Summary
âž¡ The quota system in Bangladesh, which initially aimed to provide jobs to freedom fighters and their descendants, ended up favoring certain groups and leading to widespread corruption. This system, which officially allocated 56% of public jobs to these groups, left less than 44% for others due to corruption. The situation was further complicated by a ‘question leak’ issue, where exam questions were sold, disadvantaging honest students. This, along with the government’s misuse of the quota system to favor its allies, led to student protests, which were met with violence, further escalating the situation.
âž¡ The protest in Bangladesh against Sheikh Hasina’s government was sparked by her unfair job reservation system. Despite peaceful protests, Hasina responded with violence, leading to the death and injury of thousands of students. The situation escalated when the government imposed a blackout and began arresting students without charges. However, the students’ courage, inspired by their country’s history, led to their eventual victory and the ousting of Hasina’s regime.
âž¡ The military removed a powerful woman from her position and she is now safe in India. The country is currently run by an interim government led by Nobel Prize winner, Dr. Mohammed Yunus. However, there have been attempts at a coup, which have failed. There are concerns about potential attacks on minorities and possible interference from the Indian army.
âž¡ The text discusses political tensions and propaganda in Bangladesh, suggesting that India may be using the alleged violence against the Hindu population as a pretext to intervene, similar to Russia’s actions in Ukraine. It also highlights the role of students in resisting oppression and maintaining order during periods of political instability. The text encourages unity and resistance against divisive tactics, and recommends certain news outlets for reliable information about the situation in Bangladesh.
âž¡ Despite threats from a dictator and her hired troublemakers, a united community is standing strong, protecting their homes and each other. This unity and vigilance have turned into a form of celebration, showing the power of togetherness in the face of adversity. The story serves as a powerful example for other communities around the world dealing with similar chaos.
Transcript
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They’re actually aiming to kill, shooting them in their head. They were. It was this amazing. They’re going to tell you this story and how the students, with all that killing, they just, they dropped their fear and they just kept pushing. It was like this. The people rose up and, and so they’re going to talk about what brought this. And eventually, because the students and then the other people in the country started joining in. Because of that, the military pretty much forced the prime minister to step down. But she’s a psychopath, and we talk about that. I mean, you do.
She just didn’t want to be removed from power. So she was just killing all these people. And they use that to gain more courage. And you’re going to talk. One of the students talked about how a bullet was like an itch from their body and the person next to them got shot. It just. We haven’t, most people haven’t lived through this, but when you listen to the corruption in their government, that is what we’re trying to keep from happening here in the United States, not that far off with all the corruption and what we’re seeing now.
And we could be in situations like this. And maybe there’s something to learn from the courage that these students had. But the propaganda, we’ll talk about the propaganda and the geopolitics now that are coming in to take over control of this country and who is behind it and what it is obvious based on the propaganda that they’re trying to motivate India and indian people to support maybe India going in. And they talk about how their acting like all these Hindis were killed when really there was only two that died for other reasons. Meanwhile, they’re ignoring the tens of thousands of students that were killed or injured.
And so it shows you how they’re laying the propaganda thick to be able to do military action of some sort. And so all these geopolitical players are coming in. It’s a really good lesson on courage and how a country gets taken down and then what happens afterwards. I hope you learned something from this. And these students, their courage is absolutely remarkable. Now they’re afraid to come out publicly because they know that there’s going to be thousands of people watching this. They want to remain anonymous. Shows in the United States are viewed kind of differently around the world.
It’s really, it puts them onto a platform that’s at a higher level and they need to protect their safety. So that’s why they’re going to be anonymous. And Cynthia McKinney obviously is herself. So I hope you watch this sedan. It’s actually pretty long, but it’s very informative. Before I get into this, though, I want to talk to you about the inhale oxygenated water from my friend and scientist Ian Mitchell. He created this oxygenated water that is seven times the oxygen that you would normally get and better. It’s. He formulated it so it penetrates more than other oxygen waters or other treatments that you can get.
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Okay. The entire world has tuned their eyes toward Bangladesh and what we have just lived through, what I have just lived through for the last probably one month. I have nothing, been out of my apartment for at least a month. And the reason is because we were in the middle of a student uprising. And I cannot say that that student uprising was not probably overdue because the conditions in Bangladesh were becoming worse and worse and worse. And I’m not talking about the economic conditions. I’m talking about the political conditions. And, of course, if the political conditions are bad and you’ve got rampant corruption, then, of course, the economic conditions pervade the society eventually.
And that’s exactly what was happening. But that is not what motivated the students. And this is the amazing thing. The students were motivated by different issues. One issue in particular. And we in the west, we would call it the brain drain. But I have attended at least one other meeting similar to what happened in Bangladesh, where people in Mexico. I attended a meeting in Mexico where the citizens said, we no longer want to leave our communities, leave our country, leave our families, and go and work in another country and then build up that country. And basically what had happened was you had a corrupt kind of system that had emerged from this, what’s called a quota system.
And, of course, Bangladesh was born in 1971, and in order to reward the families, the freedom fighters themselves, those who helped to liberate the country, at that time, it was east Pakistan. And so they wanted to become their own country and to understand a lot of the propaganda that you’re seeing and hearing now, you have to also understand that India and Israel played a role in the creation of Bangladesh. So now we have this background, and Bangladesh goes along, and we all remember Henry Kissinger calling Bangladesh a basket case. And at the time when I was born, Bangladeshis were dying in a famine.
They were literally dying for lack of food. Today, there is no lack of food in Bangladesh. Bangladesh has become a miracle state, with annual economic growth at around 8%. And I say that ever since I’ve been here. So that’s, like, since 2014, they have been growing and growing and growing and growing and growing. But at the same time, you had this system that was engulfing all of the freedom fighters, their children, their grandchildren, and I guess it was going to remain in perpetuity to even their great grandchildren. So that a quota system that started at 7% ended up just before the eruption took place at 56%.
And then because of eruption. What is a quota system? What do you mean? A quota system that they had. Well, the freedom fighters got a certain percentage of the. Of the jobs, the public sector jobs. This is all about availability of jobs and who gets those jobs. So the quota system was a way to apportion some of those public jobs to freedom fighters. And then when the freedom fighters began to die out, their children, and then when their children began to die out, their grandchildren, and then, you know, it was their great grandchildren that they all got these jobs, and it was up as high as.
How much? Well, it was higher than 56%. Officially, it was 56%, but because corruption. Yeah, it ended up being higher than 56%. So now. So were people angry that 56% just went to these people automatically? Well, let me just further explain that. Of the 56%, some were the freedom fighters, 30%. Then you had some of those public sector jobs that went to women. There was a set aside for women, what we would call a set aside. There was a set aside for indigenous people, because you have indigenous communities here, Bangladesh is a state of many. And then you had to set aside for the disabled people, and then you had to set aside for people who were not located in Dhaka, the capital city.
So you had sort of like a rural inclusion. So how much was left over then? 44%. Or was there? Well, it was less than that because of corruption. So there was something that was called the question leak, and one of the students that has joined us has been a direct victim of this question leak problem. Where then? Families that are willing to pay for the questions to the exams these entrance exams and exit exams, they actually get the questions. And then they can then study directly and they can cheat. And there are some students that did that refused to cheat.
And one of them is with us today. So you’ve got all of this now, hold on a second. What were these exams for? To get those jobs or to get into university? For the jobs. For exit exams. For access to university. Okay, so high school, exit exams. All of the exams that basically control the future of the students. So. But the students people had to. Because with this quota system, in order to a lot. Was there a lot of private sector jobs? Because I would think you’d either have to go private sector or leave the country.
Well, let me explain the rest of it. So the students then participate in the question leak. Or they don’t participate in the question leak. And then that system of question leaks then robs the meritorious students of even more of their opportunities. So in the end, it says on paper that it was 56% of the public sector jobs that were affected. But it’s way more than that because of corruption. Okay, so now add on this another layer. And that layer is that you’ve got a government that can take advantage of the quota system. And embed its cronies into the bureaucratic fabric of the state.
And that basically is what has happened for the last 15 years. Under the leadership of the name that we all know, Sheikh Asino. Then when the student. And because of the colonial legacy, it was always prestigious to leave Bangladesh and then go and work someplace else. And then if you work someplace else, what are you doing? You’re sending your hard currency back to Bangladesh in the form of remittances to take care of your family. But it also adds to the state coffers. So this was a mutually beneficial system that had become to emerge. That had emerged that worked to the detriment of the state.
Because now you’re not getting the best and the brightest that run the state. You’re getting political cronies that run the state. And then not only that, you’re getting sort of the prelude to cacistocracy, this prelude. And because people who commit crimes are not punished. And so it’s a prelude to psychopathocracy. These are key concepts that I teach my political science students. And they were living these key concepts in real time. Well, that happened in Minneapolis. I’m going to throw this in Minneapolis when, you know, after the George Floyd riots. And then they did. They just destroyed the morale of the police department.
And 30% of the police quit. And then they were afraid to police go in these neighborhoods. And then the poor neighborhoods were like, we want you here. The people wanted them here. Murder was. And crime was skyrocketing. It’s that kind of situation. Psychopathic stupidity, but keep going. Well, you’re absolutely right to compare the situation that existed in Bangladesh. Technically a republic on paper, by way of its constitution, but it was not that way in practice. And we in the United States have a similar situation where we’ve got the Bill of rights on paper, but those rights are steadily eroding in our faces.
I think with that as a foundation, I think it’s probably okay to turn it over to the students, to allow them to have an opportunity to say just exactly what their experiences were. Yeah, let’s talk about that. Because I know they’re all here anonymously, and I think safety has been a concern because the students didn’t. I have to ask you, was there a funding mechanism behind this? I always question whether student uprisings are 100% organic. It seems like there are always something else that’s pushing it and causing it to occur. Was there something else behind this that made the, you know, that triggered the uprising? Was there a funding source? Was there.
Was there other organizations, or how did that. How did it spark? Anybody want to take that question? One of the students, I would say it was really organic initially. When it started, it was just a peaceful movement. Peaceful movement from the students. They just wanted that to reform the quota, nothing else. Only 44% are getting their jobs. Even the real number is even less so. They just started protesting with some banners in their campus, only not in the roads or anything like that. They were just protesting inside their campus with slogans, and it was just a peaceful movement.
So what. What creates it to be this bigger was, Sheikh Hatida government said in an interview, how about you start from the beginning, like, from 2018? Like, what happened from 2018 then? No, this is. This is good, though. The movement started peaceful, and then something caused it to get more dynamic, which maybe the history needs to show that. But I want to say one thing. The ultimate end to this is the government was actually toppled, right? There’s a new government being put. I mean, you guys had a revolution, and a whole government was replaced. Emfs, or electromagnetic fields from Wi Fi and your devices can impact your health, potentially causing headaches, fatigue, and anxiety if you do not take measures to protect yourself.
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That this quota quota system was reformed in 2018 by Sheikh Hasina only. But again this year they said from that no, there will be quota. So students started protesting. But she on national television called the students Raja Karp or anti nationalist. That word is very sensitive in Bangladesh because they are the people who betrayed us in 1971 during our war. So calling someone Rajakar or that anti nationalist is a really big thing for Bangladesh. So students got angrier that how could you are a prime minister and you should be really careful what you are saying. So how could you tell that we are anti nationalists? We are just wanting what’s our rights.
So they start the protests getting started even bigger on after she said all these things. So then on 17 it was the protest began from 5 July. But during 17th July, by 17th July it became larger and larger. So on the 17 July, police started attacking the students. So even until that point it was really peaceful. Nothing outraged. But from 17 they started just firing at students who were completely unarmed. So did that trigger more anger and more students? Yes, that’s how students got to why are you firing us? We did nothing wrong. We are inside our cabin, we are protesting.
Why would you fire us? You could have just acknowledged like, okay, we will talk about it, something like that. But she didn’t first recall us anti nationalist and then second she start shooting us. At the 17 July, 1 of the students from Rankpur University was killed. We have the video. He was completely unarmed. He was just standing there, nothing in his hand, not even a stick. And the police shot him to death. So that 16 July where when that student died, his name was Ab Saeed. He died on 16 July. Basically. Were people scared? Were you scared or were you just angry? Okay, so if I just answer you that, I mean, how things actually, I mean how things are really furious.
As t said, this whole protest was really peaceful. We didn’t want anything else but the right for the government jobs or the jobs that we actually deserved and which were actually reserved for a certain percentage of people were really close to Sheikh Hasina and her government. So basically there is this thing about her regime and her there is this thing about her that whoever went south of her, whoever disagreed with her, she used to get really angry at that, and she used to take actions. She used to abduct them, kill them or sabotage them. In many ways, that’s one of her things that she has been doing for past 15 years.
And she tried to do that in 2018 as well. So this protest basically started. She said that it started in 2018. We started protesting about it. And at a certain point, she also literally unleashed her goons, her goons, as if there is a student wing of her political party, which they arm as well, with machines and guns. So her goons and the police were unleashed on us, on the students, as well, on 2018. And when she saw that the protest was being pretty outrageous and it might backfire her, she literally say, okay, there will be no quota, there will be no reservation or set aside for any, any kind of community.
There will be no such system. But after 2018, everything was going good. In 2020 or 2021, a family of freedom fighter, well, an unknown family of freedom fighter. They filed a case. They filed an appeal in the high court that, okay, no, we want to reincarnate the quota system. And on 2020, 4 June of 2024, the high court gave decision the judgment that, okay, the court system will be reincarnated. And the government didn’t do anything about that. The government knew, Sheikh Khal Sina knew that most of the people in Bangladesh were against it, but she didn’t do anything.
Rather, she called us betrayers, the mass protests, the mass students, betrayers. And that literally hit us on our ego that nobody, I mean, not even the government, can call us a betrayer. Like, we are working for our country, for ourselves, and for our rights. She has no right to call us that. And that outraged that whole protest in a different level. And she started shooting at us. She started shooting at us with tear shells, with rubber bullets, and also assault rifles and tear and I, real bullets as well. By which, till now, I mean, till 5 August, almost more than 1000 students died and more than 20,000 is injured, and they’re still in the hospital.
Wow. And within that time, she has already arrested more than 10,000 students and commoners, which includes 17 to 16 year old students as well. And they were arrested without any written charges, without any documented charge or any complaint at all. Okay, so then how did she started killing? Like, from 18, it was like no mercy. There were just killings, and they completely black out. The Bangladesh Internet was off, mobile network was off, everything. We couldn’t contact one another, but we were aware that she and her team is just killing people. Around 2000 students were killed, but she didn’t even let us record the, like, dead bodies in the hospitals.
She also imposed a kill on site curfew on us at the time of blackout. So she did three things to discard the students, the whole protest. She imposed a kill on site curfew. She blacked out the whole country out of the. From the world by shutting off the Internet. And. And she started raiding students houses by night to arrest them and checking their phones. And checking their phones. Okay, with that situation in place, how did the students end up toppling her? How did you guys win in the long run? What happened so, so much that at the end of the day, we were like, we don’t fear you anymore.
If you want to kill, kill us. Wow. She has been doing this for so long that we don’t care if we want to kill, like the last day, the day she is. And we were like, if you’re gonna shoot, shoot still, we’re gonna protest. We just don’t care. Our courage that it was purely our courage that actually enabled us to oust her. And we got that courage from the history, you see. I mean, we, the students in Bangladesh, we briefly study our history, history when we stay in school. So we studied about the freedom fighters back in 1970, 119, 52, 66, 69.
And we know about their credit. And that inspired us that if they can oust a whole nationality, a whole dictatorship, we being a boundary issue right now in 2024, we can do that as well. Because this is about our right, this is about our living. We couldn’t live. We couldn’t step out of our houses out of fear of our lives. I mean, whenever we used to go out, my mother used to pray that my son should come home safely and alive. So that was the fear that we all had at that time. And while she was in the country and while she was in the power, the other aspect is that she was not acknowledging what she is doing.
We are clearly seeing that people are getting shot, they are killing us all this thing. She is just, no, nothing is happening. Everything is fine. Helicopters are just falling to throw water in fire and things like that. She’s holding fire damage metro rail. But she is not acknowledging 2000 people dead. So that she was at that extent, she was at that extent that she started firing at the students with choppers and unmarked choppers as well. Choppers used by the army personnel, choppers used by the Rapid Action Battalion, which is a paracommandore group, which is pretty fears.
And also it is under sanctioned by us. She used every kind of lethal way to kill people, innocent people and even children of six to seven year old children who were at their homes maybe playing on the rooftop. There is, there is a. There’s a kid called Rhea GOP. She was playing on the rooftop and she was killed by the gunshot which was shot by. From a chopper. So, yeah, I mean, she, she was merciless, she was ruthless and she was a psychopath who was running the country. I was just going to say that she’s a psychopath.
Okay, so then how did you guys. First of all, what was your role in this? Were you just students or were you organizers of this? Of this? I mean, how. We didn’t really have that organizer or anything. We just all. After she first, it was a really small movement, but after she started killing and giving, more and more students started joining. Why are you killing them? So that’s how we all started joining. We didn’t have like an organizer or a leader or. But after few days, we, we made some coordinators who were kidnapped by Hasina and she.
Yeah, sure, yeah. Actually there are coordinators in every university. They were from the beginning, actually. So the students are informed about the movement and they are called to the movement. So the coordinators did everything. And at the end of the movement, I think the people of all around the country joined us because of the massive killing of the Hsina regime government. It went beyond the students, it went to the rest of the citizens as they started murdering all those did every possible things to disturb the public sentiment of the country. Okay, so now who’s in place now and how did they get put in place and who are they going? Okay, so after ousting the government, this dictator, this basis regime, there was so, okay, so how this regime was ousted.
Let me, let me tell you that whole story a bit. So on 5 August, when we had, we had this thing that we will march towards the Shohid Minar there. It’s a monument in Bangladesh. And from there we will be marching towards the prime Minister house, the PM House. That was the whole ceremony that was organized the day before that day. So on 4 August, so we were all gathered up and we were marching towards the PM house. And at that time, the army chief, the naval chief and the air chief, three of them went to the prime minister’s house and told her that, ma’am, you should resign now.
Cause the protesters and citizens of the whole country coming towards the house to oust you and it might get messy. We might not get the chance to save you. So at that time, she was so arrogant and so angry that, no, I won’t get down from power even if it takes to kill as many protesters as you want, shoot at them, do whatever you want. But I don’t want to. I don’t want to get out of power. So at that time, the army chief and the other two chiefs, they had to convince her and convince her sibling as well, to convince her that she should get a get out of power and she should not hold the power anymore.
So it was the military. Yeah, the military did it on behalf of us. And they gave her a safe exit. They gave her a safe exit. She went, she’s in Delhi now. She’s in India. Delhi in a. She is safe there in a safe exit. And after that, the whole country, the nation and the coordinators were later on given the names. The coordinators actually decided and the whole people, the intellectual people decided there should be an interim government in this time. So the head of the interim government right now is Doctor Mohammed Yunus. He’s a Nobel Prize winner, winner in peace.
And there are some intellectual people in the whole cabinet and right now they’re running the country. And if I, if I care to mention, there have been within this time after 5 August until now, there have been two tries of coups. The Hasina, she tried to coup two times till now, but she successfully failed. She tried to make a coup, a military coup, again a counter coup within this time. She tried to execute a judiciary coup within this time, but she failed to both of those times. Now the intel right now what we have is she’s trying to make another coup on the 15 August or maybe onwards by making the attack on minorities a weapon.
So she’s literally propagating from India that minorities in Bangladesh are being attacked by radicalists, radicals, and they’re not safe there. And India has already. Indian foreign minister has already stated in their parliament that their army is ready. And we all know that Hasina is capable of intruding, of letting indian army to get into Bangladesh. That has happened before as well. And she had the indian army ready around Bangladesh in 2009 while the video. Okay, so does she have a faction in her country that supports her? Sorry, I didn’t get you. Is there a faction in her country, in Bangladesh that support her? Oh, yes.
Okay. That’s the interesting thing. So basically, within this 15 years, she has made the whole system so corrupted and she has put pawns all over in every sector, like in military, from higher ups she has put her own men who are loyal to her and her in the judiciary sector, she has put her own men, her own judges who are basically loyal to her party and her. And she has her own men every single play in every single place. So that even if someone tries to oust her, it becomes difficult. Well, they don’t want her to leave because they lose their power.
And so that’s why I care about her. But there power is wrapped up into having her there. Now, what is the deal geopolitically with India? Cynthia, you said India and Israel are the ones who created Bangladesh. So where are they from? A big picture geopolitical aspect? Where are they with this? Are they going to let this just go, or are they going to step in and, and try to. They might just put in their own government if this is just. What do you think is going to happen? First of all, I’d like to say you’re absolutely right that they are not just going to let things go.
However, there are two different sort of strains of thinking here. So one is that you’ve got the propaganda about the killings of the Hindus. Al Jazeera did a study and they found that two Hindus had been killed throughout this entire process of regime change. I don’t know if it’s regime change or if it’s face change. That remains to be seen. So that’s what I’m looking at. But that as a result of the propaganda, the world thinks that Hindus are under attack. These are generation Zers and generation Z. They were born into a secular Bangladesh. Bangladesh has been secular for all of their lives.
And so the idea they live with the hindu population, they go to school with the hindu population, they celebrate the hindu population’s holidays, because in Bangladesh, we celebrate christian holidays. We. But I’m here, so christian holidays, muslim holidays, buddhist holidays, and hindu holidays are all celebrated officially here. So this is the environment that these students grew up in. And I think that you would have a real minority of the population that would be prejudiced in any way and discriminate. Can I take the hindu population? So there has been two Hindis that have been killed, but there’s been thousands of students.
So is the propaganda wide talking about the two people and acting like it’s been thousands, and they’re not talking about the students that were killed. That’s pretty. Not only talking about the students, they’re not talking about the other members of the muslim community that have been killed as well. I mean, you know, civilians were killed. I mean, just average ordinary citizens walking down the street were caught up in the crossfire, and they were killed as well. So there’s that aspect. There’s another aspect. And that aspect is, who exactly is in Bangladesh now? Now, we know that the Indians were always here.
We know that the Israelis were here because they were, the government was buying spy equipment from the Israelis. So we know they were here. And, you know, once they’re here, do they leave? Never. And we know that the United States is here. And the United States was here because a generation ago, before these children, before these young people were even born, the United States was asking for a military base to be placed on one of the Bay of Bengal islands that is controlled by Bangladesh. And Bangladesh took Myanmar to the international court, and the international court ruled that this island belonged to Bangladesh.
So now Bangladesh has jurisdiction over this island, and the United States wants it. In my opinion, we’ve experienced weaponized migration with the Rohingya as a result of setting up the opportunity for the United States to get that military base, either from a Kurdistan point of view or a Kosovo point of view. And when Barack Obama declared, Hillary Clinton says it was her idea. But whoever it was Barack Obama that declared the pivot to Asia, the bottom line is, in my opinion, if you look at a map of Asia, well, the United States is firmly ensconced in West Asia.
The United States is firmly ensconced in East Asia. But where is the United States lacking in any kind of military presence? South Asia. And they want that. They want that. That’s right. Because if you go directly south from the Bay of Bengal and then directly east, what do you have there? The Straits of Malacca. And that, of course, you know, is the main thoroughfare for all of the trade, the east west trade. So the United States, and then, of course, if the United States is able to get this military base either in Bangladesh, and there’s a map that has surfaced, and I have video of the students being shot at and killed.
I have video of the civilians, innocent civilians being murdered. I have the photograph of this map as well. And I can share all of this with you for post production. I got this map from my friends in Myanmar. The map was created, however, in the United States, and it shows the Balkanization, the further Balkanization of Bangladesh, the Balkanization of India, and the balkanization of Myanmar. And so when I went to Myanmar after the weaponization of the Rohingya, I went to Myanmar, and I said to them that your mistake was the use of force. Because I had read the WikiLeaks documents when I was doing my dissertation on Hugo Chavez.
And the documents were lamenting the fact that while the United States wanted to overthrow Chavez, Chavez never directed the military to fire on the people. And so, the agents, you could say, of the US, were lamenting the fact that there wasn’t violence, so that they could then intervene covertly and, you know, create a different scenario. Well, unfortunately, Sheikh Hasina’s first move was to create the chaos and the violence that then would permit something else to happen. Now, whether that something else did happen or not, I can’t tell you at the moment. But I can tell you that again.
Within the WikiLeaks documents, Doctor Muhammad Yunus is mentioned. Now, the students look at him as a Nobel peace laureate. But some of us, who are very well aware of the US deep state and its machinations, look at something else. And that something else is definitely there. So now, how much of that something is else comes to bear, is something that I will be investigating while I’m here. Well, that’s what we need. I mean, that’s what’s behind. You don’t know. You’re gonna have to figure it out. And these other countries are all gonna be moving in. And India’s military, it’ll be interesting.
And the propaganda that’s coming out of there will also give you an indication of what they’re trying to do. You know, the B’s, the two Hindis had turned into. Oh, it’s all about attacking, while thousands of students aren’t even mentioned. That’s right. If I mention a bit, one of those Hindus where he was killed, just because of political rivalry that had nothing to do with her, with his religion or anything, it was just political rivalry that killed him. So basically, almost no one or no Hindu was attacked by this whole minority thing, or this hindu racism, discrimination that they’re talking about.
I can see it, like on j six, and in the United States, they talked about how all these people, like five or six people are died, people had heart attacks, they had all these things that had nothing to do with it, but they made it look like it was because of the rioters and they. Exactly. And so I understand it’s the propaganda is, it’s infuriating to see minorities have been attacked. But it’s what we assume it’s the Hasina’s plan to somewhere create a riot in Bangladesh. That’s what we think it is. So, yes, even there are some records that aomeric people attacked the Hindus, or my other minorities, to create a propaganda, some possible records.
So now why is it important for this, what purpose does the propaganda serve? Well, if India had Bangladesh as a client state, India also, when I first got here in 2014, I have to say that I basically went and I looked at the statistics so that I could understand exactly what the relationship, the economic relationship, was between India and Bangladesh. And I was shocked at what I saw, because basically, Bangladesh had become a colony of India. And if we look at what India has done with its neighbors, we can look at a letter that was recently written by Nepal.
It was signed by Nepalis, Sri Lankans, and Bangladeshi, saying, please stop interfering in our domestic affairs. And India was not just a big brother. India was the big brother, if you can get the distinction that I’m trying to make here. And so now India fears that it has lost that. So if there is this violence against the hindu population, then India can utilize an argument very similar to what. That’s right. Russia has used in Ukraine and say, well, we are making this move. We’re bringing our soldiers in so that we can protect the hindu population in Bangladesh.
And so the world would kind of look the other way, and India would sort of absorb Bangladesh in a similar way that it absorbed Kashmir, for example. Well, they have to protect themselves, to protect our kind. They’re being murdered and slaughtered and attacked, when in reality. Exactly. And so they whip up their local people to get the support to do the actions that come next, even if it’s completely. Even if it’s fabricated. And so what you guys have to do is really get this out there to show what the truth is so that the fabrication doesn’t take hold.
Hold. That’s the important thing, to keep your country having some kind of power. And then you got to figure out other ways to maintain your independence and your power position, because that’s what they’re going to do. They’re going to keep working at it. I can just see that already, the propaganda is really glaringly obvious. So now the big test is August 15, which is just a few days from now. And that big test is the day that Sheikh Hasina father was murdered. And there’s a lot of history that we have to go back into. But August 15 could be potentially a day of peril.
I would just like to. Let me just look at how political science can come to life, because in my political science class, we rely on biology, mechanisms of oppression, tools for liberation. I teach my students by key concepts, so I try and eliminate the eurocentrism from the textbooks. And so I teach them cachistocracy, psychopathocracy, courageous, resistance from Iris Marion Johnson, direct democracy, anarchism, tyranny, dictatorship, constitution and anarchy. Okay, so now guess what? During this interregnum period, when there was literally no interim government and there was no Sheikh Hasina government, guess what the students did. The students self organized.
So this is like anarchy, right? The students self organized. They cleaned up the streets, they protected the hindu temples. They organized themselves, and they did this. So for those who say that, well, we also control the traffic, by the way. They did the traffic. Yes. And they even told one of the political opposition party leaders, hey, you gotta abide by the traffic rules. So the students, you guys didn’t have fear, because you, Cynthia, you were a lot. You were scared to come out for a month. But the students, after all that murder, I probably have been scared to come out, but with all that was going on, you guys didn’t have fear.
It’s courageous resistance. That’s right. And so, and if you’re going to have. So, you know, those of us who are students of social movements, if you’re going to have a successful movement, then you’ve got to have courageous resistance the first time, because all governments respond violently, including the United States government. I mean, you know, United States government has shot at its own students before. Look at Kent State. You know, they won’t. They probably will again with what’s probably coming up. And we have to have that career. We are going to have lessons that we can learn from these young people.
And one of those lessons is unity. The question I have is, can we, the people of the United States, unite so that we can rid ourselves of the tyranny that currently rules over us? And if we can rid ourselves, guess what then, because all roads go through Washington, DC, we’re helping the rest of the world as well. But we have got to be able to overcome the divide and rule tactics that have been used so successfully against us in the United States. We’ve got to overcome that. The students did. That’s just phenomenal. I think students have, aren’t for some reason.
Well, not for some reason. Students haven’t been around enough to be divided almost, you know, they don’t have that. And we need to reclaim, we need to unlearn this division that we’ve learned because we all want freedom and liberty. I just really applaud that you guys are doing this, and I think you stick with it. I think there’s, the fight’s not overdevelop. I think the fight probably is. Could get harder here now. The death and the mayhem, maybe not but the fight for independence and no corruption might take some more effort here. But I just applaud you.
Thank you so much for coming on the program. Where can, where would you direct people that want to learn more about this to get reasonable information that’s not so propaganda. Lazy anyone? Well, there are some actual, I mean, there’s some media, some news agencies which are actually spreading the actual news, the actual things that, that you are looking for. One of them is the Daily Star. It’s a banana newspaper, but it’s really authentic. It has been circulating all the real news, all the real information with actual figures all around the country. So if someone want to know about it, they can know it from there.
And as well, there are some, there are quite a few other new agencies. Like how country bin. They have their online portals as well, daily. So they have their online portals as well. So if anyone wants to know what’s actually going on here, what atrocities has been done and what’s, what’s the situation now? Because there’s no politics right now in boundary. The boundaries right now in a game of geopolitics. Right. I if they want to know what’s going inside the system, they can look out onto those news agency agencies and their portals. And there’s one thing that I’d like to add is I like to, as this is going to go on air, I like to let the world know, let’s not stand for any discrimination.
And let’s, I would suggest, want people to stand and raise their voices against this kind of propaganda. And that’s India and other, some other communities which are trying to propagate and stand for Bangladesh and its freedom. Absolutely, Sarah. I would also just like to direct members of your audience to my Twitter page because I am there all the time and posting on Twitter and letting people know the reality of the situation here. And I’m in the process of writing several articles. I’ve already written a few articles. You can find those anywhere on the Internet. You can find them on my website as well.
And what is your website? So my website is allthingscynthiamckinney.com. sorry. Okay, good. And I’ll have that in the show page notes. And hopefully people will go and follow this and make sure it’s another educational source to show us how to read through this propaganda because it’s coming on thick and strong right now. And so the only way that you can know what’s truly going on is to talk to the people who are actually there because it is incredible how they are skewing everything because this propaganda is now giving a path to the dictator again, to make it anti coup again and then come to the country.
We are still united. We are still vigilant, and we are guarding every single temple that we have around us, every single minority houses we have around us. And we are saying really vigilant that, so that dictator and none of, none of our goons can come in at all. Right now. Not only minorities, they are also there. Like in one night, there are thousands of robbers and vandalizers who are robbing us, robbing the house. They were all hired by the dictator and her men just to make this mess really fearful what is happening. But they created a community, and now we are guarding the areas the whole night.
And it’s kind of a party right now that we are guarding. Come, we will see what we can do. So I think it’s really beautiful, the unity we have. Well, that’s excellent. Well, thank you so much for joining the program. I really appreciate it. It’s a really eye opening story, and I have a feeling that we’re going to see more of this around the world because there’s chaos going on in so many countries. So thank you so much for sharing this and your, thank you, Sarah, for having us. Thank you very much. Thank you, Sarah.
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