with a background that’s, that’s halfway decent and not a, not a screen screen. So I will always retain the ability to have a green screen. But I’m, I want to have much more of a studio feel. So. And I’m down the road on that, but probably still months away from me getting there. But right now, my office, my desk is in the living room, but we’re getting there. That’s all right. It’s always a pleasure to be here. Always. Well, and yes, Virginia enjoys the show.
Actually. Off to my right. Yeah, that’s awesome. So. All right, well, say goodbye to Virginia or hello, Virginia or whatever. And I will say you when I see you either next week or whenever we do the Confederate Constitution, if that’s earlier or sooner. So have a great night, everybody. We will see you next time. Ciao. Ciao.
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